The actor for Nick's dad isn't rly a random guy, he's a pretty famous french actor known for some pretty cool films and tv shows that aren't rly popular outside of France but he's a fantastic actor.
The drinking age in most European countries is 18. I went to England and Scotland when I was 23 and didn’t get carded a single time. Pubs are also pretty family friendly. I do love how innocent these characters are though, and that their first instinct was to go to the teachers when Darcy was drunk.
I love how American he's being when it comes to alcohol. Yes, there are age limits, but in most of Europe, kids can drink if they're out with their parents at 16, a glass of wine or beer with dinner. It's same in some provinces in Canada, 18 if you're alone, but lower if you're with a parent or guardian. Also, if you look older, they don't really look too hard at ID like they do in the States.
@@blahblahblahSPLASH I once got carded (actually all of us were) in a bar in Massachusetts. We didn't look under 21 at all but we think the bar got a rap over the knuckles over not checking properly. We had go back to our hotel, get our passports and come back. Petty though it was I made a point of only ordering a coke when the barman came over and recognised us and we'd shown him our IDs.
@@lisajones1774 I assume this was why they checked - they had recently been fined and weren't keen for it to happen again. Oddly, though, it's never happened since (although now in my advanced years they'd really have to squint to put me down for anything like 21).
List of French infos/facts XD: -It's actually not difficult at all in Paris to travel through the city in a short amount of time. So 20minutes between the Louvre and a café that's near La Seine is totally ok -The actor playing Nick's dad isnt a "a lister" french actor but he is faaar from being unknow ^^" He has been working for a while and he was a main acotr on a popular show (that became popular internationaly when it went on Netflix) called 10 Pour Cent (Call my agent) -In France, the legal age for drinking is 18
-In France, the legal age for drinking is 18...True, but like in Quebec, it's more of a suggestion as most under 18s are exposed to wine at home or when out with parents.
@@JonInCanada1 well not a suggestion xD They dont care what you do in private setting mostly yeah. But shops and restaurants and such will not sell you alcohol
I really liked the parallels between Issac and James's scene and the scene last year between Nick and Charlie when they first kiss. The similarities make the differences that much more stark and heartwrenching. 💔
I got the same vibe with Tara during the party. I think it was likely concern because she could tell that Darcy is hiding something from her, but Tara isn't quite sure what yet.
Dude you're funny... dry, but funny. I have watched all of your HS reactions and probably not said anything, but I am now.... your little chip ins are funny, and your reaction to what is happening is always on your face, like when Isaac was crying and you didn't say anything but your eyes did. Also, I love how you call them kids and you talk your adult talk but you look about 2 years older than them 😂😂😂 looking forward to your next 2.
Yes, they were in Le Marais, the gay district in Paris. I don’t know who that rando was during the Truth/Dare game but she need to be wrapped up in heavy chains and dropped into the English Channel
The thing about acesexuality is that you're constantly comparing yourself to it you've been told you're supposed to feel your entire life that's really hard. you constly feel like you are being left behind that you are missing the milestones that every one has already hit . this is something that I am currently struggling with.
Gotta give a shout out to “The Swimming Pool Library,” a great novel by Alan Hollinghurst which was perhaps the first novel by a gay author (written in the 1980’s?) that was not just labeled a “gay novel,” but was considered on its own terms as a major literary achievement.
Fun fact: Although Where's Wally originated in the UK, the character of Wally is given different names in different countries. In France, it's called "Où Est Charlie?" (Where's Charlie?)
I think the thing with Tara at the party was this - Darcy says, “I’m sorry I’ve been not such a great girlfriend recently, but I’m going to make it up to you. I’ve got plans, big plans.” Her plans are to throw an epic party for Tara, which includes a bunch of people and the forbidden fruit, alcohol. She works a little magic to pull it off, and is pleased with herself for the accomplishment and hopes Tara is pleased, too. She goes around plying all the attendees with alcohol, laughing, being raucous and chaotic, and making sure everyone has a good time. In her mind, she’s redeeming herself by throwing a party that loads of people will remember and talk about as a killer good time, and that’s all in celebration of her princess, Tara. Tara, on the other hand, was really hoping to have some quality time with Darcy. She wanted to be Darcy’s focus, and she wanted Darcy to open up to her. She probably would have enjoyed a quiet date more with just the two of them on the balcony eating cake and talking and making out. BUT, even if she’s going to be a good sport and attend this big party, she still wants to be the center of Darcy’s attention. They could have been coupling up like everyone else at the party, but Tara is left by herself to watch Darcy running around to literally every other person at the party to offer them alcohol. She sees Darcy avoiding opening up to her by simply avoiding spending face time with her. Also, I think she possibly might have some misgivings about seeing party-hard Darcy as someone who will be more inclined to obliterate her uncomfortable feelings than to face them and work through them. That behavior is a big red flag and shows a possible predisposition to substance abuse, but it’s too late - Tara is already in love and will just have to make space in their relationship for that side of Darcy. I think the disappointment on her face is realizing that the refusal to talk about the “I love you” moment is a symptom of a bigger emotional issue that comes with its own baggage. She probably will remember the best part of the party as the time she got to spend in the bathroom with Darcy alone afterward where they opened up to each other and had a moment of actual connection.
It used to be 16 in the Netherlands (Holland) but it now has been changed to 18. Not that it stops younger kids from drinking. We have a loose attitude when it comes to alcohol. I believe in France it is 18 too but don’t know for sure but I think they also are not so strict with it.
1:10 -- European public transit is *so* much better/integrated than in the US; it's embarrassing by comparison. And I like that, in context, the actor (who is famous in France, though unknown in the US) playing Nick's dad looks basically like "just some guy" -- an average middle-aged dad who lives away from his children and isn't really in touch with them, vs being a "face" actor.
Your talk at the end about watching children make out... That's how I always feel when they have 20 somethings playing teenagers have full on sex. I'm like, I know these actors aren't minors, but it just feels dirty because they're supposed to be minors. It just feels gross. I like that this show let's these kids move at their own speed. That's how I took Tara's reaction to the party, everyone was drinking, but she just wasn't ready for that herself and it seemed nice because it doesn't look like anyone pressured her into drinking when she didn't want to.
Thing is, in truth, many young queers do experiment with sex at a young age and while the show does an excellent job of having those discussions, the truth is it happens more frequently than people think. I had sex for the first time at 15 and we both felt completely comfortable about it. When you're queer, you often find yourself exploring more simply because, up until recently, there isn't/wasn't really any information about queer sexuality so you had/have to "learn of the job" as it were. Thankfully, queer youth today have access to resources that weren't readily available even 10 years ago. It's good that they had Nick and Charlie talk about it, even if just for a moment as it does send the message that you don't have to do anything until you're ready.
@@JonInCanada1 I think that's something that varies from person to person as well as from place to place A LOT. you say it happens more frequently than people think, but for me I feel like it almost happens /less/ than people think due to the huge number of people saying it's unrealistic that these 14-16 year old kids aren't having sex. like sure, there are kids those ages that do have sex but the vast majority don't... the average age to lose your virginity in the UK (as well as the US) is 18, so calling it unrealistic? a very subjective opinion.
@@tova1412 @JonInCanada1 Yeah, I agree. I feel like we had those couples that were together all throughout high school then like a couple other kids who weren't virgins. But I would say most were virgins in high school. I feel like a lot of my friends lost their virginities the first or second year of college, so around 18-19, like you said. That, of course, is putting a definition on the idea of virginity. But even friends of mine who maybe had one or two sexual experiences in high school didn't really become 'sexually active' until college. Then with other queer people I know, most didn't lose their virginities or do much sexual (even romantic) things until we were in college or some even older. It definitely depends on the environment, probably generation, and other aspects, but I feel like saying many queer people experiment at a young age may not be quite correct in most people's experience.
@@JonInCanada1 The average age for a sexual debut is 17-18 depending on which country you are in (in the developed world at least) and by age 18 about half of all teens have had sex. So while 15 is fine if you're ready, it's statistically an outlier. Also I remember reading Amy Schalet's book about her study of teenage sexuality and their parents in the US and the Netherlands (called "not under my roof") and one of the topics that came up was being ready. In the US a very large portion of teens felt pressured to get their first time over with, and weren't actually ready to do it, while in the Netherlands the majority of teens felt ready and prepared for their first time. Which was an interesting look at how both countries treat teens and sex, in the US in general it's a drama and bad ("you will get pregnant and you will die") and in the Netherlands it's generally seen as a natural part of growing up.
@@AnnekeOosterink Interesting that your statement is based on Amy Schalet's book, which addresses heterosexual teen sex. Gay males are quite different and do, in fact, start earlier than their heterosexual counterparts. Don't use heteronormative standards to bolster a claim as if it's an equivalent to the Gay experience, because it's not.
In an interview with Joe and Kit, they’re asked to describe season 2. Kit’s answer was “more kissing.” 😂
MAKE SENSE HAHAHA😂😂😂😂
The actor for Nick's dad isn't rly a random guy, he's a pretty famous french actor known for some pretty cool films and tv shows that aren't rly popular outside of France but he's a fantastic actor.
Indeed, Nick's "parents" are pretty impressive.
I love all your sympathy and caring for Isaak. He's such a gem.
Just FYI, the age of consent in the UK is 16 and in France 15.
The drinking age in most European countries is 18. I went to England and Scotland when I was 23 and didn’t get carded a single time. Pubs are also pretty family friendly. I do love how innocent these characters are though, and that their first instinct was to go to the teachers when Darcy was drunk.
At 7:15, the significance of Nick, seeing the other gay couple arm-in-arm, then looking at Charlie and grabbing his hand, can't be overstated.
I love how American he's being when it comes to alcohol. Yes, there are age limits, but in most of Europe, kids can drink if they're out with their parents at 16, a glass of wine or beer with dinner. It's same in some provinces in Canada, 18 if you're alone, but lower if you're with a parent or guardian. Also, if you look older, they don't really look too hard at ID like they do in the States.
same in Mexico
@@blahblahblahSPLASH I once got carded (actually all of us were) in a bar in Massachusetts. We didn't look under 21 at all but we think the bar got a rap over the knuckles over not checking properly. We had go back to our hotel, get our passports and come back.
Petty though it was I made a point of only ordering a coke when the barman came over and recognised us and we'd shown him our IDs.
@@lemonfreshrobthey can get fined $$$ for not checking all IDs.
@@lisajones1774 I assume this was why they checked - they had recently been fined and weren't keen for it to happen again. Oddly, though, it's never happened since (although now in my advanced years they'd really have to squint to put me down for anything like 21).
List of French infos/facts XD:
-It's actually not difficult at all in Paris to travel through the city in a short amount of time. So 20minutes between the Louvre and a café that's near La Seine is totally ok
-The actor playing Nick's dad isnt a "a lister" french actor but he is faaar from being unknow ^^" He has been working for a while and he was a main acotr on a popular show (that became popular internationaly when it went on Netflix) called 10 Pour Cent (Call my agent)
-In France, the legal age for drinking is 18
-In France, the legal age for drinking is 18...True, but like in Quebec, it's more of a suggestion as most under 18s are exposed to wine at home or when out with parents.
@@JonInCanada1 well not a suggestion xD They dont care what you do in private setting mostly yeah. But shops and restaurants and such will not sell you alcohol
I really liked the parallels between Issac and James's scene and the scene last year between Nick and Charlie when they first kiss. The similarities make the differences that much more stark and heartwrenching. 💔
I got the same vibe with Tara during the party. I think it was likely concern because she could tell that Darcy is hiding something from her, but Tara isn't quite sure what yet.
I loved how proud you were when Nick came out and how concerned you were about Isaac, a lot of reviewers skip over his storyline.
my poor baby boy Isaac was going through it this episode! the whole time, I just wanted to reach through the screen and give him a big hug 💓💜💙
I think the drinking age is mostly 18, but a few places have it as 16. I think it's 18 in France.
But we all know they drink like at 14vor less in my country
Dude you're funny... dry, but funny. I have watched all of your HS reactions and probably not said anything, but I am now.... your little chip ins are funny, and your reaction to what is happening is always on your face, like when Isaac was crying and you didn't say anything but your eyes did. Also, I love how you call them kids and you talk your adult talk but you look about 2 years older than them 😂😂😂 looking forward to your next 2.
Yes, they were in Le Marais, the gay district in Paris.
I don’t know who that rando was during the Truth/Dare game but she need to be wrapped up in heavy chains and dropped into the English Channel
I only know what super 8s are because of the movie named after them lol
The thing about acesexuality is that you're constantly comparing yourself to it you've been told you're supposed to feel your entire life that's really hard. you constly feel like you are being left behind that you are missing the milestones that every one has already hit . this is something that I am currently struggling with.
Hugs! It takes a long time to figure out, but know you’re not alone.
Gotta give a shout out to “The Swimming Pool Library,” a great novel by Alan Hollinghurst which was perhaps the first novel by a gay author (written in the 1980’s?) that was not just labeled a “gay novel,” but was considered on its own terms as a major literary achievement.
A great read.
3:20 I didn't catch the name of the book! I knew they call Waldo "Wally" but I didn't notice that on the book! lol
Fun fact: Although Where's Wally originated in the UK, the character of Wally is given different names in different countries. In France, it's called "Où Est Charlie?" (Where's Charlie?)
I think "Where's Waldo" is a UK thing so "Where's Wally" is the OG.
I mean...look at him. He's clearly British.
you look really proud when Nick came out! :')
I think the thing with Tara at the party was this - Darcy says, “I’m sorry I’ve been not such a great girlfriend recently, but I’m going to make it up to you. I’ve got plans, big plans.”
Her plans are to throw an epic party for Tara, which includes a bunch of people and the forbidden fruit, alcohol. She works a little magic to pull it off, and is pleased with herself for the accomplishment and hopes Tara is pleased, too. She goes around plying all the attendees with alcohol, laughing, being raucous and chaotic, and making sure everyone has a good time. In her mind, she’s redeeming herself by throwing a party that loads of people will remember and talk about as a killer good time, and that’s all in celebration of her princess, Tara.
Tara, on the other hand, was really hoping to have some quality time with Darcy. She wanted to be Darcy’s focus, and she wanted Darcy to open up to her. She probably would have enjoyed a quiet date more with just the two of them on the balcony eating cake and talking and making out. BUT, even if she’s going to be a good sport and attend this big party, she still wants to be the center of Darcy’s attention. They could have been coupling up like everyone else at the party, but Tara is left by herself to watch Darcy running around to literally every other person at the party to offer them alcohol. She sees Darcy avoiding opening up to her by simply avoiding spending face time with her. Also, I think she possibly might have some misgivings about seeing party-hard Darcy as someone who will be more inclined to obliterate her uncomfortable feelings than to face them and work through them. That behavior is a big red flag and shows a possible predisposition to substance abuse, but it’s too late - Tara is already in love and will just have to make space in their relationship for that side of Darcy. I think the disappointment on her face is realizing that the refusal to talk about the “I love you” moment is a symptom of a bigger emotional issue that comes with its own baggage. She probably will remember the best part of the party as the time she got to spend in the bathroom with Darcy alone afterward where they opened up to each other and had a moment of actual connection.
I definitely agree with you on the show’s choice to keep away from sex. Euphoria was enough to ban my kids from ever going to public school!!!
18:12 Well, super 8 is a film format and the phrase super 8 video tape doesn't actually make literal sense.
THANK YOU!
I believe the drinking age is 16 jn France. I know in Holland it's 16 .
It used to be 16 in the Netherlands (Holland) but it now has been changed to 18. Not that it stops younger kids from drinking. We have a loose attitude when it comes to alcohol. I believe in France it is 18 too but don’t know for sure but I think they also are not so strict with it.
It is 18 in both countries.
I know what a Super 8 film is, but I'm old af 😁
Re: the lighting. Have you not been watching this show from the beginning? 😅
Thank you, Derek! 💞 #SleepyWaffles #EurosLyn #Heartstopper
1:10 -- European public transit is *so* much better/integrated than in the US; it's embarrassing by comparison. And I like that, in context, the actor (who is famous in France, though unknown in the US) playing Nick's dad looks basically like "just some guy" -- an average middle-aged dad who lives away from his children and isn't really in touch with them, vs being a "face" actor.
Age of Consent in the UK is 16. By law there is no Romeo/Juliet provision and therefore they can’t Have sex legally until Charlie is 16.
It's nice the age of consent in the UK for gays finally matches up with the aoc for straights. :P
I know what a Super8 video tape is.
You missed imogen and Sahara cuddling in bed.
Your talk at the end about watching children make out... That's how I always feel when they have 20 somethings playing teenagers have full on sex. I'm like, I know these actors aren't minors, but it just feels dirty because they're supposed to be minors. It just feels gross. I like that this show let's these kids move at their own speed. That's how I took Tara's reaction to the party, everyone was drinking, but she just wasn't ready for that herself and it seemed nice because it doesn't look like anyone pressured her into drinking when she didn't want to.
Thing is, in truth, many young queers do experiment with sex at a young age and while the show does an excellent job of having those discussions, the truth is it happens more frequently than people think. I had sex for the first time at 15 and we both felt completely comfortable about it. When you're queer, you often find yourself exploring more simply because, up until recently, there isn't/wasn't really any information about queer sexuality so you had/have to "learn of the job" as it were. Thankfully, queer youth today have access to resources that weren't readily available even 10 years ago. It's good that they had Nick and Charlie talk about it, even if just for a moment as it does send the message that you don't have to do anything until you're ready.
@@JonInCanada1 I think that's something that varies from person to person as well as from place to place A LOT. you say it happens more frequently than people think, but for me I feel like it almost happens /less/ than people think due to the huge number of people saying it's unrealistic that these 14-16 year old kids aren't having sex. like sure, there are kids those ages that do have sex but the vast majority don't... the average age to lose your virginity in the UK (as well as the US) is 18, so calling it unrealistic? a very subjective opinion.
@@tova1412 @JonInCanada1 Yeah, I agree. I feel like we had those couples that were together all throughout high school then like a couple other kids who weren't virgins. But I would say most were virgins in high school. I feel like a lot of my friends lost their virginities the first or second year of college, so around 18-19, like you said. That, of course, is putting a definition on the idea of virginity. But even friends of mine who maybe had one or two sexual experiences in high school didn't really become 'sexually active' until college. Then with other queer people I know, most didn't lose their virginities or do much sexual (even romantic) things until we were in college or some even older. It definitely depends on the environment, probably generation, and other aspects, but I feel like saying many queer people experiment at a young age may not be quite correct in most people's experience.
@@JonInCanada1 The average age for a sexual debut is 17-18 depending on which country you are in (in the developed world at least) and by age 18 about half of all teens have had sex. So while 15 is fine if you're ready, it's statistically an outlier.
Also I remember reading Amy Schalet's book about her study of teenage sexuality and their parents in the US and the Netherlands (called "not under my roof") and one of the topics that came up was being ready. In the US a very large portion of teens felt pressured to get their first time over with, and weren't actually ready to do it, while in the Netherlands the majority of teens felt ready and prepared for their first time. Which was an interesting look at how both countries treat teens and sex, in the US in general it's a drama and bad ("you will get pregnant and you will die") and in the Netherlands it's generally seen as a natural part of growing up.
@@AnnekeOosterink Interesting that your statement is based on Amy Schalet's book, which addresses heterosexual teen sex. Gay males are quite different and do, in fact, start earlier than their heterosexual counterparts. Don't use heteronormative standards to bolster a claim as if it's an equivalent to the Gay experience, because it's not.
PLEASE stop with the "french" accent business.
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