I was just up there for the first time. First time riding outside of FL. Had to use a borrowed hard tail that was too big for me. Was still super fun though.
I literally did this same route this past weekend with wet and squirrley conditions. It made Bennett significantly more difficult but still very rewarding.
Brian thanks for explaining to folks briefly of how the trails came to be and currently how they are being maintained. Also appreciate the link to donate to PAS. We work really hard to keep up with the erosion. Any money or volunteer help is always a godsend! When you come back (know you will!), would love to take you out to NMR, Turkey Pen and/or Bent Creek. We have worked hard on all of those trails lately! Some of them are night and day from what they were in the past year now!
You know, it's the third rider that gets bit! The first rider wakes the snake up, the second rider pisses it off, the third rider gets bit! Best to ride fourth, IMHO... Thanks for the ride!
Just as a personal preference, I liked the older cam position more enjoyable. In this ride for instance, I wonder why I am watching the saddle most of the time ;) It's your choice, never mind, and I am watching for free, so no complaints. Just my 2 cents. Always envy the trails you ride, since here where I live it is kind of boaring.
I've been wanting to make it out to Pisgah for a long time, but after watching this video, I don't know if I'm ready to for the constant brutal beating from the rocks. The super technical short climbs and short rock drops seem to be the features I would focus on instead of the rim busting single track. But, once I get out there and give everything a try, I may love all of it. It's just that the trials I ride in the upper Piedmont NC are more of a constant twisting flow with constant pedaling. My trials are balanced out with equal ups and downs without excessivel roots and excessive rocks. Most of the time roots and rocks are in specific locations just to achieve the right amount of obstruction for a challenge and to control excess speed for safety.
I live and ride in this area, and I assume he means that many of the "classic" Pisgah trails weren't built with good trail conservation in mind. Some of them are in terrible shape from poor water drainage management. They have deep gullies/trenches with drops and exposed roots and rocks that actually makes the mountain biking super fun, but is allowing for erosion quite quickly. Newly built trails are usually built specifically with excellent land conservation and water management in mind and just don't play quite like these trails.
He is basically saying that these trails were meant for logging trucks and not recreation. They are mostly fall line trails and don't have much outslope. Trail maintainers have been tackling this years to keep the trail from eroding away from rain and the huge amount of riders that are riding it. Recreational specific purposed trails are built very different from these. The new middle black is 1/3 way completed and rides totally different.
Great as always! Brian what length seat post are you running? It looks like you are slammed. I have a 160 on my Ripmo with like 4 inchs of post still. looking to go long!
I cant go riding because of a problem on my bike, and we cant go to get it fixed because the shop is closed cause of covid. Watching these videos get me jealous lol, but loved the video
I think he's comparing these Pisgah trails a little too much to Bentonville trails that have been pro built in the last 3 years. Apples - oranges, but could be wrong.
Not up to spec in this case means fall line trails. Or trails built too steep compared to the side slope grade. This causes water to run down the trail rather than off the trail. Combined with skidding tires, this causes a ton of erosion. The trail become a ditch that gets deeper every year. I’ve ridden that type of trail where the ditch is nearly 10 feet deep and has turned into more of a ravine.
Love North-Carolina for mountain biking. My friends have an oncologist friend who basically owns an entire mountain side with three great trails. And from there you can connect to many other great rides. Should have studied for 7 years instead of 5, and medicine instead of philosophy and international relations. :)
@@gaberomero1740 no I don't know which is why I said do a video. Next time I will reach out to his PR team for dates... Thanks for the info brotha keep ripping.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
In the old days I'd make a joke about BKXC not jumping but sessioning a tough climb 5 times... now I can't because he climbs AND jumps better than me :(
those were not fern they were mayapple, it produces a little 'apple' that is edible once it is yellow. cool looking snake anyone know the breed?that trail looks to rough for me. too much bounce better be real experienced on that one if you dont want to fly into a tree or off a cliff. since I have not seen all your videos have you ever been seriously hurt doing this? broken something?
@@saddleweary9709 thank you, it is alot bigger than I thought the timbers get, once a guy picked up a diamond back rattler that got run over by a car and I never in my life realized how big they are (only seen in books and on tv) I was thinking those things are out there when I am exploring the woods and fields for flowers and plants and birds??!! this was in nc by the way near emerald isle
@@rosesmith6208 The biggest timber I've seen seen, the head was as big as a tight balled up fist and was about 4.5' long and guess where. Between Kinston and Trenton there's a road that breaks off 58S and comes back in near Trenton called middle road, and that's where I saw him ( I actually caught him ). South of Kinston on 58 in a place called Vine Swamp is where I live. Small world .But yeah, they get huge, sometime when you're heading to the beach stop in at the nature center in Kinston and they usually have one behind glass. Please don't let them discourage outdoor activities, they are very shy and move away long before people get close. In spring sometimes they get cold and can't move too fast but most of the time they're not seen.
@@rosesmith6208 One more thing I forgot to mention, at Fort Macon State Park there is a hiking trail threw the sand dunes that allow bikes, the trail is covered with mulch so your bike want get covered in sand. Weekdays are the best time to ride it and I highly recommend trying it along with before you get to Stella on 58 there's a place called haywoods landing, The trail head is 50 foot from the road and runs about 8 miles then another 6 but the last part is rough. At the end of the 8 just ride the gravel straight back to your vehicle. Anyway, thought you might be interested in that. Later
Putting microphones on your riding partners is the best thing you’ve done to your editing this year.
For sure! He is setting a standard right now that everyone else should probably follow!
I first saw that with his buddy Terry Barentsen in New York city. Pretty cool to hear both riders clearly.
It really pulls the whole video together
The best👍
Its awesome for sure
I love this…”The only way to clear that stuff is sound effects” so true… I love your work
Love how you include vendors and all in your productions. Always great work.
Love the way you show how challenging and fun the climbs can be! Too many you tubers discount them.
Seeing a shot of BKXC on a bike w/o a huge backpack......mind blown
Loving these Pisgah runs! right up my alley!...
Rode upper, middle and lower black and then this back to back a week ago. Epic!
I was just up there for the first time. First time riding outside of FL. Had to use a borrowed hard tail that was too big for me. Was still super fun though.
Those trails look pretty awesome
Follow cam on send it Sara was awesome. She’s such a great rider. Nice video bro. Very exciting
Man, I've been watching for a while and your skills have improved so much. Inspiring! Thanks for the vicarious living!
It was nice running into you guys at the Hub.
that timber rattler was awesome! great riding!
Always love to see your vids from my backyard, hoping that an RIP OG Black Mountain video is on deck!
Black mountain is SO good...
I literally did this same route this past weekend with wet and squirrley conditions. It made Bennett significantly more difficult but still very rewarding.
Brian thanks for explaining to folks briefly of how the trails came to be and currently how they are being maintained. Also appreciate the link to donate to PAS. We work really hard to keep up with the erosion. Any money or volunteer help is always a godsend! When you come back (know you will!), would love to take you out to NMR, Turkey Pen and/or Bent Creek. We have worked hard on all of those trails lately! Some of them are night and day from what they were in the past year now!
P.S. my wife rides a Ripmo and I ride a Ripley all over that!
this is such a perfect Pisgah day.
Sweet; I’ll be there in two weeks!
Rattlers are common here in SoCal too. Squirt a little water on them and they go away. So simple but effective and safe for all.
I was just there last week!!! Awesome place to ride!
Great video. Just did Avery Creek a few days ago.... Legendary fun!
There are some fantastic trails in Pisgah area...my favorite was Bennets gap
Looks amazing, I need to make that trip
I did these trails on a Chasing Epic trip… best riding in the US in my opinion
Another great video 🤘
I actually just picked up a new 2021 transit for work it is so awesome man it would make such a great road tripping rig!
Avery, Bennett, and Trace Ridge make for the perfect day
you should do a video of a retro bike ride (90s + build)! and talk about the difference of "of then and now"!.. V Brakes ,shifters and everything
Always good time in Pisgah...let’s go back to Bentonville
Brian, those little umbrella like plants are called May Apples but hard to tell in video, just fyi..
Love your channel! Come out to Northern VA and we’ll show you a hell of a time, trails and plenty of beer!
just went there this spring... dunno if I'll ever go past it to pisgah again!
Avery has already been rerouted and sustainable-ized, FYI.
Congrats, Brian! 🤙
Awesome video!!
We just got done riding Fire mountain in Cherokee and you have to check it out. Solid 45 minute climb but the trails are flowly and fun as can be!!
You know, it's the third rider that gets bit! The first rider wakes the snake up, the second rider pisses it off, the third rider gets bit! Best to ride fourth, IMHO... Thanks for the ride!
You know you're in Pisgah when you say "I'm IN my lowest gear"
And questioning whether your chain is still on..
Just as a personal preference, I liked the older cam position more enjoyable. In this ride for instance, I wonder why I am watching the saddle most of the time ;) It's your choice, never mind, and I am watching for free, so no complaints. Just my 2 cents. Always envy the trails you ride, since here where I live it is kind of boaring.
great video!! hi brian and sarah!! have a good evening. i hope all is well.
Great quality product
3:30 oh man, every climb I've ever been on has been a bit of a soul-dinger, lol!
@BKXC when do we start getting some Sarah gopro angles so we can see you ride occasionally? Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the ride
I'm so stoked to get to Pisgah and you're fanning the flames of impatience!! Ha. Killer ride my friend,
You should get BoBo , Seth, Steady Spin, and ping the Sampler! Group ride!!
Just posted a video on my channel TODAY of the same two trails…. Bennett is my favorite in all of Pisgah (yes, better than Farlow IMO) 🤘🤘🤘
Sarah shreds!!!!
To me, Black Mtn is the most fun downhill on the East Coast USA. Hope they don't ruin it.
I drove 750 miles just to ride it!
4:18 When you said air pressure required were you suggesting lower or higher pressure for these trails?
whoever can climb up the stairs to upper without getting down deserves a standing ovation. I've done these trails and I gave up on the stairs
I've been wanting to make it out to Pisgah for a long time, but after watching this video, I don't know if I'm ready to for the constant brutal beating from the rocks. The super technical short climbs and short rock drops seem to be the features I would focus on instead of the rim busting single track. But, once I get out there and give everything a try, I may love all of it. It's just that the trials I ride in the upper Piedmont NC are more of a constant twisting flow with constant pedaling. My trials are balanced out with equal ups and downs without excessivel roots and excessive rocks. Most of the time roots and rocks are in specific locations just to achieve the right amount of obstruction for a challenge and to control excess speed for safety.
amazing video
What does Brian mean when he says "you could never build this today because it's not up to spec"? at 6:45
I live and ride in this area, and I assume he means that many of the "classic" Pisgah trails weren't built with good trail conservation in mind. Some of them are in terrible shape from poor water drainage management. They have deep gullies/trenches with drops and exposed roots and rocks that actually makes the mountain biking super fun, but is allowing for erosion quite quickly. Newly built trails are usually built specifically with excellent land conservation and water management in mind and just don't play quite like these trails.
He is basically saying that these trails were meant for logging trucks and not recreation. They are mostly fall line trails and don't have much outslope. Trail maintainers have been tackling this years to keep the trail from eroding away from rain and the huge amount of riders that are riding it. Recreational specific purposed trails are built very different from these. The new middle black is 1/3 way completed and rides totally different.
That was just amazing.
Sustainability is all about erosion control. I agree with the Forest Service.
I felt that plead for a ibis e bike xD
Likeeeee greetings from Indonesian Borneo brother
Pain and pleasure!
Rattlesnakes in the middle of a trail is exactly why the Bunny hop was invented. :)
Haha so true
Hello from nepal 👍
Bennet is the best trail in West Pisgah. Hands up.
Are you gonna go to beech mountain?
Lol Brian has officially gone full enduro, goggles on the half shell but not actually using them. 🤣
you should do a group ride while you're here @bkxc
Avery is the best downhill in Pisgah!
Great as always! Brian what length seat post are you running? It looks like you are slammed. I have a 160 on my Ripmo with like 4 inchs of post still. looking to go long!
Awesome video Brian. What bike does Sarah ride?
I cant go riding because of a problem on my bike, and we cant go to get it fixed because the shop is closed cause of covid. Watching these videos get me jealous lol, but loved the video
can you tell me what the brand of your bikes is and model please ?
i wana see bkxc and sarah do a night trail ride , that would be awesome !!!
I live in NC just wondering if the trail has a name I would love to go ride it food looks great as well
Nice ride…
I was just wondering if you can share your go pro settings?
Thanks!
Just Google bkxc gopro settings, he has a website for his whole setup
I would like to understand what "not up to spec" is on double black diamond trails.
I think it's from an erosion and sustainability perspective.
Thanks. That makes sense.
I think he's comparing these Pisgah trails a little too much to Bentonville trails that have been pro built in the last 3 years. Apples - oranges, but could be wrong.
Not up to spec in this case means fall line trails. Or trails built too steep compared to the side slope grade. This causes water to run down the trail rather than off the trail. Combined with skidding tires, this causes a ton of erosion. The trail become a ditch that gets deeper every year. I’ve ridden that type of trail where the ditch is nearly 10 feet deep and has turned into more of a ravine.
@@dfiler2 Thanks, man. That's very helpful.
Where is this trail!?? Looks awesome
Pisgah forest near Brevard, North Carolina. In the video description BKXC provides the Trail Forks Ridelog.
@BKXC Where do you position the go pro? waist or chest? That is a nice angle. Thanks
Always on the chest, but getting the right angle is always tough! Things move around
Check out West Delray Regional Park (MTB trail) and Markham Park (MTB trail) Florida
So, there are Bigfoot in that forest. Stunning! Look out for it :-)
Love North-Carolina for mountain biking. My friends have an oncologist friend who basically owns an entire mountain side with three great trails. And from there you can connect to many other great rides. Should have studied for 7 years instead of 5, and medicine instead of philosophy and international relations. :)
Still with ya, Brian...
Is this a fisheye lens? What set up are you running?
selalu menyenangkan
I'm not sure which gimbal you are using... but that wuz a good test. I think it passed.
Don’t think he uses a gimbal any more as he uses GoPros hyper smooth feature
SNAKE !!!!!!!!
I love riding technical stuff but i always get unbearable cramps in my fingers so bad i can barely hold the handlebars, any advice?
I used to get those especially when riding park with all the breaking bumps. Switched to RevGrips. Problem solved (for me at least :)
Yeh great ride
Pisgah or Bentonville?
Do an episode on Seth's new pad since you're in the area!
You know he releases his videos about a month after filming them right? He’s probably long gone from the area by now
@@gaberomero1740 no I don't know which is why I said do a video. Next time I will reach out to his PR team for dates... Thanks for the info brotha keep ripping.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Hello! What is the wheel size of your car?
Came here on hardtails once... worst idea and never again lol.
What is Sarah's bike computer?
Could you do this trail on a hard tail?
A hard tail can do any trail, it depends on the rider.
See Blake Samson ride the megavalance on a hard tail as evidence.
Hi
Killer 🤘🏻
Very amaze nice 😍 stronger
Wait a rattlesnake in North Carolina?
In the old days I'd make a joke about BKXC not jumping but sessioning a tough climb 5 times... now I can't because he climbs AND jumps better than me :(
Mark my words... virginia will be the new "pisgah" ! it's like pisgah 15 years ago before the crowds...
Unless they all start youtubing it then you'll be screwed also
@@mountainslapstick6170 the big youtubers already have... Can't complain too much thats how I found it combined with some locals info
@@Projectnortheast Well thats unfortunate. Thats not reassuring at all. Hate that for the locals there...
Awww you skipped the gap jump on Avery.
hi
those were not fern they were mayapple, it produces a little 'apple' that is edible once it is yellow. cool looking snake anyone know the breed?that trail looks to rough for me. too much bounce better be real experienced on that one if you dont want to fly into a tree or off a cliff. since I have not seen all your videos have you ever been seriously hurt doing this? broken something?
Timber rattler
@@saddleweary9709 thank you, it is alot bigger than I thought the timbers get, once a guy picked up a diamond back rattler that got run over by a car and I never in my life realized how big they are (only seen in books and on tv) I was thinking those things are out there when I am exploring the woods and fields for flowers and plants and birds??!! this was in nc by the way near emerald isle
@@rosesmith6208 The biggest timber I've seen seen, the head was as big as a tight balled up fist and was about 4.5' long and guess where. Between Kinston and Trenton there's a road that breaks off 58S and comes back in near Trenton called middle road, and that's where I saw him ( I actually caught him ). South of Kinston on 58 in a place called Vine Swamp is where I live. Small world .But yeah, they get huge, sometime when you're heading to the beach stop in at the nature center in Kinston and they usually have one behind glass. Please don't let them discourage outdoor activities, they are very shy and move away long before people get close. In spring sometimes they get cold and can't move too fast but most of the time they're not seen.
@@rosesmith6208 One more thing I forgot to mention, at Fort Macon State Park there is a hiking trail threw the sand dunes that allow bikes, the trail is covered with mulch so your bike want get covered in sand. Weekdays are the best time to ride it and I highly recommend trying it along with before you get to Stella on 58 there's a place called haywoods landing, The trail head is 50 foot from the road and runs about 8 miles then another 6 but the last part is rough. At the end of the 8 just ride the gravel straight back to your vehicle. Anyway, thought you might be interested in that. Later
That rattlesnake was well camouflaged.