That square Enicar day date watch has got the Enicar AR147 movement. A very fine movement that you should try serving sometime, if you havent already. 😀
I went back today and bought the Star Jewels at 4:44 for 100 Chf (~US$110). The square one was gone. The Star Jewels is all steel, AR 1145 movement, and my first Enicar!
Yeah, it's great. But if you make a special trip to Geneva to see watches you should also plan to visit the shops and museums, and then if you happen to visit on a Wednesday or a Saturday see if you get lucky at Plainpalais.
Yes, I'm a Ginsbo fan too! Most of them that I've seen are built like tanks and the long relationship with the tunneling and construction company Marti speaks to their durability as its workers need the toughest watches made.
I have been to Geneva many times but constantly forget about the flea market. Will try this December because I hope to find a 30mm incabloc case since I need to salvage a bezel ring for a vintage breitling
It's a fun flea market but there's usually only three or four watch vendors - my friend Arafat, who appears in the Horlo'troc/MIH video, the old guy in this video, and a couple of other old guys. Several of the general antique and junk vendors also have a few watches, but not big collections. It's not Le Landeron (which is only once a year), but it is twice a week (Saturdays and Wednesdays). Give me a shout if you make it over in December!
@@theshadowman1398 Saturday the 28th should be a good day for Plainpalais! If you'd like to try to meet there leave a comment or email me a few days before!
Thanks Andy. If you do at some point let me know during the planning stage so I can let you know what's happening and give you some tips based on season. First tip would be plan some time in La Chaux-de-Fonds and Le Locle. Second tip would be spend at least two days in the mountains in the Interlaken / Grindelwald / Lauterbrunnen area!
It's an anti-shock jewel setting that is usually only on the balance wheel jewels. It allows the balance wheel to take a shock (for example dropping the watch) without breaking the pivots on the ends of the balance staff. The way it works is the jewels themselves are held in place by small springs.
@@IMakeWatches Thanks for the info. Seeing these watches at Plainpalais and watching YT videos has made me want to get into the restoring hobby. Then I saw you have an 11 hour video about repairing a watch 😵💫 (I actually bought one, I thought it was written "automatic" on it but it's actually "antimagnetic" 🤦♂...)
That Fevre Leuba is unusual, the dials don't hold up usually & very few were sold in EU, they also have a twin barrel movement Im trying to track down. Just on a vintage tip those Enicar "Star Jewel" movement are very very robust, as are the Cymaflex movements, lotsa 60's ones still running. Avia & their many many sub brands (Corvette etc) tend to be a problem to the extent I wont buy them any more even if they are clean & running.
Nice info! Thanks for sharing! I didn't know about the Farve Leuba double barrel movements! Just looked that up on Ebay - must have! I'm going to have to visit that vendor again with my case back opening tool and some cash!
sounds like we were is NYC at the same time, I was caught up in the same Soho drug scene as Jean Michel, you may have known my brother Toby from grey organisation or Ben Buchanan. I am still enjoying Vienna and found lots of junk shops
I didn't know Ben or Toby but reading up on them I do know the circles they were in. In 1984 when I was 21 I worked as the stock boy at a clothing store in Soho for a few months while saving up money to take a trip to Europe. During that time I was the house photographer at Kamakazi Club on West 18th St on Sunday nights. Jean-Michel's 24th birthday party took place at one of my nights at Kamakazi. My friend John Jesurun had a weekly soap opera at Pyramid Club on Ave A in 1982 and 1983 and I know that at that time you could buy h there and avoid the cover charge at the door by announcing that was why you wanted in. We didn't use but that others were doing so was no secret. I would go on to manage John's international tours in the late 1980s alongside the Wooster Group, La Fura dels Baus, and others on that circuit. John used cameras in his theater work, and having designed and managed various iterations of those systems for him helped me when I would go on to develop my own camera systems. I romanticize about the chaos of those times: the art and theater, the absence of cellphones and the internet... I sometimes feel like my life has been perfectly synchronized to the drift from the chaos of those years to the terrors of techno-fascism today in parallel with the military industrial complex that I have always sought to avoid approaching a systematized (in the Chomsky sense) lock on the genetic and / or nuclear annihilation of humanity. I remember overhearing a conversation by two "revolutionaries" in a cafe on 8th st and Ave A in the late 1980s around the time of the bulldozing of Tompkins Square Park and thinking to myself that what they were dreaming of would never, ever come because the state was simply too powerful. I think it may finally be here now, but I could be wrong. The revolutionaries came in an unexpected package in the sense that the oligarchy has turned on itself, which by the way is the only way that it would will ever have fallen (Nader). The new guard are up against some very powerful (and very dumb) old psychopaths (Cheney & Co) that have very little to lose by starting WWIII. So here we artists sit again, watching and waiting, while the dung beetles attempt bulldoze our final encampment: the world.
@@IMakeWatches haha that answer took a turn!! I started going to nyc in 85 but didn’t move till 94…the New York I live in now …I don’t really relate to that much anymore.. I never thought I would leave but now….
@@alltruetv I remember looking up your videos when you first left a comment. You did some funny stuff. As I recall some of it was shot before RUclips even existed - the body guard bits were hilarious. NYC is a mess now, but then again it's always been a mess...
@@IMakeWatches Very interesting reading and I find it surprising at the rate of technological progress and growth during our life time, that the human race is ever closer to wiping ourselves out yet again. Anyway I am enjoying seeing Austria, Vienna and will be in the Swiss mountains soon where I usually feel the 'simplicity' there for a few pressures moments. I loved my time in NY however it came to an abrupt end due to my addiction. Great memories all the same. I ended up in LA (Venice beach) which was a whole other story. All the best
@@hopeenquiries3638 I was in / at Venice Beach in March. There's a watch fair at the Kongressshaus Zurich December 15 that you might want to check out. I went last year and it was great but I didn't shoot any video. It's sponsored by SwisstimeArts (Serkan Gez) in Zurich, which is also a physical shop in the center of Zurich. If you can't be in Zurich on the 15th you can always check out the shop. And if you need more info about the fair you can also contact the shop.
they have like 30 Favre-Leuba Geneve Sea Chief's for under $100 on Ebay and they look good. All coming from India sellers, I am absolutely sure they are authentic lol.
I just looked at those. I've never seen those bright green and blue-green dials in Switzerland. But some of the non-florescent ones in bad shape are probably legit, but they were sold to Indian market so they're probably not the best quality even if they are legit. (Not that the one in this video is any better. It would be hard to say without seeing the movement.)
@@IMakeWatches True, I definitely see a lot of really nice vintage great condition watches coming out of India on Ebay at about 30% of the ask price of every other dealer not in India or China. I am highly suspicious
I know! And the crystal on the first one is perfect. That's important with those odd-shaped crystals. Next time I'll ask how much that is if he still has it. What's your guess?
@@jamesblonde2271 I went back today and bought the Star Jewels at 4:44 for 100 Chf (~US$110). All steel, AR 1145 movement, crystal was scratched but not cracked and cleaned up nicely. Movement perfectly clean and running +4 sec / day, amplitude 230, 0.2 beat error. This watch is interesting because it doesn't have lume cutouts in the hands nor any lume on the dial, which I like because it never needs lume service and can remain 100% original. My first Enicar!
I know what you mean. A friend of mine once asked me which watch I would buy if money was no object. I answered that I'd first buy a storage facility the size of a football stadium and then I'd buy all of them. 😂😂😂
Buying watches in Switzerland is no easy than buying them anywhere else. Everything is expensive there and most watches I've seen there have needed a lot of work and were above ebay prices...
There are bargains here in Switzerland but more in the online marketplaces than in these watch fairs. Do keep in mind, however, that in general whenever you're face-to-face with a seller the prices are negotiable.
Very interesting visits. It must be nice to be in a region which caters to your *hobby* so well! Thanks for sharing the amazing watches of GPHG!
Thanks! I actually picked this hobby because I live here, but don't tell anyone that! It was either watches or chocolate and I'm not big on sweets!😂😂😂
I could easily pick the chocolate as well (not instead of 😂)
Thanks for putting the prices in. Others forget or don't bother to.
Sure! With the flea markets and watch fairs some vendors size you up before giving you a number but when they make the price public so do I.
@@IMakeWatches Love the market stuff, at least your camera doesn't induce movement sickness.
That square Enicar day date watch has got the Enicar AR147 movement. A very fine movement that you should try serving sometime, if you havent already. 😀
I will check that out! Thanks!
I went back today and bought the Star Jewels at 4:44 for 100 Chf (~US$110). The square one was gone. The Star Jewels is all steel, AR 1145 movement, and my first Enicar!
You are a real Gnome of Zurich!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
That is arguably one of the kindest things that anyone has ever said about me Viktor! Thanks! 😂😂😂
I should check this place out , very interesting .
Yeah, it's great. But if you make a special trip to Geneva to see watches you should also plan to visit the shops and museums, and then if you happen to visit on a Wednesday or a Saturday see if you get lucky at Plainpalais.
You live in a watchmakers paradise
So do you from what I've seen! The only difference is yours is inside your house! 😂😂😂
oh wow what a lovely Ginsbo:-) 10:39 they are from Günsberg/Solothurn.
oh sorry you already know everything, I was just so excited to see a Ginsbo;-)
Yes, I'm a Ginsbo fan too! Most of them that I've seen are built like tanks and the long relationship with the tunneling and construction company Marti speaks to their durability as its workers need the toughest watches made.
very nice dayton thanks !
Thanks ElderPinto! Make sure to watch the second half if you didn't make it that far!
@@IMakeWatches i watch everthing but first your studio tour !
I have been to Geneva many times but constantly forget about the flea market. Will try this December because I hope to find a 30mm incabloc case since I need to salvage a bezel ring for a vintage breitling
It's a fun flea market but there's usually only three or four watch vendors - my friend Arafat, who appears in the Horlo'troc/MIH video, the old guy in this video, and a couple of other old guys. Several of the general antique and junk vendors also have a few watches, but not big collections. It's not Le Landeron (which is only once a year), but it is twice a week (Saturdays and Wednesdays). Give me a shout if you make it over in December!
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Appreciate the information. I will be in Geneva from 27th of December until 29th.
@@theshadowman1398 Saturday the 28th should be a good day for Plainpalais! If you'd like to try to meet there leave a comment or email me a few days before!
Great video I'd love to spend a day or two there
Thanks Andy. If you do at some point let me know during the planning stage so I can let you know what's happening and give you some tips based on season. First tip would be plan some time in La Chaux-de-Fonds and Le Locle. Second tip would be spend at least two days in the mountains in the Interlaken / Grindelwald / Lauterbrunnen area!
Titan watch 🎉🎉
Great video.
Thanks!
Nice close ups !
Thanks AllTrue!
Please make another video content I have withdrawal symptoms ❤
@ excellent 👍
Parabéns pelo vídeo😊
Thanks! Easy to make!
After 18:00 It's like hanging backstage at the Victoria's secret fashion show. You can watch but you can't have.
I've never thought about it that way until now. That is a hilarious analogy on many levels!
always getting kinda greedy when I walk these markets...thanks for sharing
It's best to be broke going in, because if you're not you will be going out! 😂😂😂
@@IMakeWatches fully agree.....😄
I see a lot of watches at Plainpalais with the mention "incabloc". What does it mean?
It's an anti-shock jewel setting that is usually only on the balance wheel jewels. It allows the balance wheel to take a shock (for example dropping the watch) without breaking the pivots on the ends of the balance staff. The way it works is the jewels themselves are held in place by small springs.
@@IMakeWatches Thanks for the info.
Seeing these watches at Plainpalais and watching YT videos has made me want to get into the restoring hobby.
Then I saw you have an 11 hour video about repairing a watch 😵💫
(I actually bought one, I thought it was written "automatic" on it but it's actually "antimagnetic" 🤦♂...)
Orda olsam aklımı kaybedebilirdim😅 saatler çok güzel
Yes, it's crazy. I bring my camera to protect me!
That Fevre Leuba is unusual, the dials don't hold up usually & very few were sold in EU, they also have a twin barrel movement Im trying to track down. Just on a vintage tip those Enicar "Star Jewel" movement are very very robust, as are the Cymaflex movements, lotsa 60's ones still running. Avia & their many many sub brands (Corvette etc) tend to be a problem to the extent I wont buy them any more even if they are clean & running.
Nice info! Thanks for sharing! I didn't know about the Farve Leuba double barrel movements! Just looked that up on Ebay - must have! I'm going to have to visit that vendor again with my case back opening tool and some cash!
@ Yeah, they shifted to ASchild i (I think) the mid sixties, I have a lovely one of those. Also some say FL are older than Blancpain....😉
sounds like we were is NYC at the same time, I was caught up in the same Soho drug scene as Jean Michel, you may have known my brother Toby from grey organisation or Ben Buchanan. I am still enjoying Vienna and found lots of junk shops
I didn't know Ben or Toby but reading up on them I do know the circles they were in. In 1984 when I was 21 I worked as the stock boy at a clothing store in Soho for a few months while saving up money to take a trip to Europe. During that time I was the house photographer at Kamakazi Club on West 18th St on Sunday nights. Jean-Michel's 24th birthday party took place at one of my nights at Kamakazi. My friend John Jesurun had a weekly soap opera at Pyramid Club on Ave A in 1982 and 1983 and I know that at that time you could buy h there and avoid the cover charge at the door by announcing that was why you wanted in. We didn't use but that others were doing so was no secret. I would go on to manage John's international tours in the late 1980s alongside the Wooster Group, La Fura dels Baus, and others on that circuit. John used cameras in his theater work, and having designed and managed various iterations of those systems for him helped me when I would go on to develop my own camera systems. I romanticize about the chaos of those times: the art and theater, the absence of cellphones and the internet... I sometimes feel like my life has been perfectly synchronized to the drift from the chaos of those years to the terrors of techno-fascism today in parallel with the military industrial complex that I have always sought to avoid approaching a systematized (in the Chomsky sense) lock on the genetic and / or nuclear annihilation of humanity. I remember overhearing a conversation by two "revolutionaries" in a cafe on 8th st and Ave A in the late 1980s around the time of the bulldozing of Tompkins Square Park and thinking to myself that what they were dreaming of would never, ever come because the state was simply too powerful. I think it may finally be here now, but I could be wrong. The revolutionaries came in an unexpected package in the sense that the oligarchy has turned on itself, which by the way is the only way that it would will ever have fallen (Nader). The new guard are up against some very powerful (and very dumb) old psychopaths (Cheney & Co) that have very little to lose by starting WWIII. So here we artists sit again, watching and waiting, while the dung beetles attempt bulldoze our final encampment: the world.
@@IMakeWatches haha that answer took a turn!! I started going to nyc in 85 but didn’t move till 94…the New York I live in now …I don’t really relate to that much anymore.. I never thought I would leave but now….
@@alltruetv I remember looking up your videos when you first left a comment. You did some funny stuff. As I recall some of it was shot before RUclips even existed - the body guard bits were hilarious. NYC is a mess now, but then again it's always been a mess...
@@IMakeWatches Very interesting reading and I find it surprising at the rate of technological progress and growth during our life time, that the human race is ever closer to wiping ourselves out yet again. Anyway I am enjoying seeing Austria, Vienna and will be in the Swiss mountains soon where I usually feel the 'simplicity' there for a few pressures moments. I loved my time in NY however it came to an abrupt end due to my addiction. Great memories all the same. I ended up in LA (Venice beach) which was a whole other story. All the best
@@hopeenquiries3638 I was in / at Venice Beach in March. There's a watch fair at the Kongressshaus Zurich December 15 that you might want to check out. I went last year and it was great but I didn't shoot any video. It's sponsored by SwisstimeArts (Serkan Gez) in Zurich, which is also a physical shop in the center of Zurich. If you can't be in Zurich on the 15th you can always check out the shop. And if you need more info about the fair you can also contact the shop.
they have like 30 Favre-Leuba Geneve Sea Chief's for under $100 on Ebay and they look good. All coming from India sellers, I am absolutely sure they are authentic lol.
I just looked at those. I've never seen those bright green and blue-green dials in Switzerland. But some of the non-florescent ones in bad shape are probably legit, but they were sold to Indian market so they're probably not the best quality even if they are legit. (Not that the one in this video is any better. It would be hard to say without seeing the movement.)
@@IMakeWatches True, I definitely see a lot of really nice vintage great condition watches coming out of India on Ebay at about 30% of the ask price of every other dealer not in India or China. I am highly suspicious
Enicar!❤
I know! And the crystal on the first one is perfect. That's important with those odd-shaped crystals. Next time I'll ask how much that is if he still has it. What's your guess?
@@IMakeWatches £140
@@jamesblonde2271 I'll see if he still has it on Wednesday (just to check the price). I think it'll be less than that.
@@jamesblonde2271 I went back today and bought the Star Jewels at 4:44 for 100 Chf (~US$110). All steel, AR 1145 movement, crystal was scratched but not cracked and cleaned up nicely. Movement perfectly clean and running +4 sec / day, amplitude 230, 0.2 beat error. This watch is interesting because it doesn't have lume cutouts in the hands nor any lume on the dial, which I like because it never needs lume service and can remain 100% original. My first Enicar!
Hi from s.korea.excuse me but the woman by you is from Asia?
Yes, Taiwan!
6:34 Literal mercedes hands!
Oh, you're right! I didn't think of that! 😂😂😂
👍👍👍👍👍♥️
Thanks!
I would have bought both pocket watches.
But none of the watches at the GPHG? 😂😂😂
@@IMakeWatches NO!!!! I only collect Antique Pocket Watches. 💪💪💪
I like that the watch tells me to DIE :D
Those Germans!
Interesting video, but sorry to say your french is super bad! But, you had the courage to speak with the seller, hats off!
Mon francais est parfait!
And BTW, I wrote that myself without google translate!
(I actually assumed it was completely wrong)
There's not a watch there I wouldn't buy looks like heaven for watch junkie's
I know what you mean. A friend of mine once asked me which watch I would buy if money was no object. I answered that I'd first buy a storage facility the size of a football stadium and then I'd buy all of them. 😂😂😂
I just watched minutes, only shitty watches...
You should watch the second half then! It's about the GPHG nominated masterpieces! (I personally love both!)
so many better watches and ming inspires you?! 😖🤢🤮
Ha ha! That's a Zoolander joke! Ming rhymes with Sting!
Buying watches in Switzerland is no easy than buying them anywhere else. Everything is expensive there and most watches I've seen there have needed a lot of work and were above ebay prices...
There are bargains here in Switzerland but more in the online marketplaces than in these watch fairs. Do keep in mind, however, that in general whenever you're face-to-face with a seller the prices are negotiable.