Oh, hell yes. I recently purchased a Ronin SC and wondered if it was possible to Active Track myself with the gimbal mounted on a tripod. Using the trigger to lock on/off is so convenient and easy! In vlogging mode it basically works like an oversized (and higher quality) Osmo Pocket.
This is incredible. I just watched a video from another guy who basically hated it because DJI uses a cellphone to track the object, but the alternatives were not as smooth or convenient as this gimbal. Thanks for the class!
You are a lifesaver.. I got the Ronin s c for this main feature. But my problem was trying to get it to track myself. While standing in front of the camera having to Guess where I was in the frame. Most of the time it didn't pan out so well. Thanks for this.
Nailed it. 😍You told me exactly what I needed to hear today. You just got a new subscriber. 😀I enjoy your content and delivery. My Ronin SC confuses me so much - as a solo creator, I want to add so many things to my gimbal setup. 😢
Just ordered the Ronin-SC. Thanks for all the great tips! I'm following you, not just because of the good content with the SC, but mostly because you said Camera-Person! ❤
Awesome glad it helps!! I’m working on another one showing how to use tracking (not active track) to do sort of the same thing. That video will be coming soon
I LOVE ❤️ that transition at 3:21 oh man you've given me like a super WHOA when I saw that! Great video in general dude! I usually film other people but due to the current restrictions I want to make more videos filming myself so I will try ActiveTrack this weekend and see how it works!
This setting is why I sold my Feiyu AK2000, which was fine but as a solo creator, active track is a game changer. I hope DJI continues to improve this feature and eliminates the random pauses I noticed as you were walking, it kinda thought you were getting ready to stop but then it kept going. Watched all three videos before setting up my Ronin.
@@JakeSloan ya the feiyu had that feature I use to use it for various shots very smooth. For self record, while smooth, that brings it's own set of challenges such as planning the timing and framing of where you're going to be. I think with active track it'll be a matter of being decisive and smooth with movement so as to not confuse DJI. I'm sure good shots can be accomplished 10x easier than with non active track, similar to DJI drones which act in the same way. Can't wait to give it a try!
You'll want to have the phone connect to your camera wifi and use the app that your camera manufacturer has made to do live view remote. Sony has one they made for their cameras
I was trying to find active tracking videos for mirrorless setup. Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have now a feeling that this is going to be expensive for me ;)
Ive noticed sometimes its difficult to keep things in frame because the vertical distance between the camera lens and the phone lens is fairly significant. so if something is in frame in the phone it sometimes falls out of frame or out of center in the camera. But the wider angle lenses definitely make this less noticeable. Pretty awesome setup by Ronin though.
Thumbs up mate - I sussed it all very quickly after watching this, It would be great if Ronin app did a facetrack, where you could pre program the face which needs to be followed - this would be better for self creators.
Hi Bud, I tried my darndest to set the SC up to do Active Track and finally conceded defeat. The phone mount supplied with the Ronin SC seems to be a beast for some reason and is just too heavy in addition to the Sony a6400 plus a smart phone and a lens with any glass. The tilt axis just couldn't do it, and if it would have made it, the usable range would have been too limiting for my taste. Little disappointed but I returned the SC and got the S, and yes it is bigger, but I had no problem balancing and using the feature (and the app is the same so your tutorial was still useful!). This thing is a beast and I can't put it down, even though the SC does have some features that the S doesn't have including a bunch of accessories that I had to purchase separate. Anyway, just my 2 cents!
Interesting but you are right. Either way it makes the range pretty limited due to the size and weight. I’ll be curious to see how DJI addresses this in the next generation of ronin gimbals. I’m sure we will find out in a few weeks. Cheers man!!
Do you need usb cable connecting camera to gimbal to have this function active? I have canon m50 and ronin gives a message to connect cable that’s why I haven’t yet tried.
Hi Jake. I have the canon eos M50 and I’ve been trying to use the follow feature with my phone. When I try and balance the camera it is moved into a position that bends the cable that is connected to the camera. Any ideas on this? Do I need to buy a different cable? Thank you.
Hey Jake, thanks for the in-depth video...really helped. What are your thoughts about autofocus settings when using gimbal and going in and out of near/far subjects. I'm using GH5, which isn't the best at that, but would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!!
Thanks for the video. Do you have a problem with the till movement? Because I just purchased a ronin sc and using it with a7iii + 28-70 and my camera always falls when I do till movement. And the whole construction looks fragile and unstable
Hi Jake - I have a $1ML question for you: Do you shoot in 4K 60fps or 24fps? I like the quality of your video and try to replicate it with my Lumix G9. Thanks
Great hack you made my day!!! Have you tried, how long you can track? I want to track my lectures 60-90 min with Sony A6600. (Maybe with the Sony remote control to zoom) I tried it before with DJY Osmo and iPhoneX, but after 15 minutes or so the iPhone was to hot and quit, thanks
I haven't tried that long and battery life might be an issue with the phone. You could probably plug in a usb power bank though and when you do it besure and dim the phone screen as much as possible. that is where a lot of the heat issues come from.
@@JakeSloan Thanks Jake, for the screen tip, I already went to 30 instead of 60 frames, and reduced the resolution, but I already ordered the A6600 and RoninSC ;-))
Great video, , didactically perfect, thank you! If I frame a distant object, say 200 metres away, zoom in to bring it close, can I follow it with tracking or does the gimbal software have a physical (not zoom) limit?
Hey, I've just got the Ronin SC! I'm so so confused I just cannot balance the camera with the phone ontop! I've tried it with my Sony rx100 in a cage, with and without the raiser, I've also tried it with my old Nikon d5000 which is within the weight limit and neither will balance!!! Both mean I have to lower the tilt axis so far it bangs the back of the gimabl meaning I can tilt hardly at all! And the app keeps saying the tilt axis is not balanced even when it is but hits the back like I've said!! Ah so annoying.
I have found the tilt axis to be very difficult to balance when the phone is on top as well. To start with make sure you have a camera that is heavier than the phone on the bottom otherwise it will be almost impossible to balance. The next trick is to balance it as close as you can but it might likely still be a bit bottom heavy so the tilt axis will still fall to where camera is sitting level but it should still work since for tracking you usually don't use a ton of tilt movement. I hope that helps and makes sense!!
PS! The trigger doesn't work for Fujifilm cameras (yet). For some reason, it only can trigger photos. I think Sony and Canon cameras still get more support in these kind of things from other companies.
I saw your video and bought an SC. Im finding it very difficult to balance the gimbal with the phone on top. Normal camera balancing on it im able to do quite easily.
It is especially with the phone on top. I usually can get everything balanced but the tilt axis I have to just get as close as possible and let it run that way
Just found you Great Video Jake One thing I wish DJI would come up with... I wish DJI would make a Mini touch screen for the tracking that I could connect to my phone because my Samsung Note 9 is a giant phone and so hard to balance on the ronin-SC but also so I could see the box I set for tracking myself Best regards, rick
That would be fantastic. The other way around it is to use tracking (not active track) and pre program everything but that requires a fair bit of work on the timing of everything.
I just got the Ronin rs2 with the gh5 and when I use active track it is manual focus? The DJI app doesn't change focus auto? I thought it was at first.
I find it difficult to get my gimbal balanced with phone on top of camera, then I read that someone puts the phone off the camera and on one of the side attachment points. Have you tried this? I did make one attempt but the gimbal went off on it's own and couldn't find the tracked object. However, it was an object not a person.
JAKE HELP 😰.. i don’t know why but my Ronin Sc’s Active Track is messed up. whenever i am trying yo track , the camera is going haywire and upside doing a rotation kind of thing , donknow why it’s happening 🤷♂️
Great video. Do you wear the rode go on your body? I also see the dead cat on your hand held with the jobi - why do you need sound on that one if you already have the rode go already?
I switch between depending on what I’m doing and how close or far from the camera I am going to be. It also changes based on how much wind is happening on location.
I did a video showing step by step how to balance the ronin sc here: ruclips.net/video/r9XczVp02gA/видео.html the key with the phone on top is you really won’t get the tilt axis to balance. It typically just has to go as low as it will go
Yes unfortunately, however you can set the tilt of the camera with it set so that the eye piece just barely misses and the gimbal will still work well even though it isn’t perfectly balanced. The other option is to remove the eye piece or use a plate made by small rig to add some weights to the back of the camera
Unfortunately DJI doesn't allow you to select the different cameras with active track. This may have been updated after recording this video and this comment lol
This is probably a dumb question but can you not mount the phone facing the other way and use the selfie camera to do the tracking, meaning you'd be able to see the phone screen to know it's set up correctly? Or are the selfie cameras not of high enough quality to do that?
So, I'm interested in using active tracking to film solo dance videos, camera mounted on tripod. I'd like to track the subject at full length with their whole body in the frame. This would allow the dancers movements to dictate where the shot is. My worry is the Ronin seems to put subjects in the centre of the (phone) frame. This might chop off feet/lower body. Can you offset the camera angle compared to the phone angle or should I just shoot from a bit further back and crop in post? Any ideas if the active tracking would be useful in my intended scenario? Thanks!
Actually it could be! Once the Ronin SC is tracking you can use the joystick to move the camera around and frame your subject the way you want (whole body) and from then on the Ronin SC and your phone will try and keep the subject framed that way!
@@JakeSloan Thanks for the reply Jake! That sounds promising. So one tracks a subject then you can fine tune the camera position with the joystick afterwards? Cool!
which way are you having difficulty balancing? I know for me I can't get the tilt axis balanced very well with the phone on top just because the load is so weird. I lower it to where the center of gravity is on the low side but it is balanced as best I can from front to back. I hope that helps!
Jake Sloan hi Jake. Thanks so much for the reply. I'll try your way and c where we end up. There got to be a sweet spot there somewhere Thanks for the advice it really appreciated. I really enjoy your channel's great and helpful content. Thanks again.
4:58 So I’m a little confused about what happens when you hit the home button. Does it keep tracking even when the Ronin app is in the background? If that’s true, can you set up active track and then switch your phone to a camera app (Moment, Filmic Pro, etc.) and start recording and it keeps tracking? This would be super useful to get a different angle of the same tracking sequence. Has anyone tried using a smartphone as the main camera with this gimbal? I can think of a few times that would be really useful for my workflow. Specifically when I need good audio for a lightweight, mobile shot. I would consider mounting my mixpre3, my phone, and a microphone (still well under the 2kg max payload) and then I wouldn’t need a bag or anything. Totally self-contained lightweight gimbal. Not something I need that often, but when I need it it would be awesome. Thoughts on a setup like that, anyone? And does anyone know if the phone can record while tracking?
Does the app not allow using the front facing camera? Seems like it would be so much easier to set up and monitor when using solo if it would use the front facing camera
I have the Ronin SC and have been struggling with it. The biggest issue is using the mount and a phone. I have successfully balanced it without the phone and mount. I assume the correct way is to have the phone and the mount on the camera and then balance it. The problem I think is the constant rebalancing as the weight will be different when I want to use it without the phone mounted. I did try with some luck by locking one of the motors, but I don't think the Ronin liked it. Any suggestions?
Yes if you want to use it with active track you need to balance it with the phone on top of the camera. If you want to use it without the phone (not using active track) you will need to balance it that way (without the phone) basically any time you change the setup a lot weight wise you will need to rebalance the gimbal.
@@JakeSloan sounds good. The biggest frustration came with learning how to balance it. Now knowing how to do so, it should be pretty straight ahead. Thanks for the great videos and your help!
I have a video showing how to balance releasing Wednesday. It’s def a learning curve but it gets easier!!! Hang in there and soon it will be second nature
Thanks a lot for the great video, quick question, when phone is mounted, the tilt axis is very low, so it hits the back part around pan axis. When using the mobile to check how well is your balance,, it shows tilt axis not balanced, is that normal? We don't use that option while doing phone mount and just do motor calibration?
Hello Jake, your video has provided me some incredibly useful information. Thank you. I also really liked your intro with your name on it, would you like to share how you did that? Thank you in advance.
Thanks Moses! I'll put together a video about how I did the handwriting intro soon. It took me a bit to figure it out lol but I really like it since it makes it absolutely personal since it is actually my handwriting! Cheers
There's an old fisherman called RodAngles on RUclips and he has all what you can do plus zooming in. How does he do it? I would love to find out if you know. Great video btw.
@@JakeSloan yes...his fishing channel is called RodsAngleUK...all his videos uses auto gimbals...Im sure he's not got someone operating it because the camera's is sometimes over water, and no wife or friend is going to stand in water for hours. Also he doesn't wear any wirst bands for infrared. Also his AI is smart enough to pan out when he picks his rod up and captures his whole fishing rod and him, so it's better than face recognition. That band around his wrist is a leather thing that goes over his finger to protect it when casting his rod.
What is a cheap DSLR gimbal which u can track with? I rent the weebill S before for 1 month and it was a good gimbal but idk if u can track with it. The DJI Ronin seems like a good gimbal too but what would i need to track with it, only this transmitter? Greetings from germany
This would be killer, and all by itself, would convince me to buy the Ronin SC immediately. I use a DJI Osmo Pocket this way, and it’s great, but the quality isn’t as good as my EOS R, plus you can’t use the Osmo Pocket’s wireless adaptor (to allow me to lasso myself on my phone whilst in the field) and a wireless mic at the same time.
Quick question. I just got this gimbal literally four hours ago and I'm watching a series of videos. By the way this is one of the best ones. So I've seen a few videos where people melt their phones on top. I get that part but my question is why do you not flip the Cell phone around so you can see yourself?
Can't seem to get the camera to balance with addition of the phone holder and iPhone xs to use active track successfully. Any suggestions? Using the A7iii, 28mm f2 lens and small rig cage.
When I balance the tilt with the A7iii and the phone I only balance it so that it doesn't tilt forward or backward. It has to be so far down that it is really difficult to get the tilt to where it will not be top heavy but that is ok since it doesn't need to tilt much in active track mode. Maybe I can do a video on this soon
My gimble shakes violently because it's so top heavy with my phone, so it's not going to work for me it looks like no one is mentioning this in all of their videos
HELP have a Problems it does not work my camera sony A7iii 28-70mm f3,5 and Iphone 7 wear too heavy disorders tilt motor gimbal weakness . ???? !!!!!!!
Jake, thanks for the video! Question- how does focus work? Is the App driving the focus, the Sony, or you just set the aperture to maintain focus? Without a forward-facing screen, how do you know that you're in focus and the content you're capturing is usable?
I use the auto focus on my Sony cameras which is fantastic. I set the Fstop the shutter speed and let the camera pick the iso. Sony’s autofocus is really really amazing now with face detection. It locks on and is super accurate.
Great video thanks, exactly what I wanted to know. I use a canon m50 with old c-mount lenses, so manual focus, do you think activetrack would work in this instance? Any help appreciated thank you
@@JakeSloan shot in the dark, but have you seen any one use this to track someone doing sports? I'm a kiteboarder, and want to film myself... but can't find anyone using a gimbal to film something thats a bit more high action. Great video by the way, watched a bunch and yours was the most helpful.
Jake, Are you using the Rode Wireless Go to provide all the sound for this video. I've been going to buy one but wasn't sure how good it was. Thanks , Mike
I am using the wireless go for this video and I like it quite a bit. You can hear more examples of how it sounds here: ruclips.net/video/mHEA2rK5QtA/видео.html that video was recorded with the Wireless go entirely as well. Cheers!!
Dude. That’s trigger button is a game changer. Thank you for that. It was so difficult to reach around and get the tracking started.
Youre welcome!!!
wow!!! you ve opened up a world of possibilities as a solo filmmaker and musician! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
My pleasure!
Oh, hell yes. I recently purchased a Ronin SC and wondered if it was possible to Active Track myself with the gimbal mounted on a tripod. Using the trigger to lock on/off is so convenient and easy! In vlogging mode it basically works like an oversized (and higher quality) Osmo Pocket.
Yeah it’s pretty sweet!!
This is incredible. I just watched a video from another guy who basically hated it because DJI uses a cellphone to track the object, but the alternatives were not as smooth or convenient as this gimbal. Thanks for the class!
you're welcome
You are a lifesaver.. I got the Ronin s c for this main feature. But my problem was trying to get it to track myself. While standing in front of the camera having to Guess where I was in the frame. Most of the time it didn't pan out so well. Thanks for this.
You're welcome! I was excited when I figured it out too lol. Cheers
anyone watching, just turn your phone to face you in the grip lol
Great stuff Jake. Just purchased the Ronin SC and your videos are really helping. Keep up the good work.
Glad to hear it
Nailed it. 😍You told me exactly what I needed to hear today. You just got a new subscriber. 😀I enjoy your content and delivery. My Ronin SC confuses me so much - as a solo creator, I want to add so many things to my gimbal setup. 😢
Fantastic thanks for subscribing!
Just ordered the Ronin-SC. Thanks for all the great tips! I'm following you, not just because of the good content with the SC, but mostly because you said Camera-Person! ❤
Thanks!
This was super valuable!! Thank you for doing these.
Awesome glad it helps!! I’m working on another one showing how to use tracking (not active track) to do sort of the same thing. That video will be coming soon
awesome videos on the SC, best i found on youtube, thanks 🙏
Thank you
Thanks Jake. My cameraman is quite difficult to work with...I am my cameraman! So active track is up there on my list.
Lol! Mine too. He never stops complaining...
Great tutorial, just had my Ronin SC delivered and will be wanting this for slow tracking shots! Subbed!
Awesome! I hope you like the SC and have great fun filming with it!! Cheers
I LOVE ❤️ that transition at 3:21 oh man you've given me like a super WHOA when I saw that! Great video in general dude! I usually film other people but due to the current restrictions I want to make more videos filming myself so I will try ActiveTrack this weekend and see how it works!
Thank you!
hey that future me edit was dope i swear
Thanks a lot
This setting is why I sold my Feiyu AK2000, which was fine but as a solo creator, active track is a game changer. I hope DJI continues to improve this feature and eliminates the random pauses I noticed as you were walking, it kinda thought you were getting ready to stop but then it kept going. Watched all three videos before setting up my Ronin.
It’s awesome! I’ve also been using tracking (not active track) to presetup shots to record myself
@@JakeSloan ya the feiyu had that feature I use to use it for various shots very smooth. For self record, while smooth, that brings it's own set of challenges such as planning the timing and framing of where you're going to be. I think with active track it'll be a matter of being decisive and smooth with movement so as to not confuse DJI. I'm sure good shots can be accomplished 10x easier than with non active track, similar to DJI drones which act in the same way. Can't wait to give it a try!
@@JakeSloan Hi Jake if I wanted to use phone as a monitor but not necessarily for active track how do you set the phone as a monitor ?
Thanks
You'll want to have the phone connect to your camera wifi and use the app that your camera manufacturer has made to do live view remote. Sony has one they made for their cameras
@@JakeSloan Thanks Jake. I thought perhaps it worked through the Ronin App.
I had a Weebill and that connected through the App.
So helpful. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Good stuff on all of your Ronin SC videos! Subscribed!
Thank you very much!
FANTASTIC!!! THANK YOU.. I just got one today..
Awesome
Good editing job, Jake! Always enjoy your footage of the great outdoors up there, too!
Thanks. I had to edit and re-upload this one because I left out an important feature lol.
Great demo! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Love the channel. Very helpful. Straight to the point and clear instructions. Good job. You got another subscriber
Thank you!
I was trying to find active tracking videos for mirrorless setup. Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have now a feeling that this is going to be expensive for me ;)
Lol isn’t everything to do with cameras expensive? Glad the video helped!!
Ive noticed sometimes its difficult to keep things in frame because the vertical distance between the camera lens and the phone lens is fairly significant. so if something is in frame in the phone it sometimes falls out of frame or out of center in the camera. But the wider angle lenses definitely make this less noticeable. Pretty awesome setup by Ronin though.
True it’s definitely not perfect
I found your video because I was looking on how to track yourself. NICE TRIGGER BUTTON
Oh the trigger is absolutely awesome for starting and stopping tracking of yourself!
@@JakeSloan oh is this an actual thing -- I couldn't get this to work.. will try again thx
Cool video Jake. Thanx much for the info! 👍👍
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!!
I shot a video in the same spot 3 years ago! Thanks for the advice, I’m gonna get this!
NICE!!! You may want to consider the newer DJI RSC 2 if you have a heavy camera
Thanks for the help sir! Subbed!
You're welcome! Thank you for subbing!
Great tutorial man. And especially thanks for linking the "little rail thing", that will save me some googling.
You’re welcome! It took me a while to find it too lol.
Thumbs up mate - I sussed it all very quickly after watching this, It would be great if Ronin app did a facetrack, where you could pre program the face which needs to be followed - this would be better for self creators.
That would be fantastic and I'm sure at the pace of development its only a year or two off!
Hi Bud, I tried my darndest to set the SC up to do Active Track and finally conceded defeat. The phone mount supplied with the Ronin SC seems to be a beast for some reason and is just too heavy in addition to the Sony a6400 plus a smart phone and a lens with any glass. The tilt axis just couldn't do it, and if it would have made it, the usable range would have been too limiting for my taste. Little disappointed but I returned the SC and got the S, and yes it is bigger, but I had no problem balancing and using the feature (and the app is the same so your tutorial was still useful!). This thing is a beast and I can't put it down, even though the SC does have some features that the S doesn't have including a bunch of accessories that I had to purchase separate. Anyway, just my 2 cents!
Interesting but you are right. Either way it makes the range pretty limited due to the size and weight. I’ll be curious to see how DJI addresses this in the next generation of ronin gimbals. I’m sure we will find out in a few weeks. Cheers man!!
Does it have a tracking feature?
Great video! Just got a Ronin SC, and wondered how to film myself solo!!
It works great for filming yourself!
Do you need usb cable connecting camera to gimbal to have this function active? I have canon m50 and ronin gives a message to connect cable that’s why I haven’t yet tried.
it does not really sure why but it does
Great vid, thanks for the info. That is it my mind is made up I'm getting the Ronin SC.
thanks
I never knew that the trigger button on the gimbal can activate active track. Thanks for the info.
You’re welcome
love the channel bro!
Thank you very much!
Beautiful location !
Thanks!
Thank you, Jake) very helpful
You're welcome
To stop tracking just put the motors on standby by pushing the off button of the ronin 😊😊😊
true and great tip
Awesome video. Thanks
You're welcome!
Good information
Thanks
LOve the location you are in, very nice to see beautiful landscape while learning about products.
Thank you! I am fortunate to live in such amazing scenery for sure so I'm glad to show it off while filming reviews and tutorials!
Where abouts is this?? ❤
Thank you for these videos! I will be purchasing the rail and Rode wireless mic through your affiliate links.
Thank you
Subscribed…best lapel mic for iPhone 13 pro max…GO!
Deity makes some good ones. Sennheiser does as well!
amazing!
Thanks
Thank you :)
You're welcome!
Thanks for the video!
you bet
I watched it again....Good stuff! That trigger click would be a lot easier for tracking! Nice 👍🏻
Oh man SOOOOO much easier lol
I want to come hang in Alaska mannnnn!
come! we can kayak to a glacier to climb around on and go hit some high mountain lakes and meadows too...
Thank you ! 😄✨🙏
youre welcome
Hi Jake. I have the canon eos M50 and I’ve been trying to use the follow feature with my phone. When I try and balance the camera it is moved into a position that bends the cable that is connected to the camera. Any ideas on this? Do I need to buy a different cable? Thank you.
Send me a dm on twitter or Instagram with a picture if you can.
Thanks for making this. Do you know if you could use the front facing camera so you could then see the action?
Unfortunately no you can’t
Great video. I think we have the same tripod. The Manfrotto compact action? Has it ever fallen over with your stabilizer setup?
No but I have since moved on to better tripods. I use the peak design travel tripod and also ifootage TC5 too. Cheers.
Hey Jake, thanks for the in-depth video...really helped. What are your thoughts about autofocus settings when using gimbal and going in and out of near/far subjects. I'm using GH5, which isn't the best at that, but would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!!
I would try and set the focus before hand since the GH5 doesn't handle autofocus particularly well
Thanks for the video. Do you have a problem with the till movement? Because I just purchased a ronin sc and using it with a7iii + 28-70 and my camera always falls when I do till movement. And the whole construction looks fragile and unstable
A little bit I do. That’s why I generally only do panning movements.
Hi Jake - I have a $1ML question for you: Do you shoot in 4K 60fps or 24fps? I like the quality of your video and try to replicate it with my Lumix G9. Thanks
This was shot in 24fps. I also shoot in 30fps
@@JakeSloan Thank and sorry for the stupid question but I am learning.
Great hack
you made my day!!!
Have you tried, how long you can track? I want to track my lectures 60-90 min with Sony A6600. (Maybe with the Sony remote control to zoom) I tried it before with DJY Osmo and iPhoneX, but after 15 minutes or so the iPhone was to hot and quit, thanks
I haven't tried that long and battery life might be an issue with the phone. You could probably plug in a usb power bank though and when you do it besure and dim the phone screen as much as possible. that is where a lot of the heat issues come from.
@@JakeSloan Thanks Jake, for the screen tip, I already went to 30 instead of 60 frames, and reduced the resolution, but I already ordered the A6600 and RoninSC ;-))
Great video, , didactically perfect, thank you! If I frame a distant object, say 200 metres away, zoom in to bring it close, can I follow it with tracking or does the gimbal software have a physical (not zoom) limit?
it cannot follow subjects very far away unfortunately
Hey, I've just got the Ronin SC! I'm so so confused I just cannot balance the camera with the phone ontop! I've tried it with my Sony rx100 in a cage, with and without the raiser, I've also tried it with my old Nikon d5000 which is within the weight limit and neither will balance!!! Both mean I have to lower the tilt axis so far it bangs the back of the gimabl meaning I can tilt hardly at all! And the app keeps saying the tilt axis is not balanced even when it is but hits the back like I've said!! Ah so annoying.
I have found the tilt axis to be very difficult to balance when the phone is on top as well. To start with make sure you have a camera that is heavier than the phone on the bottom otherwise it will be almost impossible to balance. The next trick is to balance it as close as you can but it might likely still be a bit bottom heavy so the tilt axis will still fall to where camera is sitting level but it should still work since for tracking you usually don't use a ton of tilt movement. I hope that helps and makes sense!!
PS! The trigger doesn't work for Fujifilm cameras (yet). For some reason, it only can trigger photos. I think Sony and Canon cameras still get more support in these kind of things from other companies.
The trigger doesn’t work to start recording on any camera. Is that what you mean?
I saw your video and bought an SC. Im finding it very difficult to balance the gimbal with the phone on top. Normal camera balancing on it im able to do quite easily.
It is especially with the phone on top. I usually can get everything balanced but the tilt axis I have to just get as close as possible and let it run that way
Just found you
Great Video Jake
One thing I wish DJI would come up with...
I wish DJI would make a Mini touch screen for the tracking that I could connect to my phone
because my Samsung Note 9 is a giant phone and so hard to balance on the ronin-SC
but also so I could see the box I set for tracking myself
Best regards, rick
That would be fantastic. The other way around it is to use tracking (not active track) and pre program everything but that requires a fair bit of work on the timing of everything.
was wondering why you didnt point the phone screen toward you so you didnt have to reach around? great video thanks!
DJI didn't allow for that to happen
I see why now didn’t realize the active track is taking data from the phone not camera 😅😅
I just got the Ronin rs2 with the gh5 and when I use active track it is manual focus? The DJI app doesn't change focus auto? I thought it was at first.
The DJI app does not control focus at all
Don't mean to be obvious but whyyyyyy in the heck didn't you simply face the phone TOWARDS you?
Am I missing something here?
The app for the Ronin SC doesn't allow you to use the front facing camera it only works with the rear camera. Cheers
I find it difficult to get my gimbal balanced with phone on top of camera, then I read that someone puts the phone off the camera and on one of the side attachment points. Have you tried this? I did make one attempt but the gimbal went off on it's own and couldn't find the tracked object. However, it was an object not a person.
it is difficult to balance with a phone on top
JAKE HELP 😰.. i don’t know why but my Ronin Sc’s Active Track is messed up. whenever i am trying yo track , the camera is going haywire and upside doing a rotation kind of thing , donknow why it’s happening 🤷♂️
Definitely make sure the phone is attached to the Camera!
Great video. Do you wear the rode go on your body? I also see the dead cat on your hand held with the jobi - why do you need sound on that one if you already have the rode go already?
I switch between depending on what I’m doing and how close or far from the camera I am going to be. It also changes based on how much wind is happening on location.
did you save your settings on the roll/tilt/pan spots, can't get this thing balanced for the life of me
I did a video showing step by step how to balance the ronin sc here: ruclips.net/video/r9XczVp02gA/видео.html the key with the phone on top is you really won’t get the tilt axis to balance. It typically just has to go as low as it will go
Do you have a problem with eye piece hitting the motor when using the Tamron 28-75 lens?
Yes unfortunately, however you can set the tilt of the camera with it set so that the eye piece just barely misses and the gimbal will still work well even though it isn’t perfectly balanced. The other option is to remove the eye piece or use a plate made by small rig to add some weights to the back of the camera
Great video, but why don't you use your phone screen towards to you when you use active track?
Unfortunately DJI doesn't allow you to select the different cameras with active track. This may have been updated after recording this video and this comment lol
This is probably a dumb question but can you not mount the phone facing the other way and use the selfie camera to do the tracking, meaning you'd be able to see the phone screen to know it's set up correctly? Or are the selfie cameras not of high enough quality to do that?
No you can't unfortunately
What is the name of that Ziyhun stuff please ? Thanks for the video. Big up,to the community
It these here: geni.us/bBQJJ but you will want to order 2 of them so you can have enough to move between different tripods etc. Cheers
How is it balanced? Could not get mine balanced.
The tilt axis has to be balanced as best you can. Everything else is balanced like normal.
So, I'm interested in using active tracking to film solo dance videos, camera mounted on tripod. I'd like to track the subject at full length with their whole body in the frame. This would allow the dancers movements to dictate where the shot is. My worry is the Ronin seems to put subjects in the centre of the (phone) frame. This might chop off feet/lower body. Can you offset the camera angle compared to the phone angle or should I just shoot from a bit further back and crop in post? Any ideas if the active tracking would be useful in my intended scenario? Thanks!
Actually it could be! Once the Ronin SC is tracking you can use the joystick to move the camera around and frame your subject the way you want (whole body) and from then on the Ronin SC and your phone will try and keep the subject framed that way!
@@JakeSloan Thanks for the reply Jake! That sounds promising. So one tracks a subject then you can fine tune the camera position with the joystick afterwards? Cool!
Hi Jake. I just can get my Ronan Sc to balance for active track with my iPhone XR on top. Is there something I'm missing.
which way are you having difficulty balancing? I know for me I can't get the tilt axis balanced very well with the phone on top just because the load is so weird. I lower it to where the center of gravity is on the low side but it is balanced as best I can from front to back. I hope that helps!
Jake Sloan hi Jake. Thanks so much for the reply. I'll try your way and c where we end up. There got to be a sweet spot there somewhere
Thanks for the advice it really appreciated. I really enjoy your channel's great and helpful content. Thanks again.
You’re welcome, Let me know how it goes!
Obrigado
Cheers
4:58 So I’m a little confused about what happens when you hit the home button. Does it keep tracking even when the Ronin app is in the background?
If that’s true, can you set up active track and then switch your phone to a camera app (Moment, Filmic Pro, etc.) and start recording and it keeps tracking? This would be super useful to get a different angle of the same tracking sequence.
Has anyone tried using a smartphone as the main camera with this gimbal? I can think of a few times that would be really useful for my workflow. Specifically when I need good audio for a lightweight, mobile shot. I would consider mounting my mixpre3, my phone, and a microphone (still well under the 2kg max payload) and then I wouldn’t need a bag or anything. Totally self-contained lightweight gimbal. Not something I need that often, but when I need it it would be awesome.
Thoughts on a setup like that, anyone? And does anyone know if the phone can record while tracking?
It does not but I think we discussed this yesterday on the live stream. Hopefully I answered you!
Yep, thanks for all that you do! If you ever happen to try that mixpre + smartphone + mic on the Weebill S or Ronin SC, let me know please!
Does the app not allow using the front facing camera? Seems like it would be so much easier to set up and monitor when using solo if it would use the front facing camera
It does not unfortunately
I have the Ronin SC and have been struggling with it. The biggest issue is using the mount and a phone. I have successfully balanced it without the phone and mount. I assume the correct way is to have the phone and the mount on the camera and then balance it. The problem I think is the constant rebalancing as the weight will be different when I want to use it without the phone mounted. I did try with some luck by locking one of the motors, but I don't think the Ronin liked it. Any suggestions?
Yes if you want to use it with active track you need to balance it with the phone on top of the camera. If you want to use it without the phone (not using active track) you will need to balance it that way (without the phone) basically any time you change the setup a lot weight wise you will need to rebalance the gimbal.
@@JakeSloan sounds good. The biggest frustration came with learning how to balance it. Now knowing how to do so, it should be pretty straight ahead. Thanks for the great videos and your help!
I have a video showing how to balance releasing Wednesday. It’s def a learning curve but it gets easier!!! Hang in there and soon it will be second nature
Thanks a lot for the great video, quick question, when phone is mounted, the tilt axis is very low, so it hits the back part around pan axis. When using the mobile to check how well is your balance,, it shows tilt axis not balanced, is that normal? We don't use that option while doing phone mount and just do motor calibration?
This is normal when putting the phone on top
@@JakeSloan Thanks for clarifying 😀
Hello Jake, your video has provided me some incredibly useful information. Thank you. I also really liked your intro with your name on it, would you like to share how you did that? Thank you in advance.
Thanks Moses! I'll put together a video about how I did the handwriting intro soon. It took me a bit to figure it out lol but I really like it since it makes it absolutely personal since it is actually my handwriting! Cheers
@@JakeSloan Thank you. I am confident that your viewers would enjoy that tutorial of yours.
There's an old fisherman called RodAngles on RUclips and he has all what you can do plus zooming in. How does he do it? I would love to find out if you know. Great video btw.
I'll have to look him up and see!
@@JakeSloan yes...his fishing channel is called RodsAngleUK...all his videos uses auto gimbals...Im sure he's not got someone operating it because the camera's is sometimes over water, and no wife or friend is going to stand in water for hours. Also he doesn't wear any wirst bands for infrared. Also his AI is smart enough to pan out when he picks his rod up and captures his whole fishing rod and him, so it's better than face recognition. That band around his wrist is a leather thing that goes over his finger to protect it when casting his rod.
Hi! Thanks for the video. Do you know how good is the tracking while shooting a single person in a crowded street?
Not great. It will get confused pretty quickly
What is a cheap DSLR gimbal which u can track with? I rent the weebill S before for 1 month and it was a good gimbal but idk if u can track with it. The DJI Ronin seems like a good gimbal too but what would i need to track with it, only this transmitter? Greetings from germany
The ronin sc is probably the cheapest
At what maximum distance from the camera can a person move to be successfully tracked?
No idea but I have done it 25-30 ft away in good lighting
Hi Jake cant you use the front camera like mounting the phone holder the other way around? This would make it much easier to frame yourself.
Unfortunately not at this time. I’m hoping DJI will add that option in the future.
@@JakeSloan ok fair enough thanks
This would be killer, and all by itself, would convince me to buy the Ronin SC immediately. I use a DJI Osmo Pocket this way, and it’s great, but the quality isn’t as good as my EOS R, plus you can’t use the Osmo Pocket’s wireless adaptor (to allow me to lasso myself on my phone whilst in the field) and a wireless mic at the same time.
Can you active track a speaker on a stage who is 75 feet away?
No that would be too far away
Not easier to move the phone with the lcd towars you?
you cannot use the front facing camera unfortunately
Quick question. I just got this gimbal literally four hours ago and I'm watching a series of videos. By the way this is one of the best ones. So I've seen a few videos where people melt their phones on top. I get that part but my question is why do you not flip the
Cell phone around so you can see yourself?
the app did not allow you to select which camera you could use for tracking. It would only use the main forward facing camera
Can't seem to get the camera to balance with addition of the phone holder and iPhone xs to use active track successfully. Any suggestions? Using the A7iii, 28mm f2 lens and small rig cage.
Which axis are you struggling with?
The tilt.
When I balance the tilt with the A7iii and the phone I only balance it so that it doesn't tilt forward or backward. It has to be so far down that it is really difficult to get the tilt to where it will not be top heavy but that is ok since it doesn't need to tilt much in active track mode. Maybe I can do a video on this soon
That’s definitely a video I would love to see and lacking on RUclips right now.
Appreciate your prompt responses. Enjoy your videos!
Does that little bar that holds both the phone and mic come with the kit?
Nope but it’s linked in the description
My gimble shakes violently because it's so top heavy with my phone, so it's not going to work for me it looks like no one is mentioning this in all of their videos
I never had an issue with that or I would have said something
Did you enjoy your trip to scotland ?
Ive been there several times but this is in Alaska where I live
HELP have a Problems it does not work my camera sony A7iii 28-70mm f3,5 and Iphone 7 wear too heavy disorders tilt motor gimbal weakness . ???? !!!!!!!
I’ve used almost that exact setup and provided the tilt arm is low enough it works for me if the rest of the gimbal is balanced.
I just ordered RSC2 base model ( without Pro combo pack), which does not come with Raven eye. So would I able to do Active Tracking with Raven eye?
yes you will need raven eye to active track
@@JakeSloan oh okay.
@@JakeSloan oh okay.
Do you have to use autofocus for active track? Or will the DJI app adjust... I'm so confused lol
you can use it or you can set manual focus and leave it
Jake, thanks for the video! Question- how does focus work? Is the App driving the focus, the Sony, or you just set the aperture to maintain focus? Without a forward-facing screen, how do you know that you're in focus and the content you're capturing is usable?
I use the auto focus on my Sony cameras which is fantastic. I set the Fstop the shutter speed and let the camera pick the iso. Sony’s autofocus is really really amazing now with face detection. It locks on and is super accurate.
Jake Sloan I feel like a fool asking, since as you answer it I remember that’s why I bought the Sony! Thanks!
No problem!
Great video thanks, exactly what I wanted to know. I use a canon m50 with old c-mount lenses, so manual focus, do you think activetrack would work in this instance? Any help appreciated thank you
With this it would since the gimbal uses the camera on the phone to track
@@JakeSloan Thanks a lot that's great.
Can you smooth out the settings so it doesn’t jump as fast?
yes you can select between fast and slow track speeds
@@JakeSloan shot in the dark, but have you seen any one use this to track someone doing sports? I'm a kiteboarder, and want to film myself... but can't find anyone using a gimbal to film something thats a bit more high action. Great video by the way, watched a bunch and yours was the most helpful.
Jake, Are you using the Rode Wireless Go to provide all the sound for this video. I've been going to buy one but wasn't sure how good it was.
Thanks , Mike
I am using the wireless go for this video and I like it quite a bit. You can hear more examples of how it sounds here: ruclips.net/video/mHEA2rK5QtA/видео.html that video was recorded with the Wireless go entirely as well. Cheers!!
Thanks for your reply Jake