this is nothing! ... you haven't said anything useful for people here!... Better yet, tell us how to become very rich! have a lot of money and buy your own premises and your studio! and I will make music and sound and melodies - millions of times better - than all of you put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is what people really need! so far - I haven’t heard a single beautiful melody or music at all! Leonid M from Germany
There's a Paul McCartney interview in the early 90s saying the exact same thing about deciding what takes to use. He says something like "if anyone hears a mistake, it's probably a very good take". I never quite got it, but now I do.
It's very common to hear this. Small mistakes make it sound natural, and can be very useful if 2 or more takes are mixed together. This is why programmed instruments don't have that magic.
@@NicStride its the difference lower and higher harmonics. If you have soundtoys decapitator crank it up a bit then switch between the A and E settings and I think that demonstrated it pretty well!
@@spiritparty That's true! In the last few months I've also learned a lot about digital distortion and aliasing. I guess analog distortion doesn't have aliasing, so would definitely be clearer sounding, and will make things pop more, whereas digital distortion without oversampling might muddy up a mix somewhat. :)
@@FakingANerve Playing with phase is such a great thing to do. Even just testing a basic phase flip will show you if it's an issue or if it's adding some magic.
@@mrcassette Checking phase is indeed a basic thing to do, but that's not what we are referring to. Shifting something slightly out of phase as a creative tool is what we're referring to, and I've never heard someone mention that for mixed sources.
@@FakingANerve I know that. I was just saying it's a good trick to see "if it's adding some magic", aside from regular phase checking. . Anything using parallel distortion will add phase issues, sometimes for great effect, other times it loses some spark.
@@bille77 With the music he's working on in this clip (not to mention the fact that being the mix engineer for records by Nick Cave makes him a bit of an authority) and the fact that it suits how he works, it's not bullshit. I would rather work like that too: putting 2 tube preamps on the mix bus to add a certain flavour will always be more preferable to me, for example, given the choice... He has the choice and he has the credits and the platform to back it up.
I was mixing an acoustic project today. I used three microphones on the acoustic guitar and a room mic. When I started processing the guitar in mixdown I noticed the sound of his bracelet/jewelry/whatever he was wearing knocking against the guitar while he was strumming. It was mostly picked up by one of the three mics but I decided to keep the sound upfront because I felt like it had a lot of character and it wasnt too distracting. Im glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way 👀 One record I did I was asked to cut out the noise of the guitarist on parts where the stool was making some noise which was a bummer because I thought it sounded really organic, like you were there in the room with them. Don't get me wrong, I love using drum samples, super tight editing and all the things we can do to make everything perfect now but... Sometimes theres happy accidents like Bob Ross always talked about in painting 😅
Wow! Thank you. I heard the click of the guitar pedal on satisfaction. I've listened to that song my whole life and never heard that or the mistiming. What a revelation. Great message about emotion over 'correctness'.
One of the most underrated producers! He has done so many great records. Good to hear such advice about getting takes that have feeling rather than focusing on perfection.
What a great song, BRMC is a really underrated band, it's been years since I don't listen at least one of their songs a day, every album is a greatest hits!
The reason the Stones weren't happy with the release of Satisfaction is cos it was only a demo recording, never intended to be a major release.. they only found out about it after the record company had released it.. hindsight shows it didn't matter, as it was clearly good enough, but Keef heard his guitar line originally in his head as a horn section part.. they probably didn't care too much about small issues in the recording, as they would've been thinking they'd get it right later on..
I have heard the masters of Marvin Gaye what's going on and when you hear the takes by themselves it is amazing the amount of mistakes, leaked noises and oher stuff in there. I think those older recordings are so valuable and the sound today is incredible considering the technology.
You're right! That's actually the reason he started using the Maestro FZ-1 fuzz because back then it was being sold as a way to get "horn" sounds on guitar! Today, people pay anywhere from $600-$1200 for "boutique" versions of that fuzz circuit. An incredibly simple circuit indeed! Funny to think how one band's haphazard demo spawned a generation of music, as well as a massive sub culture of music gear with effect pedals. Fuzz pedals in particular.
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Yep.. Keef envisaged horns playing that now famous riff when they finally got to the proper recording.. but one has to accept that the record company got it right by releasing the demo.. they went huge after this.
This song Echo by BRMC is a masterpiece! The chorus is just brilliant and then fuck me its like another chorus towards the end that beats the first! Crank it up loud and close your eyes, you wont know where you fuckin are when it finishes. The dark sound that Nick creates with this album is truly genius. The drums sound very flabby with hardly any sparkle to them (which works with the vibe) but yet he still gets them to cut through the wall of sound. Just brilliant!
I know it's not relevant to the topic , but i really wanna know what's the name of this style of jackets. It's truly looking awesome. somebody reply if u knew by any chance. tnx
I’ve never listened to him talk about his work before and I really love his vibe. I’m a professional musician, songwriter and light producer. I really get bummed with how heavily edited, quantized and pitch corrected modern popular music is. I can’t wait until trends swing away from that again. Music doesn’t feel very human when everything’s grided tightly. I was listening to an old favorite hit record recently and was sudden mortified by how pitchy the singing was. What’s happened to our ears!!!
Does anyone know what that keyboard sitting above his Apple Mac computer keyboard is? It looks like it's some kind of configurable color-coded keyboard for ProTools macros or functions, but it's hard to tell from the video.
I'd love to be able to leave mistakes in but I am not a very good instrumentalist so I'm always afraid people would think that I just suck so I try to make everything as perfect as I am able to (as a solo rock music artist).
People will NOT know you made those mistakes. It doesn't matter. Don't try to be perfect : rock music isn't perfect. If you want perfect then learn how to play Chopin ;)
seems like the difference between amateur and pro is the depth. I hear so many stale mixes lately since everything is straight into an interface/samples. That being said, even with early sampled drums in the 80s/90s there is still a ton of depth. I really need to get the depth part down to take it to the next level
Apparently Keith Richards thought they were just doing a demo, and the fuzz guitar was just a blue print for brass parts.. there manager thought it sounded great and started the ball rolling for its release... so the story goes
You looking at his board right.😁😄🤣😆 just create a stereo aux and add a couple of harmonic distortions with compression and a eq with trim, and a K14 meter at the end. Job done..boom.💥💥💥💥💥
Analog equipment generally is really old technology and still very expensive. Costs of equipment production are very low nowadays but pricing is still “from the moon”...keeping high prices of audio equipment is supporting monopoly in both, showbiz and audio equipment market. Nearly 20 years of plugins development also didn’t change much...since 20 YEARS they sell the best sounding plugins (as advertised) but somehow plugins still sound bad or close to the analog sound... Btw masters won’t tell you what is their best kept secret anyway! ...😂
this is nothing! ... you haven't said anything useful for people here!... Better yet, tell us how to become very rich! have a lot of money and buy your own premises and your studio! and I will make music and sound and melodies - millions of times better - than all of you put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is what people really need! so far - I haven’t heard a single beautiful melody or music at all! Leonid M from Germany
Hi. 🙂 Please, let us pray together. Dear God who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever in Jesus Christ's name we pray amen. 1 Corinthians 16:14 Let all that you do be done in love. Philippians 4:19 And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 1:2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. May all suffering end as we give thanks this day. May God's face shine upon us forever on Earth as it is in Heaven in Jesus Christ's name we pray for His name and for His sake. Amen.
this is nothing! ... you haven't said anything useful for people here!... Better yet, tell us how to become very rich! have a lot of money and buy your own premises and your studio! and I will make music and sound and melodies - millions of times better - than all of you put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is what people really need! so far - I haven’t heard a single beautiful melody or music at all! Leonid M from Germany
Full video available exclusively on mwtm.org/nl-echo-distortion
this is nothing! ... you haven't said anything useful for people here!...
Better yet, tell us how to become very rich! have a lot of money and buy your own premises and your studio! and I will make music and sound and melodies - millions of times better - than all of you put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what people really need!
so far - I haven’t heard a single beautiful melody or music at all!
Leonid M from Germany
"I urge you record makers out there to make mood and feeling the most important thing..."
I accept your plead, sir.
There's a Paul McCartney interview in the early 90s saying the exact same thing about deciding what takes to use. He says something like "if anyone hears a mistake, it's probably a very good take". I never quite got it, but now I do.
It's very common to hear this. Small mistakes make it sound natural, and can be very useful if 2 or more takes are mixed together. This is why programmed instruments don't have that magic.
"The desk adds distortion and clarity". It also adds conflict and peace.
I think he was articulating the difference between muddy distortion and clear distortion.
@@terrymiller111 Can you give me a definition of when distortion is 'clear' and when it's 'muddy'? :P
@@NicStride its the difference lower and higher harmonics. If you have soundtoys decapitator crank it up a bit then switch between the A and E settings and I think that demonstrated it pretty well!
@@spiritparty That's true! In the last few months I've also learned a lot about digital distortion and aliasing.
I guess analog distortion doesn't have aliasing, so would definitely be clearer sounding, and will make things pop more, whereas digital distortion without oversampling might muddy up a mix somewhat. :)
That one lesson about bass phase is enough to be an entire lecture. A wealth of knowledge in this video, thanks!
Absolutely! That was something I've never seen before, and now I can't wait to try it. 🤩
@@FakingANerve Playing with phase is such a great thing to do. Even just testing a basic phase flip will show you if it's an issue or if it's adding some magic.
@@mrcassette Checking phase is indeed a basic thing to do, but that's not what we are referring to. Shifting something slightly out of phase as a creative tool is what we're referring to, and I've never heard someone mention that for mixed sources.
@@FakingANerve I know that. I was just saying it's a good trick to see "if it's adding some magic", aside from regular phase checking. . Anything using parallel distortion will add phase issues, sometimes for great effect, other times it loses some spark.
@@mrcassette oh, gotcha - I completely misunderstood your post. Yeah, it's quite a neat trick to keep in mind! 🍻
That room sound is glorious
Such important insight. I really think this level of humility is inspirational.
👊👌
Huh? The belief you need analog outboard gear to "warm the mix a bit" is frankly BS.
@@bille77 i believe he said it adds certain unique harmonic distortion, in this case the desk uses api? I think thats what he said. Let him be my bro
@@bille77 What are your credits already ?
@@bille77 With the music he's working on in this clip (not to mention the fact that being the mix engineer for records by Nick Cave makes him a bit of an authority) and the fact that it suits how he works, it's not bullshit. I would rather work like that too: putting 2 tube preamps on the mix bus to add a certain flavour will always be more preferable to me, for example, given the choice... He has the choice and he has the credits and the platform to back it up.
I was mixing an acoustic project today. I used three microphones on the acoustic guitar and a room mic.
When I started processing the guitar in mixdown I noticed the sound of his bracelet/jewelry/whatever he was wearing knocking against the guitar while he was strumming.
It was mostly picked up by one of the three mics but I decided to keep the sound upfront because I felt like it had a lot of character and it wasnt too distracting.
Im glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way 👀
One record I did I was asked to cut out the noise of the guitarist on parts where the stool was making some noise which was a bummer because I thought it sounded really organic, like you were there in the room with them.
Don't get me wrong, I love using drum samples, super tight editing and all the things we can do to make everything perfect now but... Sometimes theres happy accidents like Bob Ross always talked about in painting 😅
Wow! Thank you. I heard the click of the guitar pedal on satisfaction. I've listened to that song my whole life and never heard that or the mistiming. What a revelation. Great message about emotion over 'correctness'.
One of the most underrated producers! He has done so many great records. Good to hear such advice about getting takes that have feeling rather than focusing on perfection.
Nick, your drum sound on Ultra Mono is insanely cool. Sounds like the biggest drums in a tiny room. Magic.
It's wonderful to ear someone explaining with his words what you are feeling with your ears.
nothing i hated more about studio work that hearing Fartists using words to describe sounds. it's hell. truly makes you realize how thick they are.
Drum sound kicks ass. I really like the brushes and that ‘basketball’ ring over the kick
That was such a cool surprise, had no idea yet what band he was talking about yet until Peter Hayes came through the speakers
What a great song, BRMC is a really underrated band, it's been years since I don't listen at least one of their songs a day, every album is a greatest hits!
He really got some knobs on his desk! Must be fun just turning every one randomly!
Never knew that Jack Sparrow's cousin did sound engineering.
😂😂😂😂😂 classic
😂😂😂😂
The reason the Stones weren't happy with the release of Satisfaction is cos it was only a demo recording, never intended to be a major release.. they only found out about it after the record company had released it.. hindsight shows it didn't matter, as it was clearly good enough, but Keef heard his guitar line originally in his head as a horn section part.. they probably didn't care too much about small issues in the recording, as they would've been thinking they'd get it right later on..
I have heard the masters of Marvin Gaye what's going on and when you hear the takes by themselves it is amazing the amount of mistakes, leaked noises and oher stuff in there.
I think those older recordings are so valuable and the sound today is incredible considering the technology.
You're right! That's actually the reason he started using the Maestro FZ-1 fuzz because back then it was being sold as a way to get "horn" sounds on guitar!
Today, people pay anywhere from $600-$1200 for "boutique" versions of that fuzz circuit. An incredibly simple circuit indeed! Funny to think how one band's haphazard demo spawned a generation of music, as well as a massive sub culture of music gear with effect pedals. Fuzz pedals in particular.
@@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Yep.. Keef envisaged horns playing that now famous riff when they finally got to the proper recording.. but one has to accept that the record company got it right by releasing the demo.. they went huge after this.
Oh man, that board... 😍
Really want to mix like that one day 😊
This song Echo by BRMC is a masterpiece! The chorus is just brilliant and then fuck me its like another chorus towards the end that beats the first! Crank it up loud and close your eyes, you wont know where you fuckin are when it finishes. The dark sound that Nick creates with this album is truly genius. The drums sound very flabby with hardly any sparkle to them
(which works with the vibe) but yet he still gets them to cut through the wall of sound. Just brilliant!
I know it's not relevant to the topic , but i really wanna know what's the name of this style of jackets.
It's truly looking awesome.
somebody reply if u knew by any chance.
tnx
@@JohnLysonmusic Classic Military infantry Tunic style jackets dude got a couple myself
I know this is a mix video but I'm diggin' that jacket!!! 😁
couldn't pull it off
Damn this guy is an ebsuluuutleee legend
I’ve never listened to him talk about his work before and I really love his vibe. I’m a professional musician, songwriter and light producer. I really get bummed with how heavily edited, quantized and pitch corrected modern popular music is. I can’t wait until trends swing away from that again. Music doesn’t feel very human when everything’s grided tightly. I was listening to an old favorite hit record recently and was sudden mortified by how pitchy the singing was. What’s happened to our ears!!!
Top advice at the end, music has gone so sterile. There's magic in mistakes sometimes, learn to recognize the magic
Nice words, beautiful desk
Very important insight here! Love it
Frank Gallagher nailing that mix.
must be blind
Go listen to Nux Vomica by The Veils which Nick Launay produced. It is a masterpiece of mood.
Great record!
John Wick stabbing the Mix
Insightful and very cool
There’s no plug-in for ears, taste, and experience.
@04:06 what are the yellow and blue automation lines? I've never seen two automation lines viewed in parallel on the same track.
what's the keyboard behind the regular keyboard ???
Does anyone know what that keyboard sitting above his Apple Mac computer keyboard is? It looks like it's some kind of configurable color-coded keyboard for ProTools macros or functions, but it's hard to tell from the video.
really great dude!
*EXCELLENT VIDEO*
wow, you don't have to even be in this genre...his class is incredible! wow!
que grande Iggy Pop dando clases de producción musical.
A very informative channel can we please see dirty loops music mixing sessions
I'd love to be able to leave mistakes in but I am not a very good instrumentalist so I'm always afraid people would think that I just suck so I try to make everything as perfect as I am able to (as a solo rock music artist).
People will NOT know you made those mistakes. It doesn't matter. Don't try to be perfect : rock music isn't perfect. If you want perfect then learn how to play Chopin ;)
What a class... thank you
Nice military jacket mon ami!
Is it a 'Wornstar?' 🤔
Best wishes from an Englishman in a French forest. 🌞
Thought this was Kevin Parker!
Didn’t know keanu Reeves mixes too🤷♂️
Awesome
seems like the difference between amateur and pro is the depth. I hear so many stale mixes lately since everything is straight into an interface/samples. That being said, even with early sampled drums in the 80s/90s there is still a ton of depth. I really need to get the depth part down to take it to the next level
This guy produced Midnight Oil 10 to 1.
Brilliant.
Thank you
Is this kevin parker in 30 years??
Not only is Nick an amazing record producer, he also loves the same food I do. :) He has been a wonderful teacher!
What's his favorite food? You worked with him? Nice :)
Right sir
I didn't know Catweasels brother was a mix engineer 🤔
Cool 😎
What console?
Whats a DI ?
I always leave mistakes in.. Well, within a reasonable threshold.,
Apparently Keith Richards thought they were just doing a demo, and the fuzz guitar was just a blue print for brass parts.. there manager thought it sounded great and started the ball rolling for its release... so the story goes
Make Mood!
wow hes come from since shameless
what?
....yeah
Don't comment drunk noel. He looks like the lead in shameless UK.
As a listener we don’t notice these mistakes so don’t overthink it wannabe engineers.
F*** me, this is some serious wisdom for somebody who never been in the industry. You're extremely right!
@@jas_bataille I know right.
Pls sir purchase shampoo
You looking at his board right.😁😄🤣😆 just create a stereo aux and add a couple of harmonic distortions with compression and a eq with trim, and a K14 meter at the end. Job done..boom.💥💥💥💥💥
He Okay????
Man u change the whole sound of the band.... Then when they play live they sound like shaaaaaatttttt
Why mix with the master is not free god 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Analog equipment generally is really old technology and still very expensive. Costs of equipment production are very low nowadays but pricing is still “from the moon”...keeping high prices of audio equipment is supporting monopoly in both, showbiz and audio equipment market. Nearly 20 years of plugins development also didn’t change much...since 20 YEARS they sell the best sounding plugins (as advertised) but somehow plugins still sound bad or close to the analog sound...
Btw masters won’t tell you what is their best kept secret anyway! ...😂
the secret is years of practice and experience, active learning, and grit
@@sam-you-is Partly true. Time, money, luck and support of all kinds also pay a role here. Psychology as well.
@@amazeus1980 thats fair
"How did this homeless guy came into my studio? "
💇♂️ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Muita conversa, mal consigo ouvir o efeito!
I'm sure he is not mixing with those hair down....
this is nothing! ... you haven't said anything useful for people here!...
Better yet, tell us how to become very rich! have a lot of money and buy your own premises and your studio! and I will make music and sound and melodies - millions of times better - than all of you put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what people really need!
so far - I haven’t heard a single beautiful melody or music at all!
Leonid M from Germany
I think it was the music and the performance, not the click of a mistake. Just saying.
*To the Early Squad Reading This: Sending Virtual Hugs to Everyone Who Needs It. Stay Safe. Read My Name btw 💕*
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Shameless mixing
Hi. 🙂
Please, let us pray together. Dear God who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever in Jesus Christ's name we pray amen.
1 Corinthians 16:14
Let all that you do be done in love.
Philippians 4:19
And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:2
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
May all suffering end as we give thanks this day. May God's face shine upon us forever on Earth as it is in Heaven in Jesus Christ's name we pray for His name and for His sake. Amen.
Weird compression ratios though.
@@Charlyfromthenuclearcity Dude! 😂😂😂
this is nothing! ... you haven't said anything useful for people here!...
Better yet, tell us how to become very rich! have a lot of money and buy your own premises and your studio! and I will make music and sound and melodies - millions of times better - than all of you put together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what people really need!
so far - I haven’t heard a single beautiful melody or music at all!
Leonid M from Germany