There have been a couple of think pieces on this subject that pointed out that in earlier centuries, physical affection was far more common in platonic relationships. Friends used to walk down the street arm in arm. There were also "platonic romantic" relationships where the two friends felt a romantic attachment, but it was not sexual. I also read that in Roman times, a man would go with his best friend to a temple to swear allegiance to each other for life because of their affection for each other - even though they might both be married. Now we overvalue romantic relationships and undervalue friend relationships.
Yes... and King David and his best friend Johnathan had no problem showing affection. This recent generation sexualizes EVERY THING.... It makes me tired. UGH...
47:22 - I hate people like this and you handled it really well. It's hard not to get immediately defensive and angry at a person like that, and you handled it with grace. Personally, I'm a bit more petty - if you're going to make me uncomfortable, I'm going to make you uncomfortable (obviously with nuance - there are times where it is innocent misunderstanding and we give grace to that too). Some of my favourite ways to approach situations like that are 1) "I don't get what you mean," and force them to have to jump through hoops to try and explain without saying outright that they just don't like women - and just do that on repeat until they make themselves uncomfy - or - 2) "That's an interesting thing to say," it forces the person to have to justify what they're saying, and I then usually follow up with, "Okay, but why did you feel you needed to tell me that?" - or - "Okay, I get that is how you feel, but how were you expecting me to react to that comment?" and just watch them start to work out that what they said was an inside thought, haha
PUSILLANIMOUS POLTROON!!! It made my blood boil that he called you back to basically say NOTHING and he even got that wrong. Have fun collecting your $15 and some change, d-nozzle.
This episode is making me snort 🤣🤣🤣 This is the only podcast I pause if I have to get up and leave the room! Between the rouching and the girl+girl cuddling, oh my ... :)
Ooh, your night time spooks remind me of this quote I saw recently. “We stopped looking for monsters under our bed when we realized that they were inside us.” You can interpret this quote in many ways, but I think it's a good one to chew on.
@@Not4EveryonePod near the end of the episode; Jess said it when you were discussing whether or not to remove the bits about DJ guy and bank a**hole guy.😅
Omg I was so intrigued by this comment I listened to the podcast 3 times and didn't catch it! I guess I need to work on my listening skills and you're welcome Caroline and Jess 🫣
Just a friendly reminder that carbon monoxide is odorless!! You should really get a functioning alarm please Caroline! Regardless of the spooky stuff it is really important!
I feel like the dating story at the 30 minute mark was more complicated. So many people struggle with turning down a person with grace. He probably thought that saying "sorry, not a match, wish you the best" would be callous. Being rejected without getting a reason, if it comes at the wrong time it can make you spiral, wondering which dumb joke or which feature on your body was SOO irredeemable. So he gave an external reason that couldn't be taken as a shortcoming about her. Maybe it was masking his real reason, but it's valid and unsurprising that some people really don't like dogs or are afraid of them, and semiregularly dog-sitting on weekends (when most couples find time to be together) is close enough to having a pet. It could also just be a neurotic cleanliness-germ thing. I once saw my cousin's dog pick up a rotting corpse of a rodent MOUTHwise and fight when my cousin tried to take it away. I could never see the dog the same way after that, and still so many people kiss their dogs on the mouth, or have the dog licking their hand eating tidbits during dinner. The utter lack of disgust that dogs have is a marvel of evolution. Still possible that the guy really was just trying to create some artificial distance early on and still reap relationship benefits! That's pretty common too.
it's kind of like he tried to gave her an easy out. the thing he said wasn't something big, but bigger than "oh you like red wine, i like white, it'll never work". I hate ghosting so I can't be policing when people end something with me awkwardly but politely. then he didn't even say we're not a match, he said we can find better matches. He sounds like a overthinker.
oh totally. i think you have a great point! honestly, kudos to him for ending it when he knew he was no longer interested. seriously, that is a courtesy to all involved and it should be done more. FWIW, Jess and I just thought it was a hilarious little moment. and we love to dig deep into a joke to really flesh it out, but definitely didnt mean it to come across as though this guy did something so wrong - just something so hilarious :)
Really enjoying the podcast, been a fan of Caroline's RUclips for a while but loving this podcast with Jess. I'm also new to wfh and this is helping me feel a little less anti-social - not sure if that's a sad admission or not but there it is 😅
I'd respond to the anti-dog guy with: "But I've already chosen names for litters and litters and litters of puppies we'd have together! You can't do this to me!" and proceed to send him pictures of puppies with random names every day for weeks after that. Also, I'd pull my money from that bank - and when they ask you why you closed your account, tell them you had a bad experience with that particular guy, who then called and borderline harassed you instead of apologizing. It's 2024, for goodness's sake - there's no room for that anywhere!
I like the jokes and fun banter but it seems like Caroline was touching on a serious issue of not getting warm affection when she was younger and not knowing how to show it which could have been an interesting deep dive instead it was made into a joke which was a funny joke but I think this is why it's hard for people to share deeper things. We tend to keep things superficial because we're afraid to go deep into somethings. Not sure if because the podcast is not meant to be deep or what, but felt like that was a missed moment. I'm sorry Caroline that you didn't receive warm affection when you were younger many people haven't. Myself included so it did resonate with me. I may be reading into something that's not there but just felt it was a missed moment.
you're a sweetheart and i appreciate this so much. The moment was missed a bit, but it is also soooo par for the course in podcasting I've found. it's this weird combination of private convo and entertainment for a crowd. so things do sometimes get lost. the good news IS that Jess is so heartfelt that I know it was an honest "podcasting" moment, and certainly i have left her in the same spot before. it makes all the difference to know you're with someone who does ultimately really care. AND at the same time, i love that you see me in this moment and that YOU really care. Love both you and Jess a lot in this moment. Thanks for being a great online friend in a small but meaningful way ❤️
@@Not4EveryonePod thanks for clarifying and acknowledging it. Makes total sense in terms of the podcast and to toe the line on that. I know she acknowledged she was making light of it as well so I get certain things are not for sharing and the need to keep it fun and light. I appreciate how open and honest you both are already and know there's an extent to how much you want to or need to share since it's a public platform. Thanks to both of you for creating a space for more real conversations and putting yourselves out there like that. I hope it allows more people to do that as well myself included ❤️
The platonic affection thing is really funny, and these are just anecdotes so obviously I could 100% be wrong but all of my friends who are really good at initiating physical affection with their friends of the same sex do seem to come from really affectionate families. A friend of mine, who is easily the best hugger I have ever met, lived with her brother while she was in college. I remember coming over to their place one day and actually feeling a little uncomfortable with how much they touched each other 😅 i was so not used to physical expressions of love that a 20 and 22 year old sister and brother fake wrestling for four seconds struck me as creepy. It wasn't, to be clear. I made it creepy. My first ex jock guy friend was always super physically affectionate with people and ready to hug or do a fist bump or pat on the back (If you've ever seen Chris Hemsworth to do an interview with other guys, imagine that), and it made so much sense when I met his parents because his dad is the only straight man I've ever met who I immediately wanted to hug the first time i ever saw him. Similar with his mom.Part of that is probably because they're Latino but it also because his dad is just a really short man, so I never feel threatened by him, and radiates affection in a way my own dad hasn't since i was maybe five
My 3.5-year-old son once slapped a stewardess on the bottom during a flight. She had a tight skirt. There was a volleyball team sitting around us. I was speechless, the stewardess turned around in shock, but when she realised it was a kid, she smiled sweetly and walked away. The volleyball players wondered if she would have reacted the same way if one of them had done it 😅
If your two interactions with that bank manager were this obnoxious, I can’t imagine what that woman bankers work life with him must be. I know you probably don’t want to put any more energy into it, but part of me wants you to go save her like a superhero 🦸🏻♀️!
I think they need to go back to the bank, request to have the female agent assigned as their account lead, and request to have the guy removed because he made offensive comments about their business. If it turns out that he's actually the supervisor (gag), just stay cool-headed and flat-out request to be reassigned to another account representative.
Now whenever I see something enticing regardless of what it is, I'm gonna say, "Ooo, ruche!" (If we can't make "fetch" happen, we should make "ruche" happen!)
Also am awkward with platonic affection. I have a 20+ year friendship, one time when we were young I was poking my friends boob because her boobs were bigger and the fact that boobs felt so different was wild to me. Years later she told me she though I was gay because of that 😂
Awww, your soccer team story made me so sad for young Caroline! 🥺 I am around the same age as you, and my cousin and I used to do something similar but we’d have to have the last butt slap. So if we were walking next to each other it could be 10 smacks in a row or something and I’m pretty sure we did this in public, whether it was shopping or out and about doing summer vacation things. No idea how we even thought to do that but it makes me giggle looking back on it. Maybe there were some subliminal pop culture things on tv at the time that inspired some kids to platonically slap bums 🤷♀️😄 Edited to add: this was around the time that “punch buggy, no punch backs!” was a thing. Would not be surprised if it’s related
yeah, the butt is like the only place on the body you can playfully hit someone without it actually hurting. Slapping anywhere else is like whoa wtf did i do to you. i got in trouble for this in seventh grade💀For ME at that age butts were still just funny and not sexual
Re: the bank mgr-Jess, trust yr instincts on what his intention was making the call to you (trying to control your perception of the experience you had there.). IMO the best and most incisive way to send a message to him is to take yr business elsewhere with no fanfare, and minimal back & forth. If you allow him to draw u into a conflict somehow, you start from a disadvantage. Unfortunately, he would prob interpret yr very subversively classy idea to go see his show differently than you intend. These attitudes still persist in generational and cultural pockets the world over. Stinks, but often the best arrow in yr quiver is economic. Also 25:30 LMAO. I’d watch 😆
Unsolicited legging recommendation: My favourite leggings for the gym are Pop Fit. They have a broad range of sizes, tons of cute styles, the quality is great, and they have pockets that comfortably fit a phone. Also, they often have buy one get one sales which makes them very affordable.
I've never been touchy feely or displayed physical affection to my female buddies. That's just not me and I am totally fine with that. I mean, they say just be "you," right?
Hey Caroline. I hope this chat didn't leave you feeling too upset after the butt smacking story. I could feel your shame and pain still there with that and Jess was still in the silly mood from the previous topic and It seemed like you felt a bit like your real trauma was being made light of in that moment (of course never Jess' intention but i feel she failed to 'read the room'in this moment) hugs to you xx
I'm a lot like Caroline with the spooky stuff. On one hand I'm an atheist, I only believe in science, everything else is nonsense. On the other hand I couldn't watch stranger things because I was too scared to walk the dog after. Luckily I've almost never experienced anything supernatural-feeling, but I'm pretty sure that's because I avoid those situations like the plague. I don't get spooked often but that's probably because I live in an apartment building and have a dog that barks at any weird noise. When I was living alone in a farmhouse on the ground floor, I constantly had dreams about someone standing outside the window looking at me.
I'm neurodivergent & hard disagree with the "not a pet" Dude take. Maybe he had a bad experience or has sensory issues, knows he can't live with a pet, and is being direct!? Simultaneously, maybe this is wishful thinking bc I want to believe direct people are out there.
that all would be so valid!! .... if she has pets. she has no pets, so it seems more confusing? It's sooo understandable if he had a bad experience with pets, or has sensory issues that he doesn't want to have pets around a lot. But the idea of not being able to date anyone who even KNOWS someone with pets...seems like it would eliminate everyone on earth potentially? I take your point that there is probably, definitely more to this story though. I do really want to know what it is! As for being direct, we do applaud that. ❤️And thanks for adding this perspective!
Hey guys! First of all, love the pod & you both I just wanted to highlight a way you can support the queer community. I've noticed you use the word "girlfriend" a lot when referring to female friendships. I fully get it, we heard our parents use it. However, it's actually harmful to queer women because when we use the term for our romantic partners, it's often misunderstood and we then have to continually come out. Not using it platonically allows us reclaim the word one day so that we have a word for our partners too
"sometimes I make Jason... I mean, Justin, smell for gas" Jason.... the creepy killer inthe movie from the 80's... I laughed sooooooooo hard! Y'all are great! Caroline, use prayer against these things. What'd they teach you in Catholic school.... Did you learn about prayer to JESUS and how he handles the spiritual world for us? You both are wonderful young ladies. I love your podcast!
There have been a couple of think pieces on this subject that pointed out that in earlier centuries, physical affection was far more common in platonic relationships. Friends used to walk down the street arm in arm. There were also "platonic romantic" relationships where the two friends felt a romantic attachment, but it was not sexual.
I also read that in Roman times, a man would go with his best friend to a temple to swear allegiance to each other for life because of their affection for each other - even though they might both be married.
Now we overvalue romantic relationships and undervalue friend relationships.
Yes... and King David and his best friend Johnathan had no problem showing affection. This recent generation sexualizes EVERY THING.... It makes me tired. UGH...
47:22 - I hate people like this and you handled it really well. It's hard not to get immediately defensive and angry at a person like that, and you handled it with grace.
Personally, I'm a bit more petty - if you're going to make me uncomfortable, I'm going to make you uncomfortable (obviously with nuance - there are times where it is innocent misunderstanding and we give grace to that too). Some of my favourite ways to approach situations like that are 1) "I don't get what you mean," and force them to have to jump through hoops to try and explain without saying outright that they just don't like women - and just do that on repeat until they make themselves uncomfy - or - 2) "That's an interesting thing to say," it forces the person to have to justify what they're saying, and I then usually follow up with, "Okay, but why did you feel you needed to tell me that?" - or - "Okay, I get that is how you feel, but how were you expecting me to react to that comment?" and just watch them start to work out that what they said was an inside thought, haha
Love it 👏🏼
PUSILLANIMOUS POLTROON!!!
It made my blood boil that he called you back to basically say NOTHING and he even got that wrong.
Have fun collecting your $15 and some change, d-nozzle.
Re: the bank interaction - I would definitely switch banks!! There's so many more banks out there! They don't deserve your money!
I agreeee
Yes! Don't put up with this behaviour!
I’m listening to the pod, but had to hop on youtube to see the leggings haha
Same! 😂
correct priorities
This episode is making me snort 🤣🤣🤣 This is the only podcast I pause if I have to get up and leave the room! Between the rouching and the girl+girl cuddling, oh my ... :)
the absolute highest compliment. wow ty
@@Not4EveryonePod All Facts
Ooh, your night time spooks remind me of this quote I saw recently. “We stopped looking for monsters under our bed when we realized that they were inside us.” You can interpret this quote in many ways, but I think it's a good one to chew on.
WOW I AM FLOORED. love.
Caroline you continue to crack me up. Have you seen the Key and Peele Slap Ass skit? 😂
omg NO. googling!
Isn't the "and I know and I know and I know..."
One Last Time by Ariana Grande?
Loved you both and the energy in this pod!
FYI i am only 15 min into the video and opened instagram and the first post was a butt leggings ad 😂
Hah, I was cracking up bc just before Jess turned around it went straight to ads.
@@ozywomandius2290 cracking up 🤭
theyre on to us
Yesss thank you for spilling the tea on gym clothing brands!!
The energy of this one is 100% spot-on. Love you both! (And hate you both?) 💜🧡
So relatable! I am always so jealous of people that are cuddly with their friends
54:25 PLEASE DO THIS!!!!!
loved this episode. Platonic relationships are amazing, my soul sister and I have a friendship like that💜
This was hilarious, I started giggling on the bus twice!!
When you say, "this is all internal, Abby." Does this mean she should edit that out? 😂❤
haha yep it does. where did that pop up?
@@Not4EveryonePod near the end of the episode; Jess said it when you were discussing whether or not to remove the bits about DJ guy and bank a**hole guy.😅
1 hour and 4 min in
Omg I was so intrigued by this comment I listened to the podcast 3 times and didn't catch it! I guess I need to work on my listening skills and you're welcome Caroline and Jess 🫣
These pods are the step by step directions I need navigating in my late twenties ❤
You guys are great no one else gets my sense of humor and your podcast is right up my alley
You always make me laugh, I really appreciate that ❤❤❤
Just a friendly reminder that carbon monoxide is odorless!! You should really get a functioning alarm please Caroline! Regardless of the spooky stuff it is really important!
Yep! I second this motion. 👩⚖
Came here to say this!
oh damnit. ok thank u for this
I feel like the dating story at the 30 minute mark was more complicated. So many people struggle with turning down a person with grace. He probably thought that saying "sorry, not a match, wish you the best" would be callous. Being rejected without getting a reason, if it comes at the wrong time it can make you spiral, wondering which dumb joke or which feature on your body was SOO irredeemable. So he gave an external reason that couldn't be taken as a shortcoming about her. Maybe it was masking his real reason, but it's valid and unsurprising that some people really don't like dogs or are afraid of them, and semiregularly dog-sitting on weekends (when most couples find time to be together) is close enough to having a pet. It could also just be a neurotic cleanliness-germ thing. I once saw my cousin's dog pick up a rotting corpse of a rodent MOUTHwise and fight when my cousin tried to take it away. I could never see the dog the same way after that, and still so many people kiss their dogs on the mouth, or have the dog licking their hand eating tidbits during dinner. The utter lack of disgust that dogs have is a marvel of evolution. Still possible that the guy really was just trying to create some artificial distance early on and still reap relationship benefits! That's pretty common too.
it's kind of like he tried to gave her an easy out. the thing he said wasn't something big, but bigger than "oh you like red wine, i like white, it'll never work". I hate ghosting so I can't be policing when people end something with me awkwardly but politely. then he didn't even say we're not a match, he said we can find better matches. He sounds like a overthinker.
oh totally. i think you have a great point! honestly, kudos to him for ending it when he knew he was no longer interested. seriously, that is a courtesy to all involved and it should be done more. FWIW, Jess and I just thought it was a hilarious little moment. and we love to dig deep into a joke to really flesh it out, but definitely didnt mean it to come across as though this guy did something so wrong - just something so hilarious :)
I laughed so much watching this. Such a great episode!
aww my favorite thing to hear! im so glad! thank you
Really enjoying the podcast, been a fan of Caroline's RUclips for a while but loving this podcast with Jess. I'm also new to wfh and this is helping me feel a little less anti-social - not sure if that's a sad admission or not but there it is 😅
one of the best kinds of feedback we can hear. hang in there, we known anti-social, and it's an honor to feel a little less of it with you
For a second there I thought Jess’ sign said: “I don’t want to do it all” 💀
I'd respond to the anti-dog guy with: "But I've already chosen names for litters and litters and litters of puppies we'd have together! You can't do this to me!" and proceed to send him pictures of puppies with random names every day for weeks after that.
Also, I'd pull my money from that bank - and when they ask you why you closed your account, tell them you had a bad experience with that particular guy, who then called and borderline harassed you instead of apologizing. It's 2024, for goodness's sake - there's no room for that anywhere!
I CACKLED at the dog sitting convo
The sign Jess has behind her is calming me
I like the til you collapse scrunch leggings! I get asked about them all the time!
I like the jokes and fun banter but it seems like Caroline was touching on a serious issue of not getting warm affection when she was younger and not knowing how to show it which could have been an interesting deep dive instead it was made into a joke which was a funny joke but I think this is why it's hard for people to share deeper things. We tend to keep things superficial because we're afraid to go deep into somethings. Not sure if because the podcast is not meant to be deep or what, but felt like that was a missed moment. I'm sorry Caroline that you didn't receive warm affection when you were younger many people haven't. Myself included so it did resonate with me. I may be reading into something that's not there but just felt it was a missed moment.
you're a sweetheart and i appreciate this so much. The moment was missed a bit, but it is also soooo par for the course in podcasting I've found. it's this weird combination of private convo and entertainment for a crowd. so things do sometimes get lost. the good news IS that Jess is so heartfelt that I know it was an honest "podcasting" moment, and certainly i have left her in the same spot before. it makes all the difference to know you're with someone who does ultimately really care. AND at the same time, i love that you see me in this moment and that YOU really care. Love both you and Jess a lot in this moment. Thanks for being a great online friend in a small but meaningful way ❤️
@@Not4EveryonePod thanks for clarifying and acknowledging it. Makes total sense in terms of the podcast and to toe the line on that. I know she acknowledged she was making light of it as well so I get certain things are not for sharing and the need to keep it fun and light. I appreciate how open and honest you both are already and know there's an extent to how much you want to or need to share since it's a public platform. Thanks to both of you for creating a space for more real conversations and putting yourselves out there like that. I hope it allows more people to do that as well myself included ❤️
😂😂😂 the humming search feature has been there for so long (I use it constantly)
ok BUT HOW DO YOU USE IT??? I COULD NOT GET IT TO WORK. HELP US
The platonic affection thing is really funny, and these are just anecdotes so obviously I could 100% be wrong but all of my friends who are really good at initiating physical affection with their friends of the same sex do seem to come from really affectionate families. A friend of mine, who is easily the best hugger I have ever met, lived with her brother while she was in college. I remember coming over to their place one day and actually feeling a little uncomfortable with how much they touched each other 😅 i was so not used to physical expressions of love that a 20 and 22 year old sister and brother fake wrestling for four seconds struck me as creepy. It wasn't, to be clear. I made it creepy. My first ex jock guy friend was always super physically affectionate with people and ready to hug or do a fist bump or pat on the back (If you've ever seen Chris Hemsworth to do an interview with other guys, imagine that), and it made so much sense when I met his parents because his dad is the only straight man I've ever met who I immediately wanted to hug the first time i ever saw him. Similar with his mom.Part of that is probably because they're Latino but it also because his dad is just a really short man, so I never feel threatened by him, and radiates affection in a way my own dad hasn't since i was maybe five
Why did I not know Jess lived in Chicago until now?!
My 3.5-year-old son once slapped a stewardess on the bottom during a flight. She had a tight skirt. There was a volleyball team sitting around us. I was speechless, the stewardess turned around in shock, but when she realised it was a kid, she smiled sweetly and walked away. The volleyball players wondered if she would have reacted the same way if one of them had done it 😅
For realz, I’m laughing out loud. 2 words, thank you
Jess, Kohl's har affordable stylish workout items!❤
If your two interactions with that bank manager were this obnoxious, I can’t imagine what that woman bankers work life with him must be. I know you probably don’t want to put any more energy into it, but part of me wants you to go save her like a superhero 🦸🏻♀️!
I think they need to go back to the bank, request to have the female agent assigned as their account lead, and request to have the guy removed because he made offensive comments about their business. If it turns out that he's actually the supervisor (gag), just stay cool-headed and flat-out request to be reassigned to another account representative.
"He heard about the snails" took me out 😂😂😂
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Now whenever I see something enticing regardless of what it is, I'm gonna say, "Ooo, ruche!" (If we can't make "fetch" happen, we should make "ruche" happen!)
I’m sorry Jess your sweatshirt is definitely red 😭
Also am awkward with platonic affection. I have a 20+ year friendship, one time when we were young I was poking my friends boob because her boobs were bigger and the fact that boobs felt so different was wild to me. Years later she told me she though I was gay because of that 😂
107:37 minutes: Caroline looks like her mama right here. Amma right, Jess? LOL **I noticed it too... hee hee
THAT BOOTY THOOO 😂❤🎉💕
Not anything with me ever too
Caroline looks fly as hell today
Awww, your soccer team story made me so sad for young Caroline! 🥺 I am around the same age as you, and my cousin and I used to do something similar but we’d have to have the last butt slap. So if we were walking next to each other it could be 10 smacks in a row or something and I’m pretty sure we did this in public, whether it was shopping or out and about doing summer vacation things. No idea how we even thought to do that but it makes me giggle looking back on it. Maybe there were some subliminal pop culture things on tv at the time that inspired some kids to platonically slap bums 🤷♀️😄
Edited to add: this was around the time that “punch buggy, no punch backs!” was a thing. Would not be surprised if it’s related
yeah, the butt is like the only place on the body you can playfully hit someone without it actually hurting. Slapping anywhere else is like whoa wtf did i do to you. i got in trouble for this in seventh grade💀For ME at that age butts were still just funny and not sexual
@@fhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhf lol totally!!
Re: the bank mgr-Jess, trust yr instincts on what his intention was making the call to you (trying to control your perception of the experience you had there.). IMO the best and most incisive way to send a message to him is to take yr business elsewhere with no fanfare, and minimal back & forth. If you allow him to draw u into a conflict somehow, you start from a disadvantage.
Unfortunately, he would prob interpret yr very subversively classy idea to go see his show differently than you intend. These attitudes still persist in generational and cultural pockets the world over. Stinks, but often the best arrow in yr quiver is economic.
Also 25:30 LMAO. I’d watch 😆
Now all I can think of is the Key & Peele "slap-a$$" skit, except it's child Caroline
He had a girlfriend or married
Unsolicited legging recommendation: My favourite leggings for the gym are Pop Fit. They have a broad range of sizes, tons of cute styles, the quality is great, and they have pockets that comfortably fit a phone. Also, they often have buy one get one sales which makes them very affordable.
Those leggins are called Scrunch butt!😂😂
Reminds me of when "cheeky" swim bottoms first came out, and now there's a bunch of different "levels" to the cheekiness 🍑
I've never been touchy feely or displayed physical affection to my female buddies. That's just not me and I am totally fine with that. I mean, they say just be "you," right?
HYPATIA, the ancient woman
Hey Caroline. I hope this chat didn't leave you feeling too upset after the butt smacking story. I could feel your shame and pain still there with that and Jess was still in the silly mood from the previous topic and It seemed like you felt a bit like your real trauma was being made light of in that moment (of course never Jess' intention but i feel she failed to 'read the room'in this moment) hugs to you xx
Cute gym clothes recommendations: Women’s Best. They got the seamless, they got the super thick fabric versions, they’ve got the butt versions…
I'm a lot like Caroline with the spooky stuff. On one hand I'm an atheist, I only believe in science, everything else is nonsense. On the other hand I couldn't watch stranger things because I was too scared to walk the dog after. Luckily I've almost never experienced anything supernatural-feeling, but I'm pretty sure that's because I avoid those situations like the plague. I don't get spooked often but that's probably because I live in an apartment building and have a dog that barks at any weird noise. When I was living alone in a farmhouse on the ground floor, I constantly had dreams about someone standing outside the window looking at me.
that last line gave me a chill. ground floor bedrooms with windows i feel so exposed. no maam
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Jess, Gina Carano is your celebrity look alike
Jess yasss 🍑🔥♥️
I'm neurodivergent & hard disagree with the "not a pet" Dude take. Maybe he had a bad experience or has sensory issues, knows he can't live with a pet, and is being direct!? Simultaneously, maybe this is wishful thinking bc I want to believe direct people are out there.
that all would be so valid!! .... if she has pets. she has no pets, so it seems more confusing? It's sooo understandable if he had a bad experience with pets, or has sensory issues that he doesn't want to have pets around a lot. But the idea of not being able to date anyone who even KNOWS someone with pets...seems like it would eliminate everyone on earth potentially? I take your point that there is probably, definitely more to this story though. I do really want to know what it is! As for being direct, we do applaud that. ❤️And thanks for adding this perspective!
Spooks can come as a result of spiking cortisol
Maybe Libby's date had some kind of weird trauma with pets before. Still weird...
Hey guys! First of all, love the pod & you both I just wanted to highlight a way you can support the queer community. I've noticed you use the word "girlfriend" a lot when referring to female friendships. I fully get it, we heard our parents use it. However, it's actually harmful to queer women because when we use the term for our romantic partners, it's often misunderstood and we then have to continually come out. Not using it platonically allows us reclaim the word one day so that we have a word for our partners too
Arent surveys supposed to be anon? Him callingnyou is wierd.
Right? My car insurance lady did same thing also my cell phone service company 🤷♀️
"sometimes I make Jason... I mean, Justin, smell for gas" Jason.... the creepy killer inthe movie from the 80's... I laughed sooooooooo hard! Y'all are great!
Caroline, use prayer against these things. What'd they teach you in Catholic school.... Did you learn about prayer to JESUS and how he handles the spiritual world for us?
You both are wonderful young ladies. I love your podcast!
Declare the Name of Jesus over those spirits that bring fear♡