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You took the words out of my mouth. I swer we should have kicked Hungary out of the EU since last election. Hungarians, save your country before we have to save ourself from you.
Liberal bullshit! Majority of hungarians still vote for Orban. Tisza is just another "all liberals come together" wannabe wish. Tisza already declared support of lmbtq and other liberal ideologies.
Small correction. Orbáns rein didn't start in 2010. His first therm was 1998 - 2002, than there was an other governing party, that was very bad, and he won every election since 2010 till now.
@@123_1 that reminds me of the traditionnal right in France that practically ruled France non stop since after WW2 (RPF, UDR, UPR, UMP, LR) but when in the rare cases of opposition (PS for 2 different mandate seperated by 30 years. Or LREM from Macron with its last 2 mandates) They act as if they have nothing to do with the current state of France and explain how if they get the power, everything will be perfect in the country.
Georgian here, Polls mean nothing. Expect full force of buying voters/rigging/manipulating/propaganda during election day, that will affect 15-20%. The only thing that can save Hungary is court and justice system, as long as it's independent of government.
Hungarian here: The court and justice system has not been independent de facto for a long time. Yes, there are some sentences supporting law and reason, but the real big money laundry always escapes. At the present even there is a migration of judges leaving the court for advocate positions because they are fed up with the government's indirect but strong control over them. The only thing that can save Hungary is an external, most likely financial force halting the self-maintenance of the Orbán regime. At the moment I do not see any way to persuade his voters. They are blind.
We already experiencing the manipulation. Uneducated, poverty stricken villages are either payed or threatened to vote for Orban. It's not new. I'm worried that he wont go peacefully when the time comes, but mobilises his army. He is a criminal after all, we can't expect fair play.
2023 in Hungary: - In January, bread inflation was almost 82%, food inflation was over 48%, general inflation was 26.2%, three times the EU average! - In the first quarter, real wages fell the most in Hungary with a 15.6%, which is 4 times of OECD average - In July our money lost 36% of its value in 2 years due to inflation !!! - In January, Lőrinc Mészáros, Orban's main strawman (a former plumber) increased the monthly tolls by 72% after he bought the 35-year motorway concession - Lőrinc Mészáros bought a yacht for 27 billion forints, which is almost 11,000 years of average Hungarian pension. Mészáros's wealth increased by 50%, 330 billion forints in a single year - The Matolcsy, the head of central bank (MNB), bought an apartment in New York for 14 billion forints, which is equivalent to 5608 years of average Hungarian pensions. Meanwhile, the MNB has accumulated losses of HUF 2400 billion - The Orbán family's visible! wealth reaches HUF 100 billion, Orbán's father built a mansion in Hatvanpuszta for 10 billion forints - The cows on János Lázár minister's stud farm got waterbeds for HUF 3 billion from the state! - In 2023, Romania overtook Hungary in GDP per capita, - In 2023, Bulgaria overtook Hungary in per capita consumption, making Hungary the poorest member of EU. - Hungary has the 2nd lowest average wage and minimum wage in the EU ! - The Dear Leader has finally found the miracle weapon against inflation: all you had to do was fire the leading statisticians of the CSO, recruit them under the propaganda ministry led by Rogán, and the promised single-digit inflation was already fulfilled the following month...! In 2023, the consumer price index was still 17.6% on average, and food inflation was 25.9%.- 700 billion forints spent by the government to buy the Vodafone Hungary and give it away to Orban's stooge (equivalent to about 280,000 years of average Hungarian pensions) - 2021 foreign human traffickers were released from Hungarian prisons in 2023 (official explaination: keeping them in prison is too expensive) - There are already 100,000 Asian migrant workers in Hungary, who are undercutting the wages of Hungarian workers, with their numbers increasing by about 1,000 a month - 40% of the Hungarian population run out of money by the end of the month, with no savings - The Hungarian birth count has fallen to an all-time low - OTP survey shows that 94 out of 100 young people do not want to work in Hungary ! - 125,000 Hungarians already work in Austria - Half a million Hungarians have disappeared in 10 years, the country's population is below 9.6 million, at 1953 levels and falling - In 2023 the budget deficit was 4593 billion forints , about 6.5 percent of GDP, more than double the 3 percent accepted by the EU, the Hungarian state paid the largest interest burden after the national debt in the EU to GDP (4.3%), the interest expenses amounted to HUF 3,500 billion, which is equivalent to 1.26 million years of Hungarian average pension, meanwile GDP growth rate was -0.9%. - In december, a new law was launched to silence critical media outlets and civil organizations! Just for those who look to Orban as a role model, you should know what to expect... No copyright!
@@peterbalogh8138 Oh, so that's why Hungary is now the poorest EU state per capita? Because calling out the incompetence of a dictator is "crying"? How much is Kremlin paying you to say this? I would say that they are overpaying you for how easily everyone sees through you.
I also want to point out he likes to obscure the truth and blame others for things that he personally is to blame for. I have read quite a few articles where he says the EU is stealing money from Hungary, when it's actually sanctions for trying to lead Hungary down an anti-democratic path. The kind of leader that places blame on others instead of taking responsibility shouldn't be a leader imo.
@@peterbalogh8138 1) The 10% real wage increase does nothing when the same wages fell by 15% last year, it still a -5%. 2) That real wage increase also does nothing while inflation eats away the value of the Forint by 10-15% per year. 3) That real wage increase doesn't mean anything when companies close because the economy is going to hell. If there is no place to work at the wage can be infinite it doesn't matter. You can't have child-family policies when everyone is poorer, you can't have a child if the economy is shit. Healthcare suck and Education is in absolute! People want to have children in Hungary but they cannot afford it, I know because *I AM ONE OF THEM.* So you can shut up now!
only dumb people think what u think ... if orban (i dont like him either ) but if orban leaves ...hungary is dead just like the rest of the former east block ... look at romania ..what the globalists done...poland tsjechaslowakia ..yugoslavia , ..bulgaria ..greece ..
@danielbagyula4394 what the hell are you talking about? KGBéla is in Moscow, why would Orban go to Moscow? Politically he is at an equal distance from Moscow and Bejing, lot closer to Washington. If he would need to flee the country he would probably go to somewhere in the US.
@@csat1078 Orban acts as an Russian asset for 15 years now. And he is not "closer to Washington" at all, he is just closer to Trump as a strongman to a fellow strongman. Besides, he turns his ideology-cloak as often as people change their underwear. In fact, he backstabbed more politicians from his own alliance than from his opposition side.
@@hancove4714Bruh there is nothing good about him. He is just signaling conservative values out to the word to gain popularity but ruins the whole country. The country is in ruins economically with no future
Do you think there's a reason for optimism, though? Unclear programme and a charismatic leader could mean victory, but that charismatic leader could turn out to be another crook.
@@hancove4714 He is a blatant thief who siphoned off EU and Hungarian funds for himself, his family members, and friends, while the country barely functions, with schools and hospitals in disrepair.
This is very true but, polls can be accurate and this is more likely especially after a party has outlived its welcome. In the UK the polling was pretty correct leading up to the recent election.
One small thing I would like to say that Fidesz did not only get a majority in every election, they won 2/3 of the seats, so they can change the constitution any time they want and they can always have a so-called "rendeleti kormányzás", meaning the government doesn't need the approval of the parliament, and can create laws similar to how an executive order works in the USA. Hungary has been in this state since the "migrant crisis", so for about 10 years.
@@Northex23 OH, don't worry, Orbán still blames everything on Soros, Gyurcsány (the former PM in... 2009), Brussels and lying liberals. Basically, "It's not true, but if it would be true, it was the fault of [insert scapegoat of the day here]"
"rendeleti kormányzás" means governing by decree Also we should note: however Fidesz really got 2/3, only because the voting system is deliberatly biased towards the winner: half of seats are given for individual candidates, so someone winning only by a single vote, wins 100% of votes... Fidesz never got more than ~50% of total votes...
As a Hungarian i don't think anybody who supports Orban is a believer of democracy and fairness. And it is possible many people outside from Hungary who likes right wing politic would possibly hate this government once they live here a bit longer and understand the system better
@@Сергій-м2л well if you only care for tomorrow and maybe day after tomorrow it may be fine. Otherwise Hungary is turning into Russia (which I'm sorry but is bad)
The weird thing is he started in 1986-87 as an extreme liberal illegal oppositional activist. With his buddies they founded the Fidesz party which was a little extremely anti-Russia and a extreme liberal party. Orbán was the vice president of the European Liberal International organization.
@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 ''Putin was a pro democracy liberal as well'' Was he..? He was recorded very early on saying that the fall of the Soviet Union was the worst thing that ever happened to Russia. I don't think anyone would credit this exKGB ghoul with being a liberal let alone pro democracy.
Looking at his most latest statement that there's no state money available to refurbish train stations it has to be given to subcontractors and that the Academy's property related assets will be sold soon, to me it's clear they see the end as well.
Some additional context about the pollsters: Since the middle of October (which is when the first individual poll came out showing Tisza ahead), there have been 19 polls released. Of these 19, 10 show a Fidesz advantage, 9 show a Tisza advantage - HOWEVER! Of the 10 polls that favor Fidesz, 9 were released by pollsters closely tied to Fidesz (6 of the 9 are explicitly financed by Fidesz, the other three have other close ties) The perhaps most reliable pollster, Medián, is measuring a significant Tisza advantage. So is 21 Kutatóközpont, who had the most accurate predictions for the Hungarian EU elections this year (with an average error of only 0.7% across all the parties). Even IDEA and Závecz, which have close ties to direct rivals of Tisza (other opposition parties), have had Tisza in front of Fidesz in all 3 of their polls in this period The main point being, that while the poll aggregator might show Fidesz and Tisza head to head, it's mostly because of the closely Fidesz-affiliated pollsters dragging that average down. If you look at the more independent polls, they show a significant Tisza advantage at this moment. I think that's important to point out
The pedophilia scandal was actually made worse with Novak's resignation. The president effectively became a figurehead and a ceremonial role under Orban, and her resignation felt like they are trying to sweep the issues under the rub. Which they did. The sad reality is that chronyism is a fertile ground for abusers, because loyalty takes priority over morals, which abusers can use to gain power. But to change that, the system must change.
What the video fails to mention, is why on Earth the president would pardon sex abuse at a children's home. Let's just say, that the man pardoned has close business ties to Orban's brother. Another interesting fact: The president is the ex-wife of Peter Magyar.
@@Zoli049 Did you know the word "Duke" came originally from latin "Dux," which was just a form of military leader? Names have power, they're totems. Even if you no longer fit the definition of a name, you still use that name to hold onto the residuals of that power. Getting rid of the name 'president' in a dictatorship might make people wake up and realize what their 'president' had been doing. Might. It didn't happen that way in Germany, when he changed the leadership name to 'Fuhrer.'
I can agree with most thimgs you said but there is 3 things you should have mentioned: 1. The hungarian electoral system can be won in the counstituencies which favors Fidesz, because there are more of them in rural areas. 2. Fidesz has a supermajority in parlament meaning they can do virtually they like with the constituton and other laws without any control. 3. The election will be held in the spring of 2026 and that is still considered far away. Ps: The pronounciation of hungarian names are still atrocious😂
Hungary has the lowest indices of consumption per capital of the EU. Despite the support received, Orban has managed to make his country one of the poorest in Europe. Hungarians need to get rid of him; he hasn’t and will not bring progress for the country.
That is a bunch of nonsense lies look at the state of Western Europe right now they are literally falling apart economically and the EU parliament doesn't even have warm water in their bathrooms for 5 years and even got caught in a corruption scandal with Qatar and you want to criticise Hungary what a bunch of hypocrisy.
@@kompatybilijny9348 That's a lie, you have no evidence for it. There are other countries in the EU who are literally worse off economically than Hungary.
He's not going to get replaced but I think a lot of Hungarians, myself included, are hoping he loses his 2/3 majority which would ensure that FIDESZ can't just pass anything they want.
@@fjkelley4774 He started as "reforming" state/tax money into party/family economical power :D E.g.: Misuse of public office in 1990 aka "Fidesz Party HQ Scandal". So they were not clean and honest at the start either.
except zero goddamn polls had Fidesz losing in the last 18 years (yes, years of the other's rule was spent with a Fidesz polling majority already) it don't matter how many clickbait stuff you've seen before, this is actually a new situation
Hungarian here. Well we've had opposition alliances that ran against Orbán but even in 2022 people knew that the 6 party opposition alliance basically hated each other. There never was one big party against Fidesz since 2010.
As a Hungarian myself I would like to apologise in the name of my fellow citizens who couldn’t help themselves and left some primitive comments below this video. As shocking as it sounds, the loud ones aren’t the sharpest knives. But don’t worry, there’s plenty of us who are observing the unfolding events from the background, some of us quietly working towards a better future.
Bless you for being out there and continuing to work for a better Hungary - I've been feeling quite negative towards Hungary and its people recently, because of Orban shenanigans on the EU and international scene, so it gladdens me greatly to see that there are still decent people in Hungary who doesn't support Orbán.
All the best in your endeavours, my friend. Hungary needs to be allowed to become the country the ordinary folk want, not just what one man and his cabal of ghouls want.
Thank you for your comments! I myself still prefer to have a dialogue about these issues. It is very said to see, that most people leash out because their are blinded by their preconceptions. It is so said to see that a small nation like us is so divided.
@@attilagyorffy you sure do feel like you’re better than everyone else. We have heard this tune before, you are not really working for a better future, just a better future for yourself, you being a member of the leftwing elite. Orban was chosen by the people, until the people choose a different leader. Until then, you are welcomed to leave emphatic comments about you being better than everyone else. It makes you feel good to write these things so go ahead.
@@danielbuckler7906 You mean 300 people or something? I can tell you from experience (I'm Polish) that if the government wouldn't want to make a political issue out of it, oone would even know there were any refugees around simply because of how inconsequential their numbers were. But instead of that, they diecided to make a big issue out of it and in effect, forfeited chances to get more money to house Ukrainian refugess. Marvelous incompetence from PiS, marvelous incompetence from Orban. As usual.
@@danielbuckler7906 The right is always trying to mix up illegal immigrants with refugees. THEY AREN'T THE SAME!!! Refugees are legal immigrants as well
So, what is it that Putin has offered Orbán to persuade him to undermine the consensus on supporting Ukraine..? What would be necessary to make you be willing to sell Europe down the river...'
As a Hungarian I really like how you've represented the case. The situation is not straight forward and you've pretty muched summed it up without leaning to any side - you can count on my views on all the other news reports as well. :)
While Orbán is certainly not the kind of leader we need, as a Romanian, I must give him credit for spearheading a Schengen deal involving Romania, Bulgaria, and Austria. While most other EU countries were content to treat us as second-class citizens, Hungary’s rotating presidency of the EU ensured they upheld their promise and turned it into a guarantee.
You should thank Austria. Without their vote, Orban could've done NOTHING. It was NOT his actions that got you into the deal, quite the opposite, you should be thankful Austria didn't decide to abstain just to sabotage his effort.
As a Hungarian here: The Domestic polling market is very biased politically. A small market with a huge govermental (basically FIDESZ) influence on it are mostly the reason behind it. Hence, trends of polls (from the same or similar pollsters) are more important than differences in the global aggregate of polls. Based on trends, we can definitely say that all governmental and each opposition poll support the idea that Magyar Péter has swallowed the incumbent opposition in whole. We also can see that he has been gaining ground until like two weeks ago. Since then, governmental Polls try to paint the image of his momentum ending, and oppositional polls are not yet up to date. We have a very intense mediaenvironment with a very high-pressure and very early campaign. A lot can change in two weeks even. What is certain, that a challenger has emerged, we are yet to see if he is able to break through the glass ceiling hanging above the previous opposition.
I am writing as a Hungarian living in Lithuania. Péter Magyar is not necessarily popular at home. The majority is fed up with Viktor Orbán and his system. Your summary was accurate, thank you on behalf of "normal" Hungarians.👍
I'm a queer Hungarian and while I don't agree with Péter Magyar politically, I'll vote for him in 2026 because at this point everything (except Mi Hazánk Mozgalom/Our Homeland Movement) is better than Fidesz
Tisza is basically a single issue movement based on anti-corruption. A majority of their voters were Fidesz voters at the last election who are sick of corruption. Either Tisza will supplant Fidesz or Fidesz will dismantle the corruption machine. But it's still largely culturally Fidesz. Euroskepticism and Christian moral values still hold very strong places in the voting base of Tisza
while former fidesz voters are significant, most tisza voters voted for the united opposition in 2022 so if tisza wants to keep those voters, they'll need to be more center and progressive
The so-called left-wing opposition parties has proved many times that they are not able to join their forces and build and promote one strong candidate in each district so despite Magyar is coming from the right-wing, many disillusioned left-voters support him. I don't think that many former Fidesz supporters are sick of corruption. They were turning blind eyes on corruption for decades.
@@Freerogueboss3They won't, Péter Magyar has worked closely with Orbán's government until 2022 and agrees with them for the most part. On the other hand, if he gets voted out for good Hungary might even see some improvements in living standards. And I hope he must hand over his palace he built in the middle of nothing, and all the lands and mining assets he stole so far bwahhaha... Oh yeah and we might get to know what happened with all the private pensions people paid that he „regrouped for economic efficiency issues“ back in 2011, and all the documents about socialist state secret service agents and all the treaties with Russia that he declared „top secret until 2050“... Oh and we might also get to know why so many of their very Christians members commit, well... inappropriate conduct against peoples of all ages and genders
A Hungarian here. Orbán has survived quite a few such slumps - and usually came out even stronger at the end somehow... Sadly, he is not stupid, and his crew knows precisely how to retain power and never really get near a scenario where the legitimacy of his leadership could be questioned. Frankly, I don't see a force or person who could threaten him. No charismatic leader on the other side, no viable alternative concept... Orbán knows very well who his voter base is, and only concentrates on keeping them - which is relatively easy having the control over the state media, which is still the primary source of information for his base (mainly the non-urban middle-aged and older voter). I wish I was wrong about this, but I don't see anything that would suggest his power is in any kind of danger, poll numbers notwithstanding. For his voter base he is not simply the prime minister, but a hero who's successfully and continuously kept Hungary safe from outside threats - mainly the EU (yes, the prime minister of an EU member country doing everything he can to make "Brussel" seem like the Evil Empire in his voters eyes... go figure.)
Miről beszélsz? Eddig minden politikai botránynál mentegetőzni lehetett azzal, hogy legalább a gazdaság fejlődik. Elértünk egy olyan pontot hogy hónapról hónapra rosszabbul él az átlag ember, ilyenkor már kevésbé hat a propaganda
@@85szabolcs I’ll say this, if the opposition is mostly about being anti-Orban and being very pro-EU, I don’t think they have the actual power to topple a politician who seems to know his fellow Hungarian kin. Any who don’t know their own people on a personal level are unlikely to win elections. What’re your thoughts folks?
its a good thing that its in 2026. Péter Magyar's party is still relatively unorganized, they don't even have candidates yet, just him. We need time to organize the party and field our 106 candidates
It is only important for people actually following politics. 95% does not know any names outside of the main guy. I hope you are right, but there is a real chance by 2026 that Hungary goes full-blown dictatorship. They are really not that far from it right now. And with Trump in the white house, Putin isn't going anywhere soon...
Problem is Hungary is not a democracy anymore-we still have elections but they are far from democratic (they are not free and fair AT ALL, and manipulation is rampant). Everybody waiting for an opposition party to win the Hungarian election is basically waiting for someone to win a game of chess where the opponent wrote the rule book and has the right to change those very rules any way he wants, whenever he wants. It's pretty much hopeless.
@@elesvazul you sound just like the average American leftie wishing trump went to prison. Keep wishing, this is the will of the people in action and finally some accountability for the left wing elites that have created the current situation. I guess accountability is hard to face when you’re not used to it and the socialists never take accountability for anything.
@@peterbalogh8138 And you are still living 14 years on the past grandpa while the rest of the world moved on from that! Time to wake up and stop being a sheep!
Also, it is important to say, that Tisza's lead is bigger than on the aggregated polls. That slight slump in Tisza's popularity at the end of the poll is because during the last week, Fidesz funded organizations came out with the most random polls, saying Fidesz is leading with 10%. These are completely biased and only serve to counter the actual, non-government funded polls
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Fun fact: Orbán won in 2010 with 2/3rds constitutional seats, then he changed the electoral law in such a way, that he'd have won with the 2006 results also. And every other 2/3 result since 2010 is only won with this new electoral law, that "compensates" the winner (!), and has districts with 30% disparity of number of voters (which should be under 10% as per the law.)
@@Blanka1100 Kaczyński and his nasty droogs were not pro Russian, or not obviously. Orbán appears quite happy to sell Ukraine (and Europe) down the drain to Sauron. To take the Lord of the Ring analogy further (necessary to avoid RUclips's censorship) Orbán is Saruman....!
This reminds me of when the “pro family values” Australian Deputy PM was caught having an extramarital affair. There were jokes being made that “Barnaby loves family values so much he wanted to have two”.
I'm Hungarian and I'm glad, that TLDR realized, what is the current situation in Hungary. I'll most likely vote for Tisza Party on the 2026 elections. Not because I support them, but because they are a real and solid opposition towards Orban, unlike other opposition parties. Most Hungarians are against Orban's government and he will soon meet his downfall.
@@rgabi11 Maybe, but you need to realize, that Tisza is currently the only opposition party capable of defeating Orban's corrupt system. An uncertain solution is still better, than voting for Orban, who brings nothing, but destruction to Hungary for 14 years.
@ You need to realize that it would have catastrophic effects on Hungary. Just look at Germany and France. Soon there will be more black than white people. And their economies are in deep trouble.
As a native Hungarian who moved to the West recently, Peter has no chance of winning. If MZP failed, Peter will too. As a person who worked for a government supported environment, most of you and my fellow Hungarians have no idea what's going on behind closed doors. FIDESZ built a system that will stay around for a very, very long time. Whether Orban gives up the power to another FIDESZ member or not doesn't matter much, it might be worse if Janos Lazar would be the PM for example. Hungarians on average are rather simple, low-trust and corrupt (not to mention the right-leaning views and overall bigotry). As long as the voters outside of Budapest keep voting for FIDESZ, you can't do anything.
Unfortunately the voters outside of Budapest keep voting for fidesz because the opposition parties don't do their homework: They fail to build up strong candidates in 4/8/12 years. I am an opposition voter but seriously I don't know who the main opposition parties will promote in my district in 2026. They should already have a few well-known and trusted candidates in each district but they keep on fighting with each other until the last minute. Voting for the opposition was hard: who do you trust? LMP? DK? MSZP? MKKP? Even if you trust one of these parties, do you trust their candidate? Even if you trust their candidate you can't know which one of them will be made to step back. Now it is easier with Tisza: Magyar is more popular than all the others which means more chance than waiting for the other opposition parties to make a successful join of forces (which they failed at 3 times already).
A couple years ago I would've still been on fidesz' side, but lately it clearly shows they've been at the helm for too long, and having power corrupts people. I want to see them gone, and see something new, got tired of their rethoric.
He'll TRY, but I dont think it will work. You can't blame economic issues like these on minorities. Aside from his most die-hard fans and complete idiots, nobody is going to buy that, say, LGBT people are causing mass inflation.
There is a lesson here that you guys obviously cannot report on. That the previous opposition likely was paid by Orbán, because they were so inefficient in everything they did and often their actions resulted in Orbán coming out better, event though they could have foreseen the outcomes... and I haven't even mentioned some of their shared business dealings and local agreements.
Don't for a second think that the governance spendings of Orbán led to profitable long term investments. Most of the governance spending went to friends and family. Corruption has been accelerated to a new level.
I think you don't talk enough about the corruption and bribes used to keep him in power, which is frankly, more important than most of the content in this video.
We can only hope, If Orban is to lose this time then Hungary can finally pop champagne and fireworks and actually participate with EU instead of being a petty old EU fund beggar. This is in the end about Hungarians that are getting the ass end of Orbans policies.
Small correction here: Tisza - TEE - SA FIDESZ - FI-DES Závecz - ZAA - VETS Although your understanding on what 'opposition' means, the video is fairly correct. Thanks!
@@Freerogueboss3 first of all, he is running the country into the dirt, so as a Hungarian I will not tolerate any foreigner telling me how good he is. Second, I don't think you have an understanding of Hungary and Hungarians. Even the most liberal leftist party would be considered far-right in an actual liberal country, and no one would vote for them in Hungary. Also, Orban is currently bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants from asia. Magyar Peter and Tisza party represents the same conservative values, but without all the corruption and anti-democratic stuff.
As a hungarian the decline started about a year ago. Btw if u want to see some desperate atempt from Orbán's party infront of an orphanage, where their communications director acted like your least favourite drunken at the local bar
They are clearly nationalist/patriotic but at the same time regarding some topics they were more leftist than the officially "leftist" parties :D These labels don't mean too much here but if we insist on using them then Jobbik would be "conservative" in the sense of conserving national traditions and values while Fidesz is "conservative" as conserving their power in a quasi(?)-feudal system.
As someone who's from Hungary, I see that all the hopes of the democratic opposition currently rest solely on Péter Magyar - hoping there will ever be any change in the country. I observe that there are many of us who would like to change, but unfortunately, there are still a lot of people (mainly from rural areas, those with less education and the pensioners) who continue to idolize Viktor Orbán and will vote for Fidesz under any circumstances. The worse the country's economic situation, the more people vote for Fidesz. Even though most public opinion polls currently show an advantage for the Tisza Párt, it must be acknowledged that Fidesz has been governing the country with a constitutional majority since 2010 (with a few exceptions for brief periods) and has used this power - among others - to reshape the electoral law to suit its own interests. Recently, they have even taken two constituencies away from the predominantly opposition-supporting Budapest, and I am sure that by the spring of 2026, they will do everything in their power to keep their current state secure. Another challenge for Tisza is that the party currently has only around 20 members, and it still feels very much like Péter Magyar’s one-man show. While they are actively looking for future leaders, one of their key criteria is that only those who have never served under any previous Hungarian government can join them. This is an attempt to build a relatively new team of fresh faces with clean records. I sincerely hope they succeed, but it is important to remember that the majority of people do not get their information from independent sources, and the disgusting propaganda disseminated by the government has already reached unimaginable depths. Unfortunately, it is likely to get even worse in the next 1.5 years.
The same old.... Fidesz in 2022 had massive majority in ALL social strata. This is the typical self-delusional condescending attitude towards the opponent. Never worked, and never will. As if people did not have access to Internet, or could read foreign papers and news, on what the EU has become through its idiotic laws, self-destructing economy, woke ideology and all the rest that make people rush to vote for Orban against THIS madness.
As a Hungarian, all I can say with certainty is that whatever Magyar Péter started can't be stopped anymore It's possible they won't win the election or if they do, they will fail after a few months, but they made a lot of people realise it's possible to make Hungary a solid place to live I think it's safe to say that a lot of us young adults, thought the system was too large to fail and there is not much we can do anymore
Yea, if you want somebody who tapped his own wife (and also later his girlfriend), wanted to blackmail her while physically abusing her, threatened his own kids to chuck them under guardianship, rob phone in a disco.... surely, the signs of healthy mind and moral.
@@peterbalogh8138 All these sound ridiculous next to Orban's crimes. He impoverished an entire country, not just broke a phone. Do you read yourself? How does it even matter? And he never abused his wife. You can repeat that until you turn blue, it's still a lie. Even his wife denies abuse. I can't believe you still have the nerve to compare the 2 men.
Look man. As a Hungarian, I can only see that my wage is getting less and less enough. I can save less, I can consume less. Sane or not, I am not convinced that Fidesz is the right direction. I want to try something new.
While the general picture is correct it is sad to see how dishonest TLDR is when cherry picking data sources for polls, real wages etc just to acheive a more gloomy image of Hungarys’ and Fidesz performance than the reality. Makes me doubt your other productions too unfortunately, leading to an un-subscribe.
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At 04:30, I would like to remind all at TL;DR - barring the case of unavailable data - Croatia is, also, a part of EU(rope).
Wow!! you DON'T get it! The 'provocations' come FROM the EU. Educate yourself before making these videos.
Look ma', a comedian.
@@marcokite C'mon. Why are you so arrogant? Why don't YOU educate yourself instead?
@@cbs1710 This channel is a joke Gen Z trying to explain the world to us haha
I’ll believe it when I see it
You took the words out of my mouth. I swer we should have kicked Hungary out of the EU since last election. Hungarians, save your country before we have to save ourself from you.
I'm not sure I would believe it even then...
Same predictions over and over again...
Soon.
Liberal bullshit! Majority of hungarians still vote for Orban. Tisza is just another "all liberals come together" wannabe wish. Tisza already declared support of lmbtq and other liberal ideologies.
It's funny how Peter Magyar's name literally means Peter the Hungarian
john Hungary can never beat the great naval commander Horthy, his fleet is too strong.
@thatrandomguyontheinternet2477 Naval Admiral in a country without sea
it's even funnier the one millionth time
Iconic and symbolic
@@gnorbi951 And Regent in Kingdom without a King.
Did Orban eat all those taxes up during his rule. He looked thin in the intro😅
his family surely did, all became billionaires
@@Dralisz They didn't. It isn't true.
@@stomeka sure sure, then go read about István Tiborcz , he is one of the most wealthy person, if not the most in whole Hungary with his young age.
@@Dralisz and Orbán's son-in-law
@@stomeka your the type of person to say that there is no oligarchy or corruption in Hungary 😂
Small correction. Orbáns rein didn't start in 2010. His first therm was 1998 - 2002, than there was an other governing party, that was very bad, and he won every election since 2010 till now.
Yeah, he ruled for 19 years from the 35 years since 1990... still he is blaming the other Hungarian governments from the past for everything...
"won" every election :) (sponsored by Putler)
@@MickeyStartravellerI think he actually won most of them :(
This exactly reflects Poland's PiS party stats. We took back our country from the PiS autocrats, Hungarians have it in them as well:)
@@123_1 that reminds me of the traditionnal right in France that practically ruled France non stop since after WW2 (RPF, UDR, UPR, UMP, LR) but when in the rare cases of opposition (PS for 2 different mandate seperated by 30 years. Or LREM from Macron with its last 2 mandates) They act as if they have nothing to do with the current state of France and explain how if they get the power, everything will be perfect in the country.
Georgian here, Polls mean nothing. Expect full force of buying voters/rigging/manipulating/propaganda during election day, that will affect 15-20%. The only thing that can save Hungary is court and justice system, as long as it's independent of government.
Hungarian here: The court and justice system has not been independent de facto for a long time. Yes, there are some sentences supporting law and reason, but the real big money laundry always escapes. At the present even there is a migration of judges leaving the court for advocate positions because they are fed up with the government's indirect but strong control over them. The only thing that can save Hungary is an external, most likely financial force halting the self-maintenance of the Orbán regime. At the moment I do not see any way to persuade his voters. They are blind.
@@neeeeeck9005
You mean dependent from EU?
Which it is not...
@@neeeeeck9005
Save from what?
We already experiencing the manipulation. Uneducated, poverty stricken villages are either payed or threatened to vote for Orban. It's not new. I'm worried that he wont go peacefully when the time comes, but mobilises his army.
He is a criminal after all, we can't expect fair play.
2023 in Hungary:
- In January, bread inflation was almost 82%, food inflation was over 48%, general inflation was 26.2%, three times the EU average!
- In the first quarter, real wages fell the most in Hungary with a 15.6%, which is 4 times of OECD average
- In July our money lost 36% of its value in 2 years due to inflation !!!
- In January, Lőrinc Mészáros, Orban's main strawman (a former plumber) increased the monthly tolls by 72% after he bought the 35-year motorway concession
- Lőrinc Mészáros bought a yacht for 27 billion forints, which is almost 11,000 years of average Hungarian pension. Mészáros's wealth increased by 50%, 330 billion forints in a single year
- The Matolcsy, the head of central bank (MNB), bought an apartment in New York for 14 billion forints, which is equivalent to 5608 years of average Hungarian pensions. Meanwhile, the MNB has accumulated losses of HUF 2400 billion
- The Orbán family's visible! wealth reaches HUF 100 billion, Orbán's father built a mansion in Hatvanpuszta for 10 billion forints
- The cows on János Lázár minister's stud farm got waterbeds for HUF 3 billion from the state!
- In 2023, Romania overtook Hungary in GDP per capita,
- In 2023, Bulgaria overtook Hungary in per capita consumption, making Hungary the poorest member of EU.
- Hungary has the 2nd lowest average wage and minimum wage in the EU !
- The Dear Leader has finally found the miracle weapon against inflation: all you had to do was fire the leading statisticians of the CSO, recruit them under the propaganda ministry led by Rogán, and the promised single-digit inflation was already fulfilled the following month...! In 2023, the consumer price index was still 17.6% on average, and food inflation was 25.9%.- 700 billion forints spent by the government to buy the Vodafone Hungary and give it away to Orban's stooge (equivalent to about 280,000 years of average Hungarian pensions)
- 2021 foreign human traffickers were released from Hungarian prisons in 2023 (official explaination: keeping them in prison is too expensive)
- There are already 100,000 Asian migrant workers in Hungary, who are undercutting the wages of Hungarian workers, with their numbers increasing by about 1,000 a month
- 40% of the Hungarian population run out of money by the end of the month, with no savings
- The Hungarian birth count has fallen to an all-time low
- OTP survey shows that 94 out of 100 young people do not want to work in Hungary !
- 125,000 Hungarians already work in Austria
- Half a million Hungarians have disappeared in 10 years, the country's population is below 9.6 million, at 1953 levels and falling
- In 2023 the budget deficit was 4593 billion forints , about 6.5 percent of GDP, more than double the 3 percent accepted by the EU, the Hungarian state paid the largest interest burden after the national debt in the EU to GDP (4.3%), the interest expenses amounted to HUF 3,500 billion, which is equivalent to 1.26 million years of Hungarian average pension, meanwile GDP growth rate was -0.9%.
- In december, a new law was launched to silence critical media outlets and civil organizations!
Just for those who look to Orban as a role model, you should know what to expect...
No copyright!
@@peterbalogh8138 Oh, so that's why Hungary is now the poorest EU state per capita? Because calling out the incompetence of a dictator is "crying"? How much is Kremlin paying you to say this? I would say that they are overpaying you for how easily everyone sees through you.
@@peterbalogh8138 hallod tesi, mennyit kapsz a bérkommentelgetésért? Szervezz már be engem is, csóró bölcsész vagyok kell a pénz
@@peterbalogh8138 szóval az, hogy 3 nem annyira fontos dolog jobb nem jelenti azt, hogy a maradék 97 elcseszett dolog eltűnik
I also want to point out he likes to obscure the truth and blame others for things that he personally is to blame for. I have read quite a few articles where he says the EU is stealing money from Hungary, when it's actually sanctions for trying to lead Hungary down an anti-democratic path.
The kind of leader that places blame on others instead of taking responsibility shouldn't be a leader imo.
@@peterbalogh8138
1) The 10% real wage increase does nothing when the same wages fell by 15% last year, it still a -5%.
2) That real wage increase also does nothing while inflation eats away the value of the Forint by 10-15% per year.
3) That real wage increase doesn't mean anything when companies close because the economy is going to hell. If there is no place to work at the wage can be infinite it doesn't matter.
You can't have child-family policies when everyone is poorer, you can't have a child if the economy is shit. Healthcare suck and Education is in absolute! People want to have children in Hungary but they cannot afford it, I know because *I AM ONE OF THEM.* So you can shut up now!
As a Hungarian, I am just waiting for the time when Orbán has to flee to Moscow too and we can return to rebuild Hungary.
He can take PiS and (especially) Konfederacja with him.
only dumb people think what u think ... if orban (i dont like him either ) but if orban leaves ...hungary is dead just like the rest of the former east block ... look at romania ..what the globalists done...poland tsjechaslowakia ..yugoslavia , ..bulgaria ..greece ..
@danielbagyula4394 what the hell are you talking about? KGBéla is in Moscow, why would Orban go to Moscow? Politically he is at an equal distance from Moscow and Bejing, lot closer to Washington. If he would need to flee the country he would probably go to somewhere in the US.
@@csat1078 Orban acts as an Russian asset for 15 years now. And he is not "closer to Washington" at all, he is just closer to Trump as a strongman to a fellow strongman. Besides, he turns his ideology-cloak as often as people change their underwear. In fact, he backstabbed more politicians from his own alliance than from his opposition side.
love u guys from Romania
As a Hungarian I sure as shit hope so...
Why? Genuine question, what do you don't like about him?
@@hancove4714Bruh there is nothing good about him. He is just signaling conservative values out to the word to gain popularity but ruins the whole country.
The country is in ruins economically with no future
Do you think there's a reason for optimism, though? Unclear programme and a charismatic leader could mean victory, but that charismatic leader could turn out to be another crook.
@@vaclav_fejt yes there is, the new leader has more morales
@@hancove4714 He is a blatant thief who siphoned off EU and Hungarian funds for himself, his family members, and friends, while the country barely functions, with schools and hospitals in disrepair.
*sigh* Don't make me tap the sign again:
"Polls don't matter, votes do."
This is very true but, polls can be accurate and this is more likely especially after a party has outlived its welcome. In the UK the polling was pretty correct leading up to the recent election.
I love the Simpsons reference 😂
polls are a good indication of a rigged election
One small thing I would like to say that Fidesz did not only get a majority in every election, they won 2/3 of the seats, so they can change the constitution any time they want and they can always have a so-called "rendeleti kormányzás", meaning the government doesn't need the approval of the parliament, and can create laws similar to how an executive order works in the USA. Hungary has been in this state since the "migrant crisis", so for about 10 years.
The thing with having all the power is that you get all the blame when times become tough.
@@Northex23 OH, don't worry, Orbán still blames everything on Soros, Gyurcsány (the former PM in... 2009), Brussels and lying liberals.
Basically, "It's not true, but if it would be true, it was the fault of [insert scapegoat of the day here]"
@@Northex23 well actually the govorment could just swift the blame on others like the EU...
Are you Hungarian?
"rendeleti kormányzás" means governing by decree
Also we should note: however Fidesz really got 2/3, only because the voting system is deliberatly biased towards the winner: half of seats are given for individual candidates, so someone winning only by a single vote, wins 100% of votes...
Fidesz never got more than ~50% of total votes...
As a Hungarian i don't think anybody who supports Orban is a believer of democracy and fairness. And it is possible many people outside from Hungary who likes right wing politic would possibly hate this government once they live here a bit longer and understand the system better
It’s even more simple: conservatives care way more about their feelings of disgust and insecurity than anything else.
я тут живу 3 роки, все добре
@@Сергій-м2л maybe it fine compared to where you have come from, but by EUropean standards Hungary is in a terrible state.
@@Сергій-м2л well if you only care for tomorrow and maybe day after tomorrow it may be fine. Otherwise Hungary is turning into Russia (which I'm sorry but is bad)
@@Сергій-м2л You don’t know anything about the country, kid.
The weird thing is he started in 1986-87 as an extreme liberal illegal oppositional activist. With his buddies they founded the Fidesz party which was a little extremely anti-Russia and a extreme liberal party. Orbán was the vice president of the European Liberal International organization.
people change. Both Mussolini and Hitler started as socialists, Hillary Clinton used to be a Republican activist in the 1960s.
@@JSK010 Hitler wasn´t a socialist and Hillary never stopped being a Republican really haha
@@JSK010Mussolini and Hitler never stopped being socialists. They just weren't the international types that became the mainstream.
@@JSK010Putin was a pro democracy liberal as well
@myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 ''Putin was a pro democracy liberal as well'' Was he..? He was recorded very early on saying that the fall of the Soviet Union was the worst thing that ever happened to Russia. I don't think anyone would credit this exKGB ghoul with being a liberal let alone pro democracy.
Looking at his most latest statement that there's no state money available to refurbish train stations it has to be given to subcontractors and that the Academy's property related assets will be sold soon, to me it's clear they see the end as well.
Some additional context about the pollsters:
Since the middle of October (which is when the first individual poll came out showing Tisza ahead), there have been 19 polls released. Of these 19, 10 show a Fidesz advantage, 9 show a Tisza advantage - HOWEVER! Of the 10 polls that favor Fidesz, 9 were released by pollsters closely tied to Fidesz (6 of the 9 are explicitly financed by Fidesz, the other three have other close ties)
The perhaps most reliable pollster, Medián, is measuring a significant Tisza advantage. So is 21 Kutatóközpont, who had the most accurate predictions for the Hungarian EU elections this year (with an average error of only 0.7% across all the parties). Even IDEA and Závecz, which have close ties to direct rivals of Tisza (other opposition parties), have had Tisza in front of Fidesz in all 3 of their polls in this period
The main point being, that while the poll aggregator might show Fidesz and Tisza head to head, it's mostly because of the closely Fidesz-affiliated pollsters dragging that average down. If you look at the more independent polls, they show a significant Tisza advantage at this moment. I think that's important to point out
The pedophilia scandal was actually made worse with Novak's resignation. The president effectively became a figurehead and a ceremonial role under Orban, and her resignation felt like they are trying to sweep the issues under the rub. Which they did. The sad reality is that chronyism is a fertile ground for abusers, because loyalty takes priority over morals, which abusers can use to gain power. But to change that, the system must change.
What the video fails to mention, is why on Earth the president would pardon sex abuse at a children's home. Let's just say, that the man pardoned has close business ties to Orban's brother.
Another interesting fact: The president is the ex-wife of Peter Magyar.
This was my country. Where there is no longer a republic, why have a president?
@@Zoli049 Did you know the word "Duke" came originally from latin "Dux," which was just a form of military leader?
Names have power, they're totems. Even if you no longer fit the definition of a name, you still use that name to hold onto the residuals of that power.
Getting rid of the name 'president' in a dictatorship might make people wake up and realize what their 'president' had been doing.
Might. It didn't happen that way in Germany, when he changed the leadership name to 'Fuhrer.'
I can agree with most thimgs you said but there is 3 things you should have mentioned:
1. The hungarian electoral system can be won in the counstituencies which favors Fidesz, because there are more of them in rural areas.
2. Fidesz has a supermajority in parlament meaning they can do virtually they like with the constituton and other laws without any control.
3. The election will be held in the spring of 2026 and that is still considered far away.
Ps: The pronounciation of hungarian names are still atrocious😂
I was thinking he did a lot better with the pronunciation this time. But I stand corrected (-:
The pronounciation is not very bad, you cannot rationally expect more from a non speaker...
the pronounciation is not that bad from a non-speaker
Yeah his pronunciation is not perfect.. just like your English 🙄
Hungarian is an atrocious language 😂
Hungary has the lowest indices of consumption per capital of the EU. Despite the support received, Orban has managed to make his country one of the poorest in Europe. Hungarians need to get rid of him; he hasn’t and will not bring progress for the country.
That is a bunch of nonsense lies look at the state of Western Europe right now they are literally falling apart economically and the EU parliament doesn't even have warm water in their bathrooms for 5 years and even got caught in a corruption scandal with Qatar and you want to criticise Hungary what a bunch of hypocrisy.
Not "one of the poorest" - THE poorest nation in EU per capita.
@@kompatybilijny9348 That's a lie, you have no evidence for it. There are other countries in the EU who are literally worse off economically than Hungary.
@@theuralictribes5689 examples?
@@theuralictribes5689hungarian here: you are wrong, hungary is the poorest country in the eu.
I’ve heard crime minister instead of prime minister in the beginning, ooops
How Freudian of you.
@@sogerc1 as a hungarian I could even back it up haha
that's precisely what he is!
He's not going to get replaced but I think a lot of Hungarians, myself included, are hoping he loses his 2/3 majority which would ensure that FIDESZ can't just pass anything they want.
Didn't Orbán start as a "reformer"?
@fjkelley4774 Yes he did. The money and power went to his head and he's turned into the very thing he swore to destroy.
If he wins, there is no way he loses 2/3 majority. Why else did they do all the gerrymandering and still do it?
@@fjkelley4774 He started as "reforming" state/tax money into party/family economical power :D E.g.: Misuse of public office in 1990 aka "Fidesz Party HQ Scandal". So they were not clean and honest at the start either.
As a Hungarian-American, I am part of the MOGA movement:
MAKE ORBÁN GO AWAY!
❤❤❤❤❤thanks
Lol good one 🤣🤣
This is about the third "beginning of the end" for Orban that I remember.
except zero goddamn polls had Fidesz losing in the last 18 years (yes, years of the other's rule was spent with a Fidesz polling majority already)
it don't matter how many clickbait stuff you've seen before, this is actually a new situation
Hungarian here. Well we've had opposition alliances that ran against Orbán but even in 2022 people knew that the 6 party opposition alliance basically hated each other. There never was one big party against Fidesz since 2010.
Ngl as a hungarian this is by far the strongest opponent Orbán had. Tisza is a party that went from 0 to 40% in 9 months. A massive achievement
Yeah....
Orban: coughs.
Next day :TLDR-EU : " the end of Orban is imminent!"
Orban for Prison 2025
*2026
100%
2025 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I sure hope it is!!
-A Hungarian guy, before he started watching this video.
As a Hungarian myself I would like to apologise in the name of my fellow citizens who couldn’t help themselves and left some primitive comments below this video. As shocking as it sounds, the loud ones aren’t the sharpest knives. But don’t worry, there’s plenty of us who are observing the unfolding events from the background, some of us quietly working towards a better future.
Bless you for being out there and continuing to work for a better Hungary - I've been feeling quite negative towards Hungary and its people recently, because of Orban shenanigans on the EU and international scene, so it gladdens me greatly to see that there are still decent people in Hungary who doesn't support Orbán.
All the best in your endeavours, my friend. Hungary needs to be allowed to become the country the ordinary folk want, not just what one man and his cabal of ghouls want.
Those are paid users from the russian troll farms. Your average fidesz voter doesn't speak English
Thank you for your comments! I myself still prefer to have a dialogue about these issues. It is very said to see, that most people leash out because their are blinded by their preconceptions. It is so said to see that a small nation like us is so divided.
@@attilagyorffy you sure do feel like you’re better than everyone else. We have heard this tune before, you are not really working for a better future, just a better future for yourself, you being a member of the leftwing elite. Orban was chosen by the people, until the people choose a different leader. Until then, you are welcomed to leave emphatic comments about you being better than everyone else. It makes you feel good to write these things so go ahead.
Yes please... I'm sick of having these autocrats throwing a span in the works every time EU has anything to do with how to handle Russia >_
What about when the EU wants Hungary to take their "fair share" of illegal immigrants?
@@danielbuckler7906 You mean 300 people or something? I can tell you from experience (I'm Polish) that if the government wouldn't want to make a political issue out of it, oone would even know there were any refugees around simply because of how inconsequential their numbers were. But instead of that, they diecided to make a big issue out of it and in effect, forfeited chances to get more money to house Ukrainian refugess. Marvelous incompetence from PiS, marvelous incompetence from Orban. As usual.
@@danielbuckler7906 The right is always trying to mix up illegal immigrants with refugees. THEY AREN'T THE SAME!!! Refugees are legal immigrants as well
So, what is it that Putin has offered Orbán to persuade him to undermine the consensus on supporting Ukraine..? What would be necessary to make you be willing to sell Europe down the river...'
Gazprom selled the gas personally to Orban for Hungary. How not to be an influencer?
I believe he's gone, when he's gone and not a moment sooner. Orban sticks to power like glue
You absolutely right ❤❤❤❤
As a Hungarian I really like how you've represented the case. The situation is not straight forward and you've pretty muched summed it up without leaning to any side - you can count on my views on all the other news reports as well. :)
While Orbán is certainly not the kind of leader we need, as a Romanian, I must give him credit for spearheading a Schengen deal involving Romania, Bulgaria, and Austria. While most other EU countries were content to treat us as second-class citizens, Hungary’s rotating presidency of the EU ensured they upheld their promise and turned it into a guarantee.
Yeah. Even as a hungarian who hates his guts thats true.
But… nepotism.. = corruption = slow progress
You should thank Austria. Without their vote, Orban could've done NOTHING. It was NOT his actions that got you into the deal, quite the opposite, you should be thankful Austria didn't decide to abstain just to sabotage his effort.
You do realize he did this solely for the Hungarian minority in Romania, right?
@@manana1444 HE did nothing. He could not. It was AUSTRIA whose vote was missing.
For the sake of Hungary and the EU, I very much hope that it is the end for him.
As a Hungarian here:
The Domestic polling market is very biased politically. A small market with a huge govermental (basically FIDESZ) influence on it are mostly the reason behind it.
Hence, trends of polls (from the same or similar pollsters) are more important than differences in the global aggregate of polls. Based on trends, we can definitely say that all governmental and each opposition poll support the idea that Magyar Péter has swallowed the incumbent opposition in whole. We also can see that he has been gaining ground until like two weeks ago. Since then, governmental Polls try to paint the image of his momentum ending, and oppositional polls are not yet up to date.
We have a very intense mediaenvironment with a very high-pressure and very early campaign. A lot can change in two weeks even.
What is certain, that a challenger has emerged, we are yet to see if he is able to break through the glass ceiling hanging above the previous opposition.
How is that legal for you to have an explicity r@ cist, neo- f@ scist (and dare I say, almost neo-N@ zi) party in your parliament?!
Interesting that I got a Gyurcsány advertisement for this video…
I am writing as a Hungarian living in Lithuania. Péter Magyar is not necessarily popular at home. The majority is fed up with Viktor Orbán and his system.
Your summary was accurate, thank you on behalf of "normal" Hungarians.👍
agreed!
pm seems popular, but many of the voters (incl. me) are happy to vote even for a glass of voter if that will kick out fidesz
@@villain42 Yes! 👍
I'll vote for PM too and go home, that's for sure. At the consulate, I don't trust my vote.☝
1:57 Important thing is, that with 199 seats, having 133 and more seats means that he can re-write constitution...
I'm a queer Hungarian and while I don't agree with Péter Magyar politically, I'll vote for him in 2026 because at this point everything (except Mi Hazánk Mozgalom/Our Homeland Movement) is better than Fidesz
Peter perfectly doing the best, we have millions of problems ❤️❤️❤️❤️😊
Tisza is basically a single issue movement based on anti-corruption. A majority of their voters were Fidesz voters at the last election who are sick of corruption. Either Tisza will supplant Fidesz or Fidesz will dismantle the corruption machine. But it's still largely culturally Fidesz. Euroskepticism and Christian moral values still hold very strong places in the voting base of Tisza
while former fidesz voters are significant, most tisza voters voted for the united opposition in 2022 so if tisza wants to keep those voters, they'll need to be more center and progressive
Tisza voters are anti-Orban votes who voted for the united oppositon in 2022. Majority of fidesz voters will not vote for Tisza.
don't make me laugh, euroskepticism, néppárt, manfred weber, and christian? moral values, as preached by a jew?
The so-called left-wing opposition parties has proved many times that they are not able to join their forces and build and promote one strong candidate in each district so despite Magyar is coming from the right-wing, many disillusioned left-voters support him. I don't think that many former Fidesz supporters are sick of corruption. They were turning blind eyes on corruption for decades.
Orban, You should go to dance with Russians, after you lose to Peter.
Tisza is just as pro-Putin as Fidesz
Orbán will share a bunker bed with Assad in Moscow
Better to dance with Russians than with people like George Soros.
Hope he doesnt get voted out. Cuz then they might change their illegal immigration policy and become as "enriched" as the UK😢
@@Freerogueboss3They won't, Péter Magyar has worked closely with Orbán's government until 2022 and agrees with them for the most part. On the other hand, if he gets voted out for good Hungary might even see some improvements in living standards. And I hope he must hand over his palace he built in the middle of nothing, and all the lands and mining assets he stole so far bwahhaha... Oh yeah and we might get to know what happened with all the private pensions people paid that he „regrouped for economic efficiency issues“ back in 2011, and all the documents about socialist state secret service agents and all the treaties with Russia that he declared „top secret until 2050“... Oh and we might also get to know why so many of their very Christians members commit, well... inappropriate conduct against peoples of all ages and genders
A Hungarian here. Orbán has survived quite a few such slumps - and usually came out even stronger at the end somehow... Sadly, he is not stupid, and his crew knows precisely how to retain power and never really get near a scenario where the legitimacy of his leadership could be questioned. Frankly, I don't see a force or person who could threaten him. No charismatic leader on the other side, no viable alternative concept... Orbán knows very well who his voter base is, and only concentrates on keeping them - which is relatively easy having the control over the state media, which is still the primary source of information for his base (mainly the non-urban middle-aged and older voter).
I wish I was wrong about this, but I don't see anything that would suggest his power is in any kind of danger, poll numbers notwithstanding. For his voter base he is not simply the prime minister, but a hero who's successfully and continuously kept Hungary safe from outside threats - mainly the EU (yes, the prime minister of an EU member country doing everything he can to make "Brussel" seem like the Evil Empire in his voters eyes... go figure.)
This slump is a lot different though. It's a lot worse and he genuinely does not seem to be able to handle it.
It's over.
Even the stupidest elderly person will notice when the prices of everything keep doubling.
There's never been a more charismatic alternative than Peter. Sure he's not perfect but one thing he isn't is uncharismatic.
Miről beszélsz? Eddig minden politikai botránynál mentegetőzni lehetett azzal, hogy legalább a gazdaság fejlődik. Elértünk egy olyan pontot hogy hónapról hónapra rosszabbul él az átlag ember, ilyenkor már kevésbé hat a propaganda
@@85szabolcs I’ll say this, if the opposition is mostly about being anti-Orban and being very pro-EU, I don’t think they have the actual power to topple a politician who seems to know his fellow Hungarian kin. Any who don’t know their own people on a personal level are unlikely to win elections.
What’re your thoughts folks?
I was all excited and then realized the elections are in 2026...
Sooo much is still going to happen before 2026 :/
its a good thing that its in 2026. Péter Magyar's party is still relatively unorganized, they don't even have candidates yet, just him. We need time to organize the party and field our 106 candidates
It is only important for people actually following politics. 95% does not know any names outside of the main guy. I hope you are right, but there is a real chance by 2026 that Hungary goes full-blown dictatorship.
They are really not that far from it right now.
And with Trump in the white house, Putin isn't going anywhere soon...
Problem is Hungary is not a democracy anymore-we still have elections but they are far from democratic (they are not free and fair AT ALL, and manipulation is rampant). Everybody waiting for an opposition party to win the Hungarian election is basically waiting for someone to win a game of chess where the opponent wrote the rule book and has the right to change those very rules any way he wants, whenever he wants. It's pretty much hopeless.
Thank you for covering this! TISZA FTW!
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I hope He will go to jail soon, He have ruined our country for good....
We will need decades to recover.
I guess you never lived in the Communism, and are too young to remember what the country was like in 2010.
@peterbalogh8138 I guess you have no idea what Orban has done to Hungary in the past 14 years....
@@elesvazul you sound just like the average American leftie wishing trump went to prison. Keep wishing, this is the will of the people in action and finally some accountability for the left wing elites that have created the current situation. I guess accountability is hard to face when you’re not used to it and the socialists never take accountability for anything.
@@peterbalogh8138 And you are still living 14 years on the past grandpa while the rest of the world moved on from that! Time to wake up and stop being a sheep!
@@peterbalogh8138 "MÉÉÉÉ, A GYURCSÁNY JOBB VÓT???!?!??!"
Please god yes
what are we talking about here chief? 🤨
Pleasant clear voice. Rarity these days. Good content. Thank you.
Also, it is important to say, that Tisza's lead is bigger than on the aggregated polls. That slight slump in Tisza's popularity at the end of the poll is because during the last week, Fidesz funded organizations came out with the most random polls, saying Fidesz is leading with 10%. These are completely biased and only serve to counter the actual, non-government funded polls
I get more precise, unbiased, compact but yet broad and interesting info/reporting on this channel than on my country´s tax-financed news/tv-channels. Thank you! Br
Fun fact: Orbán won in 2010 with 2/3rds constitutional seats, then he changed the electoral law in such a way, that he'd have won with the 2006 results also. And every other 2/3 result since 2010 is only won with this new electoral law, that "compensates" the winner (!), and has districts with 30% disparity of number of voters (which should be under 10% as per the law.)
Akármilyen választási rendszerben nyertek volna minden évben te majom.
As a hungarian, to answer the question in the title and keeping it simple and short: yes it is.
As a Pole I really wish the Hungarians to achieve what we managed to do in 2023. It's possible! Don't give up and fight for your country!
Orban was somehow smarter than Kaczyński and changes done by Orban were much deeper and more difficult to reverse
@@Blanka1100 Kaczyński and his nasty droogs were not pro Russian, or not obviously. Orbán appears quite happy to sell Ukraine (and Europe) down the drain to Sauron. To take the Lord of the Ring analogy further (necessary to avoid RUclips's censorship) Orbán is Saruman....!
@@Blanka1100I still hope Orban loses
@@stephenthomas3085 True
Thank you very much!
I love that his surname basically means Hungary. Couldn’t have a better name to save Hungary from Orban
Small correction: magyar means Hungarian, Hungary is Magyarország (literal translation: Hungarian + country)
lots of jews changed their names, including Magyar Kohn peti, for a more sounding Hungarian name.
This reminds me of when the “pro family values” Australian Deputy PM was caught having an extramarital affair.
There were jokes being made that “Barnaby loves family values so much he wanted to have two”.
I'm Hungarian and I'm glad, that TLDR realized, what is the current situation in Hungary. I'll most likely vote for Tisza Party on the 2026 elections. Not because I support them, but because they are a real and solid opposition towards Orban, unlike other opposition parties. Most Hungarians are against Orban's government and he will soon meet his downfall.
Really smart move to vote for someone you don't support.
@@rgabi11 Maybe, but you need to realize, that Tisza is currently the only opposition party capable of defeating Orban's corrupt system. An uncertain solution is still better, than voting for Orban, who brings nothing, but destruction to Hungary for 14 years.
@ You need to realize that it would have catastrophic effects on Hungary. Just look at Germany and France. Soon there will be more black than white people. And their economies are in deep trouble.
He will fail like MZP tbh
I hope that at least one person of the TLDR speaks Hungarian!
As a native Hungarian who moved to the West recently, Peter has no chance of winning. If MZP failed, Peter will too. As a person who worked for a government supported environment, most of you and my fellow Hungarians have no idea what's going on behind closed doors. FIDESZ built a system that will stay around for a very, very long time. Whether Orban gives up the power to another FIDESZ member or not doesn't matter much, it might be worse if Janos Lazar would be the PM for example. Hungarians on average are rather simple, low-trust and corrupt (not to mention the right-leaning views and overall bigotry). As long as the voters outside of Budapest keep voting for FIDESZ, you can't do anything.
Unfortunately the voters outside of Budapest keep voting for fidesz because the opposition parties don't do their homework: They fail to build up strong candidates in 4/8/12 years. I am an opposition voter but seriously I don't know who the main opposition parties will promote in my district in 2026. They should already have a few well-known and trusted candidates in each district but they keep on fighting with each other until the last minute.
Voting for the opposition was hard: who do you trust? LMP? DK? MSZP? MKKP? Even if you trust one of these parties, do you trust their candidate? Even if you trust their candidate you can't know which one of them will be made to step back. Now it is easier with Tisza: Magyar is more popular than all the others which means more chance than waiting for the other opposition parties to make a successful join of forces (which they failed at 3 times already).
"I only believe statistics that I have forged myself." - Churchill probably
A couple years ago I would've still been on fidesz' side, but lately it clearly shows they've been at the helm for too long, and having power corrupts people. I want to see them gone, and see something new, got tired of their rethoric.
It is not the power that made them corrupt. They were corrupt from the start, you just didn't listen.
Why is he saying “Teaser” instead or Tisza? 😂😂😂
Because they don´t speak Hungarian but they listen about Hungary from its enemies.
We need Tisza ❤❤❤new government and Peter Magyar ❤️❤️❤️
I very much hope so.
Hes still got a few more scapegoats left in him. He’ll blame another minority for his mistakes and get back up there.
He'll TRY, but I dont think it will work. You can't blame economic issues like these on minorities. Aside from his most die-hard fans and complete idiots, nobody is going to buy that, say, LGBT people are causing mass inflation.
I hope so. Not holding my breath.
This has been told for several years!
When the day of the election comes, the odds usually favor the populist. I speak from experience 😂 seen it many many times.
Dear TLDR, it's the 4th time this semester you've show the class a thumbnail of sad Orban next to lines going down
I won't complain as long as Orbán is sad on the thumbnail
Orbán isn't going to last forever.
There is a lesson here that you guys obviously cannot report on. That the previous opposition likely was paid by Orbán, because they were so inefficient in everything they did and often their actions resulted in Orbán coming out better, event though they could have foreseen the outcomes... and I haven't even mentioned some of their shared business dealings and local agreements.
Yes, Gyurcsány has won a few elections...for Orbán.
Don't for a second think that the governance spendings of Orbán led to profitable long term investments. Most of the governance spending went to friends and family. Corruption has been accelerated to a new level.
Incumbents are losing everywhere because of inflation following post pandemic economic measures as the biggest common denominator.
I think you don't talk enough about the corruption and bribes used to keep him in power, which is frankly, more important than most of the content in this video.
We can only hope, If Orban is to lose this time then Hungary can finally pop champagne and fireworks and actually participate with EU instead of being a petty old EU fund beggar.
This is in the end about Hungarians that are getting the ass end of Orbans policies.
The EU is garbage and falling apart. Scholz just lost his job too. The EU is about globalism.
Take heart from Poland.
I have a more sensible question....what about the end of the EU as we know it?
give up any hope that this left wing channel will ever criticise the rotten eu.
Ursula should sit in prison for the Phizergate.
@@marysmik9812 this rubbish, left wing channel won't agree with you
A bag of potato won't be enough to buy votes this time.
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I think the brainwashing is too deep for people who only consume government propaganda, but I hope I'm proven wrong
As a Hungarian, I say: do not get your hopes up 😂. Fidesz has a bigger reach on people than you realise
Ground do not work in Hungary, they can't even tell if 444 or telex is left, right or centre...
It literally says they are centrists
@@GaryVR lol, thats worse than nothing. The last time I checked they did not had a "rating".
@@thombaz Why is being centrist bad?
@@GaryVR Being centrist is optimal, but these sites are clearly not centrsits.
@@thombaz What makes you think that?
You are now aware that the worst hyperinflation on record wasn't the Weimar German paper mark but the Hungarian Pengo
4:34 Only I noticed that in latest TLDR videos Romania is never on the charts of European countries?
I've searched it too (as an hungarian from Romania)
Small correction here:
Tisza - TEE - SA
FIDESZ - FI-DES
Závecz - ZAA - VETS
Although your understanding on what 'opposition' means, the video is fairly correct. Thanks!
Dear Hungarians,
Please kick him out. We believe in you.
Sincerely yours,
Europe
In italy we kinda like him
@@des_moines840you can have him and keep him then, we really don't need him in Hungary
We are working on it. I'm sure this time Orban lose the election in 2026. If he dare rigging it we go to the street. Enough is enough
Yeah, no. Orban is the reason Hungary doesn't become another Ukraine.
@@Red-Check-Mark No, the reason Hungary isn't becoming another Ukraine is NATO.
Hope for the best..
Let's hope it is.
EU bot
@@cesare4926 *human being that understands how democracy works
Hope he doesnt get voted out. Cuz then they might change their illegal immigration policy and become as "enriched" as the UK😢
@@Freerogueboss3 first of all, he is running the country into the dirt, so as a Hungarian I will not tolerate any foreigner telling me how good he is. Second, I don't think you have an understanding of Hungary and Hungarians. Even the most liberal leftist party would be considered far-right in an actual liberal country, and no one would vote for them in Hungary. Also, Orban is currently bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants from asia. Magyar Peter and Tisza party represents the same conservative values, but without all the corruption and anti-democratic stuff.
As a hungarian the decline started about a year ago. Btw if u want to see some desperate atempt from Orbán's party infront of an orphanage, where their communications director acted like your least favourite drunken at the local bar
Don't give me hope
Where does Tiza stand when it comes to EU and Ukraine/Russia? I don’t know why media outlets don’t cover that whenever they report about this party.
We've been hearing this shit for 10 years and Orban still has mass support.
It's been weakening.
@@arandombard1197 Bless your cotton little socks ..
This time is different
@@123_1 TDLR predicted a Kamala Harris win
Now tell me why is "this time" different?
@@123_1 they always say that
We have all learned by now the polls are about as reliable as letting an octopus choose a football winner
Someone, ANYONE help this guy get at least some of the pronunciations correct.
“VICE-GRAD”?!?
Like a middle school morning announcements show.
If i had to describe the Yobbik Party the word "conservative" wouldnt be my first choice
They are clearly nationalist/patriotic but at the same time regarding some topics they were more leftist than the officially "leftist" parties :D
These labels don't mean too much here but if we insist on using them then Jobbik would be "conservative" in the sense of conserving national traditions and values while Fidesz is "conservative" as conserving their power in a quasi(?)-feudal system.
Let’s make Hungary Great Again 🇪🇺
New goverment and lots of hard work ❤❤❤❤
There were problems here mainly because of the Central Bank President's turn against Orbán...
Petre Maghiarul 😂
*I don't TRUST polls 😅😂*
As someone who's from Hungary, I see that all the hopes of the democratic opposition currently rest solely on Péter Magyar - hoping there will ever be any change in the country. I observe that there are many of us who would like to change, but unfortunately, there are still a lot of people (mainly from rural areas, those with less education and the pensioners) who continue to idolize Viktor Orbán and will vote for Fidesz under any circumstances. The worse the country's economic situation, the more people vote for Fidesz.
Even though most public opinion polls currently show an advantage for the Tisza Párt, it must be acknowledged that Fidesz has been governing the country with a constitutional majority since 2010 (with a few exceptions for brief periods) and has used this power - among others - to reshape the electoral law to suit its own interests. Recently, they have even taken two constituencies away from the predominantly opposition-supporting Budapest, and I am sure that by the spring of 2026, they will do everything in their power to keep their current state secure.
Another challenge for Tisza is that the party currently has only around 20 members, and it still feels very much like Péter Magyar’s one-man show. While they are actively looking for future leaders, one of their key criteria is that only those who have never served under any previous Hungarian government can join them. This is an attempt to build a relatively new team of fresh faces with clean records.
I sincerely hope they succeed, but it is important to remember that the majority of people do not get their information from independent sources, and the disgusting propaganda disseminated by the government has already reached unimaginable depths. Unfortunately, it is likely to get even worse in the next 1.5 years.
The same old.... Fidesz in 2022 had massive majority in ALL social strata. This is the typical self-delusional condescending attitude towards the opponent. Never worked, and never will. As if people did not have access to Internet, or could read foreign papers and news, on what the EU has become through its idiotic laws, self-destructing economy, woke ideology and all the rest that make people rush to vote for Orban against THIS madness.
Actual Individual Consumption (AIC) per capita, 2023 (EU average = 100), source: Eurostat
Bulgaria 69
Hungary 71
Croatia 76
Latvia 76
Slovakia 77
Estonia 78
Greece 78
Czechia 83
Malta 83
Spain 86
Romania 86
Poland 87
Portugal 87
Slovenia 87
Ireland 94
Lithuania 94
Cyprus 97
European Union - 27 100
Italy 100
France 107
Finland 109
Denmark 110
Sweden 110
Belgium 115
Netherlands 116
Switzerland 117
Germany 118
Austria 118
Iceland 119
Norway 127
Luxembourg 138
As a Hungarian, all I can say with certainty is that whatever Magyar Péter started can't be stopped anymore
It's possible they won't win the election or if they do, they will fail after a few months, but they made a lot of people realise it's possible to make Hungary a solid place to live
I think it's safe to say that a lot of us young adults, thought the system was too large to fail and there is not much we can do anymore
Yea, if you want somebody who tapped his own wife (and also later his girlfriend), wanted to blackmail her while physically abusing her, threatened his own kids to chuck them under guardianship, rob phone in a disco.... surely, the signs of healthy mind and moral.
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All these sound ridiculous next to Orban's crimes. He impoverished an entire country, not just broke a phone. Do you read yourself? How does it even matter? And he never abused his wife. You can repeat that until you turn blue, it's still a lie. Even his wife denies abuse.
I can't believe you still have the nerve to compare the 2 men.
That would be amazing.
How many videos has had the same title at this point?
Will the frog 🐸 finally be boiled 🤔???
As a Hungarian I am convinced Mr Orban is one the very few sane leaders in Europe today. God bless this man.
Look man. As a Hungarian, I can only see that my wage is getting less and less enough. I can save less, I can consume less. Sane or not, I am not convinced that Fidesz is the right direction. I want to try something new.
Hopefully yes
While the general picture is correct it is sad to see how dishonest TLDR is when cherry picking data sources for polls, real wages etc just to acheive a more gloomy image of Hungarys’ and Fidesz performance than the reality. Makes me doubt your other productions too unfortunately, leading to an un-subscribe.