Seeing you sitting on the Stern of the Contessa must cause you to reminisce quite often of your ocean crossing. Its like your sitting on your Throne reigning as king over the seas. As your enjoy your adventurous life thoroughly, when I look at that short clip, it just put a huge smile on my face. I can understand what fuels your passion for boat building now after seeing that. BTW I completely understand why you got rid of that cockpit well and went with a pulpit mounted at the stern, makes perfect sense. And like you said, it gets you out of the spray zone.
I started using a speed handle/speeder wrench to remove screws in my boat projects after the drill/driver I used broke a screw off inside the hole. The cordless drivers apply the torque all at once, and sometimes that's enough to break the screw shank. The speed handle, a forgotten tool since the drill/drivers arrived, allow you to apply down force on the screw, which prevents rounding out the head, and also allows you to apply the torque gradually until the screw comes loose, which helps prevent the shank from breaking. I learned this as an airframes mechanic working on E-2 Hawkeyes in the U.S. Navy (the inspiration for the name "Max Rudder"). One of my frequent jobs was to remove screws that had been rounded out by electronics technicians :) .
Great advice. I find that the SS have a greater tendency to snap but all steel becomes hardened (brittle) the more you torque it. I would absolutely use a speed handle screw driver if I had one (had one years ago but it no longer with me). In fact, I would love to take one on the voyage as it wouldn't suffer from a lack of power in an emergency.
0% junk food, 100% junk rig : best ratio ever 😇 It's really starting looking like a boat now and that's a great incentive to keep on this "time to crack on" pace and tempo. Mrs Rover earns respect.
I used bronze Robertson screws when building a wooden runabout a few years back. Often called “square head” in New Zealand. In conjunction with a drill driver they’re quick, don’t cam out like Phillips, and the bit self centres unlike straight slot. The slightly tapered fitting means the bit doesn’t jamb in the head of the screw under stress, unlike straight bits like torx can do when using a soft metal like bronze. They are the best for boat construction. Thanks Canada! : )
I think a Canadian also invented the zipper. We leave spacecraft and fighter jets to our southern neighbours. lol Thanks for the comment. How's you build coming along?
Hi Alan. So close, so close. I keep finding more small jobs that need doing. I guess that’s the final fit out on a sail boat. However the list is almost down to zero. Right now I’m lashing the trampolines on and touch wood, that’s about it. Rig done, sails made. As soon as the weather fines up I’ll be having a mast raising (on land) to see what needs adjusting. Then it’s just put the name on! : ) Now I have no excuses. I’ll just have to put those videos together I’ve been telling everyone I would. 😅
Outstanding episode Alan and Mrs Wave Rover! The constant camber is a thing of beauty my friend. The decision to do away with the footwell so fits the bluewater mission of this owners Wave Rover 650. Thanks for taking us along....
I've decided to remove the screws entirely from my plywood boat projects. The point you made at the beginning of the videos is as valid for stainless as for non-stainless steel. Stainless steel has a problem with anaerobic corrosion, which can form if you completely seal off the screw. If you don't completely seal the screw, you'll have water intrusion. And if the adhesive fails, the screws won't be far behind, anyway.
Well done! I think this deck will be strong. If you seal the surface with epoxy I would argue that you could have left the first set of fasteners in there. Stainless or not does not matter if there is no water that can access.
@Sailing Wave Rover Really? That's fascinating! I wonder where in Wales? I'm really enjoying seeing the boat come to life. She has lovely lines and will be a seaworthy little ship.
Wonder if some old deep cycle batteries could be used as gravity clamps to hold the deck down at the edges while laying it up. Gotta have them available 1st, though. 🤷🏻♂️ Would love to see videos of the house build, and cabinets, and maybe a tour?
I used about 100 sheet rock screws to build my 10 ft scow. They are all back in the box. I couldn't get stainless steel screws due to supply chain issues. So the 100 screws were replaced with around 400 home made dowels.
Fascinating insights , thank you, Tony in Florida ps. Pointing with the middle finger is still internationally considered a rather rude gesture ( that I'm certain you don't intend ) ps.2. again, your horses seems a great everyday tool
We use silicon bronze Robertson screws. Magic and none of the corrosion problems with stainless. Mostly we avoid fasteners below waterline if possible.
Why not use a couple of ratchet straps all around the hull to hold down the panels? Then you would have no screws and I guess with all the fiber glass and epoxy of the finished product it would have the same strengths.
@@RoversAdventure Looking forward to the experiments. I’m not sure though how it will work closer to the stem where the hull is narrowing down, if the straps will slip when tightening.
@@RoversAdventure I hung out in a junk rig forum for a few years just lurking and reading to learn about them, never sailed one so i'm no expert but that was the most controversial thing that always came up. I'll be interested to hear what you decided to do, looking forward to it.
Great to hear from you Tobias. All going well we should be launching early summer 2023.
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@@RoversAdventure dear Alan, in case you see this as a valid option, that does not bother you, I would consider visiting you (but of course travel arrangements would need to be taken at an early stage). But only if such a visit is possible and appreciated from your side
Haha I guess if it wasn't annoying it might be cute how we gotta brag about Robertson head screws. I hear the Yanks got some kind of high tech screw that they're not releasing to the public though. I guess we're the Belorussians of North America. I wish them well in their attempt to remain noncombatants.
Wonderful to see your sparse, economical, and elegant use of materials to maximize strength and longevity. Same with your mast construction. Wow!!
Thanks Stephen
Seeing you sitting on the Stern of the Contessa must cause you to reminisce quite often of your ocean crossing. Its like your sitting on your Throne reigning as king over the seas. As your enjoy your adventurous life thoroughly, when I look at that short clip, it just put a huge smile on my face. I can understand what fuels your passion for boat building now after seeing that. BTW I completely understand why you got rid of that cockpit well and went with a pulpit mounted at the stern, makes perfect sense. And like you said, it gets you out of the spray zone.
It's been said before, but it bears repeating - holy sh*t Mrs. Rover is a patient woman!
You never hear any complaints from me.
@@RoversAdventure 😄 I have not, skipper!
She is a great partner
I started using a speed handle/speeder wrench to remove screws in my boat projects after the drill/driver I used broke a screw off inside the hole. The cordless drivers apply the torque all at once, and sometimes that's enough to break the screw shank. The speed handle, a forgotten tool since the drill/drivers arrived, allow you to apply down force on the screw, which prevents rounding out the head, and also allows you to apply the torque gradually until the screw comes loose, which helps prevent the shank from breaking. I learned this as an airframes mechanic working on E-2 Hawkeyes in the U.S. Navy (the inspiration for the name "Max Rudder"). One of my frequent jobs was to remove screws that had been rounded out by electronics technicians :) .
Great advice. I find that the SS have a greater tendency to snap but all steel becomes hardened (brittle) the more you torque it. I would absolutely use a speed handle screw driver if I had one (had one years ago but it no longer with me). In fact, I would love to take one on the voyage as it wouldn't suffer from a lack of power in an emergency.
0% junk food, 100% junk rig : best ratio ever 😇 It's really starting looking like a boat now and that's a great incentive to keep on this "time to crack on" pace and tempo. Mrs Rover earns respect.
Well said!
I used bronze Robertson screws when building a wooden runabout a few years back. Often called “square head” in New Zealand. In conjunction with a drill driver they’re quick, don’t cam out like Phillips, and the bit self centres unlike straight slot. The slightly tapered fitting means the bit doesn’t jamb in the head of the screw under stress, unlike straight bits like torx can do when using a soft metal like bronze. They are the best for boat construction. Thanks Canada! : )
I think a Canadian also invented the zipper. We leave spacecraft and fighter jets to our southern neighbours. lol Thanks for the comment. How's you build coming along?
Hi Alan. So close, so close. I keep finding more small jobs that need doing. I guess that’s the final fit out on a sail boat. However the list is almost down to zero. Right now I’m lashing the trampolines on and touch wood, that’s about it. Rig done, sails made. As soon as the weather fines up I’ll be having a mast raising (on land) to see what needs adjusting. Then it’s just put the name on! : ) Now I have no excuses. I’ll just have to put those videos together I’ve been telling everyone I would. 😅
wow mrs Rover is a saint for supporting you and your endeavours all this time.
Absolutely!
Outstanding episode Alan and Mrs Wave Rover! The constant camber is a thing of beauty my friend. The decision to do away with the footwell so fits the bluewater mission of this owners Wave Rover 650.
Thanks for taking us along....
Mrs Rover is your most valuable "patron".
Absolutely!
Wow wave rover mk2 is really coming on. Good to see & can’t wait for the finished version, it’s going to be grand and solid 👌🏻. Steve from England
Thanks Steve, great to hear form folks in the British Isles.
I really like the simplicity of the design with the lack of cockpit and mast etc. Looking good and looking forward to see more progress! 🙂
You and me both!
Good progress. I am writing for video support and distribution. Good luck
Thank you
The more I see the more impressed I am
Thanks Norm
I've decided to remove the screws entirely from my plywood boat projects. The point you made at the beginning of the videos is as valid for stainless as for non-stainless steel. Stainless steel has a problem with anaerobic corrosion, which can form if you completely seal off the screw. If you don't completely seal the screw, you'll have water intrusion. And if the adhesive fails, the screws won't be far behind, anyway.
Love the Tim’s cups! Used many a Tim’s cup for resin.
Whenever people visit they seem to bring Tim's coffee
A big step on the way to completion. Soon you'll be putting the big pieces of the puzzle together.
And a great job as usual.
Well done! I think this deck will be strong. If you seal the surface with epoxy I would argue that you could have left the first set of fasteners in there. Stainless or not does not matter if there is no water that can access.
Superb viewing and really enjoyable! Greetings from Wales!
We have a fellow in Wales building a Wave Rover 650. I hope to visit one day.
@Sailing Wave Rover Really? That's fascinating! I wonder where in Wales? I'm really enjoying seeing the boat come to life. She has lovely lines and will be a seaworthy little ship.
@@HP-qj4gz I don't know his location off hand. Thanks for compliment on her lines.
My favorite screw is torx, but those square Canadian are also pretty good.
I've also found that Canucks are often squares. 😆
I don’t do woodwork so,please forgive my ignorance, but why sand the areas that weren’t being glued down?
Prepping it for paint.
Wonder if some old deep cycle batteries could be used as gravity clamps to hold the deck down at the edges while laying it up. Gotta have them available 1st, though. 🤷🏻♂️
Would love to see videos of the house build, and cabinets, and maybe a tour?
I'll be putting the final video of the house build up before Christmas on my other channel Rover's Rest ruclips.net/channel/UC9k8PCCTlNyDzvYaef3Jekg
I used about 100 sheet rock screws to build my 10 ft scow. They are all back in the box. I couldn't get stainless steel screws due to supply chain issues.
So the 100 screws were replaced with around 400 home made dowels.
Fascinating insights ,
thank you,
Tony in Florida
ps. Pointing with the middle finger is still internationally considered a rather rude gesture ( that I'm certain you don't intend )
ps.2. again, your horses seems a great everyday tool
I noticed that after I had filmed it. Trust me there was no ill intent.
You are a wonderful person@@RoversAdventure
Did you take your inspiration for the stern seat from Mad Max movies? it looks like a wild ride
😂
We use silicon bronze Robertson screws. Magic and none of the corrosion problems with stainless. Mostly we avoid fasteners below waterline if possible.
Absolutely don't want any fasteners below the waterline (apart from the replaceable 1/2" galvanized bolts holding the keels)
Why not use a couple of ratchet straps all around the hull to hold down the panels? Then you would have no screws and I guess with all the fiber glass and epoxy of the finished product it would have the same strengths.
What a great idea, I will experiment with them on the foredeck. Thanks
@@RoversAdventure Looking forward to the experiments. I’m not sure though how it will work closer to the stem where the hull is narrowing down, if the straps will slip when tightening.
So now i'm wondering how much camber you did or didn't put in those panels? (is this the controversial topic?)
You nailed it Dave. Well done, now don't tell anyone.
@@RoversAdventure I hung out in a junk rig forum for a few years just lurking and reading to learn about them, never sailed one so i'm no expert but that was the most controversial thing that always came up. I'll be interested to hear what you decided to do, looking forward to it.
What a beaut!
Ver happy to see your phantastic progress. Congratulations 🎉
Any idea when you are planning your boat to the water ?
Great to hear from you Tobias. All going well we should be launching early summer 2023.
@@RoversAdventure dear Alan, in case you see this as a valid option, that does not bother you, I would consider visiting you (but of course travel arrangements would need to be taken at an early stage). But only if such a visit is possible and appreciated from your side
@ I would be delighted to receive a visit. Email me your plans please.
@@RoversAdventure with pleasure. Which email shall I use ?
@ alanbmulholland@gmail.com
Is the boat gonna fit thru that overhead door?
The door can always be temporarily removed, if it comes to that!
It will fit with a tiny bit to spare. But the keels and skeg will have to be put on outside.
Screws?? I,d of drilled them out to 1/4" and plugged them with tight bond and hardwood dowel!
Could you sometime, put some stats on the boat, i.e.length, beam, anticipated weight, etc.
👍😎🎅
Haha I guess if it wasn't annoying it might be cute how we gotta brag about Robertson head screws. I hear the Yanks got some kind of high tech screw that they're not releasing to the public though. I guess we're the Belorussians of North America. I wish them well in their attempt to remain noncombatants.
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Algorithm Booster! ⛵
This man is responsible for the crack epidemic.
I bet the CIA used to have to send experts south to teach lesser forms of this knowledge.
I suspect mrs rover is used to living with a narcissist
What ever do you mean?