@barstoolpreacher7851 Full Force is basically what True Force is, which is included in your G923. Logitech's True Force is only featured in G923 and G Pro, and Fanatec's Full Force is only featured in Clubsport DD and DD+. G Pro and Clubsport are both around 12nm FFB. In G923, True Force is very limited by the gear system, but on G Pro, as everyone who used it will tell you, that feature was pushed to its full potential. For Full Force, however, not a lot of people can get their hands on the CS because of massive shipping issue, and it has higher starting price compared to others in the segment. And when they do, Full Force doesn't even work, while True Force has been implemented in many top racing sim games already.
Most customers says that logitech is way to overpriced and few buys pro kit. You can buy a simagic bundle or asetek bundle for same price and that premium kits and logitech isn't categorised as premium bundle, it doesn't even have aftermarket wheels. So logitech isn't a threat against fanatec. Fanatec killed themself with commercial and sponsors that went way over budget and way to many product that cost to much to develope and shortage on supplies. Moza is copying all fanatec products and taken a lot of their market.
@@snippidippi easy to offer same price when you don't need to pay for PlayStation compatibility or features like Trueforce. Extra rim is a luxury but the G Pro Wheel is frequently sold out so they're not going to devote resources for luxuries because the main offering should always take priority.
@@barstoolpreacher7851 True Force is an extra feedback feature. Reviews said it's much better on the G Pro and now Fanatec is copying it but calling it Full Force. Stay away from Fanatec though, they are terrible and are now close to bankruptcy. Lots of bricked hardware, shipping nightmares, malfunctioning software and awful customer service that literally take over a week to respond to an email.
Enjoying my DD+ on Ps5 for now on F1, GT7 and ACC...uncertain what the future will bring for console users and my biggest concern is if the next games will support Fanatec wheels!?
I have bought so much stuff from Fanatec... but I severly dislike their communication company-wise. Other than that nitpick their gear seems pretty good... except certain errors in my opinion like selling a DD wheel with a plastic quick/remove or snap-on.
The REAL loss is all the people who potentially are going to lose their jobs. When there is a market gap it usually gets filled so I wouldn't worry about that.
Honestly it shouldnt be a thing to pay for a wheel just cause it has a ps plug. Gt7 is not that good of a game when you have asseto, iracing and forza. 3 major games vs 1 for console. My vote is, fk the console and stick to pc racing games. It sucks that itz a thing, but ppl need to stop paying dor these stupid monopolies
@@Flat4K sounds like you got the solution. Care to share that to fanatec so they dont have to go bankrupt? My point is, an entire company shouldnt have to suffer over 1 game. Its not even 1 eco system, just 1 game. Every other game on ps can be played on pc or xbox. Gt7 is the only one your paying for. Thats being narrow minded? Haha. You must be living on cloud 9 with that mentality.
@ardelean1gaming598 has anyone here been actually following the fanatec insolvency saga because it has nothing to do with playstation compatability it is about overspending on a corporate headquarters, the relatively new German STARUG corporate law, and customer service. There is nothing in there about playstation why are you all making this nonexistent connection?
You underestimate the size of the GT player base. I would guess it’s larger than any other racing game. It might be larger than all current racing games combined
Logitech is such a threat to Fanatec that they had to nerf the GPro Wheel so it doesn't outshine the upcoming Full Force feature.
What is this full force feature you talk of ? I'm currently a g923 user and wish to narrow down the dd choice available.
@barstoolpreacher7851 Full Force is basically what True Force is, which is included in your G923. Logitech's True Force is only featured in G923 and G Pro, and Fanatec's Full Force is only featured in Clubsport DD and DD+. G Pro and Clubsport are both around 12nm FFB.
In G923, True Force is very limited by the gear system, but on G Pro, as everyone who used it will tell you, that feature was pushed to its full potential. For Full Force, however, not a lot of people can get their hands on the CS because of massive shipping issue, and it has higher starting price compared to others in the segment. And when they do, Full Force doesn't even work, while True Force has been implemented in many top racing sim games already.
Most customers says that logitech is way to overpriced and few buys pro kit. You can buy a simagic bundle or asetek bundle for same price and that premium kits and logitech isn't categorised as premium bundle, it doesn't even have aftermarket wheels. So logitech isn't a threat against fanatec. Fanatec killed themself with commercial and sponsors that went way over budget and way to many product that cost to much to develope and shortage on supplies. Moza is copying all fanatec products and taken a lot of their market.
@@snippidippi easy to offer same price when you don't need to pay for PlayStation compatibility or features like Trueforce. Extra rim is a luxury but the G Pro Wheel is frequently sold out so they're not going to devote resources for luxuries because the main offering should always take priority.
@@barstoolpreacher7851 True Force is an extra feedback feature. Reviews said it's much better on the G Pro and now Fanatec is copying it but calling it Full Force. Stay away from Fanatec though, they are terrible and are now close to bankruptcy. Lots of bricked hardware, shipping nightmares, malfunctioning software and awful customer service that literally take over a week to respond to an email.
Enjoying my DD+ on Ps5 for now on F1, GT7 and ACC...uncertain what the future will bring for console users and my biggest concern is if the next games will support Fanatec wheels!?
I have bought so much stuff from Fanatec... but I severly dislike their communication company-wise. Other than that nitpick their gear seems pretty good... except certain errors in my opinion like selling a DD wheel with a plastic quick/remove or snap-on.
i went Moza with there KS wheel and am very very happy with what i have r9 is the way to go
I was just thinking about buying a DDpro for my PS5 it’s my 1st wheel. Should I just get thrustmaster now?
Hard to say, brother. -R
Glad I got a full Fanatec setup right before they went under
The REAL loss is all the people who potentially are going to lose their jobs. When there is a market gap it usually gets filled so I wouldn't worry about that.
Good Video - I share your view.
Great video!
Hey Man I’m looking to get a Mclaren GT3 sim as my first and only wheel for Christmas is there cheaper and high quality?
No, but do you already have the base? You need more than just a wheel.
i really wish fanatec survives the loss
whoever it is... Playstation's 300€ price increase to a 400€ product (CSL DD -> GT DD Pro) is bollocks. That's x2 the price for compatibility
Xbox has been shafted would I be a fool to buy off Fanatec right now I can’t find anything better for the price
The video have some VICE news vibes or something, cool content btw.
Thank you brother. Always been a big fan of the stuff on Vox 😅 -R
You can’t been able to buy the Fanatec DD1 for Playstation for a couple of years now.
Not brand new, no. Still plenty second hand! -R
Fanatec isn't going out of business. Not at least for the next years. Who the hell is spreading this information?
Wait I thought PlayStation had access to more racing wheels this is just unacceptable. I hope that someone can save fanatec.
Update your Fanatec firmware now if I were you.
Fanatec will be back, stronger..
bought by BYD😂
sony should buy them
Stupid video in hindsight
Got you to click it though didn't I lad -R
@@Flat4K good game plan that, I hope ur not to srs abt this youtube thing
Honestly it shouldnt be a thing to pay for a wheel just cause it has a ps plug. Gt7 is not that good of a game when you have asseto, iracing and forza. 3 major games vs 1 for console. My vote is, fk the console and stick to pc racing games. It sucks that itz a thing, but ppl need to stop paying dor these stupid monopolies
Really narrow minded approach. I think PS should just be more inclusive and have more options. -R
GT7 is pretty damn amazing in VR with my DD Pro 8nm. I’ve used iRacing for years and the latest physics update for GT7 makes it a lot closer.
@@Flat4K sounds like you got the solution. Care to share that to fanatec so they dont have to go bankrupt?
My point is, an entire company shouldnt have to suffer over 1 game. Its not even 1 eco system, just 1 game. Every other game on ps can be played on pc or xbox. Gt7 is the only one your paying for. Thats being narrow minded? Haha. You must be living on cloud 9 with that mentality.
@ardelean1gaming598 has anyone here been actually following the fanatec insolvency saga because it has nothing to do with playstation compatability it is about overspending on a corporate headquarters, the relatively new German STARUG corporate law, and customer service. There is nothing in there about playstation why are you all making this nonexistent connection?
You underestimate the size of the GT player base. I would guess it’s larger than any other racing game. It might be larger than all current racing games combined