I tried the Lisle pipe stretcher set with the 15 ton knock out punch set from Amazon you listed. Something has changed because the pipe stretcher uses a 3/4 inch draw stud & the knock out punch uses a 19 mm draw stud. They won't work together without some kind of adaptor!
The Fab Forums I’m with John Lanham on this one, and I’d read this entire reply fab forum guy, it may do ya some good. So please take a couple minutes and read it, thanks. I searched the Ol’ RUclips’s for a MAC Tools part number SK17350 which is basically the exact set up as the Lisle, maybe a slight bit different but not much. Got excited when I seen @thefabforums video pop up because this guy does some pretty damn good and cool tool review videos. This one absolutely sucked ballz though. How the hell did we go from introducing the lisle tube stretcher/expander tool to rambling on and on about a harbor freight hydronic knock out punch and a dimple die set up for 10 minutes ??? I wanted to see the Tube expander In action phi and it just sat on the corner of the table the whole time. No explanation or demo on how it works in action.. I mean come on man, you HAD TO KNOW this was an absolute shit video. Seriously lol. You couldn’t demo the tool with that “tons” of tubing laying around? Nobody clicked the video to see the knockout punch OR dimple die set up, those should have been their own videos entirely. I’m not even sure how those two tools took over the tube expander explanation, but they should have never even been on the table. The only things that should have been on that table should have been the tube stretcher/expander, some scrap tubing and an impact gun. That is it!!Instead we got 10 minutes of babbling on and on about some bullshit nobody wanted to see or hear about. And the best part is the fact that there was no demo on a tool that the video was supposed to be about to begin with lol. @The fab forms, this video absolutely sucked and you missed your mark by a mile... and when someone else pointed it out and asked you by saying “you didn’t have a single section of tubing laying. Around you could have used to demonstrate the tool with”? , (which is why everyone clicked on the video) YOU reply, “Tons”. What kinda bullshit answer is that?? I think you need to do a follow up Video to apologize for this major fuck up. And actually do a video doing an actual demo on how this tool works since you have “Tons” of tubing laying around. Maybe try being a little more humble and a lot less arrogant when you get on here and answer peoples questions... your attitude and the way you respond to people can be the difference between having 272,000 Subscribers and having 1 million +... just sayin’.
I agree. This video could have been 8 minutes shorter and actually useful with a simple demo. One piece of pipe, the tool and a 1/2 cordless impact. Stretch a piece of tube, wham bam, this is the tool and why you need it. I don’t know what this ramblethon was all about. I also agree the “yeah tons” response was downright rude.
I HAVE THE LISLE KIT FOR YEARS AND LOVE IT. THIN WALL LIKE 18 OR 20 GAUGE EXHAUST(STAINLESS OR ALUMINIZED) SWEDGES LIKE BUTTER. 14-16 GAUGE TAKES A MINUTE.
It's an excellent set. I git mine through my snap-on dealer. Had it for several years now. Never fails. It is helpful to put a little grease on the expanders to keep them from galling.
Hey Voss small tidbit, for high pressure thread applications like that center bolt for the lisle tool, put a dab-a-do of copper antisieze on the threads, not aluminum but copper antisieze. Copper one reduces the prssesure on the threads hence saving the threads. Your pressure will apply to the entire center pull bolt then and not just on its threads. I use copper antisieze on crows foot and 3 jaw pullers. After learning that little trick with antisieze my puller/pusher tools last way longer.
JUST PURCHASED THE SAME HYDROLIC HOLE PUNCHER FROM HARBOR FREIGHT THAT YOU USE IN THE VIDEO. I COMBINED IT WITH THE HF AIR OVER HYDROLIC FOOT PEDAL TO USE SHOP AIR WITH IT INSTEAD OF A HAND PUMP. WORKS PERFECTLY ON THIN WALL STAINLESS PIPE AND 16 GAUGE ALUMINIZED STEEL EXHAUST PIPE. YOU'LL NEED HYDROLIC HOSE THAT CAN HANDLE AT LEAST 40,00 PSI(FOR RAMS OR A LIFT). FITTINGS AT 1/4 IN NPT THREAD TO USE ON PUMP AND EXPANDER RAM. TOTAL GAME CHANGER. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE VIDS.I CAN SEND YOU A VID OF IT IN ACTION IF YOU LIKE
I have that kit it works great I use a impact on it a little oil on the thread and in the bearing and never had a problems with it I only ever used on steel pipe
I used the Lisle pipe stretcher kit with the Harbor Freight hydraulic knock out kit to fab my 3" T-304ss dual exhaust on my G8. The tubing was .065 and it had no trouble expanding to fit one inside the other.
Right on, Mr. Voss!👊😎 I've always been tempted to get that other design, but due to poor reviews online, plus seeing / hearing your dissatisfaction, I held off from making the purchase. This sounds like redemption, especially if you're doing a lightweight aluminum exhaust. One final thought... I've read the comments, most of them are supportive ones, but there will always be that couple that you just can't satisfy. Dude, most of us realize that you don't even have to do this, but we're very grateful that you choose to.🙏 As always, thanks for another glorious video and have a great weekend, brother.👍😁
I literally went and bought those style pipe expanders last week based on your previous video in which you recommend them. Guess what, they're rubbish. Now you post a video to confirm that. Cheers for confirming. 😅
Cool to see the tool review again. I have that set along with the add on set for 4 and 5" tube . I use the 5" pretty regularly for heavy truck exhaust and it works good. I use an impact but I grease the crap out of the dies to reduce friction, helps big-time. Pretty cool using the knock out punch cylinder to apply pressure. Might want to check out a 10,000 psi air over hydraulic port-a power pump to run the cylinder. Like you said , turning the dies helps with getting an even expansion joint.
Cool. I'm gonna have to give that one a try. The only way I could get that first kit you showed to work was by adding some heat.. and the tool did not like that for obvious reasons.. Thanks for a great video.. and don't worry.. most of us don't need a demonstration to understand how something works.
Haha 3 years later.. Anyhoo, Kyle wish I had seen this video back when you ‘published’(🤔) it. Tried to use one of those pipe expanders today it was an almost total fail.. then I stripped the threads… DOH… I didn’t lubricante them in the haste to get things done although I’m not sure that would have worked in preventing this happening… no doubt I didn’t help.. now maybe just going to order a flanged section of pipe to weld into my exhaust.. probably quicker.. I am rubbish at welding to.
If you use that head on your bender be careful we have had issues with ones blowing seals when doing large holes or people pumping it after the ram has full retracted
For ppl who find this in 2021, i recently purchased these and i have to have a stud made to fit the pipe stretcher cause theyve changed the threads on the stretcher so it no longer fits
This is the 2nd video of yours YT suggested because I am looking at tube stretcher. This is the 2nd video where you dont show the tool working. The tool in your link is 180 bucks but on another video where the guy actually... ya know, stretched a tube had it for 118 bucks. If you are doing tool review videos you should really show the tools in action. If you want people to actually buy from the link then the price should be somewhat competitive.
I have a vod on my channel, how to refill a greenlee hand pump. Its a hydrolic knock out set that punches holes in steel and such for sparkies like me. This looks like I could spin in on my draw stud on my greenlee hydrolic slug buster kit and be able to go clickety clack and make that mama jamma work Edit 5:29 fxck me. Yeah, thats the deal. Damn 😂😂😂 😅
I used my flaring tool last weekend , bolt stripped before I finished 1 piece of pipe!!!! TOTAL JUNK !!!!! Don't waste your money on this trash , go hydraulic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those cheap pipe expanders are really only good for trueing previously clamped pipe ends. Gets rid of that crimp that makes fitting new parts a pain. Pretty useless for making your own slip fit joints on a custom exhaust.
I will say that this tool kit works great I use it a lot mostly the 3-inch to 3 1/2 inch piece. My only complaint is how messy it gets because you have to keep the thing greased up really well when in use and if you're not wearing gloves oh my God. Then you have to use your impact to run in that bolt and you're getting grease all over your impact gun now.... matter of fact I hate this tool kit haha
I tried the Lisle pipe stretcher set with the 15 ton knock out punch set from Amazon you listed. Something has changed because the pipe stretcher uses a 3/4 inch draw stud & the knock out punch uses a 19 mm draw stud. They won't work together without some kind of adaptor!
You didn’t have a single section of tubing laying around you could use to demonstrate the tool ?
yeah tons
The Fab Forums
I’m with John Lanham on this one, and I’d read this entire reply fab forum guy, it may do ya some good. So please take a couple minutes and read it, thanks.
I searched the Ol’ RUclips’s for a MAC Tools part number SK17350 which is basically the exact set up as the Lisle, maybe a slight bit different but not much. Got excited when I seen @thefabforums video pop up because this guy does some pretty damn good and cool tool review videos. This one absolutely sucked ballz though. How the hell did we go from introducing the lisle tube stretcher/expander tool to rambling on and on about a harbor freight hydronic knock out punch and a dimple die set up for 10 minutes ??? I wanted to see the Tube expander In action phi and it just sat on the corner of the table the whole time. No explanation or demo on how it works in action.. I mean come on man, you HAD TO KNOW this was an absolute shit video. Seriously lol. You couldn’t demo the tool with that “tons” of tubing laying around? Nobody clicked the video to see the knockout punch OR dimple die set up, those should have been their own videos entirely. I’m not even sure how those two tools took over the tube expander explanation, but they should have never even been on the table. The only things that should have been on that table should have been the tube stretcher/expander, some scrap tubing and an impact gun. That is it!!Instead we got 10 minutes of babbling on and on about some bullshit nobody wanted to see or hear about. And the best part is the fact that there was no demo on a tool that the video was supposed to be about to begin with lol. @The fab forms, this video absolutely sucked and you missed your mark by a mile... and when someone else pointed it out and asked you by saying “you didn’t have a single section of tubing laying. Around you could have used to demonstrate the tool with”? , (which is why everyone clicked on the video) YOU reply, “Tons”. What kinda bullshit answer is that??
I think you need to do a follow up Video to apologize for this major fuck up. And actually do a video doing an actual demo on how this tool works since you have “Tons” of tubing laying around. Maybe try being a little more humble and a lot less arrogant when you get on here and answer peoples questions... your attitude and the way you respond to people can be the difference between having 272,000 Subscribers and having 1 million +... just sayin’.
same as episode 59?!? expand some pipe
I agree. This video could have been 8 minutes shorter and actually useful with a simple demo. One piece of pipe, the tool and a 1/2 cordless impact. Stretch a piece of tube, wham bam, this is the tool and why you need it. I don’t know what this ramblethon was all about. I also agree the “yeah tons” response was downright rude.
Who wants to see some walls get stretched
I HAVE THE LISLE KIT FOR YEARS AND LOVE IT. THIN WALL LIKE 18 OR 20 GAUGE EXHAUST(STAINLESS OR ALUMINIZED) SWEDGES LIKE BUTTER. 14-16 GAUGE TAKES A MINUTE.
good to know
It's an excellent set. I git mine through my snap-on dealer. Had it for several years now. Never fails. It is helpful to put a little grease on the expanders to keep them from galling.
I have had the expander set for years doing exhaust on school buses. The hydrolic adaption is a great idea.
Yeeees! Friday tool is back! Finaly more stuff I didn't know I needed!
Hey Voss small tidbit, for high pressure thread applications like that center bolt for the lisle tool, put a dab-a-do of copper antisieze on the threads, not aluminum but copper antisieze. Copper one reduces the prssesure on the threads hence saving the threads. Your pressure will apply to the entire center pull bolt then and not just on its threads. I use copper antisieze on crows foot and 3 jaw pullers. After learning that little trick with antisieze my puller/pusher tools last way longer.
JUST PURCHASED THE SAME HYDROLIC HOLE PUNCHER FROM HARBOR FREIGHT THAT YOU USE IN THE VIDEO. I COMBINED IT WITH THE HF AIR OVER HYDROLIC FOOT PEDAL TO USE SHOP AIR WITH IT INSTEAD OF A HAND PUMP. WORKS PERFECTLY ON THIN WALL STAINLESS PIPE AND 16 GAUGE ALUMINIZED STEEL EXHAUST PIPE. YOU'LL NEED HYDROLIC HOSE THAT CAN HANDLE AT LEAST 40,00 PSI(FOR RAMS OR A LIFT). FITTINGS AT 1/4 IN NPT THREAD TO USE ON PUMP AND EXPANDER RAM. TOTAL GAME CHANGER. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE VIDS.I CAN SEND YOU A VID OF IT IN ACTION IF YOU LIKE
I missed Fridays, Fool! Great to see a tool vid! Thanks Kyle!
I have that kit it works great I use a impact on it a little oil on the thread and in the bearing and never had a problems with it I only ever used on steel pipe
I used that Lisle set for years when I was a tech in the field using an impact & it worked great for the 20 plus years before I switched careers.
good to know
Finally a you need this tool video again 👍 keep them coming regulary please if you can 😀
Keep up the good work my man 👍
Genius set up. Love the advice.
I used the Lisle pipe stretcher kit with the Harbor Freight hydraulic knock out kit to fab my 3" T-304ss dual exhaust on my G8. The tubing was .065 and it had no trouble expanding to fit one inside the other.
Love that intro. Best intro on "the Tubes"
Friday fools. Tools are back. Gonna purchase this one.
I would have liked to see it expand some pipe! Looks decent tho...
@J.C. Kohle You're dead wrong, tell me where it's being used in the video.
So good to see these videos back!!!!
Right on, Mr. Voss!👊😎 I've always been tempted to get that other design, but due to poor reviews online, plus seeing / hearing your dissatisfaction, I held off from making the purchase. This sounds like redemption, especially if you're doing a lightweight aluminum exhaust. One final thought... I've read the comments, most of them are supportive ones, but there will always be that couple that you just can't satisfy. Dude, most of us realize that you don't even have to do this, but we're very grateful that you choose to.🙏 As always, thanks for another glorious video and have a great weekend, brother.👍😁
Not so much an alloy exhaust, especially if you expect it to last, but on intake and water plumbing, maybe?
Great picks Kyle. We use the Lisle expander at Cummins. Very same kit.
I literally went and bought those style pipe expanders last week based on your previous video in which you recommend them. Guess what, they're rubbish. Now you post a video to confirm that. Cheers for confirming. 😅
Cool to see the tool review again. I have that set along with the add on set for 4 and 5" tube . I use the 5" pretty regularly for heavy truck exhaust and it works good. I use an impact but I grease the crap out of the dies to reduce friction, helps big-time. Pretty cool using the knock out punch cylinder to apply pressure. Might want to check out a 10,000 psi air over hydraulic port-a power pump to run the cylinder. Like you said , turning the dies helps with getting an even expansion joint.
Cool. I'm gonna have to give that one a try. The only way I could get that first kit you showed to work was by adding some heat.. and the tool did not like that for obvious reasons.. Thanks for a great video.. and don't worry.. most of us don't need a demonstration to understand how something works.
Yo you just made both of those tools way more better 👍🏻🇺🇸✌️
That's one cool tool👍 Another great video....
Works awesome with an impact. If your bearing ever wears out. It's the same one for the out wheel bearing for a ford pinto
good to know !
I just called lisle and had them send me one. Don’t want to wait so heading to the LPS. Thanks Jerome!
Litterally just Started stripping the thread, first time I used the cheap one 😭 Will look into the Lisle 👍🏾
It’s Friday fool! 🙌🙌🙌
I don't care if you review a spoon or a fork , I just need the Friday fool video after a long week 😆
Not trying to apply any pressure because I like the channel either way. You do a great job but I miss the Friday videos. Keep up the good work.
Haha 3 years later..
Anyhoo, Kyle wish I had seen this video back when you ‘published’(🤔) it. Tried to use one of those pipe expanders today it was an almost total fail.. then I stripped the threads… DOH… I didn’t lubricante them in the haste to get things done although I’m not sure that would have worked in preventing this happening… no doubt I didn’t help.. now maybe just going to order a flanged section of pipe to weld into my exhaust.. probably quicker.. I am rubbish at welding to.
I rent that tool from AZ, and only use it to straighten out compressed clamp ridges, I also grease the bolt.
Nice work brother. Good seeing the friday tool segment back!
The hole punch use to use that all the time on stainless steel sheet out on site .
1st for the first time. Keep it up Kyle
i confirm..the piping expander in red boxes..yes they break ...and results no great
Yes I need that tool!!! I tried every one of them nothing worked
Lol sorry for my comment on the video from the crappy one 😂. Now I found the right video. 😂.
If you use that head on your bender be careful we have had issues with ones blowing seals when doing large holes or people pumping it after the ram has full retracted
O yeah I'm buying that set up. I really don't need it to much Haha but I just want it just in case
Heat the tube?
Lisle's a good brand name ,Im sure its very hard steel.
For ppl who find this in 2021, i recently purchased these and i have to have a stud made to fit the pipe stretcher cause theyve changed the threads on the stretcher so it no longer fits
Thank you! I thought that original pipe expander is trash. They don't work on anything but aluminum.
Where did you got the stud who fit on pipe stretcher and on knock out punch?
Just use a cheater bar on the hydraulic lever and you will get the leverage you need to expand.
This is the 2nd video of yours YT suggested because I am looking at tube stretcher. This is the 2nd video where you dont show the tool working. The tool in your link is 180 bucks but on another video where the guy actually... ya know, stretched a tube had it for 118 bucks. If you are doing tool review videos you should really show the tools in action. If you want people to actually buy from the link then the price should be somewhat competitive.
Cool tool
Don't waste your time on any of these. Go straight for a HUTH Expander...Well worth it.
I have a vod on my channel, how to refill a greenlee hand pump. Its a hydrolic knock out set that punches holes in steel and such for sparkies like me. This looks like I could spin in on my draw stud on my greenlee hydrolic slug buster kit and be able to go clickety clack and make that mama jamma work
Edit
5:29 fxck me. Yeah, thats the deal. Damn 😂😂😂 😅
Woohooo first to see the coolest tools. :-)
lol...right on
Could it work to expande an aluminum IC end pipe?
I bought one from harbor freight and broke instantly. Returned it and got another and it broke too. Lol
Just started watching your vids. Thank you for posting. Your down to earth reviews are appreciated. Keep Rocking. You had me at "It's Friday Fool.."
I've missed tool Friday. I have used one of those cheaper ones. I broke it the first time. The impact wasn't that strong either
Those cheapo ones would work better if the angles on the wedges weren't so aggressive, i guess they were trying to achieve a high expansion size
Put some STP in a squirt can use that on the threads problem solved
There is definitely a That’s what she said moment in there . 😆
Is this the first It's friday fool video from the new shop?
no I have others
Didn’t you make a similar video about these tools two years ago?
not this same set
Awesome 😎
I need a tailpipe REDUCER
wow these were like 300 2 years ago,
HEY DO I NEED THIS TOOL
I forgot this was a thing.
lol...
Would it not be faster and a lot cheaper to have a exhaust shop do that ,
if the expander was made of steel it would work better
it is
@@Thefabforums I thought it was aluminum?
@@rafatrill the expanded mech is made of steel. The adapters that go over it are alum
@@Thefabforums exactly the actual part that expands the exhaust pipe is made of aluminum
without a video demo its just hearsay.
I have that tool and feel like a fool every time I use it lmao it sucks
Why did he never use it? Does a review and doesn't use it so weird.
the red case ones are junk they dont work unless maybe if you heat the pipe up it might
Why did you stop the Friday Fool saying? Are you trying to be advertiser friendly?
وش ذا يابو سياري
You cost me money
I used my flaring tool last weekend , bolt stripped before I finished 1 piece of pipe!!!! TOTAL JUNK !!!!! Don't waste your money on this trash , go hydraulic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those cheap pipe expanders are really only good for trueing previously clamped pipe ends. Gets rid of that crimp that makes fitting new parts a pain. Pretty useless for making your own slip fit joints on a custom exhaust.
You’ve got to much money, love ya but
Don't work on stainless
This fool did not demonstrate this tool. Cause it dont work, and that's not cool.
I will say that this tool kit works great I use it a lot mostly the 3-inch to 3 1/2 inch piece. My only complaint is how messy it gets because you have to keep the thing greased up really well when in use and if you're not wearing gloves oh my God. Then you have to use your impact to run in that bolt and you're getting grease all over your impact gun now.... matter of fact I hate this tool kit haha