Dr Kat and The Rainbow Portrait

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @frightbat208
    @frightbat208 4 года назад +69

    Holy moly I did not realise there were eyes and ears on her dress!!

  • @lisascenic
    @lisascenic 11 месяцев назад

    One cannot overlook the technical skills of the painter and members of his studio. The pearls in particular are astonishingly represented.

  • @corncrackerkid5092
    @corncrackerkid5092 4 года назад +5

    This happens to be my favorite portrait of Good Queen Bess and it’s so cool to see the little symbols painted in! If I remember, the dress in this portrait was used as an altar cloth in a local English chapel and it was only discovered what it was a few years ago

  • @beautyforashes2022
    @beautyforashes2022 3 года назад

    So much symbolism and such a beautiful gown. I'm blown away by how jewel encrusted it is. Every border and edge is lined with pearls and precious stones, it's so gorgeous and opulent. I also absolutely adore the colors of the gown and the beautiful and intricate embroidery, it's just so pretty. You know what I think would be a neat undertaking, is if someone took it upon themselves to design a doll that looks like Elizabeth in that portrait, along with the dress in all its beautiful detail. Basically a historical recreation doll. And there are so many talented doll and dress makers on RUclips. I could totally see one of them being able to pull this off. If they felt passionate enough about it to want to take on such a project.

  • @cathryncampbell8555
    @cathryncampbell8555 4 года назад +24

    Thank you for your detailed & informed analysis of this portrait, Dr. Kat. I've always loved Elizabeth's use of pearls, as they ironically represented both Aphrodite, Greek goddess of Love, *and* the Virgin Mary. A further association would be with the maritime power of England, whose ships sailed around the world. Sir Walter Raleigh was painted wearing a suit *covered* in pearls, in tribute to Elizabeth as the patron of sailors & the sea. What a rich iconic age that was, well before the advent of modern advertisements!

  • @tay7366
    @tay7366 Год назад

    I got taken to see this painting as a kid I will never forget it. It’s huge. And beautiful. I was mesmerised by her.

  • @lysawoolley9008
    @lysawoolley9008 3 года назад +2

    The breakdown of each aspect of the painting was very interesting. When you got to the snake with the heart, I thought of today’s tattoos. I find it interesting how tattoos have become more mainstream and usual represent what the person is about or/& their history. This painting represents more than a likeness, it is representing how the queen felt about herself or how people felt about her
    Thank you, Dr Kat. I enjoyed this video. Very thought provoking.

  • @jodigardner1553
    @jodigardner1553 4 года назад +1

    I am from across the pond and I must tell you this channel is my latest guilty pleasure...had DNA test done and 69 percent of it comes from the UK.. Aberdeenshire to be exact...although I am American I am extremely proud of my heritage and finally have proof where my stay calm and carry on ways come from....well done Dr. Kat, well done indeed

  • @shawnadyment
    @shawnadyment 4 года назад +4

    Funny I never noticed the gaunlet brooch.
    If anyone is curious for more history on this portrait, there is a piece of textile that in the past few years have been associated with this portrait called the "Bacton Alter Cloth", which historians believe to be the fabric used on Elizabeth's stomacher, and possibly the only remaining textile survived that is associated with her.

  • @carrieswank
    @carrieswank 4 года назад +1

    The symbolism of every element is incredible. I’m an American , and I’d never really thought much about kings and/or queens except how they impacted American history. However, you’ve got me hooked! I’m absolutely amazed and addicted to learning everything I can about the kings and queens of England and their lineage.

  • @kimclarke5018
    @kimclarke5018 4 года назад +9

    Dr Kat it appears many have found your wonderful videos in the last week or so. Time well spent. Hope to see some newer ones soon. Thanks

  • @michaellewis6510
    @michaellewis6510 Год назад

    One of my favourite portraits of this great Queen. Thank you for the detailed explanation

  • @katharper655
    @katharper655 2 года назад

    Dr. Kat...for me, in these Trying Times, your presentations have been a great source of pleasure, information, happiness and calm.
    *I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH*

    • @ReadingthePast
      @ReadingthePast  2 года назад

      Thank you, I’m so glad you enjoy my content ☺️

    • @katharper655
      @katharper655 2 года назад

      @@ReadingthePast
      I feel I've been acknowledged by a genuine personal heroine.
      Thank you, it means a great deal to me.

  • @kashesan
    @kashesan 4 года назад +11

    Thank you, Dr Kat, for this wonderfully detailed account of an enigmatic subject! Elizabeth's portraits (to me) are both revealing and mysterious at once.I had the astonishing experience of visiting Trinity College and came (unexpectedly) face to face with her as a friend was escorting me around the halls. I was stunned by the familiar portrait and felt that I had (almost) met her.

  • @pattihuke2992
    @pattihuke2992 4 года назад +2

    Love this video. I didn’t realize Queen Elizabeth was 70 ish when it was painted. This made her timeless.

  • @MichelleTheGinger
    @MichelleTheGinger 4 года назад +2

    I love how incredibly strong the symbolism is, I always admired Elizabeth I in high school, it's amazing to hear new things about how strong & complex she was

  • @donianamvar5274
    @donianamvar5274 2 года назад

    I’ve found your page and have been watching all your videos non stop. Thank you for giving us factual and interesting information. Your presentation is amazing. Thank you Dr. Kat !

  • @popcult
    @popcult 3 года назад

    This is Dr. Cat at her best: precise , informative yet passionate.

  • @pal7252
    @pal7252 4 года назад +3

    The portrait is absolutely gorgeous. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. I totally look forward to viewing your other videos. This has been so educational. :-)

  • @alicejump2290
    @alicejump2290 4 года назад

    Always raising awareness, especially of symbolism in portraits! She is a queen that lived her life through turbulent cycles and difficult choices! Thank you for investigating this representation of her monarchy!

  • @whatsupdoc1075
    @whatsupdoc1075 4 года назад +60

    I’d love to see you give the same treatment to the Holbein portrait of Henry VIII.

    • @ReadingthePast
      @ReadingthePast  4 года назад +29

      That sounds fun, I'll pop that on the list for future topics!

    • @jodydiou
      @jodydiou 4 года назад +6

      @@ReadingthePast The one where people think that Elizabeth is Pregnant. That would be a good one. P. S. I see that you already did a month ago, MY BAD!!!!

  • @candacen8221
    @candacen8221 4 года назад +2

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen this portrait, I absolutely love it! There’s so much going on, some of the small (pleats?) in the fabric by the eyes and ears make me think of mouths.
    For some reason the snake made me think of the garden of Eden (the snake and an apple/fruit) but you explained it’s a heart, I love the explanations of all the imagery. Great video, love your channel!

  • @rochelleb973
    @rochelleb973 3 года назад

    I love the way you break down your videos. I learn so much.

  • @MassiveSniffED
    @MassiveSniffED 4 года назад +48

    I ♥️ your Ducks lol 😂🥰😍👍

  • @xwiirastusx
    @xwiirastusx 4 года назад +37

    You pretty much said it all, but I would like to contribute a bit. Firstly, her headpiece, to me at least, looks a lot like the Horn of Amalthea, also known as the Horn of Plenty, signifying that she is the source of wealth and abundance to her people; the eyes and ears on her mantle can be seen in a reverse manner - the eyes and ears of the World are literally ON her, meaning she is at the centre of attention and her every move is observed by the wider audience; the snake surely represents wisdom and circumspection (Video et Taceo), but has interesting duality about it: the serpent is crowned by a Celestial Orb while holding a heart in its mouth. I believe it is symbolic of her mind belonging to the matters of state and things intellectual, while her heart belongs to her loyal subjects. She made much of declaring her motherly love to her people after all, and I'm paraphrasing here: You may have had greater and mightier rulers than I, but none of them has or ever will love you better than I.

    • @JB-ox7ib
      @JB-ox7ib 4 года назад +5

      Speaking of the snake, any significance to the garden of Eden?

    • @karenvaughan8521
      @karenvaughan8521 4 года назад +2

      the hat is a Turkish hat as worn in the Ottoman Empire. Elizabeth did exchange gifts with the sultan's wife. See the hat here on the left:
      eng.travelogues.gr/item.php?view=52427

    • @xwiirastusx
      @xwiirastusx 4 года назад

      @@karenvaughan8521 We all know that now.

    • @xwiirastusx
      @xwiirastusx 4 года назад +4

      @@JB-ox7ib Elizabeth might have very well fancied herself the New Eve, but a virginal one, who has enslaved the Serpent and made it her own.

  • @judyder3607
    @judyder3607 4 года назад

    I have watched many of your videos and learned so much! I have always had a fascination of the royal family. Thank you so much for going deeper into the Royal family’s history.

  • @dianapie1
    @dianapie1 4 года назад +2

    I’m glad you mentioned the gauntlet as it seemed so prominent in the painting and no one has mentioned it. My question is though - how would the artist be knowledgeable enough to include all the subtle symbols into a painting and would a painting of this importance need to be approved by its subject before being put out for the public or court to see? I thoroughly enjoyed your video and have subscribed as a result.

  • @starrywizdom
    @starrywizdom 3 года назад

    I love love love your Tudor duckies in the background. Drakespeare, too!

  • @indiciaobscure
    @indiciaobscure 4 года назад +1

    This was beautifully explained. Would love to see more portrait analysis by you. I love early modern portraiture, and you really summed up why. It's the birth of personality. I also enjoy the naivete (in painting) mixed with extreme skill. For example, the skin is lush and realistic, and the fabric is beautifully realized, but her bosom is strangely flat. Another aspect that stands out to me, but is probably simply the fashion of the times, is the large and delicate, almost incandescent, panels behind her ruff (are they called ruffs as well?) It adds a divine element to the portrait with the suggestion of wings or halos.

  • @jenniferp5916
    @jenniferp5916 4 года назад

    Wow, what a lot of imagery! Thank you for sharing your wisdom!

  • @Peaceshiet812
    @Peaceshiet812 4 года назад

    I saw this painting at an exhibition in Hampton Court a few months ago, it took my breath away, Thankyou for this!!

  • @ElliotOracle
    @ElliotOracle 3 года назад

    Completely. Brilliant.

  • @toniperse8285
    @toniperse8285 3 года назад

    Dr. Kat you rock!💗

  • @rachelbaker3511
    @rachelbaker3511 4 года назад

    So fun to learn with these videos!

  • @angesoup
    @angesoup 4 года назад

    Yes please, do all the paintings!

  • @yvonnemiles7633
    @yvonnemiles7633 4 года назад +1

    I’ve never seen or heard of this Portrait before! Very interesting!

  • @janvan113
    @janvan113 4 года назад

    I couldn't possibly add to any of your observations or comments on this one Dr. Kat. I am literally gobsmacked by listening to you! LOL. I never could have begun to interpret any of that from this painting, but your explanations are so very thorough and make sense of historical data that my brain isn't able to do. Love all your videos!

  • @1920darcy
    @1920darcy 4 года назад

    More like this please! Love all the symbolism and context!

  • @lvoelbel
    @lvoelbel 4 года назад

    I love , love love all of your videos wish this one was longer

  • @lesliemccann628
    @lesliemccann628 4 года назад

    Just recently found your channel and I'm addicted. Thank you for all your insight and detail one doesn't ordinarily find. I always wondered why there were eyes and ears in the mantle. Love your rubber ducks, they have such fun costumes.

  • @patbrain913
    @patbrain913 Год назад

    Thank you so much , I am a history addict, and enjoyed this so interesting

  • @nunyabusiness3738
    @nunyabusiness3738 4 года назад

    This channel reminds me of when I was little and I'd wake up super early to watch cbeebies or time team 😍

  • @evverrette1
    @evverrette1 4 года назад

    you brought out several things I hadn't noticed in the portrait. I enjoyed your talk. I always think of her hand on a ships wheel guiding ship of state.

  • @baten749
    @baten749 7 месяцев назад

    Wonderful memories well presented

  • @Jozz57
    @Jozz57 4 года назад

    Loved this piece, Dr Kat! I am an enthusiastic admirer of Elizabeth l and the Tudor period. I visited Hatfield a while back, I was an emotional mess standing in the Old Palace, just to be in a space where Elizabeth had stood was a huge thrill!! We also made our way to the rainbow portrait, and again, what a huge thrill. I have very fond memories of standing for the longest time in front of the painting, talking to one of the excellent guides (his name was Dermot) whose passion for it's symbolism and history equaled mine. A wonderful memory indeed. Thank you for your videos, they are great, so informative, i am enjoying each and every one.
    (Dermot the guide and I also commented that the rainbow has been painted in muted tones, as nothing may outshine the Queen, I wonder if you agree?)

  • @josephparlato2979
    @josephparlato2979 4 года назад

    Loved The video!! Liked it so much I went out and got a print and had it framed and hung in my study!!

  • @lorrainehockley6751
    @lorrainehockley6751 4 года назад +1

    Hello Kat, while I work here creating my own art works I am listening to your tutorials on wonderful historical 'art - e - facts' mostly Tudor times which is absolutly wonderful. As you discussing Elizabeth 1st here, could you deliver to us a tutorial on The Armada Portraits x3. At the moment they have been brought together first time? at The Royal Museums Greenwich to view, after lockdown! of course! Could you tell us more of these portraits, they are all from the same sitting? one has been cut down in size and is missing its views? would love to hear your view, facts on this subject. Very best and thank you very much Lorraine. Artist from Oxfordshire. England. May 2020 x

  • @albireadingromance
    @albireadingromance 4 года назад +6

    I saw lips in the Orange fabric.

  • @arianmarie706
    @arianmarie706 4 года назад

    Wow I was so so infatuated with this paused it so many times 🤍 did a lovey job

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 4 года назад

    Fascinating as always, Dr. K! In addition to an increasing awareness of the power of image in the Renaissance, I think there was also a general increase in the art world of the individual portrait during the that time, born out of the rise of Humanism. Most images of royal persons before then were almost generic standards. Regarding the symbolism, I think there is also a hint of Alexander’s Amun Re ram’s horns.

  • @mizfrenchtwist
    @mizfrenchtwist 4 года назад

    great share, that is a beautiful portrait . thank you , for sharing..........

  • @MsLogjam
    @MsLogjam 4 года назад

    Nothing like an autumn beauty, even though the hat looks like a basket for a Thanksgiving centerpiece. I read that Charles Worth designed a costume for himself that was inspired by the eyes + ears print. Now there's someone who would make an interesting video, the man who invented the fashion industry as we know it.

  • @trojanette8345
    @trojanette8345 4 года назад +17

    Can you do the same analysis for her so called " Gloriana" -- it's the portrait where she is wearing the black dress.
    Q: Regarding that portrait. Was that portrait done before or after her defeat of the Spanish Armada?

    • @robblack5248
      @robblack5248 4 года назад +1

      In the video. Armada 1588, portrait 1600.

    • @robbiemclaurin1852
      @robbiemclaurin1852 4 года назад

      Feel better soon...love your channel!

  • @joansmith3296
    @joansmith3296 4 года назад +26

    I've always thought the whole virginity thing was just propaganda Elizabeth pushed as a way of avoiding marriage. She didn't want to share her power with any man and I can understand that completely. Neither would I. But she loved Robert Dudley til the end of her life and kept his last letter. I find it hard to believe they didn't get together at some point.

  • @kristenkehrli1968
    @kristenkehrli1968 5 лет назад +2

    Mercy Mercy Mercy !!! Anne of cleves portrait by holibien that basically sealed Cromwell’s Downfall

  • @fetijajasari6624
    @fetijajasari6624 4 года назад +1

    It struck me that in this portait is also a lot of symbolism that depicts
    her as a kind of Virgin Mary substitute.The pearls,the whitmess of her skin,the flowers on her dress,all the symbols that makes her some sort of fountain of all good and fruitful....

  • @kittyewilliams6476
    @kittyewilliams6476 4 года назад +2

    Hello Dr. Kat! I just watched this video. I would love it if you covered the two portraits of QEI in which she is wearing a green dress, one having what appears embroidered roses and the other without them. I'm curious to hear what your insights are.
    Thank you!
    Kittye in Oklahoma

  • @jodydiou
    @jodydiou 4 года назад

    Ayep me ducks!!! I love your ducks in the background. This was a very interesting video. You are becoming one of my favorite Channels!!! I'm learning so much. I think the painting is beautiful and I never really heard of it before this. The only picture of Elizabeth I that I know of is the one where people think that she was PREGNANT!!! I'd love to get your take on this one. Also the eyes and ears are CREEPY 😂

  • @suemiller9842
    @suemiller9842 4 года назад

    Love the vibrancy of this dress. There is one symbol that has me puzzled. In her right hand she is holding something. I first thought it was a rainbow, but it appears to be transparent - like water. (The well spring of living water, maybe????) Any thoughts? I also love the portrait of her in white (the Ditchley portrait?). The storm clouds are breaking, the sun is shining onto her, and she is standing on a map of the world. The jewel encrusted dress, speaks volumes about her wealth and power.

  • @maggieskelton5588
    @maggieskelton5588 4 года назад

    i would haved loved to have been in one of you classrooms, great presentation!

  • @jessicamackan170
    @jessicamackan170 2 года назад

    Well done 👏

  • @deborahmerkerson1145
    @deborahmerkerson1145 3 года назад +1

    My reaction to the eyes and ears on HM garment was that it was a threat by Elizabeth…. If you crossed her, you could lose your head, represented by eyes and ears. Could it also represent a sense of humor, since I am sure she knew her reputation?

  • @katherineshields4025
    @katherineshields4025 4 года назад +1

    Hello from Oregon USA-I enjoyed this video very much! I would love to hear you speak on "The Great Picture Triptych" by Jan Van Belcamp, there is an awful lot going on in that painting, or "Bright Souls" by Joan Carlile a woman painter, who would have guessed? Thanks

  • @helenaanderson512
    @helenaanderson512 6 лет назад +3

    I'm a student doing a research paper on this portrait, and I've noticed that many of the symbols could be interpreted as relating to Rosicrucianism. Do you have an opinion on that? Also, there are some documents suggesting that Ann Boleyn may have been interested in, and exposed to, esoteric knowledge while she was in France. Any opinions or suggestions on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

    • @ReadingthePast
      @ReadingthePast  6 лет назад +5

      Hi Helena, thanks for commenting!
      I think it may well be possible to read the symbols of the Rainbow Portrait as being connected to ideas that would go onto become the cornerstones of Rosicrucianism. Her patronage of John Dee also lends weight to her having some interest in elements of it. I would not wish to go as far as to say that the presence of these symbols proves that Elizabeth, Cecil or Issac Oliver were themselves proponents of it. Certainly, it seems impossible that anyone in Elizabeth's England would have self-identified as a follower of Rosicrucianism (as I can't find a trace of the term before the late 1600s). What do you think?
      As for Anne Boleyn's education while in France - unfortunately, as far as I am aware, we have very little evidence of her actual experiences, but we can look to the reports of Margaret of Austria's court to find reports of a court enraptured by "new learning", such as that of Humanist scholars like Erasmus. It is, therefore, possible that Anne might also have encountered more overtly esoteric ideas. Could you point me in the direction of the documents you are referring to?

    • @helenaanderson512
      @helenaanderson512 6 лет назад

      Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions-it’s much appreciated.
      I wasn’t really suggesting that Elizabeth and Cecil were followers of any particular group, but was curious about the specific symbolism that seems to indicate more than a passing interest in occultism and/or alternative knowledge. I labelled them as Rosicrucian because I recognized them from previous research.
      As for the documents I was referring to, I heard about them from a connection in Poland. They are apparently written in an archaic Balkan language (old Prussian maybe?) and allude to some kind of heretical knowledge that Anne Boleyn and others may have been involved in around 1519. I was hoping that you might already know about them.
      One of the frustrating things about history, is that the deeper I go in my studies, the less I actually know, and the more questions I have about things that don't make sense.
      Thanks again for helping out an old lady labouring through a history degree. I really enjoy your videos, and would welcome any suggestions you might have for further reading.

    • @ReadingthePast
      @ReadingthePast  6 лет назад +4

      Ahh, I see, thank you for clarifying - I think that one of the most fascinating things about the symbolism in Elizabeth's portraits is how many ways they can be read. My first inclination isn't to read them as esoteric or occult, however, I can certainly see how the proliferation of eyes and the placement of hands could be cogently read in such a way.
      As I like to complicate things... I suppose my question would be, as with all the symbols in all the portraits, is who is responsible for placing them there? Whose narrative is this? Elizabeth I's? The person who commisioned it? The artist? Those who approve or ban the images?
      You are absolutely spot on about the way that further study shows you how much you don't know - I hope it will help you to know that I still feel exactly the same. I know a lot about a very little! As proof, I have not come across those documents (but I would love to see them)!
      In terms of further reading, Roy Strong's work was vital for my understanding of the portraiture of Elizabeth - in particular, "The Cult of Elizabeth" and "Gloriana". I also know that Matthew Dimmock (who supervised my doctorate) is looking at The Rainbow Portrait in his new book - working title "Elizabethan Globalism" - so when that comes out (no date yet, so you'll have to keep your eyes peeled), it will be the very cutting edge of research. To whet your appetite, it is focused on Anglo-Chinese engagements!
      I am so pleased you like my videos and I really hope you are enjoying your degree! Do let me know if there are any topics that you would like me to look into making a video on!

    • @helenaanderson512
      @helenaanderson512 6 лет назад +1

      @@ReadingthePast Wow--I'll be very interested in that book on Elizabethan globalism when it comes out: I can see how the symbolism in The Rainbow Portrait would be relevant to that topic. I'm also doing an extended minor in art history, and have been collecting original Japanese and Chinese art since I was 12 (in other words, a very long time), and am very curious about the Chinese element you mentioned.
      As for future videos, one of the frequent things I've noticed from reading English and American primary documents--more so in court documents--is the mention of divining for the location of treasure, as well as the actual digging for treasure. There is even a mention of this in John Dee's angel conversations, where he asks the angels to help him locate a treasure dig to help him with his finances. While the idea seems ridiculous, I've spotted it too many times to dismiss it. What on earth would make so many people think that treasure is found by digging in the ground?

    • @ReadingthePast
      @ReadingthePast  6 лет назад +1

      That is a really good point and an excellent question! I will have to dig around to try and find the origin of the buried treasure fascination!
      With regards to the Anglo-Chinese relationship - we often see the Chinoiserie explosion as belonging to later centuries - I was fascinated to discover that Robert Cecil had a substantial collection of Chinese porcelain. The myth in England was that the Chinese buried the raw materials in the ground so that their grandchildren or great-grandchildren could "harvest" the finished porcelain to sell! (Another type of buried treasure perhaps?!?)
      There were also a few - failed - attempts to get letters from the English court to China during Elizabeth's reign.

  • @joannedavis1991
    @joannedavis1991 4 года назад +1

    Another fascinating video! I too would like the portrait of Henry VIII. Thank you .

  • @madelinecreates6390
    @madelinecreates6390 4 года назад +9

    WOW that Orange Cloth seems so 21st - 22nd century! But eyes, ears, and "mouths" is what I see!

    • @jkgannon1049
      @jkgannon1049 4 года назад +1

      I see vague facial structure framing the eyes, too.

    • @auntkaz422
      @auntkaz422 4 года назад +3

      I see mouths in the folds too.

    • @sandra-leebernier941
      @sandra-leebernier941 4 года назад

      I see mouths in the folds too

  • @jennieeveleighlamond
    @jennieeveleighlamond 4 года назад +2

    What is the symbolism of the mouths on the dress? You mentioned the eyes and ears, but there are mouths too.

  • @johnraggett7147
    @johnraggett7147 2 года назад

    Dr. Kat, greetings, once more from Leipzig. Just watched the new Hamlet and now this. Fascinating, thank you. Just one question: do you think there is any significance in the fact that the snake has tied itself in a knot?

  • @DeidreL9
    @DeidreL9 3 года назад

    It just struck me…lm a woman, unmarried, childless, Protestant. I just felt this pang of empathy for Elizabeth!

  • @AB-nk7ng
    @AB-nk7ng 4 года назад

    Aaah! Just saw her Henry the eighth duck! Where did you get them?

  • @jodybranham6556
    @jodybranham6556 Год назад

    Hello Dr. Kat. - I’d like to add that there appear to me to be images of mouths (lips) in the folds in the fabric. This would make sense as you then have the eyes, ears, and lips represented.
    Secondly, I would like to ask, do you know the origin of the interpretation of the Latin “title” of the painting? I question the Latin interpretation.
    Thank you,
    Jody

  • @karenvaughan8521
    @karenvaughan8521 4 года назад +1

    Do you think the portrait was cut down from a larger size, and maybe a pair with the pregnancy portrait? I was watching a youtube presentation by David Shakespeare suggesting this.

  • @Magic_in_York
    @Magic_in_York 3 года назад

    I would love you to try and decipher the Holbein painting of Sir Thomas Moore and his household. It is thought by some that the young man standing to the right by the door is, in fact, the younger son of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville, Richard - one of the missing Princes in the tower.

    • @jameshalley9763
      @jameshalley9763 2 года назад

      I would like to know more about the Princes in the Tower. I had ancestors who were half brothers thru Edward IV , and some who were half brothers thru Elizabeth Woodville's son, the Grey's. It would be interesting if they will ever be able to determine dna lineage to these prince's. I don't think I have any Tudor blood that I know of, but one of my ancestors married Jasper Tudor, and Henry VIII killed my ancestor, the Duke of Buckingham. I am a descendant of Henry Carey, but it wasn't proven that he was a son of Henry VIII either. Henry Carey served his 1st Cousin Queen Elizabeth I all his life, and she provided him a marvelous Tomb in Westminster Abbey. I am related to four of Henry VIII wives, 2 were aunts and 2 were cousins of my ancestors. Interesting what dna might answer.

    • @Magic_in_York
      @Magic_in_York 2 года назад

      @@jameshalley9763 Yes, DNA testing could certainly help solve a very old mystery. If only HM The King would approve it!

  • @SilverDawnArrow
    @SilverDawnArrow 4 года назад

    I always thought the rainbow in this portrait looks like a glass tube, but that could just be an effect of the paint aging

  • @miab3694
    @miab3694 4 года назад +2

    I think a painting of Marie Antoinette might be interesting

  • @thomas351
    @thomas351 4 года назад

    ...you have me quite excited to the point that will venture a thought ...if she is holding the rainbow witch she out shines as dominant over all and she is the pot of gold ...of course that legend may not been known at that time ???

  • @lizl6232
    @lizl6232 4 года назад

    Great

  • @benpaulbaxter
    @benpaulbaxter 4 года назад

    the imagery of the tudor period was enhanced by the development of oil painting from artists such as Van Eyke. If you look at imagery during medieval times it was in illuminated manuscripts, stained glass etc and were very limited in the ability to convey individuality. Oil painting could convey a much more detailed version of the subject and also was a long lasting medium.

  • @karenthesheepgirl1909
    @karenthesheepgirl1909 4 года назад

    Another good one. Hope you are soon feeling well.

  • @karenvaughan8521
    @karenvaughan8521 4 года назад

    The hat is in the Turkish style - Elizabeth was known to correspond and exchange gifts with the wife of the Sultan of the Ottoman empire.
    See here for a hat in this design: on the left.
    eng.travelogues.gr/item.php?view=52427

  • @ebarrios08
    @ebarrios08 3 года назад

    Dr Kat would you be able to do a episode about what happened to Elizabeth and Robert Dudley?

  • @annwhiteaker6144
    @annwhiteaker6144 Год назад

    I dont know enough about the art of this period to be sure, but it occurs to me that British art prior to the eye-opening arrival of Hans Holbine was so parochial that earlier monarchs were quite satisfied with mediocre portraits. It's generally admitted that the Renaissance arrived late in Britain.

  • @mcpucho
    @mcpucho 2 года назад

    👏👏👏

  • @nerdyninjatemptress
    @nerdyninjatemptress 4 года назад

    Interestingly enough, the rubies also have a Biblical meaning to them. “Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies” Proverbs 31:10 KJV. KJV is a bit too modern for her since it was ordered by her successor but as I’m not a biblical scholar, I can’t make heads or tails of the various versions so I went with what I could find.

  • @staceyjohnson3617
    @staceyjohnson3617 2 года назад

    👍🏻👍🏻 👍🏻

  • @Jeffhowardmeade
    @Jeffhowardmeade 6 лет назад

    Happy New Year, Dr. K! Where do you think Cecil placed the Rainbow Portrait? Did Bess get to watch everyone eat, or maybe she was in the library, shushing everyone?

    • @ReadingthePast
      @ReadingthePast  6 лет назад +4

      Happy New Year to you too, Caius! I hope you and yours had a lovely festive period!
      So, I'm not sure of the layout of Cecil / Salisbury House so my thoughts are based on the construction of other properties from the period; but I think the portrait probably moved about a bit - for the housewarming (if that's where it got displayed first) it may have been placed in the hall where the masques took place or in the room where the banquet course was served.
      During the last year(s) of Elizabeth's reign, it would have had to be placed somewhere for maximum visibility (to prove Cecil's loyalty and closeness, of course), so maybe on the staircase looking down on everyone who entered? Or taking pride of place in the picture gallery in proximity to portraits of the Cecil family?
      After Elizabeth's death, I would imagine that it would be partially retired from its earlier prominence - maybe this is why it gets moved to Hatfield House at some point after Cecil has it built?

  • @kahrenthriscutt3269
    @kahrenthriscutt3269 4 года назад

    Very Interesting! I also noticed that the pearl edging of the cloak has eye shaped clusters, could this be intentional? And with regards the gauntlet, there must be a significance to the cube in the palm?! A right hand to be sure, left hands were seen as devilish, and Biblically, the sheep are gathered on Christ's right hand side, the goat's on His left.. etc etc... Am very curious about the cube...

  • @lindahedman3115
    @lindahedman3115 4 года назад

    An observation on my part is the symbolism presented by artists representing distinctly opposed to Queen Elizabeth’s Protestant beliefs. Would she not have realized these suggestions of contrary belief systems being represented on her portraits. You also presented the pregnant portrait? Beautiful art, but contradictions. Was there a less rigid representation at the end of her life? Thank you for your wonderful work. Linda Hedman

  • @angelwhispers2060
    @angelwhispers2060 2 года назад

    Personally I think the wildflowers on her bodice are more symbolic of agricultural fertility of her land she's displaying that The Virginity of her body does not stop the production of her land.
    This is a point in time that despite being Protestant monarchs are still believed to have a sort of mystical power to bring prosperity and health to the land and the agricultural produce of their Nation and if a monarch behaves badly well that's the cause of famines. The wildflowers in this regard show that though she is personally still a virgin the power of God as projected through her has given good harvests and peace and stability to her land.
    Even symbolically no one would be under the delusion at this point that Elizabeth was somehow going to mystically give birth to a child no one's that stupid. This is as you said a political picture not a picture meant to depict reality.
    In Celtic symbology she is embodying the Virgin the mother and the Crone. With her symbols of both virginity on wisdom and fertility of the land. She is married unremovable from the land of England and she has served it above everything else even her own happiness. In this image she is Gloriana, she is the Magnificent soul of her Nation personified. She is master of her Nation as a queen regnant, not merely a consort. The land has prospered under her rule showing that these decisions she has made are divinely blessed. The fertility of the English wildflowers specifically means that she is untamed and she is confident in her own mind and the land is in agreement with her, as they've had no famines during her reign.

  • @elfsemail
    @elfsemail 4 года назад +8

    I was intrigued when you said this portrait was painted when she was actually in her later years. I wonder if you would do the same treatment to my favourite portrait, that of Princess Elizabeth as a young girl by William Scrots and the "death" portrait painted seven years after her death. A truly remarkable woman.

  • @aughost69
    @aughost69 4 года назад

    Love the duckies

  • @AdamLovesMusic
    @AdamLovesMusic 2 года назад

    Such a cool/interesting video!! Have you seen the painting “The Entrance of Mary I with Princess Elizabeth into London, 1553” by John Byam Liston Shaw? It is absolutely spectacular, and would be an interesting piece for a similar analysis :)

  • @sn9731
    @sn9731 4 года назад

    Wait, did Elizabeth ask Cecil to add all those things in, or did he just go off on his own interpretations of her??

  • @Sophia-hh4fg
    @Sophia-hh4fg 4 года назад

    Please do this is the portrait that's speculated that is a pregnant Elizabeth I

  • @maryharris2330
    @maryharris2330 4 года назад

    Is Elizabeth's gauntlet pin attached to her collar with a curl of her hair, or perhaps wig? 😯

  • @virginiacox4470
    @virginiacox4470 4 года назад

    I am wondering if the eyes on the dress could also have been something to do with her nickname for Robert Dudley which was 'Eyes' could he have also been her ears? Did they have a long running joke on eyes and ears? Maybe a message of her everlasting love or a tribute to him, as he died in 1588, probably leaving her missing a very dear friend and trustworthy statesman.

  • @jamescad9978
    @jamescad9978 3 года назад

    Is orange a symbol of protestantism at the time of the painting?

  • @Arree1969
    @Arree1969 4 года назад +1

    Is this the “lost dress” that is in the church?

  • @MrsArcticRainbow
    @MrsArcticRainbow 4 года назад

    Did this dress actually exist? Or was it purely an artistic creation for the portrait?

  • @williamjones8462
    @williamjones8462 4 года назад

    Hello! Love your videos. I tend to read the snake and heart on her dress a bit differently; mord as Elizabeth's wisdom in avoiding love issues / sin as the heart is not really in the snake's mouth fully. Also, would you consider doing a video on the 1599 ban on satire? I have published on this, but I would love to hear your thoughts.