Thanks for the short review. I agree, this IDE still have lot of question without answers. Especially woking with git which is different and annoying with all these 'pull & push'... Really what's this if I want to commit my changes?
When VSCode can be set up within literally minutes (all the plugins, themes, etc. too), it seems like it's going to be a hard sell for JetBrains to really get developers to try to switch over, unless they can produce something that drastically improves the developer experience over VSCode... but even then, VSCode won't take long to catch up 😆I'm also yet to use a JetBrains tool that doesn't suck all of the RAM of my machine either... 🤔Either way though, a bit of competition will only make both tools better, so I'm excited to see how this develops in the future!
Looks nice for an early preview, but for now I'll stick with Idea / Webstorm for development. But fleet can be a small tool when needed and when it allow plugins.
nope i'll stick with vim, and emacs when i need a powerful IDE. Most of the feature's of these new editors are just adding something to my config files anyways.
i think comparing any Full IDE with VsCode is a bit misleading to say the least. the appeal of an IDE is to get full feature out of the box, without relaying on third party plugin. this makes the experience and support more cohesive. VsCode on the other hand, is out of the box just a "Text Editor". all that third party plugin that makes it "looks like" an IDE. If you want to compare fleet, compare it with the Og Visual Studio. i've been using jetbrains product for years now. but before that i was using VisualStudio IDE for some years too, and at-least for what i experience, Jetbrains bring a lot more to the table, while being a lot more cheaper too.
Everyone says VSC is a Text Editor, but it's a lightweight IDE. That's its design, that's its purpose. Hear me out: build + launch options, plugins, terminal integration, SVC, and language support OOTB alone justify it as an IDE. These are not plugins though plugins do extend these features. Also, MS specifically developed VSC to be a web-based IDE and only later pushed it to desktop with Electron. I don't think MS would have any interest in building an online text editor as there are already tons of FOSS options available to date, but there aren't a lot of web-based IDEs which have a more obscure use case like professional development on a remote machine or container. Edit: Also, official builds of VSC that have access to extensions will ship with some MS extended feature extensions OOTB to make it feel like an even more straightforward IDE. These extensions are not available on open-source builds like VSCodium.
@@VincePolston I was joking hahaha. Is very ergonomic and 100x more extensible then Vscode-like IDE's. Also 1000x harder to learn. But in my case it paid off.
@@VincePolston I’m surprised you haven’t heard of it honestly. But I’ve used neovim, VS code, atom, and other text editors in the past. But honestly I think when fleet plugin support is out I might consider using it, a lot of the problems people have had with it so far will be fixed by plugin support.
@@hex697 Always down to learn more! Yeah I could see it being a good product once plugin support is out. Time will tell! I've only really used VSCode. Sublime back way way *way* back when.
Another question should answer your question: Why does JetBrains release a preview? Maybe they want to create a hype. Or maybe they want people to review it and give feedback like this video.
You lost me at the part where you said that JetBrains is known for its quality products. Why on earth is that a line that *everyone* says when talking about Fleet. Also, why am I here? Why did RUclips recommend me a *web developers'* 1k views video?! And why should anyone care about what editor you're using?!?
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Will you be changing to Fleet? Let me know
Since it was show i've been waiting for use, but is not what i expected and also is really slow in my computer so for the momement i'll keep vs code.
@@Jaanpablo same! Don’t see a reason to change right now. 🍻
May change when a Vim plugin is available, it's not of much use right now if I can't use Vim shortcuts
Nah i am fine with vs code for now
@@Jaanpablo the same for me it was slow on windows, but running flawlessly in mac
It does look clean, maybe in a few years it'd be worth considering.
Possibly. I'd like to see how it performs once they unlock plugins.
I will stick with VSCode for heavy web development stuff, and Notepad++ for lightweight text file editor.
Notepad++ man that takes me back!
Thanks for the short review. I agree, this IDE still have lot of question without answers. Especially woking with git which is different and annoying with all these 'pull & push'... Really what's this if I want to commit my changes?
When VSCode can be set up within literally minutes (all the plugins, themes, etc. too), it seems like it's going to be a hard sell for JetBrains to really get developers to try to switch over, unless they can produce something that drastically improves the developer experience over VSCode... but even then, VSCode won't take long to catch up 😆I'm also yet to use a JetBrains tool that doesn't suck all of the RAM of my machine either... 🤔Either way though, a bit of competition will only make both tools better, so I'm excited to see how this develops in the future!
Fleet is not gonna be free.. so all we gonna see is rickroll all over the place when we open the fleet... XD
Looks nice for an early preview, but for now I'll stick with Idea / Webstorm for development. But fleet can be a small tool when needed and when it allow plugins.
The design is nice but for now that’s al it has … expected more
Right? Same here. I think maybe the public preview should have had more features
nope i'll stick with vim, and emacs when i need a powerful IDE. Most of the feature's of these new editors are just adding something to my config files anyways.
i think comparing any Full IDE with VsCode is a bit misleading to say the least.
the appeal of an IDE is to get full feature out of the box, without relaying on third party plugin. this makes the experience and support more cohesive.
VsCode on the other hand, is out of the box just a "Text Editor". all that third party plugin that makes it "looks like" an IDE.
If you want to compare fleet, compare it with the Og Visual Studio.
i've been using jetbrains product for years now. but before that i was using VisualStudio IDE for some years too,
and at-least for what i experience, Jetbrains bring a lot more to the table, while being a lot more cheaper too.
Everyone says VSC is a Text Editor, but it's a lightweight IDE. That's its design, that's its purpose. Hear me out: build + launch options, plugins, terminal integration, SVC, and language support OOTB alone justify it as an IDE. These are not plugins though plugins do extend these features. Also, MS specifically developed VSC to be a web-based IDE and only later pushed it to desktop with Electron. I don't think MS would have any interest in building an online text editor as there are already tons of FOSS options available to date, but there aren't a lot of web-based IDEs which have a more obscure use case like professional development on a remote machine or container. Edit: Also, official builds of VSC that have access to extensions will ship with some MS extended feature extensions OOTB to make it feel like an even more straightforward IDE. These extensions are not available on open-source builds like VSCodium.
I’m waiting for year to Vs code “Id” and “Class” suggestion, only want this little thing that webstorm do very well
well the vscode binaries most people probably use isn't actually open source
Oh. I use Neovim. What's VScode or Fleet?
Had not heard of Neovim before now. You like it?
@@VincePolston I was joking hahaha. Is very ergonomic and 100x more extensible then Vscode-like IDE's. Also 1000x harder to learn. But in my case it paid off.
@@VincePolston I’m surprised you haven’t heard of it honestly. But I’ve used neovim, VS code, atom, and other text editors in the past. But honestly I think when fleet plugin support is out I might consider using it, a lot of the problems people have had with it so far will be fixed by plugin support.
@@rickhackro oh lol no worries!
@@hex697 Always down to learn more! Yeah I could see it being a good product once plugin support is out. Time will tell! I've only really used VSCode. Sublime back way way *way* back when.
No swift support :(
Why would someone write free plugins for a paid app?
Fleet circumvents licensing issues with Microsoft's proprietary VSCode extensions and licenses.
The Fact that there is no support for dart is a downside. Because flutter devs wil not use it.
I just downloaded it and I can't even get it to run lolol
Both are just editors, why everyone keeps telling vs code or fleet as an IDE
Do some research mate
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Nice Vid!
Thanks!
Wierd that groovy a competition to kotlin the in house language of jetbrains has not received a single feature
Why are you comparing a software product in early preview with software that has been out in years?
Another question should answer your question: Why does JetBrains release a preview? Maybe they want to create a hype. Or maybe they want people to review it and give feedback like this video.
He needs to views and jet brains needs the hype
@@DEZK90 hype was already made a while ago they’re releasing it to get user feedback.
Jetbrains Fleet, soon to be known to everyone as Jetbrains Flop
wtf the toolbox took you 300mb, in 2050 an application will require you to buy their own personalized hardware and your left eye
VScode isn't entirely open-source though ..
Oh great another paid resource hog from jet brains that is not better in any way than its competition
You lost me at the part where you said that JetBrains is known for its quality products.
Why on earth is that a line that *everyone* says when talking about Fleet.
Also, why am I here? Why did RUclips recommend me a *web developers'* 1k views video?! And why should anyone care about what editor you're using?!?
also, why are you commenting ?🤣
I once saw a guy trying to code on libreoffice