There is marginal difference +/- 5-10-15 points. They're showing you the difference that you can actually see. Which you can then logically conclude, the higher, the better. This is why you get better badge levels with higher attributes. They are presenting this data as simply as possible, but obviously not simple enough for people like you ❤
@@TheAnthonyoliver27 HOW DO WE KNOW IF ITS NOT TESTED THATS THE POINT. WE DONT WANT TO INVEST 90 SPEED INTO OUR BUILDS IF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 80 AND 90 SPEED IS 0.1% MORE SPEED.
Yall put 40 and 90 like of course thats gonna be a huge different, i would like to see 75 and 90, that would be a lot better and gives the player a visual if its worth getting 90 agility over 75, same for speed and strength to see tbe difference
@D4JGaming007 great point bro, I rather do it myself cuz that's not a good test, must 2k savy vets do either 75 for mid, 90 or plus for a pure lock or 60 and below for all out offensive build. A test between 75 and 90 would do wonders but I guess they don't wanna do that cuz of your point
@D4JGaming007 and they don't wanna replay back cuz they know I'm right. Bunch of sellout. We know 2klab is in the 2k payroll. I don't care what anyone says
@@superman4ever101 this is dumb. They do 40 and 90 to show that it makes a difference. most of the time the improvement is linear with the attributes, so its up to you to say "oh well if 50 is that much of a difference, then 15 must be about 1/3 of that". if you want to make your own test, hop in a myleague, copy one player over to another, and then edit the attributes on the second to be 15 less speed with ball. you can edit the attributes, badges, and even attributes on your own. If you've ever made multiple tests before, you'd know how annoying it is to test 8 different attributes. If they did that for everything, you'd complain that videos take too long to come out, and we would have 3 badge tests done by November. These tests are fucking free and require nothing on your part. 2klabs saves people hella money on their builds and here you are complaining that they dont test every attribute 25-99 for every badge/hieght/weight/build just so YOU can have the test done that YOU could have done yourself in 5 minutes
@@superman4ever101 I swear yall 2k players complain about ANY and EVERYTHING that requires even the smallest amount of effort on your part. "Shootings too hard" its day fucking 1. "test every attribute" its day fucking 1. Maybe if you spent 5 minutes in the lab instead of 4 hours bricking online and complaining about the game that you didnt even give yourself time to learn, you'd be decent at the game and stop selling online and getting the game patched for the worse
You guys are being lazy.. why are you testing the attributes by 50 attribute points.. this is not what I spent my money on ya program for.. this is mediocre. Definitely canceling my subscription
I have a 6’3 at 6’11 wing span and 211 weight. With 90 agility with 70 strength. I think it’s damn worth it. With the agility it makes my guy feel fast.
It for sure is, also it improves a lot of your defense to, I have an 82 agility and only have 25 perimeter defense right now at the moment because I haven’t upgraded it but man it lets me stay in front of people so much easier and get decent contests off so easily. A majority of people at the moment don’t have badges though but for right now it’s working really well!!
@@ryanreliford4738 it doesn’t need contested shots to activate, after the defenders arrow switches to you - even if they aren’t close it activates. Also contested shots are not the same as last this, this year hand down is almost no contest - that whole running towards the shooter doesn’t count. I played some rec last night, shot 60%.
i just tested 60 agility vs 53 agility on a 7 footer w 226 weight every other stat was base 25 except for 99 stamina. no badges as well. the results were the same. you do not need agility unless u have a guard or perimeter badges to meet requirements for badges
Tutes put the agility testing vid out 1st. Labs just aren't going into detail to say there's still a speed difference at +5 increments. Overall the chart is linear. Higher agility = higher first step movement. There didn't seem to be any best value attribute overall other than badge requirements.
The game is just officially coming out today I been playing since early release. it's going to take some time for all the answers it's almost guaranteed a patch coming because shooting right now makes no sense
@YourFavoriteVirgo88 obviously the ppl that commented that they wanted to see the incremental differences not just a 25 to 99 jump 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ yea each channel has its followers but it's all 2k related.
Okay since they wanna be useless. I do feel a pretty good difference between 89 agility and 90. So it’s possible going in increments of 5 is the best way of doing it for now until they stop being lazy and test it in smaller increments
Do a video on the difference in weight with the same speed. Maybe I was tripping because my player was bigger but I swear he moved slower. I made a 6’8 235 pounds with an 82 speed 80 agility and tested a 6’8 210 pounds with 82 speed and 80 agility. 🙏🏾 let me know if I messed up
Some people feel entitled to the tests they want, how they want them. Personally I value your efforts regardless. That being said smaller incrememtal changes would help people more I think, since the difference in badges is often 10 points or so. Appreciate you guys, keep up the good work 👌🏾
These 2K “experts” make 2 minute video and expect people to waste their money based on this information. Lazy tests, you can find find this stuff all out by playing a blacktop or play now game before making build. Test out some of the higher rated players. Cause this information isn’t significant…
Too low you need at least 70 speed and 70 agility I have 71 speed and 59 agility with my 7'1. For speed it's good but on defense tho... my agility is kinda slow for lateral movements and good covering after pick&roll
I have these exact stats on my 6’5 with 6’8 wingspan guard and lock up on the perimeter. If anything I wish I had my speed at 70 and agility even higher
At least test some realistic numbers. Nobody has 40 agility so whats the point of testing it? Ya just half ass these tests for no reason. Why not at least test 60 vs 90 or 60vs80
@@eligreg99 what are you talkin about lol, are you new to 2k. Only thing speed and agility is used on offense is for cuts to the paint without the ball, you need speed to recover on defense on blow by a or off screens agility just give quicker reaction when u recovering.. lol
@@BULLIESBULLYI’m just saying if you had to pick between the two. You just agreed with me that agility matters in defense. Thanks for being a know it all
STOP TESTING ATTRIBUTES WITH 50 PTS OF DIFFERENCE. WE WANT TO SEE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 5-15 PTS. COMPARE 80 SPEED WITH 90 SPEED, OR SIMILAR CLOSE STATS.
Nah we want to see what attributes mean nothing. In 24 40 speed with ball was the same as 80. This is what we need to know
There is marginal difference +/- 5-10-15 points. They're showing you the difference that you can actually see. Which you can then logically conclude, the higher, the better. This is why you get better badge levels with higher attributes. They are presenting this data as simply as possible, but obviously not simple enough for people like you ❤
remember bruh you onyl care about specific numbers for badges otherwise it dont mean much unless its low or high
Did you accidentally leave your Caps lock on?😂 Or are you just this passionate about this issue? Lol
@@TheAnthonyoliver27 HOW DO WE KNOW IF ITS NOT TESTED THATS THE POINT. WE DONT WANT TO INVEST 90 SPEED INTO OUR BUILDS IF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 80 AND 90 SPEED IS 0.1% MORE SPEED.
Yall put 40 and 90 like of course thats gonna be a huge different, i would like to see 75 and 90, that would be a lot better and gives the player a visual if its worth getting 90 agility over 75, same for speed and strength to see tbe difference
Nope they dont wanna do that lol... cuz then people will make better builds than them
@D4JGaming007 great point bro, I rather do it myself cuz that's not a good test, must 2k savy vets do either 75 for mid, 90 or plus for a pure lock or 60 and below for all out offensive build. A test between 75 and 90 would do wonders but I guess they don't wanna do that cuz of your point
@D4JGaming007 and they don't wanna replay back cuz they know I'm right. Bunch of sellout. We know 2klab is in the 2k payroll. I don't care what anyone says
@@superman4ever101 this is dumb. They do 40 and 90 to show that it makes a difference. most of the time the improvement is linear with the attributes, so its up to you to say "oh well if 50 is that much of a difference, then 15 must be about 1/3 of that". if you want to make your own test, hop in a myleague, copy one player over to another, and then edit the attributes on the second to be 15 less speed with ball. you can edit the attributes, badges, and even attributes on your own. If you've ever made multiple tests before, you'd know how annoying it is to test 8 different attributes.
If they did that for everything, you'd complain that videos take too long to come out, and we would have 3 badge tests done by November. These tests are fucking free and require nothing on your part. 2klabs saves people hella money on their builds and here you are complaining that they dont test every attribute 25-99 for every badge/hieght/weight/build just so YOU can have the test done that YOU could have done yourself in 5 minutes
@@superman4ever101 I swear yall 2k players complain about ANY and EVERYTHING that requires even the smallest amount of effort on your part. "Shootings too hard" its day fucking 1. "test every attribute" its day fucking 1. Maybe if you spent 5 minutes in the lab instead of 4 hours bricking online and complaining about the game that you didnt even give yourself time to learn, you'd be decent at the game and stop selling online and getting the game patched for the worse
You guys are being lazy.. why are you testing the attributes by 50 attribute points.. this is not what I spent my money on ya program for.. this is mediocre. Definitely canceling my subscription
Thanks bro I knew there website was some cash grab garage
@@andrewvega1308lmfao, calling someone lazy because they’re not doing the work FOR YOU is crazy 🤣💀
@@SumSav204 I didn’t call them lazy I’m thanking this guy for saving me my money and time
Can yall include 5-10pt increments next time? maybe from like 60-99
is speed boosting still affected by ball handling or speed with ball?
bro you aren’t explaining the results you just showing them
Exactly 😂
right like wtf
2ktutes explained agility and speed so far
Because it’s self explanatory if you watch the screen lol
@@Jmoore-8 you can never trust 2k on that😂
I have a 6’3 at 6’11 wing span and 211 weight. With 90 agility with 70 strength. I think it’s damn worth it. With the agility it makes my guy feel fast.
It for sure is, also it improves a lot of your defense to, I have an 82 agility and only have 25 perimeter defense right now at the moment because I haven’t upgraded it but man it lets me stay in front of people so much easier and get decent contests off so easily. A majority of people at the moment don’t have badges though but for right now it’s working really well!!
I put 93 strength on my 63 n I'm stopping everyone on the drive
@@ko10td36’3 guard with 93 strength? Why? Just curious
that’s actually low key smart asf
@@ItsRilez idk how to describe it but I feel like a bully defending and handling the ball
Please test strength
Please test that mini marksman. I wanna know if i need to go 6’3 or not
I look at that badge as a pocket and roll badge, you get the benefit after the bigs arrow picks you up
Making yourself short specifically to hit contested midranges is not the move.
@@ryanreliford4738 it doesn’t need contested shots to activate, after the defenders arrow switches to you - even if they aren’t close it activates.
Also contested shots are not the same as last this, this year hand down is almost no contest - that whole running towards the shooter doesn’t count. I played some rec last night, shot 60%.
@@ryanreliford4738 it also works on regular set shots, I referred to pnr because that’s usually when a taller defender would be on a 6’3
@@ryanreliford4738 logically true. I just wanted to know if the badge made shooting over people overpowered or something
i just tested 60 agility vs 53 agility on a 7 footer w 226 weight every other stat was base 25 except for 99 stamina. no badges as well. the results were the same. you do not need agility unless u have a guard or perimeter badges to meet requirements for badges
Thank you, your comment is better than this whole video.
I think your agility should be higher than your speed because it helps your change of directions on both sides of the ball
So does this mean speed and agility actually matters?
Obviously
😂😂😂😂@@anthonygomez9918
Tutes put the agility testing vid out 1st. Labs just aren't going into detail to say there's still a speed difference at +5 increments. Overall the chart is linear. Higher agility = higher first step movement. There didn't seem to be any best value attribute overall other than badge requirements.
The game is just officially coming out today I been playing since early release. it's going to take some time for all the answers it's almost guaranteed a patch coming because shooting right now makes no sense
Who cares who put it out first. Both channels have their own supporters.
@YourFavoriteVirgo88 obviously the ppl that commented that they wanted to see the incremental differences not just a 25 to 99 jump 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ yea each channel has its followers but it's all 2k related.
Facts. Tutes > 2k labs when it comes to these tests.
Okay since they wanna be useless. I do feel a pretty good difference between 89 agility and 90. So it’s possible going in increments of 5 is the best way of doing it for now until they stop being lazy and test it in smaller increments
I’d like to see badge strength for rebounding, interior d and blocking. Does legend make sense to go for ?
Can we get a test of speed with ball vs speed, side by side...?
So is it recommended to have your Speed with ball as high as possible or at least 40 for normal animations a 7ft center?
Can you look at interior and perimeter defense for small guard builds? These contests are non-existent and gotta know what I need to change next time
Do a video on the difference in weight with the same speed. Maybe I was tripping because my player was bigger but I swear he moved slower. I made a 6’8 235 pounds with an 82 speed 80 agility and tested a 6’8 210 pounds with 82 speed and 80 agility. 🙏🏾 let me know if I messed up
🔥🔥 Vertical next??
Now I know I didn’t just watch this to see yall compare a 90 to 40 overall 🤣😭
goated Channel the only one that still makes good vida instead for making them 13 min long for no reason
Thank you Mr Koza. Very informative! Keep up the good work sir 👍
i wanna know which stat measures change in direction with the ball, cuz I swear agility matters idc what it says.
Some people feel entitled to the tests they want, how they want them. Personally I value your efforts regardless.
That being said smaller incrememtal changes would help people more I think, since the difference in badges is often 10 points or so.
Appreciate you guys, keep up the good work 👌🏾
I have 90 agil & speed on a 6’6, literally just run and your untouchable 🤣
Your other stats must be in the fxckin gutter
These 2K “experts” make 2 minute video and expect people to waste their money based on this information. Lazy tests, you can find find this stuff all out by playing a blacktop or play now game before making build. Test out some of the higher rated players. Cause this information isn’t significant…
What is the recommended speed and agility rating ????
Speed and Agility above 70 minimum
How do you quick stop like that on the fast break? 2:10
Dimer! Legend gotta be worth it right?
This is 2k labs in 2025 …… wow thanks for showing me that the attributes do exactly what the description says.
Can you test vertical please
Thanks as always 🙏🏼
The people have spoken. It’s bad enough that they both the game at full price. Why not explain each detail?
Make vid about 3pt green window
So A Center Is Valid With A 65 Speed & 40 Agility?
my joel build has 70 speed 50 aagility
Too low you need at least 70 speed and 70 agility
I have 71 speed and 59 agility with my 7'1. For speed it's good but on defense tho... my agility is kinda slow for lateral movements and good covering after pick&roll
I need to know the difference between 79 and 80 agility lol but fr tho
Dammm I kinda regret making mine have 76speed and 74 agility . With 86 strength and 80 vert as a 6"9 pf sf
Can you test if weight affects stamina
Please test vertical
Too many missed variables messed up your correct analysis …
my eyes might be deceiving me but looks like there is not much of a difference between 90 speed and 40
I need a test on mini marksmen
can you please make a high passing pg build 95+ pass acc?
We need the premium jump shots family
labs discount code?
🚨Please 🙏🏽
Test Limitless Range🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
koza is apart of 2kLabs wtf
Is 81 speed and 82 agility fine for a 6’3”?
I wanna know this also
I have these exact stats on my 6’5 with 6’8 wingspan guard and lock up on the perimeter. If anything I wish I had my speed at 70 and agility even higher
ty
Legend Shooting badges please😭😭
Strength next pls
Informative *
Another day another bad build from 2k labs. At least yall are consistent…. At putting out trash builds.
Jumpshot testing??
Can you test strength please
Please perimeter defense against ball handler
Bro put some builds out on yalls site, paying premium for fucking nothing lol
2k lab season 🥹💙
PASSING ACCURACY PLEASE
At least test some realistic numbers. Nobody has 40 agility so whats the point of testing it? Ya just half ass these tests for no reason. Why not at least test 60 vs 90 or 60vs80
So you can pay
Where the jumpshots
Idk how yall want to spend 200+ in this game.Swear yall pay pigs love getting abused
Tutes is better
Yes same
test free throw lol
W
First 🔥
yes sir !
First
so speed dont matter
It does for 5s other than that not really
Speed always. Alters just not too high you’ll be good with a 75-80
Speed matters on offense. Agility matters on defense
@@eligreg99 what are you talkin about lol, are you new to 2k. Only thing speed and agility is used on offense is for cuts to the paint without the ball, you need speed to recover on defense on blow by a or off screens agility just give quicker reaction when u recovering.. lol
@@BULLIESBULLYI’m just saying if you had to pick between the two. You just agreed with me that agility matters in defense. Thanks for being a know it all