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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2023
- This panel deals with the growing importance of the Indo-Pacific region in world politics, especially in the United States, and the nature of regional polarization and alliances. It highlights India’s posture in the China-US competition and its impact on New Delhi’s strategic status and the future of the regional structure.
Speakers:
Dr. Samir Saran, President, Observer Research Foundation (ORF), New Delhi
Dr. James Crabtree, Columnist at Foreign Policy
Dr. N. Janardhan, Director of Research and Analysis, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy
Dr. Wu Bingbing, Director, Middle Eastern Studies at the Institute for International and Strategic Studies, Peking University (IISS)
Moderator: Mr. Paolo Magri, Executive Vice-President, Italian Institute for International Political Studies (ISPI)
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Dr Saran nailed it when he said that China wants a multipolar world but a unipolar Asia.
The Chinese panelist also nailed it when he said that India wants multipolar Asia but unipolar South Asia.
@@thecomment9489a wu mao doesn't have the brain cells to see the nailed chyna
@@thecomment9489 Are you that daft that you don't understand what point was being made ? What has China to do in South Asia ?
@@BruceWayne12345 China has very good bilateral relationships with almost all the countries of South Asia and they probably want China as counterbalance. Also China is a South Asian country, isn't it? Just not in the almost defunct SAARC.
@@thecomment9489lol, your average less knowledgable but high talk person. First get all the information related to south Aisa politics.
Absolutely fantastically put Sameer. He is an Absolutely brilliant Scholar 🙂 👍🏽👍🏽🇮🇳
Chinas future depends on how it harmonizes with india. Both have a long history of coexistence. India realized this long back as hindi China bhai bhai , but it backfired on us. So we have retreated back. China can't have peace without india and india without China. But they have to realise this first. India has retreated back and even vary and suspicious now of China after ladhak fiasco. India sees China as a threat now. This suits west
So its not going to change. China has to manage a hostile asia. Japan Korea, Phillipines,India,veitnam, Australia, Taiwan, Israel, China is not exactly popular
Its money is desired but its control is not
China has close relations with ASEAN Nations, Both Koreas, Japan, Australia & NZ through RCEP. China has close relations with Russia, Iran, + Nations in Middle East, Africa, and South America. India is caught between Russia and China. The US-UK & West EU proved what they are in Ukraine.
Australis is also caught in AUKUS Treaty with US-UK against China (Australia’s largest Trading Partner).
Sameer Saran sums it up very well at minute ~40. He very correctly points out the Chinese condescending behaviour towards all other powers in Asia, including India, as it appeared in Chinese gentleman’s comments a while earlier.
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I would love to be a part of the Observer Research Foundation. You guys are doing a great service to our Nation! Thanks and kudos for your efforts :)
In the end people on the street are smarter than people who tweet. Truer words have never been spoken.
@SamirSaran is brilliant…instead of beating around the bush, he does plain speak….Much needed ❤
India has to balance US and China. Their cold war should not become our hot war. We are not bothered about China ,its society or growth. Till it threatened us. Now China is viewed as a clear and only real threat. China has done a self goal. INDIA has grown closer to US because of China. Only because of Chinas aggression. China has miscalculated badly. Next US president will court Russia and isolate China. China Russia friendship is fragile. Its only because of need. Russia has no choice. Given a choice they would be closer to Europe. But its not. Given a choice india would love to have good relations with China and US both. But China has repeatedly threatened india. So US is a strong partner, Russia a friend, China an aggressive neighbour
Brilliant for India is comedy and lap dog for Europeans to laugh at, and for East Asians is IQ of about 75. No time for a nation can talks a lot of philosophy and gets nothing done.
Samir Sir actually nailed it, as a student of geo-politics I always look forward to him and never get disappointed 🙃🙃
We have many globalized Indians. National Indians and regional village fork too
wow...wht a thought provoking discussion!! Love the way Sameerji delivers India's viewpoint!! Wonderful!!👍
We just want to be ourselves. Not be made to Americans thats all. Our values are deep in us. Our gods,our history,our ancestors are dear to us. Commerce and politics are ok but noone should interfere in our personal life and soceity
Why he is so aggressive unnecessarily.. We want to cooperate not confront with west. 🙄
He was acting like a over enthusiastic college student in first ten minutes.
@@nishantshrivastava9674well considering the fact that the west is funding the existance of a terrorist country its understandable + his aggression provides a message to the normal people and shows how will the west treated . But will not hamper our relationship
Great respects for Samir Saran. Very well hosted conference and excellent clarity of views put through. Kudos.
We need more of this new Hawkish Samir Saran
As usual, Samir Saran is to-the-point, bold and honest. Kudos to him.
Apart from our external affairs minister Mr. jaishankar, I also like Sameer Saran's insights very much on india & its foreign policy.His clarity of thought when it comes to china is especially remarkable which was evident at this forum also.other panelists were apologists for china.
Other panelists were realists. India should be asking or rather working for advancing it's interests rather than advancing US regime's interests.
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None of India's interests can be advanced as long as China wants power outside of East Asia, particularly in the Indian Ocean region. Therefore, India is forced to back the US, which is the only counterbalance to China.
@@xijinpig8982 ROFL. As a country progresses and becomes economic powerhouse it is sure to have interests outside of it's own reason. If IOR countries see more benefits in aligning with China they are sure to align with China. And IOR is where most of China's and majority of world trade passes through.
And US regime is the reason why China has to realign it's geopolitical and economic interests.
@@thecomment9489lol.. China. It's not American interests. That's dumb statement. May be if you're late to party, China is claiming Arunachal pradesh which was never ruled by China. Also, they want to adjust border near Ladakh. Their companies have done tax evasion in massive scale. Remember tiktok, some ahck revealed they had all indian users information regarding their usage. China is aggressive and unpredictable. You are dumb and naive.
@thecomment9489 well if china wants to have outside interests then why are you saying about US regime induans don't want china's influence
BRI traversing thru the Occupied Land by Pakistan is the thorn !
Brilliant Dr Saran 💪🚩🇮🇳🚩💪
Fantastic discussion. Eminent panelists. Thank you 😊 54:32
समीर rocks!
Chinese don't like Indo-Pacific, let's focus on it😅
Excellent discussion!
Always a pleasure Samir!
Great discussion
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A well known philosopher once said, it doesn’t matter what you wish, but what you can achieve and realize!
Great discussion and some good plain speaking.
Samir Sir nailed it.
Great session !
@SuperSaran …too good ❤❤❤
Agree entirely sir
Great points made by Samir as always but he was interrupting a lot in the beginning
Sameer saran gives sentimental answers, would have loved the answers of Prof Harsh v Pant to these questions.
Lots of love to BHARATIYA representative
Of the two Indian panelists, one of them talked for China.
Beautiful question regarding role of philosophers in international relations.
Disappointed by response and lack of.
people on the street, are better than people who tweet #India :)
As Tuco would say - Tight Tight Tight!
India is looking for stability in the pacific and Asia regions. Coexistence is the name.
Janardan - I would rather say, “don’t do to others what you don’t want them to do to you”
We teach China how to treat everyone equally. India doesn't want to play a central role but will always be there to provide support and assistance to any country.
teach China ? when & how ?
shameless claim !
WTF - At 11:02 the guy says 'My Partner is too big' ! LOL!
In Asia, who else but China.? India is still behind.... A long way.
the answer is no one, you petty authoritarian.
Sameer, you did not answer the first question by the anchor.....he was trying to refer to the History....and connect to India and its growth. If you can put off the hats you are "owning", and think about what he said. Hint: Refer to the world History he is referring to , recent being China.
India and China can have much better relations and Economic Cooperation if 1)China vacates the Aksai Chin area of Ladakh where they have forcibly occupied 38,500 Sq. Kms.of Indian Territory 2)Withdrew their bogus claim on Arunachal Pradesh State of India 3)Co-operates on DEMARCATING THE BORDER BETWEEN INDIA AND CHINA And 4) Agrees for a time bound reduction of Armed Forces on both the Indian side and the Chinese side of the Border.Any other problem between the two can be sorted out by mutual discussion.
you're asking for China's capitulation to India as a condition ? Is it acceptable to India if the same demand is made by China ? If no, then keep fantasizing !
India is the EU of the Indo-Pacific. Dr. Samir summed it very well. India is not one thing, she is many things. She has so much to learn from all the mistakes of the USA, EU, China and others.
China was also an EU but under Mao she was forced to throw out differences and compound similarities and that has worked for a while but she has created a heavy handed governance that do not empower all her peoples and differences.
India, on the other hand has the opportunity to develop differently. Empowering all her individual states to develop in economies and culture unique to them yet part of a greater India. Herein, is the CHALLENGE FOR A NEW INDIA AND HER CURRENT LEADERS.
There are big cultural and spiritual differences between India and China. India has suffered much in the hands of the Brits but she is still able to OVERCOME that impact and continue forward movement without revenge. KARMA is QUITE ENOUGH!
China also suffered much in the hands of the Brits but they take their humiliation to another level. They are clearly extremely successful and by virtue of their own numbers can continue well with or without the rest of the world. However, they have a great need to show the world how SUCCESSFUL they really are. But the difficulty came, in being too overt to challenge the USA, the hand that supported her, and at the same time intimidate most of her neighbours.
India is not yet ready to take on anybody nor should she. She has quite enough in taking care of her own peoples and issues. SHE has an amaZing future to develop without going too fast, keeping her integrity to her own peoples and the people of the world and LEARNING FROM THE MISTAKES OF ALL THE BIG NATIONS.
INDIA has an incredible strength of her own culturally, spiritually and developmentally. She is not easily influenced or swayed in negative ways for power and control. It seems to come naturally to India. Others, easily give her the power. I think, most of us recognize the higher good that India represents for peace and security in the world. Wish her great success and good partnerships with the rest of the world.
Co-existence is for all countries. Exclusivity does not help.
CHINESE SPEAKER WAS VISIBLY CRYING 😅😅😅😅😅
Yes he was so crying that he went back to his 19 trillion dollar country to his developed world cities. The Indian speaker also came back, possibly to his own high end residence but deludedly thinking that this is how most of India lives and therefore India should lay it's claim to multipolar world with 111 rank in global hunger index and other terrible performance on other human development indicators.
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19 USD TRILLION ECONOMY IS FARCE LIKE CHEAP CHINESE CORRUPTION PARTY PROPOGANDA. INDIA AT USD 4 TRILLION IS MAKING CHINESE CRY LIKE BABIES IMAGINE INDIA AT USD 10 TRILLION, WILL MAKE LOSER ARMY SHITTING IN PANTS.
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BTW BEST CHINESE EXPORT TO THE WORLD TILL DATE " WUHAN VIRUS"
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@thecomment9489 Why Chinese cry so much ? Inspite of being No 2 economy. 😅😅😅
@@ravindersoi4654 I don't see Chinese crying but only the deluded ones mistakenly thinking that they are about to become a superpower. Many believe they are already a suppa pawa... lol
12:00 "friends with benefits😂😂😂
Looks like no one else got it!!!
multi polarity ends with every individual human being ! Not continent or even nation state !
China is getting paranoid by INDIA's international approach. Why?
Each country has to focus on growth/Modernization.
India wants a global family.
China and US want their family to dominate the world.
Hope the world concentrates more on cooperation rather than domination. This will help poor countries to participate in the growth/Modernisation. The 6 C concept spoken by the mid East gentlman is also a good platform for all countries to sustain their sovereignity and culture.
Feeler of gape place and benifit earning are place of Understanding during made careless as crissis management and oppertunitist only, responsible when ?
@Crabtree: 43:34 - to your this part…..India has always provide a line of credit or helped neighbors, however the latter have EXPLOITED countries….see Srilanka, Bangladesh Nepal etc etc 😂
Sri Lanka invited China for it's Port City Colombo project. Bangladesh has it's longest bridge built by the Chinese and it already has higher per capita GDP. Nepal, well it shares a backward culture like India's but may be with China's help it may also see improvements in living standards. Remind you Nepal and Bhutan both have similar geographies but Bhutan's per capita GDP is more than twice of Nepal's. They are more busy in weird marriages. That's Hindu way of thought.
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Bhutan's gdp per capita is higher due to safe and secure condition in the country and Indian security guarantee. Nepal has corruption worse than any South Asian country except maybe Pakistan and Afghanistan. As for the bridge, even Bangladeshi government denied that China did it. China is just a declining and deluded power that is now trying to buy time after realising they made USA the enemy too early before being powerful enough. After licking American ass for 30 years to get rich, they now act like countries like India, Vietnam, Philippines, Singapore and others are American vassals just because they are doing what China did many years ago, which is licking American ass. After all, China is the expert master on how to lick American and Western ass 🤣🤣🤣
Asia was multipolar. Indians, arabs, persians,turks,Mongols, Japanese have a strong civilisational identity. Russia is an asian power too. No question of unipolar asia. Yes,maybe if chinese accomodates all.
The US brought down Japan’s Economy by 1990. Australia has been invited to join RCEP, a Trading Block founded by ASEAN Nations. RCEP includes ASEAN, China, Both Koreas, Japan, Australia & NZ. However, the US has formed AUKUS - an Alliance with US-UK aimed against China. Australia pays $360 Billion to US, so that American Submarines use Australian Ports to patrol South China Seas. This has Cost Australia much Trade with China, our major Trading Partner (we have the largest Debt since 1950). The US could not care less - It plans its next War!
what evidence is being used to state that 340 million BPL population are moving up?
It is easier to talk up on India's inequalities.
Why China hate Indo-pacific so much?
14:00 institutions will have changes in third term of Modi.
asean is absolutely one pole in Asia, south korea, japan and u.s. are another, india is the third.
Funny how that guy has to keep reminding us that he's European - don't worry, mate, we can tell! especially when you go on to tell us that you can't see us (Asia; India, China) as different from you (Europe ; France Germany trauma bonded together in EU since ww2).
At least he admits, by implication, what he sees as potential future of Asia
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So the US has claimed dominance over the whole western hemisphere since the 1820’s. A guy from a declining civilization. Italy has no sovereignty so it has no area of influence.
Assembly of Nation or Home political and violent reaction with distructions call opposison butt in crissis in home's how do they behave and reacting ? Home and Parliyament is meaningless whoo ?
I can say simply about china. China can grow higher levels at all aspects. But the communism won't accepted at all. Communism is the major drawback that country is facing.
China and India had same economy in 1980, India had 25 years of democracy and china had 25 years of communism. Today China is 5 times that of India. So please
The Chinese character can’t resist a while later to pass a comment on India’s position on regional vs Asian vs global multipolarity. Once again shows Chinese internal thinking and condescending attitude towards other nations, especially India. Laughably, after while finishing his comment the way the person jumps in his chair shows something peculiar - hey I scored over you. Therefore, surely a balance of views isn’t likely to be easy so far as India and China go. India needs to get stronger because the dragon respects only power, and power flows from strong economy and cumulative national power reading this Chinese behaviour.
China always had middle kingdom delusions
You are lying; China go for multpolar
Chinese guest was doing crap.
Samir is a bit aggressive all the time. He should be able to portray his points in a subtle succinct way that will bite the interviewers tongue.
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All of a sudden the world gets another noise maker from india. A damn loud one still lacking substance
Samir a fount of words, words, words. But he said nothing.
The jealousy of Samir over Chinese development is not surprising. Almost every indians have same view, a media effect.
India was not lethargic but was under false notion and premise of bhaichara under stupid leadership, i e., karma. But this lover, marriage, metaphor by "woke" America is not o terrible but also stupid.