Many champion “guides” on youtube just have commentary over 1 gameplay which has some value but they dont offer extensive information that can be applied to numerous, different situations. Thank you for explaining different item paths, lane matchups, optimal style of play, power spikes, and what to do in the macro sense mid & late game. Honestly surprised your guides dont have more views
yeah I have noticed this too. so main way to use this is if you kill your laner and have a second charge, if you use your ult on the wave it will restart the cooldown and come up later. Same in team fights. So unless you really need the R for extra waveclear its better to let it run out cause it will come up faster.
This is actually not true, just tested this on patch 12.18, the R cooldown start post initial cast and never resets, thus you can use it and the cooldown will stay the same.
I just wanna express my thanks to you, not just for the vex guide, but for ALL of your midlane guides! I see a L O T of informative stuff, but your videos are by FAR the best! Thank you thank you thank you!!!
This is what i really needed. I love video guides that explain the champion in more details rather than just covering 1 game and saying "this is how I played, look how fed I got" Love people who explain the actual purpose. Since everyone plays differently, and not every game is the same.
I play this game since season2 and your midlane guides is the best ive ever seen especially laning and teamfighting tips are so usefull. You literally deserve more subs
I play Malzahar quite often and only a little bit of Vex. Vex's R recast doesn't make her unstoppable so she can be interrupted mid-flight. So when I see her zooming on me with her quite often I can ult her before she casts her W on arrival. I believe Veigar's E could block her incoming in a similar wave (put a cage on the path she's coming from).
Im pretty new to league, and i picked up vex like a couple months ago. I ended up becoming an otp which is pretty annoying because I'm shit at the game, but I'm good with vex. Ngl in low elo like me vex is really strong because half of the time the enemy wont build mr etc. This was really helpful and I appreciate this guide so much because I haven't seen any guide this detailed. TYSM UR AWESOME
I was looking forwards to this video, and I’m glad to see it! I’m still in the process of trying to find a champion pool to play, and vex seems like a pretty decent choice. Though I do feel like my current pool leans too heavy on mages…
as a fellow mage player ie. ryze, veigar, xerath mainly, forces you to play smarter and safer. I found balance in the pain of also maining adc. lol guess that's still sort of the same. squishy as hell. tank ryze is my favorite tho.
I would love to know the advantages of playing Vex instead of Lissandra, both champions feel kinda of the same, but lissandra has more range and tools to survive during the team fights. Amazing content!!!
imo they are a little different, Vex has more damage and is a bit more burst focused whereas Liss has more CC and can buy more time in teamfights. Vex would be more of a primary carry and Liss more of a secondary (at least in my opinion)
Hey i really like your videos and i was wondering, do you think that after the corrupt potions nerf they are still better in most matchups than doran's ring ?
the problem with vex is after you use ur spells and the enemy doesn't die or the rest are coming to you and you don't have anything to do because of CD
Your CC should allow you to out before they can catch you, but also you normally do one shot people with your full combo. A lot of korean mids are going ludens/shadowflame to make sure they can one shot squishies at the moment.
Thanks for this indepth guide, as a returning player (after nearly 3 years) and after playing around 15 games I just found this champion. Tested her in a botgame and love her kit. Maybe it's due to my little games or that I'm ranked silver now but I haven't even seen her until finding her randomly while browsing champions for a decent champion pool. Honest question, why is nobody playing her while Talon, Kassa, Zeds (many dash champs in general) are played that often?
I was wondering if you'd recommend Galio as a Mid-lane pick and what situations he might be good in? I'm Gold ELO, I have a lot of fun with him and win quite a bit, which seems to be important. But as I climb higher I was curious if you think he'll hold up?
Yeah I think galio is fairly good, there's some people that still play him in challenger. I think he's a pretty good blind pick since you can impact the map pretty much no matter what with predator and your ult. Best situations for it though would be paired with another dive champion like jarvan or camille, but honestly I think you can just blind pick him in most games.
I have a question. Is corki still a good pick in plat/diamond. My challenger friend suggested me to drop the champ since the package, which was OP, has been nerfed dramatically. He also told me to main the champs: vex (i used it a little bit last season), sylas (i used to 1 trick that champ) and ahri (little to no experience). And only play to corki against champs i hate to play against. Otherwise he told me that i should get hard stuck around plat 3 or 2. What's ur suggestion?
You definitely can play Corki up to challenger, but I agree with your friend that it certainly is easier to play the soloq meta. Vex, Sylas and Ahri are all good choices but ultimately just play whatever's fun.
i absolutely loved playing Vex past few patches but i'm scared now, durability is scary... what are your thoughts on onetricking Vex to climb in plat+? And do you have any tips on builds or runes? Thanks in advance!
I think she's still pretty good, I'd probably go everfrost instead and look to just be a CC machine rather than building full 1 shot. I think the biggest reason Vex isn't played more is because Ahri is very similar but a bit more OP
@@ShokLeague tysm! I was thinking of playing her with comet and liandrys. To just deal damage from a distance and then start ulting when they’re low. But idk if that’s a good thing?
Hey Shok, would you still go for C-Pot starting item? I feel like almost no one is building it anymore. Also about runes: I feel like the meta shifted towards Manaflow and Scorch. Do you still recommend Timewarp and Cookies? And thank you for the great work
Timewarp kinda sucks now so I wouldn't recommend it, manaflow scorch definitely better. Cpot is still really good vs poke lanes but you should default to ring.
@@ShokLeague Yeah, makes total sense. every time I went Cpot I always defaulted to timewarp, cookies and that didn't feel really worth which is why I discarded Cpot entirely however I will give it a try again with manaflow, scorch. Thank you for the quick reply and all your guides in general! Keep it up
I´d say ahri definitely counters vex. She doesnt have to get into your fear w range(easiest fear against other mobile midliners), she can dodge everything with her ult or even her MS buff on w and she can interrupt your ult with her charm. If evenly skilled i dont see Vex winning this matchup.
I don't really think this lane has much interaction, both champs lack the damage to effectively all in the other (Vex because she can't hit Ahri, Ahri because she lacks damage). This lane will just end up a farmfest, especially because both champs come online at 6 when they're already almost at critical waveclear breakpoints.
Started playing vex and realized shes super strong for solo q. ( WDH Phantom #euw ) had even a peak of 79% w/r but kinda went down with disco nunus and stuff at 72. Anyway my experience ( low elo ) . Allways playing crown+zhona bcs im engaging fights to carry , ussualy tanks/bruisers are never doing sth. And i stick with barier bcs i play agro in lane and force enemy jgl to come to me bcs i can manage 1v2 with barier. I allways q lvl 1 wave and perma push taking prio and help my jgl. My conclusion is Crown+Zhona is best from my experience and lvl 1 Q .
I want to play vex now and i am aware of mexhanics, but i remember that i played like 20 games with vex not knowing that you can recast your R and dash🤡
also ive been up against an irelia top as well as mid a couple times and maybe its just because of the elo I'm in but all those times it was pretty free for me idk tho LMFAO
Many champion “guides” on youtube just have commentary over 1 gameplay which has some value but they dont offer extensive information that can be applied to numerous, different situations. Thank you for explaining different item paths, lane matchups, optimal style of play, power spikes, and what to do in the macro sense mid & late game. Honestly surprised your guides dont have more views
this.
i need to learn how to play against this. vex is hard to beat. it's annoying
Just a tip: Vex's R cooldown start at the time you cast it, so after a kill or a teamfight, NOT using the reset make it come back earlier.
Actually did not know that ty!
so if i dont recast it has a lower cd?
@@shallow_nights_rain It's more like that you are resetting the CD by recasting
yeah I have noticed this too. so main way to use this is if you kill your laner and have a second charge, if you use your ult on the wave it will restart the cooldown and come up later. Same in team fights. So unless you really need the R for extra waveclear its better to let it run out cause it will come up faster.
This is actually not true, just tested this on patch 12.18, the R cooldown start post initial cast and never resets, thus you can use it and the cooldown will stay the same.
Even two years later this video is still incredibly useful. Thanks for making these really detailed videos shok!
Had my fingers crossed a Vex guide was coming!!
These are great man, thank you so much for putting the time in to make them.
Comments like this make my day :)
I just wanna express my thanks to you, not just for the vex guide, but for ALL of your midlane guides! I see a L O T of informative stuff, but your videos are by FAR the best!
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
This is what i really needed. I love video guides that explain the champion in more details rather than just covering 1 game and saying "this is how I played, look how fed I got"
Love people who explain the actual purpose. Since everyone plays differently, and not every game is the same.
These guides and coach curtis ones are the best i have seen so far in the mid lane
Looking forward to a Ryze guide
I play this game since season2 and your midlane guides is the best ive ever seen especially laning and teamfighting tips are so usefull. You literally deserve more subs
watched this and played my first vex game and went 5/1/6! had a lot of fun with it, thanks for the guide :)
I play Malzahar quite often and only a little bit of Vex.
Vex's R recast doesn't make her unstoppable so she can be interrupted mid-flight. So when I see her zooming on me with her quite often I can ult her before she casts her W on arrival.
I believe Veigar's E could block her incoming in a similar wave (put a cage on the path she's coming from).
Im pretty new to league, and i picked up vex like a couple months ago. I ended up becoming an otp which is pretty annoying because I'm shit at the game, but I'm good with vex. Ngl in low elo like me vex is really strong because half of the time the enemy wont build mr etc. This was really helpful and I appreciate this guide so much because I haven't seen any guide this detailed. TYSM UR AWESOME
this is such a perfect guide, covered everything i was looking for answers on as a low elo player, thank you!
Dude, ur guides are 10/10 ngl.
Awesome guide, thank you so much!
Hoping that it'll help in climbing with her this season!
Thanks! New player here needed a character to main stumbled on Vex.
Thank you so much for explaining. I did not skip through at all.
the sky is up, good guide man
I was looking forwards to this video, and I’m glad to see it! I’m still in the process of trying to find a champion pool to play, and vex seems like a pretty decent choice. Though I do feel like my current pool leans too heavy on mages…
as a fellow mage player ie. ryze, veigar, xerath mainly, forces you to play smarter and safer. I found balance in the pain of also maining adc. lol guess that's still sort of the same. squishy as hell. tank ryze is my favorite tho.
Shes an assassin, not a mage
Love your videos
these guides are amazing!
I just bought the new vex skin and I’ve wanted a guide to master her, thanks
I would love to know the advantages of playing Vex instead of Lissandra, both champions feel kinda of the same, but lissandra has more range and tools to survive during the team fights.
Amazing content!!!
imo they are a little different, Vex has more damage and is a bit more burst focused whereas Liss has more CC and can buy more time in teamfights. Vex would be more of a primary carry and Liss more of a secondary (at least in my opinion)
Can you also do an Ahri guide? I'm addicted to these full in depth guides =).
Yeah I wanna do a sort of first impressions video on the rework and then do a full in depth guide later!
thanks bro!
hey can you do a lissandra video? these type of videos are really helpful and i think one of my main would help me too :)
Hey i really like your videos and i was wondering, do you think that after the corrupt potions nerf they are still better in most matchups than doran's ring ?
Corrupting pot is still really good for matchups where you will take a lot of damage, time warp tonic isn't very good now though.
the problem with vex is after you use ur spells and the enemy doesn't die or the rest are coming to you and you don't have anything to do because of CD
Your CC should allow you to out before they can catch you, but also you normally do one shot people with your full combo. A lot of korean mids are going ludens/shadowflame to make sure they can one shot squishies at the moment.
Thanks for this indepth guide, as a returning player (after nearly 3 years) and after playing around 15 games I just found this champion. Tested her in a botgame and love her kit. Maybe it's due to my little games or that I'm ranked silver now but I haven't even seen her until finding her randomly while browsing champions for a decent champion pool.
Honest question, why is nobody playing her while Talon, Kassa, Zeds (many dash champs in general) are played that often?
Awesome write up. What are the odds of getting a neeko guide like this one?
Might be a long time, haven't played Neeko since GLP glacial days :/
I was wondering if you'd recommend Galio as a Mid-lane pick and what situations he might be good in? I'm Gold ELO, I have a lot of fun with him and win quite a bit, which seems to be important. But as I climb higher I was curious if you think he'll hold up?
Yeah I think galio is fairly good, there's some people that still play him in challenger. I think he's a pretty good blind pick since you can impact the map pretty much no matter what with predator and your ult. Best situations for it though would be paired with another dive champion like jarvan or camille, but honestly I think you can just blind pick him in most games.
@@ShokLeague Good to know, thank you for the reply :) Your Viktor guide has been incredibly helpful, and I plan on playing more Vex now.
@@TwoBarMaster Glad I could help :D
Great guide cheers
i need an anivia guide now, so i learn her weakness
Who do u think wouuld work well with a build of hullbreaker, warmog, everfrost, nashor tooth, mejai, rabadon?
Idk something with hybrid scaling, maybe kayle or katarina or something
I have a question. Is corki still a good pick in plat/diamond. My challenger friend suggested me to drop the champ since the package, which was OP, has been nerfed dramatically. He also told me to main the champs: vex (i used it a little bit last season), sylas (i used to 1 trick that champ) and ahri (little to no experience). And only play to corki against champs i hate to play against. Otherwise he told me that i should get hard stuck around plat 3 or 2. What's ur suggestion?
You definitely can play Corki up to challenger, but I agree with your friend that it certainly is easier to play the soloq meta. Vex, Sylas and Ahri are all good choices but ultimately just play whatever's fun.
@@ShokLeague Thanks!
are you calling the the source shoes lol
Kassadin video would be nice
What's your opinion on Dark Harvest?
Not that great imo
i absolutely loved playing Vex past few patches but i'm scared now, durability is scary... what are your thoughts on onetricking Vex to climb in plat+? And do you have any tips on builds or runes? Thanks in advance!
I think she's still pretty good, I'd probably go everfrost instead and look to just be a CC machine rather than building full 1 shot. I think the biggest reason Vex isn't played more is because Ahri is very similar but a bit more OP
@@ShokLeague tysm! I was thinking of playing her with comet and liandrys. To just deal damage from a distance and then start ulting when they’re low. But idk if that’s a good thing?
how about the vlad and vel´koz matchups?
Vlad can be sorta hard, Vel'Koz I would say is on the easier side though.
is the build still relevant in season 14? Specifically the everfrost
I think the runes/items are both pretty out of date now, your best build normally is probably Ludens > Shadowflame > Dcap with electrocute
@@ShokLeaguesounds good, thank you!
How is she bot lane I’m bored of playing kogmaw and ziggs So I wanna give her a try is she any good and does the same build still apply?
No idea honestly, it's probably fine into most matchups. Same build should work.
Hey Shok, would you still go for C-Pot starting item? I feel like almost no one is building it anymore. Also about runes: I feel like the meta shifted towards Manaflow and Scorch. Do you still recommend Timewarp and Cookies? And thank you for the great work
Timewarp kinda sucks now so I wouldn't recommend it, manaflow scorch definitely better. Cpot is still really good vs poke lanes but you should default to ring.
@@ShokLeague Yeah, makes total sense. every time I went Cpot I always defaulted to timewarp, cookies and that didn't feel really worth which is why I discarded Cpot entirely however I will give it a try again with manaflow, scorch. Thank you for the quick reply and all your guides in general! Keep it up
next video: how to play sylas
I´d say ahri definitely counters vex. She doesnt have to get into your fear w range(easiest fear against other mobile midliners), she can dodge everything with her ult or even her MS buff on w and she can interrupt your ult with her charm. If evenly skilled i dont see Vex winning this matchup.
I don't really think this lane has much interaction, both champs lack the damage to effectively all in the other (Vex because she can't hit Ahri, Ahri because she lacks damage). This lane will just end up a farmfest, especially because both champs come online at 6 when they're already almost at critical waveclear breakpoints.
@@ShokLeague true.
How do you feel about building tear on vex?
Kind of a crutch tbh, if you need tear you're probably mismanaging your mana.
Started playing vex and realized shes super strong for solo q. ( WDH Phantom #euw ) had even a peak of 79% w/r but kinda went down with disco nunus and stuff at 72. Anyway my experience ( low elo ) . Allways playing crown+zhona bcs im engaging fights to carry , ussualy tanks/bruisers are never doing sth. And i stick with barier bcs i play agro in lane and force enemy jgl to come to me bcs i can manage 1v2 with barier. I allways q lvl 1 wave and perma push taking prio and help my jgl.
My conclusion is Crown+Zhona is best from my experience and lvl 1 Q .
I'ma try this in normals
I want to play vex now and i am aware of mexhanics, but i remember that i played like 20 games with vex not knowing that you can recast your R and dash🤡
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why is my brain so focused on you clicking lol
Yea sorry I keep fking doing this lmao
@@ShokLeague I have ADHD so I'm also at fault for being hyperfocused on shit I shouldn't haha
can you do a orianna or ekko guide !
Orianna coming soon :)
also ive been up against an irelia top as well as mid a couple times and maybe its just because of the elo I'm in but all those times it was pretty free for me idk tho LMFAO
Irelia is pretty easy for Vex in teamfights but good Irelia in lane makes me want to die.
@@ShokLeague SAME pls
That first combo is it e auto q or e q auto?
EQ auto normally
@@ShokLeague Cool thanks for the response and the guide :)
How relevant is this guide now
Little out of date, pretty much never go everfrost now only liandry/luden
@@ShokLeague cool, also would you say vex plays for kills in lane or focus farm push and look for a roam
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The clicking was so annoying im sorry i cant watch
all good