DragBoss Garage Thursday Night Live Chat With Darin Morgan, Who Cares About Flow Numbers
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- This is a live chat Interview with Darin Morgan, He has 36 plus years of racing experience, engine, and cylinder head development. He worked for Larry Morgan for 6 years, he also worked for Bob Glidden. He worked for 24 years for Reher-Morrison, as head of their induction, and cylinder head department. He now joins Tony Bischoff, and the crew at BES, Bischoff Racing engines. He will talk about the basics of cylinder head flow. Talk about why everyone mentions port flow, when ever cylinder heads are compared, or discussed. Talk about what is important about port volume. Valve shrouding, moving valve locations. Things you should look for a set of aftermarket cylinder heads. Boundaries, harmonics, it will get into topics from basic to advanced. DRCE Drag Race Competition Engine. What is interested on the heads. Maybe not all at this initial chat. Thanks you Darin Morgan and Tony Bischoff, and the team at BES..Stay tuned.
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A HUGE shout out to both Tim and Darin for this. Darin is awesome. I watch every webinar he gives. You can’t pay for this knowledge.Thank you both for this.
Couldn't agree more! Great info..
Any gearhead who is serious in regard to building a responsive and powerful engine should watch this podcast over and over. I wish I could have caught this live and asked some questions that have bugged me for years.
The Larry King of Sandusky does it once again!
Larry King, lol. Thanks rotorr, this is so much info, I already started to listen to it again. He will be back. We could have talked for an easy 3 hrs, more in store
@@DragBoss351Cleveland...Tim, I also missed the live podcast. Hell would have to freeze over to cause me to miss such a highly anticipated event. There was definitely a chill in the air that night 😉. I’ll just have to put my questions on hold until the next big show. Always great stuff for all levels of experience.
@@danielwilson6665 surprised you did not know it. Made an announcement on the community section and multiple announcements. But next time will make sure you know. You can listen to it while your getting the T Bird cleaned up.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland ...Tim I actually did know it, but...
Now I’m supposed to make up a lot of excuses for dropping the ball but friends don’t lie to friends so I will speak the truth.
The Sun got in my eyes ✌🏻.
BTW, the pace car photos will be coming your way soon and I do apologize for the delay
No worries at all just want to bring you back to reality, as sometimes you drift. 😉
Wow! Wow! A great interview Tim! Darin is just extremely interesting, so much experience and knowledge! I watch his channel, and it is really informative. The two of you could have gone on for a few more hours, I would have kept listening.
Thanks man, I know we could have done that easy. He will be back, I'm glad you got some useful information, it will get way better, trust me. Don't forget to subscribe. Thanks
This is heaven on earth!
Darin knows his heads. great to listen to from him easily understood.
Darin is smart and extremely experienced .
I'm in 3rd wacth darin morgan a master time to go to school again and again .Thankyou tim for your time and getting a master to teach he's experience thankyou peace
Your welcomed Wayne. I have checking out bits and pieces. I will put it on, in the DragBoss Garage today.
Thanks Tim and Darin. Good stuff.
Your welcome. He will be back, with so much more. Stay tuned
Awesome 👍🏼, some good all round pointers in various situations there....... it’s all abit of maths at the end🏁
Thanks for watching and supporting my channel. Hope you got some good infor.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland always👍🏼was good technical stuff. Man I’m just old School, 4V baby 😎🏁, nothing too new & exotic otherwise it becomes easy🤷🏼♂️
in realistic terms just love 4V na stuff between the 550-700hp range, it’s badass for 50yr architecture 😎🏁
@@69JANKS I’m an too old school, that is why I mess with these old parts. Lots of great technical info, I will be listening again. Turn it up
@@DragBoss351Cleveland 👍🏼🏁
@@69JANKS ...AGREED, without a doubt !!!
Thank you for sharing your abundance of knowledge. Cool to see someone mention the Barra, I have one up at BES now!
Cool deal. I texted him about it. Glad your here. Don’t forget to subscribe Big
Darin is awesome. He's really just all about the love of it. He could gone on forever. Thanks guys i learned a lot. Watched it twice and took notes.
Thanks Bobby, I’ve listen to it a couple times also. Always getting something different. I was talking to him the other day. He will be back with a special series. Maybe intake development. Thank for watching
Tim, Joe Mondello did Don Garlits heads
Pontiacs used more duration on exhaust cuz of horseshoe bent exhaust port, from 1955 to 1982. Mac McKellar designed the cams 8-10 more duration.
I did not know that. What a innovator he was.
Fantastic interview with a genius!
Without a doubt...
Thank you Tim and Darin. Please take your time on explaining. I'm like Darin, I love seating and talking about this stuff. It's a passion.
Yes lots to understand. Your welcome and glad you got to enjoy it and learn from him.
Thanks so much for this Darren this is awesome I could watch this stuff for ever.
Dean, I will send the word. Me too, he will be back soon….
Another GREAT Interview Tim!!!.. Thank you Darin for sharing your knowledge and Tim for setting these up.. Keep em Coming!!!!
Your most welcome. Hard to get everyone’s questions answered. Glad your here
Thank you Darin and DragBiss I am still an FE lover! Darin I didn’t waste a minute of what you sheared with me 15 years ago.
FE, fast engine, these engines fascinate me also, with a rich history, and early Racing. Have a couple buddies that love these engines. Stay tuned
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Ah sweet! I’m elated to hear that.
I love my silly 390 and feel lots of old tricks are forgotten about FE’s & other V8 logic doesn’t sync well when applied to an FE.
Fe are some of the best performers. The only think I dislike is the intake design. My buddy loves his 390s, better than 427.
I am watching your livestream from last night Darin Morgan is a genus,I am blown away with all this info, great job Tim by the way where is Rusty👍
Thank you so much. I agree it did the same thing to me. I will have to delisted to it too. Rusty was working on a few things and could not make it. We are going to do another live chat in the near future. Glad this chat was informative for you
Excellent...thanks for sharing my question and much appreciated on answer....
Your most Welcome Mike. Try to answer all we can. He will be back.
Awesome interview. Would love to hear more.
He will be back that is for sure, thanks, Don't forget to subscribe.
Back in the old days Richard Maskin always just raised and straightend the ports as much as possible, it worked!
another great vidy from darin
The low and mid lifts are passed through twice, peak lift only once per cycle, ports have to work everywhere.
Yes Darin and I have talked about that before. Thanks for watching and commenting
Thank you Darrin for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks Scott for watching. Please subscribe and share. He will be back possibly 12/3. Working on that now.
Darin Morgans You Tube channel, Subsribe, and share. Thanks Guys for all the help, he will be back...Stay Tuned.
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Thanks Darin loved it
Will pass it on Randy. Please subscribe and share so you won’t miss anything. Darin, Will be back.
Love your show to. Your both awesome. Keep up the great programs
Trying Randy stay tuned.
Excellent Tim, keep em comin' man. Love this !
Thanks man, I have just begun….😉
I hate I couldn't stay on during the live! Getting caught up on it today! Great stuff
I figured you were busy. Darin addressed your Hammer heads, said 900 hp will be easy. Your goal of 750, should be a drop in the bucket, I bet you hit 800 right on the first pull. He gave us a lot of experience, and answered a ton of questions. thanks for being there.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Thanks, So i just finished watching it front to end... This was the best Live Chat I have ever seen Tech wise! Thank you Tim for doing this... On my setup I still think the cam is the limiting factor Trust me I would love to break 800hp... but I want Tons of torque to launch Casper!
Thank you Andy. I agree, he explained things so well it blows me away. I was on the edge of me seat. I’m glad he mentioned the hammer heads, they are the ultimate. I still think you will be making close to 800, and cam may be limiting factor. You got a good base so stick with and see how it goes. Ole Casper will be seeing ghosts when you drop the hammer down. Glad your here, thanks for the support.
Thanks!
Thanks Rob, we appreciate it. I will take care of Darin
Outstanding Content! Best I have ever Seen!
If you like it, don’t forget to subscribe as way more in store. Thanks
@@DragBoss351Cleveland I subscribed over a month ago.
@@derrelcarter9401 Thanks for supporting my channel. more on the way.
Cool beans thank you
One thing Earl Wade told me decades ago:
"The crankshaft don't know who's name is on the valvecover!!"
Weather it's a bowtie, oval or pentstar.....it's all airflow and physics.
GREAT info!!!!
So where can I find a copy of this secret "Spreadsheet" I've heard about?
That is true. Not sure what the secret Spreadsheet is.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland … I tried to discuss this very same topic with one of my Cleveland crankshafts recently. Just try to imagine my level of frustration when the crank remained totally silent
@@DragBoss351Cleveland … That’s why it’s a secret. A well kept secret for sure 😉.
@@danielwilson6665 sometimes silence is golden
@@DragBoss351Cleveland ………………………………..and the beat goes on 😉
Thanks for this invaluable information and answering questions honestly "I don't know" "I need more information". I'm working on putting a Cleveland head on a 4 cylinder Jeep engine and am gaining bits of information that is helping in my decision making. Thanks, Jim Ford Highway 101 Rod and Custom
Thanks Jim. Got your email need time read and reply. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas.
At approximately 1:10 into the replay, Darin mentioned the relationship in design of nearly all Pro Stock heads to the Cleveland 4-V heads and how the non-Cleveland heads have evolved over the decades.
That’s one topic I’ve been talking about for 40 years....but nobody listens. THANKS DARIN MORGAN !!!
Now I don’t feel like a total moron. Just a partial moron 😁
Yes glad he said that as I have heard that too. Many people did not believe it. But there it is. Right on you tube at DBG.
Right on DW 👍🏼🏁
Awesome video......must get the chevy camp on your channel. We need a counterpoint.
I finally got finished watching this, very interesting. I never met Darrin but worked with Kip from 1995 to 98, we became great friends, I learned a lot from him and miss talking with him, he often talked about Darrin (and Brad). I think the Briggs and Stratton block Darrin was talking about, I ended up getting for a friend who was playing with Jr dragsters at the time. We were cleaning out the shop to move and came across it and Kip said "oh that was something Darrin was working on, take it if you want it".
I will have to mention that to him. He will probably get a kick out of it. So cool to hear this. He is going to be on live again tentatively 10/8/2021. Will keep you posted.
Tim, so sorry to have missed your live chat with Darin last evening. I just listened to it in its entirety. Amazing information and detail! A couple of brief comments. The word "combination" was prevalent throughout your conversation. THAT is the key to success with anything that is comprised of more than one component. When a compatible and symbiotic relationship is achieved, success follows. To the laymen out there, don't be scared off by your thoughts of not being smart enough and not understanding some of the technical aspects and jargon within a particular discipline. We have experts like Darin that not only know and can explain with clarity the technicalities of flow, V.E., quench, ratios, etc. but can also put that knowledge into practice. That's why the rest of us have to be just smart enough to call on a true expert to keep from messing up. I learned that lesson from a well-known automatic transmission expert, Gil Younger, the founder of "Transgo" in California. He race-modified a Ford FMX tranny for me back in 1971 and it still works flawlessly. Previously, I had two other transmission shops try their hand at it with no success. Gil told me some really good auto transmission techs can do rebuilds but don't have the slightest idea of how the most complex inner workings of a transmission function. He said when you find someone who knows the science and theory behind something AND can act on it you've found a true expert. One last thing...That Wright Brother's piston ring of Darin's symbolizes ingenuity as it once was AND the ingenuity that YOU are helping to recreate. Looking forward to the future, Tim.
Bill thanks so much for the kind words and words of wisdom. So much to be said about matching parts, not only more reliable and compatible, but organized together. You get it. Yes combination was used throughout. It’s like putting a puzzle together. When pieces are missing hard to predict, and experts like to be sure. So it is hard to answer particular questions on broad description and lack of info. Especially with time and media constraints. When I used to work in a transmission shop we used Gill Younger. I am more of a technician, not an expert in function. Some guys do have the touch. I remember his pic with brush cut on the outside of the box. Yes sir, I remember r and r transmissions, and going to school at night at the same time. Trying to figure what I can do, as wrenching was not going to cut it. I also was blown away by the piston ring also, what it represents. Almost an analogy with pro stock racing, in the early years, ingenuity, determination, failure, and success. Thank you for the kind words, and that you see, something like that in me. I am honored. You said you wanted to send me something, by email? Thpa351@gmail. Thanks Bill for being here and helping me build my channel. Stay tuned….
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Gil's haircut. Oh yeah! Gil was into Transcendental Meditation. I used to kid with him that his hair got that way by all the standing on his head. Good times!
Lol. Yes he had that square jaw and tough look. Almost looked like Mickey Thompson lol.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Tim, did you receive my email yesterday?
@@DragBoss351Cleveland ...Tim, have you ever known a professional, either in the medical field or automotive, that was truly brilliant at what they do, but when they tried to speak it was like listening to a moron ? Darins credentials are impeccable for sure and when it’s time to convey that wealth of knowledge, he is also a master orator which is especially important when dealing with precise technical information. Kinda like you, my friend 👍.
I haven’t washed a minute of what you told me Darin 15 yrs ago
Darin is the man, it makes things so easy to understand. Hell yeah
Sensible guy. I bet he can build a nice street engine, that probably doesn't rev too high.
Very sensible. Yep, he could the rpm range Andy where you want.
The only reason I do the bigger valve is that they biased the intake side to allow a bigger size.Blair Patrick is magician on the FE and we spent a lot of time working those intakes in and the exhaust just wanted out and it gets going so hard on the exhaust overlap is by virtue of the force. I did that in the 70s
Very cool roundy, I have a buddy that has two Blair Patrick motors, if you look back on my videos look for Weaks ford Country Garage, and you’ll see a bunch of FEs Let me know if you find it.
The secret is good swirl on the FE and don’t quote me. I found that out with my vacuum cleaner air bench.
I have heard many a tale about vacuum cleaner bench.
Wedge head big blocks and valve size matching all comes together with a 383 Mopar. It's a happy engine. All its bigger cousins are lazier and harder to tune. Mostly ditto the 390 FE. Once the FE gets bigger, the harder it gets to make it run well on the full street RPM range.
Have no experience with FE or Mopars. Didn’t think the ci made it harder to tune. You have been there. Thanks for sharing with us Broc.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Yeah, not tune as in make run, but tune as in make it finish first. You know a lot about valve shrouding and port velocity. That is what makes the BBC run as well as it does, it is not inherently under valved. And most of the motors you are showing us had scads of welding and machining work to get the flow into the chamber at the right angle and with the right velocity. Glidden was a master at that. Darin is too. Thanks for your sharing 😊
@brocluno6908 your welcome. Good to see you here. Hope all is well. I get what your saying. I do tired of hearing the cleveland is a copy of the bbc head. That is why I made that video, did you see it?
DragBoss Garage: Ford 351Cleveland Cylinder Head, Ain't No COPY Of The Big Block Chevy Head, Period.
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@@DragBoss351Cleveland Absolutely. Good machine shops have been handling motorcycle heads for decades and semi-hemi and porcupine heads were on motorcycle engines from the 1930's. The machine shops that got to rebuild these could see the advantages, so could the automotive design engineers. Were Glidden stepped up was showing how to make it work 4-in-a-row and with water jackets. That's juggling more variables than an MC engine ... 🙃
@brocluno6908 I never knew any of that. Great stuff. Yes a real juggling act for sure and successful at it. Machine shops are not like they used to be.
We also need a link to Darin's channel.
I love the FE, I have ported so much iron I can’t take an MRI, I just get it up to a 2.2 valve and 3.3 CSA in the head, then maul the intake to get the pinch the same. The flow will be 285 on the head, but bolt to the intake I have had it doing 225 fps and flow 300
Cool deal. Really wanted a high riser 427 one day. Always loved them engines. Sounds chips are flying. Not many will port iron any more.
My FE heads come up at 3.34 CSA 2.2 valves and work the intake to get the pinch the size it has to be . Consistent it will flow 300 at the carb, even though the head without the intake does 285.
What FE heads are you taking about Roundy?
It would be wise for Ford to hire guys like this to design their heads,,, Ford was smart to employ guys like Shelby and I hope they bring that knowledge forward
Lots of guys ford hired like Ernie Elliot and Robert Yates. Thanks j c
@1.35 Detonation simply put is... exploding the fuel vs. burning the fuel.
Sounds good nobody
2 thumb's up cuz thats all i have ,
Two thumbs is better than no thumbs, thanks Dave stay tuned
Do you know why a 340 Cid engine ( dodge ) with the X casting heads flow so efficiently. The only ones that come close are the 360 Cid J castings
No idea, but you ask Darin next Friday at 7pm. I always liked the 340 in a duster.
How do you find the live feed ?
DragBoss Garage Thursday Night Live Chat With Darin Morgan, Who Cares About Flow Numbers
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Ray Paquet and his stuff?
What do you think of the FE?
They are the basis for Ford high-performance, they made the path for racing, and kicked and Ferrari,Porsche’s ass back in the day
How about the overlap period on a turbo application not be any scavenging going on with that rotary exhaust restriction in the way .
Ask Darin next time he is on marc
Im not understanding what a wedge head is?
In line heads, with out cant.
Darren's busy building budget subwoofer amplifiers, or he better be :-)
He does enjoy his electronics. Can’t get any rpm from them.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland I just need base amps😎
SBC = Perfect. :D
They sure are. Just like the Cleveland
Good Grief
Must be open mic night at the Comedy Store 😁.
Perfect Bow tie = Knot 😉
there was a question about the Chrysler Polysphere canted valve engine of the 1950's, there was one at the Amsoil engine challenge, video link ruclips.net/video/6WL35IBm2ws/видео.html
Them guys werent dummies back then.
Hell no they were not.