Brett McMurphy: The SEC Has No Interest in FSU and Clemson | Realignment
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Can the SEC even say they are interested in other schools?
That is my thought.
The SEC isn't going to say they are interested in schools in other leagues. But if Florida State and Clemson got out of the ACC, I don't think the SEC would want the B1G to get them instead.
If it looks like they’re tampering, they can definitely be sued by the ACC.
@@jcfilms4433 Exactly! They aren't interested until FSU and Clemson are free and clear and then they are.
@@vistatiger7493 , Why because you said so?
No. Thats why stooges like this say stuff for clicks.
I don't think a lot of reporters get it. Surprised how McMurphy misses this. New markets in the future(big picture) is about Brands not about Geography. Who cares if the SEC is in SC if the national audiences are watching Clemson and not S C.
If new markets and geography were so important, acc would be a monster with Atlanta, pitt, louisville, boston, ny and miami…
The only thing that matters is how many fans are watching
@@JVAlabama my point exactly. It's brands & the viewers that they bring
Brands in the dying P5 won't be the same as in the future closed ~48-team Tier 1.
@tarheel7406 don't believe in a Super League, maybe a Super Division. I think 64, B1G (24), SEC (20), B12 (20). B12 a distant 3rd but still makes Super Division. Just my thoughts.
@@CaydensDaddio No. This realignment is about contraction via consolidation. The SEC & B1G may pause at ~20 each for a tiered P4, but most likely they go to ~24 each for a P2 and then everyone else can do whatever.
There is no feasible path for a peer P3. The BIG12 dies more each time the PAC and ACC deplete out.
I believe that FSU will be in the SEC. There isn’t a great financial argument for any other conference that isn’t short sighted . While the money in a TV contract may be close between the Big 10 and the SEC, the money is in the attendance and money into the local economy . The same things that hurt the ACC would be the issue with the Big 10. Those schools may travel because it’s the first time in Tallahassee. After the novelty wears off, you have an awful home schedule for FSU. With the SEC , all of that goes away. The SEC is the right fit culturally , geographically and financially for the greater FSU community.
FSU is going to the big ten. ESPN will have zero say on where they go. The bridge has been burned and there’s no going back. Period.
Very short sited by FSU. It’s a business decision, SEC would be the better fit
@@jcfilms4433 How has FSU acted during this realignment that wasn't short-sighted?
@@tarheel7406stop with the "how they acted" this has no bearing on anything tarheel . Just because you got butt hurt over the way FSU handled things doesn't mean anybody else cares. Besides I think you're just jealous because of the impotency of the UNC alumni and AD. Look at the bright side if something good comes from all this for UNC,you can be grateful for the FSU tactics.
@@tarheel7406 Says the program and fans with no spine...you guys would rather sneak around in the background like the snakes who got the ACC in this mess than be honest ...and will be right out the door after FSU and Clemson...If you guys are so noble, stay in the ACC wreck you guys created with the rest of the Tobacco road flunkies.
@@marcjohnson8488
"Just because you got butt hurt over the way FSU handled things doesn't mean anybody else cares."
Finebaum (at least) has commented on how bad FSU's tactics has made it look. After first discounting, I now believe FSU's amateur tactics played a role in the CFP snub.
"Besides I think you're just jealous because of the impotency of the UNC alumni and AD."
So dumb..., I have been critical of FSU's tactics long before the current political interference in NC.
"you can be grateful for the FSU tactics."
So dumb... If anything, FSU tactics have made an amicable settlement harder. From the UNC perspective, a possible windfall would be pushing UNC away from FSU and towards the SEC.
Yes, that is a good thing they should go to th Big 10
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
@@jmath1978 lol. Keep dreaming. The projection is insane: the ACC held FSU down for over a decade and the leeches are mad they don't get a free meal off FSU or Clemson anymore. You ingrates should be glad you got the millions FSU and Clemson brought that you didn't earn.
As much as it hurts to see teams leaving conferences, Seeing the BIG symbol of the jerseys and fields of USC. UcLA, Washington and Oregon is just going to raise the level of the P2, along with Texas and Oklahoma being in the SEC!!! Its just going to be great for college football!!! Cant wait to get to football
Ohio State has 91 first-round NFL draft pciks. USC has 86 first-round draft picks. That's 177 NFL draft pciks between 2 schools. It's going to be awesome.
Gross
SEC is just trying to neg & not seem too eager for FSU/Clemson/UNC. Talks happen behind the scenes, just like the Big10.
The SEC is only doing their usual pretending to want to dance but they just don’t want FSU or Clemson.
Maybe the SEC knows they cannot prevent the B1G from moving into their backyard because the SEC can't even hold the B1G's financial jockstrap.
Let me get this straight, the SEC has two teams in Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Texas, yet they’re saying they already have a team in Florida and in South Carolina, so they need to add any teams there? This makes no sense whatsoever! Florida is the third largest state in the country, and produces the most NFL players, yet the SEC says they don’t need two teams in that state. FSU has been in the top 12 of the most viewed teams Nationally since the early 1980’s. Viewership equals money! What part of that don’t you understand? Clemson has won or played for several national championships over the past 6-8 years, but again the SEC doesn’t think they need them?
Would be short sited by the SEC to not take FSU and Clemson.
They can’t say the want FSU until FSU says it’s leaving the conference it’s called tampering
I agree. And I call Bullshxt... But Sankey isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer...
The really stupid one here is ESPN.
You dont seem to understand tv market
@@stevekelly9509 Lol
As an LSU fan, I wouldn't mind having FSU and Clemson in the SEC. They both would help strengthen the football brand of the conference. If I were Greg Sankey, I would take them for football and North Carolina, and I guess NC State or Duke for basketball. Besides, let's be honest. ESPN will not let FSU and Clemson slip through their fingers and end up going to the Big Ten to play on Fox.
Networks aren't associated with conferences forever.
@tarheel7406 probably not, I hope it happens, games like Clemson vs. Oklahoma, or FSU vs. Texas would be interesting games to watch.
@@tarheel7406 They are when the networks own part of the conference. There is more to life than just the ACC so please quit trying to act like the ACC is the best conference of the P5 left when we know they are behind the Big12.
@@richardbrookins5406 Networks don't own part of conferences. They own conference networks, but those are changeable over time.
The BIG12 is the worst P4 (by far) without any reasonable doubt and across all major factors. All of the buzz over to which P2 ACC members will go vs. the relative silence re: the BIG12 proves this. When considered, all of the new BIG12 schools have failed to make the Tier 1 cut thus far.
The sec needs to get over the fact that they are already represented in florida and south carolina if you have a chance to bring in football programs of that caliber you bring them in
Ok, but why would FSU or Clemson want to join the SEC if they can make more revenue for sports AND academics in the B1G?
ESPN holds all the cards. If they want Clemson, FSU, Miami, North Carolina and Virginia, the SEC will have no choice but to let them in.
Agree here, ESPN is writing the checks. Why would they want to lose FSU and Clemson to the B1G?
@@jcfilms4433 You people seem to forget that ESPN is going broke and bleeding money. Always diversify which is why BIG went with using more than one broadcasting platform.
@@BNSF39
This is the only thing that makes ESPN short sightedness make sense...
What? If FSU wants more money, national exposure, more prestigious academic schools, and the Big10 wants them (which most impartial folks say they do), then there isnt a damn thing ESPN can do about it...and the way they orchestrated the playoff screw job on FSU, I think FSU would be glad to show them the finger on the way out.
True. ESPN holds all the cards. In order to block ESPN power in the future, we could see the 8 most valuable CFB bluebloods forming an alliance to become the new CFB power brokers.
Ignorant take. Why would the SEC want Texas, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Miss State, Auburn and Alabama based on the purported duplication of markets? The real answer is Sankey and the B1G commisioner cannot discuss as long as FSU, Clemson and UNC are in the ACC. The reporting on Texas, Oklahoma, USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington leaving was correct.
correct
a) The SEC secured #2 TXAM before it could secure flag TEXAS.
b) MISS-ST and AUBURN are founders.
They really can't come out and say, "Yes we want them". While they are still in a conference and in locked in a legal battle. Like come on..
Only unofficially by using 3rd party contractors to hold discussions behind the scenes.
FLORIDA STATE will go to the Big Ten. ESPN and SEC can kick rocks. FSU deserves better treatment.
BigTen here we come where we will be an appeciated member and I can't wait.
Fear the Spear!
Don't be so reactive. Does this story make any sense to you at all ? It doesn't, make sense unless ESPN is broke.
LOL... FSU will likely never be respected in the B1G. It will be seen (and treated) as a Forrest Gump with a good address that can run fast. FSU was a football tentpole in the ACC with far more influence than it will have in the B1G.
You just lost 63-3 you dont deserve a damn thing. You had a chance to prove yourselves after adversity and you laid the biggest egg in college football history.
@@litedawg I still defend FSU regarding the CFP snub, but that bowl showing really evidences a lack of character in the football/athletic program on top of how bad the institution has acted during all of this. FSU could have at least tried to win and allow its unofficial defenders make arguments for a true national champion.
@@litedawg FSU doesnt need to prove itself. Its been a top 5 program over the past 40 years and that includes Georgia.
The SEC already has the Florida and South Carolina cable market. If any team should be of interest to the SEC, North Carolina and Virginia would be better choices. Plus both NC and VA are AAU universities, big plus to faculty.
Cable market? It’s about eyeballs on the games. FSU and Clemson rank higher in that category than more than half of current SEC teams.
It doesn't matter the big ten would move mountains to get fsu and Clemson.
The Big 10 is very very interested in academics and is actively pushing Nebraska to make improvements in that venue! In general FSU and Clemson possess mediocre academics at best and as such the Big Presidents will not be rushing to include FSU or Clemson !
Now UNC , Ga Tech , UVa are all excellent / superb academic institutions and Duke is certainly a big basketball draw , the supreme academic football playing school save Stanford ., so they may find them as attractive . Clemson and FSU wouid be more consistent academically with Miss, Miss State, Ark, Tenn etc Not .. Michigan , Northwestern, Iowa, Rutgers , Penn State , etc
@ronaldgerbe4851 Academics are important to the Big but it isn't the only factor , because if it was then Stanford would have gotten into the big ten before Oregon and Washington. The Big ten picked superior football programs over academics in that case and it should give you a hint at how they will proceed moving foward.
@@ronaldgerbe4851lmao FSU is mediocre at best in academics huh? News flash... Theyll get their aac cert next session but they're much more concerned about becoming of the top 10 publicly funded academic schools in America and they're well on their way there as they're already in the top 20
@@odinson810So your saying they will offer FSU and Clemson the same deal they gave Wa/Or last year? Yeah, I could see that, although I think the B1G would rather have UNC over Clemson, that's just my opinion though.
That would explain why MARYLAND/RUT were picked over CLEMSON/FSU last time?
I hope you're right! The funny thing is if the SEC lets FSU getaway, they WILL regret it big time. The state of Florida makes the BIG10 THE national conference, from coast to coast! The SEC will still be a Southern Conference, (some call it the Hillbilly League).
Why? a) FSU will wither and perhaps be eliminated as a competitor on a B1G island. b) Going national dilutes the value of rivalry games. "National" is a spin to distract from a conference being forced to go wider than otherwise wanted.
@@tarheel7406 What a fool comment...wither in the Big 10...FSU has winning record against every team in Big10 of relevance....unlike NC who is going nowhere...keep living off Jordan...and if you go to SEC, I may actually root for the drubbings you guys will get every week...I see 4-7 every year with "wait till basketball" chants...
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
@@jmath1978 You can't even correct the mistake in your copy/paste spam rant.
The SEC cannot afford FSU because they cannot come close to what they will earn in the B1G for sports AND academics.
75 scholarships / 10 walkons? See? That’s B12 thinking. This thinking is exactly why Texas and Oklahoma are gone.
The B12 schools can’t pay so they want small rosters. Otherwise, the B12 can’t compete.
Texas had no problem advocating 85/125 rosters today with SEC schools. Hell, Elko made an emotional plea for large walkon rosters.
Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Alabama, LSU, A&M, Oklahoma, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, all the SEC coaches are pulling for 85/125 today.
The B12? If Texas proposed 85/125 in the B12, Texas would have been accused of “bullying”, lol.
The B12 can do B12. The SEC will do SEC.
It's such old-school thinking to say the SEC already has the SC and Fla markets. See Texas, Brett. It's simply a matter of eyeballs you can attract and whether it's worth the additional $ you can generate. I think you know this Brett, but when I hear you say it so confidently, I am not so sure...
FSU to the Big 10!
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
@@jmath1978so butthurt. I love that your program is getting destroyed by this.
@@jmath1978 Cry some more my man...probably a Cane fan or Gator...just jealous we will be equal footing or will leave you behind...depending on what fan you are.
North Carolina and Virginia should go to the SEC I mean there rivalry is called the South’s oldest rivalry. North Carolina also has a rivalry with South Carolina it makes the sec a more well rounded conference with football and basketball powers and it completes there acquiring of all the southern states.
Bring in teams that nobody across that nation watches on tv? ESPN knows better than that
The SEC is drooling over the thoughts of getting FSU. And maybe Clemson.
I doubt it. they don't bring any new money for the SEC.
@@LEE_65I disagree they both bring value but mostly FSU
If they wanted them that bad they're took them before they join the acc..stop gassing yourself.
@@DaneClark-jz7lk Clemson is definitely more valuable than South Carolina and FSU is more valuable than most teams in the SEC. ESPN won’t want to pay more for many teams but FSU/Clemson/ Notre dame are the only teams left worth more money
@@jcfilms4433 negative FSU is between Gainesville, Starkville, Tuscaloosa and offer absolutely nothing to SECin Television money
Clemson is not more valuable than Gamecocks. Being better is not a value like worth. South Carolina eagerly joined SEC and is established making them more"valuable". Swap Tigers and Cocks doesnt add a sizable value because of the region and Tv. Carolina makes more revenue each year over any ACC schools
The SEC is interested in Clemson and FSU. They just can't say it until both are free and clear of their current legal battles with the ACC. And just because the SEC is interested doesn't mean that's where they'll go. The B10 is also in the mix.
Chyron Chaos with Brett McMruphy.
Big 10 and Sec are playing nice with each other, they have already agreed on who each will invite
This I believe.
Please, provide your source.
Perhaps, after the fight over UVA & (especially) UNC.
@@tarheel7406NC will not leave the ACC they would be so villianized in NC it's not going to happen!
@@jmath1978 USC/UCLA left the freakin' PAC. UNC fans/boosters strongly favor the SEC if/when. UNC must get peer revenue to maintain its high number of competitive sports and ambitions. As things stand, UNC will move to one of the P2s absent a political barrier.
FSU had 3rd party meetings near Columbus Ohio, on Chicago too, FSU heading to B1G, Both Clemson and FSU rapping up To become AUU
When you speak about already occupying South Carolina and Florida markets, youre referring to the linear television model which is quickly dying. Streaming is the future and it doesn’t matter where your eyeballs come from. The SEC is most certainly interested in FSU and Clemson from the sheer eyeballs that they will bring to each game. And if you think they are okay with them both going to the B1G, you’re delusional.
I tend to agree with you on that. It's not about markets. It's about football brands and FSU is a big one. McMurphy should know that.
Let the Raycomm TV executives blow smoke they know nothing of innovative business decisions. If it doesn't involve moonshine and backroad deals they get confused easily!
Miami a bigger market than both fsu and Clemson rather take Clemson and Miami have the interest state of South Carolina and the most populated market as for as tv in florida north central to South Florida. North Florida has chicken farm towns and little pig villages.
You are ignoring the expected effects of the consolidation.
The Utah story never made sense to me. Would they prefer a different conference, sure. But is the ACC in a position to expand when 1/2 their members are preparing to bolt? And Utah is going to a conference that will make less money?
Now, if the Big 10 calls, their out the door.
The BIG12 has already lost its top 6 (net). When it negotiated its new deal, it had lost its top 7. Let that sink in and then think about this some more.
We’re never really going to know. This could drag on for 3 or 4 more years.
It's probably going to take the next 15 to 20 years to battle it out in court, but that doesn't mean the valuable schools aren't leaving the ACC or their conference will even exist by then.
SEC and Paul Finebaum actually are interested I'm Clemson and FSU, it's just that they are trying to downplay their interest in an effort to reduce the value and cost of acquiring the two schools.
FSU has more national viewership than anybody in the Sec outside of Alabama and maybe Uga depending on season, but nonetheless they are in the top 10. Why wouldn’t they want FSU if they are truly looking to expand.
Yea yea stop with the cap they definitely will take FSU they would boost the SEC with those new matchups and Tallahassee is a fit when you look at the other cities the SEC schools are in ... Besides Austin Texas
I think that it goes both ways. FSU is angling for the B10
Im pretty sure that Clemson and FSU have the Big10 on their radar anyways. I haven't heard any news saying that either of those teams were ever interested in the SEC.
I think both schools would certainly be interested, but insiders at FSU (including the head of their NIL collective that does a podcast w/ Bud Elliott) thinks it's just a matter of time before they are in the BIg10.
Yeah but are Clemson and FSU on the Big 10 's radar? Neither one is an AAU member and the Big 10 has plenty of options that are AAU members.
@@ronwilde1595 Ron, see above...your suggestions do nothing for FOX...cmon man, its not that hard a concept...GT ?? Miami ?? bhahaa
@@cdray-qy7wp Its about TV markets. Atlanta is the 8th largest market and Miami is 16th. Expansion is and always will be about getting a footprint in an area there not in yet.
@@cdray-qy7wp What do you mean they do nothing for FOX? Conference realignment is and always has been about getting into a new market. Atlanta is the 8th largest and Miami is 16th. You're right it's not a hard concept to figure out.
I can see Big10 taking FSU and Clemson, with Fox ok'ing in order to continue to become national conference and get foothold into Southeast...plus they add those two and they are on par from a top team standpoint with SEC. SEC takes NC and Virginia to help on the basketball and academic side, while gaining a few mediocre teams for the good football teams to beat up on...SEC has enough top teams and really don't need to add 2 more top programs....Big10 can beef up their league a ton with those two and ND
SEC is missing the point. Their old school like the pac12 was. Big 10 and Big12 see the future. They maybe looking at the Virginia,Vtech, NCarolina.
Let Big10 (Fox) invade the state of Florida.
Sec only wants to add schools named after new states they don’t currently have like North Carolina
Well, tortious interference is a motive. Also, Barry Switzer famously added players to his roster who he had no intention of playing but wanted to weaken his competition. So if the Big Ten finds them beneficial expect the SEC to go after them.
FSU and Clemson will be in the SEC just wait and see. No way in hell ESPN gives up its best assets in the ACC to the people up north. Yes of course the SEC wants both of these teams. Use some common sense folks.
ESPN couldn't even pay up for a 9th SEC conference game. Don't be shocked if the SEC does add schools, but the schools only get partial shares till the next media deal.
CLEMSON and FSU are disposable to the SEC. How many times does this have to be credibly reported?
The SEC has no interest in the SEC and the feeling is mutual.
@@505premoto I think you typed SEC one too many times.
@@encycl07pedia- I take no responsibility for anything I write.
Umm. Henry Iba ran the 4 corner offense.
If each of the 16 SEC schools are going to annually receive $100 million in revenue sharing, then if the league expands to 18, the two new teams must bring in a combined $200 million in new revenue, or else the other 16 teams lose financially in this deal. Florida State and Clemson have a lot of fans, but not $200 million worth of new fan revenue. They cannibalize a lot of existing media markets.
On the other hand, North Carolina brings in four new top 50 media markets (Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, Greenville-Asheville, and Greensboro-High Point, Winston-Salem). Virginia brings in the huge DC market as well as Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News, and Richmond-Petersburg. These two schools can add $200 million in new media market-generating revenue.
Thank you! You explained it perfectly few people on this site understand what expansion is about. You don't just add schools for the sake of it they have to bring a market you're not already in. Having redundant markets doesn't do that.
The Venables slander on this show is insane. 3 consecutive top 10 recruiting classes as well as 3 consecutive top 20 portal classes. He won 10 games in his second season as a HC and Sark did it for the first time, in his much longer coaching career, last season in the same conference BV is coaching in. Because for some reason Texas gets a pass for coming from the Big12 and OU doesn't. OU beat Texas last season and was a couple of bad plays from playing Texas again in the Big12 championship. OU was in a FAR worse state when BV took over, thanks to how Riley departed, compared to Texas when Sark got there. Not sure what else the guy has to do to get some respect.
Y'all know they HAVE to say that to protect themselves from litigation, right?
Big ten SUPERIOR to SEC regarding $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ National scope and polloi Academics.....
Money for nothing. Their sports stink.
FSU & Clemson to the SEC is the easiest deal to make happen.
ESPN playing hardball here & will only screw themselves doing it...
If ESPN was in the spending mood they would have bumped up the media deal for a 9th SEC conference game. Let's face it, it's been a couple rough years for ESPN/Disney.
Not if CLEMSON/FSU are disposable to the SEC.
Fsu and clemson belong in sec...the regional games and travel would make sec and fsu a ton of money...they wouldnt become lower than average in 90% of their sports. Nobody wants to watch home or away noon games against 80% of the big 10
Belong??? if they belonged, would have been in years ago. think the SUNBELT CONF is where they need to be.
Miami, Duke, Virginia and NC make more sense for the B1G.
Or staying in the Acc. Clem and Fsu wouldn't kill the Acc. Fsu has had 1 good team in 12-13 years. Clem has fallen back in the Acc. The Acc would be strong without them.
The SEC is split when is comes down to both FSU and Clemson. They both are really good programs but the SEC is already in both states. There are other attractive programs that are in states we are currently not in (but are also not completely across the country) like North Carolina and Virginia. That’s who I think the SEC would be the most interested in.
And those two schools will maybe bring a total between the 2 of them of 1 million viewers for their games...if espn prefers that over 10-12 million Clemson/FSU brings, then they deserve to go bankrupt like they are...this is about the future, which is streaming, and attracting folks to pay to watch programs....not regions like in the past. Thats where ACC screwed up with BC/Syracuse - huge markets that dont care about CFB.... Big10 by being aggressive with the last couple big brands is outsmarting the SEC right now...If Big10 adds Clemson/FSU and probably ND down the road and SEC takes UNC/Virginia (with ESPN having to pay another $160M for those two who will get the ratings on par with Vandy) its game over...A true National League vs Southern regional
@@cdray-qy7wp Typical unimpressive FSU fan who fails to account for relative value and the expected effects from the consolidation. Static thinking in a dynamic situation.
@@tarheel7406 typical Tarheel who types a lot while saying nothing...but then again snakes like them are used to that...just admit, you and your Tobacco Road cohorts screwed the ACC and its members with back room deals and nepotism...
Florida State was never going to the SEC. Big Ten bound. Go Noles Go.
Maybe... More likely UVA, UNC, CLEMSON & FSU were the 4-bloc original tagets of the SEC; however, FSU tactics during the realignment eliminated it from SEC consideration.
@@tarheel7406 Poor Tarheel...meanwhile your board, board of governors, and AD are all battling in public... NC is very quickly being recognized as toxic situation ...nice tactics bud....If you think the Big2 are taking both you and NC State, get real...
@@cdray-qy7wp
a) UNC can't be responsible for political fights outside of the institution.
b) I suspect that the SEC would take NCSTATE to secure UNC, but efforts are ongoing to prevent that necessity.
Be careful, I can see FSU having to wait things out in he BIG12. My odds of FSU landing in the BIG12 keep increasing.
UNC is the prize, not FSU.
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
@@jmath1978 sounds like a Gator is scared...a Cane is jealous...or a ACc leach is bitter...either way, good luck to your loser team while FSU wins its 4th soon...
They do not join the SEC, I could see them trying to convince some of the big 12 teams to break off and create a whole new conference. They might even take some of the top ACC teams along with them.
Maybe...
a) UVA/UNC take the SEC to 18
b) The B1G stands pat
c) CLEMSON & FSU found/tentpole a new conference with the best of those remaining outside of the then P2
d) ND continues is current status with hat new conference
as a acc guy, i dont buy it. legally the sec can only say they re not intrested. Once the split is done i believe both schools will be in the sec. coming from a acc guy
I agree. We hope they come to the SEC with us. Would be a dynamite league!!
Neither hurts them the sec if they don't .
Spurn the SEC and join cupcake conference until you destroy it and think you can now join. Ha, FSU and Clemson will never be SEC. They should conference up with Miami, Clemson, Penn State etc. SRC don't need them now
@@user-wh4un9sh4r news report...they don't want to go to SEC because the Big10 is better...financially, academically and nationally....so go pump your chest and get an SEC tattoo if that makes you feel less scorned when they go Big10
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
ESPN and Fox will determine if they want to add schools or not.
Also remember Brett and others stating over and over that the Big 10 didn’t want Oregon and Washington
When did they state this?
The B1G didn't want W/O, at least not when they ultimately were invited. That expansion was premature relative to when they were planned to be more seriously considered.
@@tarheel7406 I guess my point is that it happened anyway, so just bc the SEC “doesn’t want “ FSU/Clemson, if they suddenly became available, the SEC would take them in a nanosecond if for no other reason to lose ground to the Big 10
@@Bradstonepro The B1G didn't anticipate PAC incompetence and had considered UNC secured when/if. As it turned out so far, PAC incompetence caused a near complete scatter and UNC swung heavily towards the SEC. If anything, these events plus others have made CLEMSON/FSU more disposable from the SEC's perspective.
Again as things stand, I maintain that FSU has next to no chance of an SEC invite but that the SEC has agreed to take CLEMSON to seal the deal with UNC.
@@tarheel7406 UNC dude has no clue...Clemson doesnt need UNC to get into any conference.....like they wont stand on their own...man your comments just keep getting worse and worse...its acutally kinda funny how hard you are stumping for UNC without outright saying it...kinda snake like...same as your school
Big 10 need them 2 easy buckeyes...sides Michigan or Pennstate....then they be like sec
I haven't heard anyone mention this but if Fox Sports is owned by Disney and ESPN is owned by Disney then why are they competing? Could this all be a ploy be Disney to own college football?
Disney owns the Fox entertainment catalog ( xmen, predator, simpsons, etc…) Fox has sole possession of their sports.
Texas gets good once you can openly pay players... Shocker
Bad read, bad take by McMurphy. Just a reckless, baseless, irresponsible statement, imo.
Huh? Reporters and analysts have been rather consistent from Day 1 that CLEMSON and FSU were not higher SEC priorities.
@tarheel7406 And I never took any of those statements seriously.
FSU & Clemson are the two crown jewels of the ACC. They are best two media properties to be in play from this point forward (other than Notre Dame) probably for the next 50 years.
... Unless schools were to move between SEC & Big10....
There is NO Way SEC and ESPN are not interested in getting those 2 prime properties their house.
There just is no way they have no interest.
The expressed basis for McMurphy's opinion is seriously flawed.
@@CharlesFosterMalloy If you don't even consider credible professional reporting, then there's no reason to consider your analysis.
History and current credible reporting say that UVA/UNC are the crown jewels, not CLEMSON & FSU. As far as I can tell, neither were even considered for the B1G's expansion with UMD/RUT.
You need to learn the bumblebee rule. If your laws of physics say they can't fly, revisit your laws of physics.
Stark has one 10+ win season in 10 years as a coach.... yet everyone is crowning him.. I don't yet
SEC just doesn't want to take an L fighting for them. 😂
Fsu knows about taking L don't they. Hint hint 63 - 3.ok now you can start whining about the starters quit in the team. We didn't want be there. Yet fsu bank that orange bowl check..hmm .needed that ESPN/sec money.
If Fsu and Clem go to the Big 10 their programs will not compete in the South. Their recruiting will take a hit.
FSU can recruit in the ACC, that isn't going anywhere but up in the B1G.
Brett McMruphy
am i missing something with Florida State??. After Jameis Winston left 1 full year(2014 I think) after winning the Natty. FSU was playing in a empty stadium for 7 or so years. I remember the guy sitting in the stands by himself reading a book. Here comes last year and All of a sudden they had a great year. And they are a Brand thats on everyones must have list? You telling me that they cant sell seats in the stadium BUT all of the fans are tuning in at home to watch the Nols which were a undisciplined free for all hot mess at the time....OK.. I guess.. Sorry I couldn't word it better but I think everyone knows what I am trying to say... How far off base am I on this?
you're not wrong. fsu had a horrible AD and a horrible coach and it was painful. PAINFUL. oh and i think you might be referring to the same period of time this awful ACC contract was signed. all those people are gone (driven out is probably more accurate) and it's like old good times again
That was when Jumbo was looking and that great Stan Wilcox did the first DEI hire on his way out with Slick Willie taking Jumbo's place. I still watched them from home even though they sucked during that time. Did not take long and Slick Willie was gone and the rise started. And that now was 5 years ago so yes, you are off base.
Even when they were down they brought in TV ratings..and thats who is writing the checks...when they are good they are top 5-10 Tv....BTW their stadium was far from empty...check the facts not a GIF... But look at any team during their down years - attendance plummets...see Gators, USC, etc...
FSU is far from major cities and airports compared to other schools. So filling stadium seats is a little more difficult. But their viewership is excellent. They have more viewership than Clemson, even in the bad years.
@@caleb7137 And higher than 80% of the SEC and Big10 schools...but yeah, they dont bring anything...too funny. Sounds like "Morr is" a Gator!
Sec espn will be fine with letting the b1g getting clemson fsu. They are bigger than that and should expand into unc and uva
UNC and UVA have the worst football TV ratings in the ACC. I don’t think ESPN wants to pay for them
Nope. I am in the Big 10. Why do we need to take on water with FSU who got blown out by 60 to Georgia and Clemson which has been in a 6-year decline? The Big 10 wants to stay rich. This means not taking in poor teams.
I will guarantee you UNC and UVA will stick their noses in the air and beg the B1G before they join the SEC. Just the way they are.
@@CarlaJenkinsTV OSU and Michigan need more competition. The B1G has been suck, they need FSU and Clemson more than you think.
@@CarlaJenkinsTV fsu didn't play their bowl game, they did a protest appearance so they wouldn't screw their conference out of the bowl money. if i'm not mistaken, that entire starting line up who sat out the bowl game? i think they're all in the NFL now
Espn no control over Fox....
But they have Vanderbilt. FSU and Clemson rather play SEC tèams for natty.
FSU fans want the big 10 we ain’t crying because we won’t go to the SEC and play our cousin Junebug and them
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
@@jmath1978 it’s ironic that you have the Kool-Aid avatar because that’s what you sipping on clown
They can't recruit as well being in the Big 10. Southern schools will be able to recruit well against them. Most of the kids in the South don't want to play in the Big 10.
Ouch, FSU and Clemson
Speaking for Seminole Nation....we hate Disney, we hate the SEC, we hate the College Football Playoff Committee, we hate College GameDay. We want to be in the B1G. We do not care how any of you all feel about it. Go Noles -------;;--->
Nothing but the truth. 👍 FSU to the B1G.
Ditto, and amen!
Who care scat.florida state.
Y'all are just mad about not getting into the playoffs. FSU fans are acting like the popular girl not getting asked to the prom by the captain of the football team while he chooses to ask the nerdy girl instead.
Speak for yourself. I'm Noles all the way and want us in the SEC as do the vast majority of Seminole Nation.
😂😂 y'all funny
Lol I love the blowing smoke up Texas’s rear doesn’t realize that it’s always been this way with all the advantages yet only 3 national championships to show for it 😂🤷♂️ I mean let’s get real the only difference is now everyone is allowed to openly throw cash at players not like it was never done before. OU will be OU despite all the desperate naysayers who doubt them. These takes from the media get old and I realize that it’s just clickbait stuff and I love it because this is all bulletin board material to motivate OU I can guarantee you Schmidt’s gonna have these boys pumped up and gonna tear into the SEC I don’t think people understand what an angry disrespected OU is but they will 🤫
FSU fans - who you bringing with you to the B1G? What is your wish list?
Get them to keep the Big Ten out
No interest? Lol because they know them 2 teams would dominate
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
This is copium
Why would the SEC want FSU and Clemson? They have Texas and Oklahoma. They want a North Carolina school and a Virginia school.
Ill Brett is a shill
SEC fan here. Yeah, FSU is not a fit. It's okay to be more Big 10ish, which they are. Clemson is more Big 12ish in my opinion. And there's nothing wrong with that either.
Clemson is more SEC than South Carolina. Lol
i always thought of clemson as more SEC, tbh. it's probably the orange
Your biscuits aren’t buttered fool. FSU and Clemson are both closer to the sec than several of your current members.
There is room for FSU... Clemson is in severe decline and needs to be passed up. Take FSU and NC and call it a day.
What does NC really add? I mean, terrible ratings and apathetic fans for football...never even won the ACC in modern history...I guess basketball, but does the SEC need that? They already are catching up due to $$ differential..
Does FSU know the SEC don't want them? FSU thinks everyone wants them. Somethings not adding up.
Where did you come up with that, lol!
I'm in the Big 10 (Ohio State). FSU believes that the Big 10 will fight ESPN (Big 10 does not have ESPN) because FSU has run out of money. No we aren't. The Big 10 has just added USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington. We're good.
FSU is going to the Big10.
Yes, FSU finally figured out that the SEC had no (or lost) interest, that's why there was a big swing towards favoring the B1G.
@@randycrownover5580 didn't you watch the video???
SEC has no reason to add Clemson/FSU. They don't need the brands, the markets or the recruiting soil.
They can sit back and see what happens then offer a few ACC schools at reduced pay outs.
Avoid the blame for tearing it down and come out ahead financially.
B1G has a desire for the brand, markets and recruiting soil with the biggest caveat of forcing ND to join.
So that makes the most sense. Clemson, FSU to B1G.
SEC/ESPN comes out ahead if they can kill off the ACC deal but not if they merely pay more for brands they already own.
So again, financially it makes a ton of sense for B1G to make first move and pick off biggest brands, SEC to respond with offer at reduced rates to next most appealing schools, then a tip of ESPN cap to 3rd tier schools letting them know they should jump to Big 12 because reduced rate ACC deal will be significantly less.
That total attrition would force ACC to accept far less for the remaining 10 or so schools.
I see the SEC offering spots to Clemson and UNC, but Florida has been vocal in not wanting FSU in the SEC.
Honestly, Clemson would lose money in their away game tickets if they were in the BIG 10.
It's just the exact same stories being repeated over and over and over and over and over...yes, we know...we've heard it a thousand times..."the SEC has no interest in" blah, blah, blah. The second that FSU and Clemson are out of the ACC and looking like they are about to join the B1G, the SEC will suddenly get very interested.
So you're saying the other schools in the SEC will vote to lose money?
Eventually there will only be the Big ten and sec and FSU definitely along with Notre Dame will be the first two phone calls
As long as FSU and CU don’t diminish the SEC payout - and they won’t - the SEC will invite both.
@@LEE_65 If the B1G adds Clemson and FSU, they would clearly take over the position of best football conference and give FOX a financial edge over ESPN. The SEC would be losing money in the long run if that were to happen.
@@LEE_65 same talking points different day
Good ... I don't want the SEC to have ANY interest in FSU. Most FSU fans that I have spoken to have ZERO interest in joining the SEC (sadly there are some) but generally no.
These fsu and clemson fans took this to the heart no one care bout y’all like tht y’all ain’t as good and important as y’all thought😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is this english? Oh wait, it's Alabama...
Chief Osceola says, "F-You, Sankey" 🤣
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
Only teams the SEC is interested in is North Carolina and UVA
Is ESPN interested in them? Both teams are literally the bottom of the ACC in tv football tv ratings
UNC and UVA see themselves as a better academic fit for the B1G. Book it.
@@vistatiger7493 UNC is now heavily leaning SEC. UVA appears to remain "never SEC".
NC want leave the ACC people outside out state dont understand the politics here!
@@jmath1978 Ignoring political influence, UNC will leave the ACC to maintain its current athletics and pursue its ambitions.
The FSU and Clemson have to realize that it is neither the SEC nor the Big 10's job to invite them. The Big 10 is making over $60 million without adding FSU and Clemson. Furthermore, OSU has gotten Floridians Cris Carter, Joey Bosa nad Jeremiah Smith without FSU. The SEC and Big 10's jobs are to sustain themselves not help those out of network.
Clueless
You have a TV show with those insights...yikes
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
@CarlaJenkinsTV Chris Carter is from Ohio not Florida Google it. He's from Troy, OH and went to Middletown High School
Fsu facilities sorry
😂. Sure Skippy……
It doesnt matter if the SEC OR want FSU! FSU will never ever win another football national championship when or if they leave the ACC this goes for Cleamson aswell. These 2 ungrateful programs have benefited and won national Championships playing a weaker ACC schedule but there heads are to big to see that they will make more money how ever but no more national Championships believe that!
No interest 😂. Give me a break. FSU has no interest in the SEC. B🍢G
Boy did you almost just sound smart then ya blew it
Did that trigger you? If you didn't want the SEC, then why would one man's opinion bother you? Or do you just want to be wanted?
FSU ducked the SEC in the 90's and they'll duck us again.
You don’t think they’d jump at that money?
Then why are they so unhappy?
@@chuckwest7045Yeah, that’s why FSU has an all-time winning record against the SEC. Crawl back to your trailer park with that one, bubba.
I believe that FSU will be in the SEC. There isn’t a great financial argument for any other conference that isn’t short sighted . While the money in a TV contract may be close between the Big 10 and the SEC, the money is in the attendance and money into the local economy . The same things that hurt the ACC would be the issue with the Big 10. Those schools may travel because it’s the first time in Tallahassee. After the novelty wears off, you have an awful home schedule for FSU. With the SEC , all of that goes away. The SEC is the right fit culturally , geographically and financially for the greater FSU community.