Kool Moe Dee Live At Harlem World 1981 (Busy Bee VS Kool Moe Dee Battle) Old School Hip Hop / Hiphop
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- Kool Moe Dee Live At Harlem World 1981 (Busy Bee VS Kool Moe Dee Battle) Old School Hip Hop / Hiphop
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The original technical lyricist live on stage rippin' it up with his fellows from the Treacherous Three DJ Easy Lee and L.A. Sunshine.
Moe Dee changed Flow, Metaphors and Lyrics...Ahead of his time
AGREED...
The birth of lyrical rap...
Nowadays that is called MUMBLE rap...
@@mentorzariqi8880 THAT'S LIKE SAYING METAL IS HIP-HOP RAP... RAZE UP FOOL
@@mentorzariqi8880Oh shutup! in rock music they had hendrix and cream in the 60s then went to punk rock and metal and then grunge...wow i dont see them complaining that kurt cobain couldnt play like clapton!! theres always been BUSY BEE TYPE RAPPERS AND KOOL MOE DEE TYPE RAPPERS
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This wasn't a battle, this was a straight up massacre. I remember the next day everybody had the tape and I just played it over and over.
That was a long time ago.
Hawaiisidecar No shit dumbass
They was playing that shit in Newark too...it was over
We just covered this battle in an Academic Hip Hop class. hahahha
Pre-dates the bridge is over...#KRS One
"Excuse me Busy Bee, I don't mean to be bold
But put that ba-bidi-ba bullshit on hold"
the hardest lines that murdered busy bee!
Richard James Mendoza I didn't expect him to say it that soon.
"We gonna get right down to the nitty grit gonna tell you a little something why you ain't shit"
rawest way to start a diss
He dropped the gauntlet right there! 🔥
KMD doesn't get the props he deserves. He's without question one of the greatest MC's of all time.
Yes facts
For real for real. People need to listen and I mean really listen to I Go To Work.
Lyrics are dope but his production is mid tier sadly
WORD UP!!
Busy Bee wasn't expecting Moe Dee to come out like that. Moe Dee came to take the crown with the head still attached to it.
Canibus said “I’ll snatch your crown wit your head still attach to it “
4:07 kool moe dee went the fuck off from there
+TriLLBeatz 334 for real lol
This is my favorite kinda flow. I was trying to explain to my friends that Memphis rap (threesix) (Lord Infamous) is how rap got to were it is now and somehow I ended up here. I'm glad that I did!
Litterally the first diss Rap ever recorded
Chea .
IRON MIKE and the best
Oh yeah
Yes sir!
THIS IS NOT A RECORD
I was there! Christmas 1981, Harlem world. 116th and Lenox.
Only people who knows real hip hop understand the place you just name. HARLEM WORLD...
@@khasimabdussalaam5859 oh yeah I got to see some of the other heavy weights there like the cold crush brothers, Grand wizard Theodore and the Fantastic 5, Masterdon and the death committee. I could go on and on and I can tell you know what's up!!!
Did Kool Moe Dee win the award?? Or did Busy Bee leave with it?
Hey Buddy do you still have any tapes from back in the days to trade or sell me. I am a big collector. I have over 300 live tapes.
I was 4 days old when this went down
This track has to be top 5 diss track of all time.
indeed..
Tbh this was not a diss track
Greatest diss record of all time: Let's Go
Period
Moe Dee wasn't angry, he didn't need to curse, he didn't result to lame ass insults than any 12 year old could write, he took every aspect of LL Cool J's existence and tore them all down with a dope as fuck beat, rhyme scheme, and flow. There hasn't been a diss track like it since, especially not that overrated trash Ether.
LL still the better rapper
@@WattsUpTez10mm Moe Dee is a far superior battle rapper, but LL is a far superior songwriter.
That shit is DOPE..back when a battle ended in a handshake not a gang bang no doubt
Although I agree 💯 percent, the term "gang bang" has never sounded more cuacasian than it does in that sentence.
@@marcusfentress6894 Yeah I don't think he quite knows what gang bang means 😂
SHOUT OUT TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE, WHO WITNESSED HIPHOP HISTORY 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I was there!!
Exactly, BRO
Teddy Riley sent me here
Birth of battlerap right here
tonerz0fdubb716 on tape or wax
Not the birth of battle rap, it started in the streets. Where are these assumptions coming from?
I would say this was the first time that 2 rappers who actually had a name for themselves in the streets and we're on a lot of of the flyers and performed at all the hip hop spots battled. This battle took place in Harlem World which was kind of the Mecca of hip hop back then. This wasn't even a battles, everyone knew that Busy Bee was more of a crowd motivator type of emcee and Moe Dee was a real emcee that had skill and was killing it with those fast talking rhymes. They weren't even in the same league. Back then, we didn't call it rap, it was called being an emcee and what emcees did was rhyme which is equivalent to rappers today having bars.
@@dabaryammalak9265 it's not birth but battling previous to that was more like a cypher! He made it direct to the person vs showing that he could spit a good rap!! I just looked at a doc on this. It was pretty good!! One thing they did say though was that Busy Bee was more of a hype entertainer who pit rhymes and was having fun... They say Mo Dee wouldnt do that to just anyone
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The birth of lyricism in Hip Hop culture.
Well said !
Grandmaster melle mel is the birth of lyricism.
@@Grandmaster__Geenope this was the day it became lyrical
@@bensinneruggamer Listen A child is born with no state mind (1979).
@@Grandmaster__Gee you are right
Kool Moe Dee, doesn’t get enough respect. He is one of the fathers/pioneers of rap. This proves it and LL Kool J wasn’t original, Kool Moe Dee was. This was unbelievable coming from 1981. I lived on 131st and Broadway and went to PS 161. Not too far from the Apollo Theatre.
I think a lot of the crews and DJs from Manhattan don't get enough respect. Everything is always about the crews from the Bronx, but you hardly hear about the fearless 4, Magnificent 7, Masterdon and the Death Committee. I grew up on 140th and Convent. I used to DJ in the park on 128th and St Nicholas terrace.
I was not there myself, grown up in Yonkers at the time. But I have records from the treach 3 crash crew, fearless 4, gm flash, t ski valey, just 4, spoonie Gee, Dr. Ice., Dr jeckyl Mr Hyde, the sequence, lady dee, super wolf, sugarhill gang, funky 4 + 1, jazzy 5, jazzy 3, and always hearing tapes from these rap battles. I loved the rap scene during the early 80s. A very special time it was.
This was real freestyling! Especially since Moe D wasn't even in the rap battle until Busy Bee started talkin to much crap. I remember this battle like it was yesterday. This is classic!!!
Damn busy bee got ripped.
Kool moe dee even admitted his ego was out of control at the time. This is what rap battling should still be
Wow me and my sister was there that night! Remember like yesterday
Major pause for the hype man at the end but damn Kool Moe Dee went in!
Billionaire Jean 😂😂😂😂 Facts!!
Ayooooo I thought I was the only one who was gonna say something about that 🤣🤣🤣
Major pause!!! ⏸ 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Meaning of shit changed over the years I see 😂😂 BIG PAUSE
At 4:05 he went fucking Nuclear🔥🔥🔥
Yoooo! First time actually hearing this. He fucking snapped!!
I was there!!!
Really?
This wasnt 100 years ago lol
Did he win the award??
Talk about what you remember that night. And do you have any other tapes? I have over 300 live tapes from that era. I'm serious about this look me up.
OMG.... I Woulda died ...
Kool Moe Dee killed it!!
This is some of the best shit I've ever heard straight up
its 2018 and that still sound hard as shit ,rappers today can't even freestyle like that
Emanating Faucet logic couldn’t ever freestyle this well
@@natecortese1189 Nah I kinda rushed that comment but there's a lot of people today that could I reckon, they're just not that well-known. I mean Black Thought can.
Rappers today can't freestyle period!!!... much less even coming close too this!!!!!
@@natecortese1189 Listen Kool Moe Dee is clearly a really good rapper and freestyler but logic can rap and freestyle circles around him any day
2023 and yup it's still hard
I didn't know Moe Dee had such a long run in hip-hop. I thought he was like a mid-80's rapper I didn't know he was early 80's. He sounds better than most dudes of the era. He was ahead of his time.
More like the 70's. He's one of the youngest rappers of the *old* school.
If you get a chance, check out "A New Rap Language" by the Treacherous Three, released in 1980. Then compare it to other rap songs in that era and you can see how advanced Moe Dee and the T3 was in terms of technical merit, lyricism, wordplay and rhyme structure
Plus...Moe was doing fast raps as early as 1978, the year before Rapper's Delight was released
kool moe dee & the treacherous three + t. la rock started in the 70's, they are truly old school a.k.a. true school hip hop emcees.
Sea Pea MOE-D IZ L8 70'S - TIL NOW!!
I went to Old Westbury College with Kool Moe Dee. He used to come to school with head to toe leather on just like he did on stage. The baddest MC ever. My all time favorite. I still listen to his song "Turn It Up".
Anthony Mack Turn It Up Is My Shit!
Anthony Mack Did you ever talk to him?
Shout out to Old West
@@thema1998I used to just speak to him casually, like saying what’s up, but I never had a conversation with him. I deeply regret that.
Crazy like this is the first official Diss and is still one of the hardest all time.
check out kool moe dee's death blow
Screw 8 mile Eminem couldn’t hold a torch to this man kool moe dee would destroy him the movie should be about kool and this moment
On that legendary night in New York Kool Moe Dee just thought he was trying something new with his rhymes but little did he know he would single handedly change the course of Hip Hop battle rapping and history FOREVER!!!
URL ,CHROME23! QUEEN OF THE RING, YUR WEELLLLLLCCCCOOOOMMMMEEEE!!!
Classic rap battle put down and without the foul language...truly genius. I could never get tired of listening to this.
4:43 This was 1981, 5 years before Rakim. This shows Kool Moe Dee was rhyming intricately before Paid in Full. Rakim is still legendary but Moe Dee is underrated
RAKIM AMD KANE BOTH SAID THEY STUDIED MOE DEE IT IS NOT A SECRET..MOE DEE STARTED THE DOUBLE TIME RAP TREND TOO..THE FIRST BATTLE RAP GOING AT A RAPPER
Gotdamn this shit harder than Meek Mill's entire catalouge
Joe Kori The AntiPoet factss
He slaughtered Busy Bee. Damn!!!
Damn right
Drake too
What does this have to do with meek mill😂
Thank you Kool Moe Dee for all the artist we have now.
yea he lost that one there was no coming back he demolished him he lost all points but at the end of it they became friends they're still friends to this day I wish all rappers could do that
my first time hearing this and he went off
damn and its not a slow tempo freestyle its fucking uptempo as fuck
Feel The Heartbeat (instrumental) was one of the greatest breakbeats ever next to The Drummer's Beat, Good Times and Bounce, Rock, Skate, Roll.
He was pretty vicious. The Zodiac Sign diss was hilarious and accurate.
The most entertaining rap battle ever
4:00 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kool Moe Dee on fire that his voice change by the frequency of the lyrics….true definition of god speed
JFC this is outstanding!! (Beastie Boys Book brought me here)
See what happens when you read a wonderful book ? :)
He came out throwing nothing but haymakers on this freestyle
I'm glad to have found this.
If you did not have this battle tape, you were a DUCK!
Damn LL did bite his style. Sounds like rock the bells
Call me uncle. Cool J called himself uncle as well.
This sounds NOTHING like LL’s Rock The Bells. 🙄
@@Akumaa2000 I'm talking about the rhyme style
@@acewilliams7917 heard the lyrics as a read it, lol.
@@marcusfentress6894 what timing.
dam when he started double timing at 4:02 that was ahead of his time
kool moe dee & the treacherous three actually invented it.
that's actually where eminem's rapgod really originates from.
andrew bintang Nah my g, Papa Levi and Tippa Ire from Saxon sound system were the first to do it. Rap copied dancehall reggae and particularly the mc’ing
@@WorldEndMedia nah my g, sir william bardsville of Stratford upon Avon near Oxfordshire invented back in the 1590s. Dance hall got its whole style from Olde England. Particularly the mcIng
@@IknowMoreThanYou Lol funny Olde Chap aren't you 😂
first freestyle diss ever and the best ever
Paulie Tonoro this aint the 1st battle ever. You are stupid! They were battling on the streets before this. This is the first battle on hip-hop record. What i mean by record is documented.
I swear that’s what he means anyway.
first rap with swearing too
WTTA Music Check out Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five's track " Superrappin' ", where Melle Mel says: "Got sent up for an eight year bid. Now your manhood is took, you're a big tag. Spend the next two years as an undercover *FAG* ".
The song came out in 1979, the Busy Bee diss came out in 1981 so it (the Busy Bee diss) wasn't the "first rap with swearing".
thx
.....and the battle rap subgenre was born 🔥🔥🔥
I love hearing beautiful pieces of hip hop history😍😍😍
The day Hip Hop changed forever 👊🏻
Wild style is the illest and greatest hip hop movie ever!!Hands down.
speak!
beat street too
These lyrics would still kill most if not all mumble rappers today
When he started double timing 💥💥💥
Never thought I can hear this on youtube... Thanks a lot
This is real Hip Hop. When it was about having a good time and rocking the crowd.
that's what it's about now more then ever. look what happened at astroworld. ik your comment 4 years old but still
@@Jjdhjsjshshs Nah, hip-hop needs to get back to what it was in the 80s. Not this robotic lifeless craft we got today.
@@acewilliams7917 You gotta accept new music or else you gonna be stuck in the past. Ain’t nothing lifeless or robotic it’s just not something you used to
@@Jjdhjsjshshs No, it's lifeless and robotic, and everyone sounds the same. No originality, and you want me to except that? No thank you. I'll stay in the past where there's quality music.
Remember Kool Moe in Beat Street. greatest hip hop movie ever.
+Sirius “Broadcasters” Live
I got "Straight Outta Compton" then "The Art of Rap" and then "Beat Street". That "Copyright Criminals" and "Founding Fathers of Hip Hop" were on point too.
+Stoney Jackson straight outta Compton was a better movie than Beat Street, but Beat Street tapped on the hip hop culture. The music, the dance, the art, and the life. Straight outta Compton was about NWA.
+skeetajohnson
No argument from me. I was reaching with Straight Outta Compton really. In terms of an actual scripted film and purely about hip hop culture I'd say Beat Street hands down.
skeetajohnson Wild Style was a better movie
skeetajohnson Straight Outta Compton is the best hip-hop movie.
Great upload. Nothing like Moe Dewese. History
This is the 1980's No Vaseline. Lmfao!!
Agree
The template for all the MC battles to follow. Kool Moe Dee the rap LORD!!
Wow....just wow...The lyrical slaughter here is amazing.
If there was one thing about Kool Moe Dee, he knows how to diss real good. 🔥
One rhyme in and the crowd is already like, Oh _Shit!_
Who here after Kendrick vs drake? FBA battle rap history!!!
Hi
Fba ? Bronx was full of Jamaicans
SAVAGE
In the place to bee
I have never heard nuthin like this in my life before WOW
This revolutionized hip hop and changed the landscape of it forever ❤
03:38
That's when Kool Moe Dee surpasses even himself.
OMG This is awesome pwnage!!!!!!!
2018 and this shit still hard
Ah nice Hip-Hop Track and a very rare one.
Yes.. You know who's who!!! My favorite is THE COLD CRUSH BROTHERS.. Back then they all was making HISTORY it's a shame the real history of hip hop is only known by a handful of people. So many CLASSIC crew's that rock back in the early days. Much RESPECT to you..
It's US, You know it's US, The Cold Crush!!!!
- The Baddest Hip Hop Group Ever!!! The CC4!!!👍👍👍👍
IT'S ALL GOOD LL JUST PUT COLD CRUSH ON THE ROCK THE BELLS TOUR SO NOW THE GREAT GRAND KIDS CAN HEAR SUM ORIG.HIP-HOP!
"In the place to B"
legendary
Dam I loved this was there. That shit was on a tape and everybody in New York had to hav a copy! Played on every basketball court from boom boxes. Classic Kool Moe D Harlem Baby
I was there at HARLEM WORLD! 🔥💯
Now this is REAL RAP.... Nothing like today's bum ass diss records... SMH
Kool Moe Dee was soooooo hard core... And it's true no one ever ever ever heard no rhymes like these
just one thumb up?
this is it!!!!!!!
Dude, did Busy Bee even get a chance to rap at all?
He got his chance just before. :)
busy bee didn't battle though. he was just performing.
His line goes he was "The #1 rapper of the year" and he had been saying he would take out any other emcee in New York.
KMD just responded. That's how it goes. There can only be one #1. If you say that's you, then it's battle. The fact that you're weak and lame don't change that. Especially when you're stealing shit.
Roasted Pheasant He did perform before Moe Dee. This recording is missing Bee's part.
Naw he was down in the vip...when he heard it too late
REAL HIP HOP this shit thats out now sucks!!!!
exactly the old rappers need more credit. only good rapper ik now is kendrick and u find great rappers in underground like run the jewels. logic is good too
feelin that!
Brendan Vick. I love u like grandmamas cake crumbs talk that talk! Moe D could t8k out that 1 wit the red beads in his hair 2day!
I love that when Treacherous Three had a battle with Run-DMC Jay told Dee to go easy on them because he knew they didn't have a legit chance.
CLASSIC SHIT
KMD Murdered BB!! Man I remember when this shit hit the streets we was all like WOAH!!!!! The tape was hot everyone was trying to get a copy of it. Blessings to both OG's Pioneers of Hip Hop!
A piece of music history :)
Kool moe dee rock the house
this kendrick drake battle but modern times if yall catch my drift
Best battle thyme EVER!!!!
Even if it wasn't the place to be he sure made you feel like it was
That end part damn this boy Moe D was way ahead of his time wow!!!!
Fun fact: Busy B adapted that 'baw ditty baw' line from the song "Blue Moon" as performed by The Marcels. Kid Rock did and interpretation of it as well for his song Bawitdaba.
i done listened to this 3 times and a row... my uncle told me to burn how ya like me now cd and i was watchin beef 1 and heard bout the battle... old school at its best
kool moe dee's lets go, death blow, gimme my props & whosgotdaflava would be even better tracks so check them out!
In the place to be! Classic hip hop
See Hip-Hop started as Party music and ever decade since theres always been Busy Bees and Kool Moe Dees...In 2023 i can listen to some Kendrick or Benny the butcher or Lil Uzi and Young Dolph...Raps evolved so much!! i love how theres a rapper for every and anyone...in the 90s everyone wanted to be hardcore...now theres rappers for nerds, jocks, gangstas, lonely kids, weirdos, druggies, Hip-Hop is the new rock & roll
"Busy bee, my man, you know I went off"
Yeah I'd say he did. I wanna hear this for the first time again.
the first disrespectful battle rap. Respect 💪🏿✊🏾
I just found out that in New York at that time the (punk rock) scene and the (hip-hop) scene molded together and this tape is how we got artists like The Beastie boys etc..
The Clash actually headlined shows with Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five and another group I cant remember at the moment.
Wow for what year it was fuck n amazing.moe was on a next level.
i wonder if they were in the place to be.....
Classic moe dee went off respect to both mc s tho
Kool Moe Dee killed it