If there’s a quick profit to be made, corners will be cut. Not all are so unscrupulous. But too many are and they get away with it until disaster strikes. I think being trapped in a burning tower must be one of the worst things ever. I don’t know what the status is of those responsible but I hope they feel the full weight of the law and more importantly, oversight improved so that such tragedies don’t happen in the first place.
Please check out the Summerland fire , 1973……if you havnt already ….. very similar circumstances, flammable outer cladding caused over 50 deaths within the complex….till Grenfell, it was the worst peace time fire in the uk 😔
What was the date this aired? You uploaded it 2 months ago, but it seems a few years old. The card to click on your next video covered the closing titles, so if there was a date there (or any other interesting info), I couldn't see it. Is there really no new information in the last 3-4 years, or is this just old?
The refurbishment was so badly done it almost feels like it was INTENDED to catch fire and destroy the entire building. Almost every single safety feature the building ever had was defeated by the cladding, plastic window frames, and the breached compartments.
I can understand the stay in place rule if the fire stay contained to one or two units but the second it started going up the building (no longer contained) I don't understand how stay in place was considered a good plan at all. I was always taught to get out of a burning building regardless of the size of the fire.
exactly right. Make them live there. Seriously. Experiencing things first hand is for some the only way to get some kind of understanding of the real world.
Paul Martin lives near me he has acres of land with a golf course his house looks like a motel and around the corner people are living in poverty ! It seems like the government doesn't care because they are making big bucks ..
“The lifts did not comply with fire safety rules and were unavailable for fire fighters to use” Is that something common in the UK, to use elevators during a fire? That sounds completely insane.
This is so hard to watch. I can't help but to become overwhelmed by emotions. The fear that ran through the people, the trauma that still affects those who survived, the sadness that fills everyone.
Just an example of how money is the root of all evil. The richest council in the UK wanted to redevelop the area to be able to sell big plots of land for massive amounts of money, so more expensive properties could be built to "improve" the residents of the area and rake in more council rates on higher value properties. Then to end up doing a refurbishment using shoddy and inappropriate materials that failed to meet any reasonable modern standards for fire safety and save another £1 million pounds plus further highlights the greed of the council. There is little doubt in any reasonable persons mind that the people responsible for the manslaughter of 73 people are the councillors and contractors involved in the refurbishment, and they should spend a long time in jail considering whether the money was worth it. It also highlights the ongoing systemic faults of governments of the UK in addressing the housing crisis in the UK and what is fundamentally atrocious urban planning.
Am I the only one wondering how "stay put" in a building on fire is a good idea? I was a volunteer fire brigadeer at my previous company. As soon as the alarm sound we should ALL EVACUATE the building.
No! Stay put is the safest method for dealing with a high rise tower that is properly compartmentalised. I live in one of these high rises. There have been fires that have happened while I've been in, that I never even knew about and they have never escaped the flat in which they started because my block is properly compartmentalised. It is far safer to not fill the stairs with lots of people blocking and impeding emergency services. You only evacuate the flats surrounding the one on fire. Of course, if the fire spreads like at Grenfell (which it really, really shouldn't do) then you evacuate the whole building.
The council members and contractor ownership should be criminally charged with negligent manslaghter for every death involved. Looks they took the cheapest route on a building they originally wanted to tear down, but couldn't.
So sad that lessons were not learnt from the Summerland Fire in 1973, on the Isle of Man which until this tragic event, was the UKs worst loss of life by a fire in peace time…..and was mainly due to flammable oroglas plastic cladding….😔
How weird.. I couldn't sleep last night and this horrific tragedy randomly crossed my mind. I started watching videos about it and couldn't stop crying all over again. I will never forget watching it live and feeling so hopeless for so many innocent people and those drying who were trying to make a better life for themselves. Thank you for making this documentary, Grenfell needs to never be forgotten.
@arm: I’m in Canada but was born in England. I may be thousands of miles away but my heart is always with my homeland. I guarantee you I will never forget it; my thoughts are always with those poor, terrified people! It was just sickening to see silhouettes of the residents at the windows … trapped between fire right outside their window frames and fire coming through their apartment doors! An unreal nightmare!
There’s this excellent quote in German that’s concise and to the point: wer billig kauft, kauft teuer. Translated: You buy buy cheap crap, you’re actually buying at a steep price. And it’s true. All the cheap crap comes at an extremely high cost down the line. We’ll always pay for the cheap underpaid stuff. Always.
What a horrible tragedy and still to this day not enough has been done for the victims and those who survived. They set these ppl up for their deaths and didn’t care and in many ways they still don’t. I’m so disappointed by this nonsense, these were vulnerable ppl with families. We have more than enough resources to make sure these things don’t happen, we know how to build fire safe buildings! Why do these things keep happening in an advanced society. I just shake my head. We’ve lost the plot when we put money above human lives. It’s so sick.
In a fire in a high-rise, move down if you can. If smoke's the only problem, try to wet a t-shirt and hold it over your mouth and feel your way down the stairs as quickly as you can while keeping one hand on a railing or wall, because you might trip on someone and fall or get lost if you don't. If you don't collapse you'll eventually make it below the smoke, assuming the fire isn't on the first floor. If it is, get to the lowest floor you can reach and try to get down from a window. Jump, climb, see if people can catch you or at least put down a mattress, whatever. And yeah, smoke is also lethal, most people who die in fires suffocate in their sleep and died before the fire even reached them. But if the building becomes fully engulfed, or just your area is, you'll die either way so you may as well try to get out before either one can kill you.
The worst building fire ever! I cannot believe how people were still unaware that their building was on fire! What happened to the fire alarm system dude?? This was unbelievably horrifying on so many levels! It's traumatizing just watching this preventable tragedy in the 21st century. Whoever approved and doing the regular fire safety inspection of this building were so questionable I guess. Any latest updates on this case?
A lot of buildings in my area have been getting these insulation covers in the recent years, including the one i live in. I hope they did it correctly and not try to save money by doing it cheap May those who passed find peace and i hope this doesn't repeat
the stay inside rule is Pathetic, if you are ever in this situation Do not listen to anyone, get out as safely as you can, having a rule and telling people to stay put is Pathetic and stupendous.
The worst thing is, Still UK got the powerful approving authority of many Fire System Products around the world. People trust that they are the most advanced technology to test the products with marks like UL/FM certifications and many more. From now, as Fire systems Specialist think twice about their integrity.
There are building’s around the world built with the most Toxic materials known to man yet upon completion the local inspector’s sign off the occupancy permit…. People should have gone to jail…
😢This is the first time I have watched any docu or report about this awful tragedy. Whoever constructed this block of residences, the architect responsible, the Council who owned or ran it and were responsible for the day to day tickover and whoever was the penny-pinching, miser who ordered and saw used 'cheap unsuitable materials' which were NOT Fire Resistant surely MUST face Criminal Charges of 68 (or however many perished) counts of Manslaughter, AND Civil Charges and Named Publicly! Seeing all those poor people waving and screaming for help took me straight back to 9/11.
No penalties for Celotex using non combustible boards for their combustible insulation RS5000 to pass fire safety tests or Kingspan for using fire safety tests based on a discontinued product with a different spec to the product marketed, or for Celotex and Kingspan representing their products as safe for tall buildings or for Arconic for selling cladding of Aluminium with a polyethylene core , 38:48 the equivalent of wrapping the building in petrol per the enquiry, to Grenfelll even though they knew it was a high rise. Arconic wrote that UK regulations were less restrictive "even if we know that PE material in cassette has a bad behaviour exposed to fire, we can still work with national regulations who are not as restrictive." No penalties for the company applying the cladding with gaps that acted like chimneys for the spread of the fire. 72 dead that we know of.
Why is it a monument? Why isnt the government allowing engineers to examine the structure. A similar situation in NY when we had a buildings girders were moved by trucks to another location without access to the structure. Seems similar
they have been examined on site. And I'm sure debris was taken away and inspected. It didn't fall down because it's made of concrete and not steel, plus there wasn't plane fuel or other accelerants that burn at the temperatures required to take the building down.
I know. They aren't really to blame though. The whole thing was bound to lead to disaster. Like 911, why didn't a helicopter pick people off the roof? Makes you wonder if they've figured out this problem at all yet. My neighbour (a doctor) refused to stay above the 3 or 4th floor in hotels (I can't remember which floor), essentially not higher than the fireman's ladders reach.
With all the debris falling…..burning liquid plastics, etc……airbag would have been punctured, wasting the resources to set it up, rather then going internal and making rescues
@@Lili-xq9sn Smart of him. I hate the thought of being on high floors in buildings too. The only advantage they have is that in a pancaking event if you're on the top floor you might survive, but in all other disasters you'll just be more vulnerable. Okay, maybe not floods- you may want to be above the ground floor in case of a severe flood. But almost every other disaster.
41:24- tell the world you don't know the difference between racism and classism without saying it outright. It's sad to see this kind of nonsense pushed, further dividing the majority of us for political points. Was there only one race of people living there? No, it was a class of good and honest everyday people like the rest of us working everyday jobs to provide for their families. But hey, whatever. Everything and everyone is racist in this day and age I guess.
Well the two do often go together. But in today's world classism is the greater problem. Most people aren't racist, but will happily keep supporting a political system that keeps funneling money to the rich at their expense. It's kind of baffling how easily people can can be convinced to vote against their own best interests. Of course when every option is against their interests to some degree that becomes inevitable.
Is there any government in the world that cares about the most vulnerable? If there is somebody please let me know. I'm not kidding I really want to know.
London should have learned from the experience of America and 9/11. It is irresponsible to build buildings like that and send firemen to their deaths or put people in housing that they can't get out of in a fire
The gifts of capitalism. Greed is a symptom, not a cause unto itself. It is the rewards and incentives of capitalism that cause such murderous unaccountable greed.
How can there be absolutely NO BONES FOUND IN THE STRUCTURE after the fire? Can a FIRE THIS INTENSE MELT BONES?? I KNOW FIRES and there would be at least one bone. There are videos that show the debre in the rooms and the fire wasnt that intense. Where are the bone fragments??
Crackpot commando Arthur William Abernethy Devan miser vennila buntong flat Tom Cherian Lungi mama kunjumama Vel Paari sanglimuthu scammers thieves bloody cheats
So, we're just going to step over the fact that an Ethiopian immigrant thought it would be a good idea to cook a meal hibachi-style in a modern western apartment as though he were in a mud hut? The building materials certainly made things worse, but I'd say England has bigger problems with who it lets into their country. Here's to their "vibrant" culture!
The fire was started by a faulty refrigerator and exacerbated by a type of cladding that was involved in several fires all over the world. People died here unnecessarily and you want to bring on the race politics? You have no shame dude.
Started to get too much involved "& propagating" race, culture & political theories... Had to leave.. with no thumbs up or down.. The cladding information etc, was interesting! As they gradually talked more about the other "information" 🙄.. - I don't need this! All I can say *RIP to the casualties.* That's all......
I just want to say something when I see this hole building burning from ground up and it does not collapse How the hell did the twin towers collapse then?
In the twin towers case there were extra complications.....damage from the impacts, dislodged spray-on fireproofing and long-span floor trusses that were uniquely vulnerable to fire attack.
911, The airplanes that hit the towers were filled up with airplane fuel, they had just begun their cross-country flight. So they were essentially like a bomb exploding within the towers, the fuel flowed down also....it just was too hot and the steel etc.failed.
When the steel at the point of impact failed, there was nothing to hold up the upper floors, then the upper portion of the building just fell straight down.
If there’s a quick profit to be made, corners will be cut. Not all are so unscrupulous. But too many are and they get away with it until disaster strikes. I think being trapped in a burning tower must be one of the worst things ever. I don’t know
what the status is of those responsible but I hope
they feel the full weight of the law and more importantly, oversight improved so that such tragedies don’t happen in the first place.
The variety and effort that goes into this amazing channel is so appreciated.
Please check out the Summerland fire , 1973……if you havnt already ….. very similar circumstances, flammable outer cladding caused over 50 deaths within the complex….till Grenfell, it was the worst peace time fire in the uk 😔
What was the date this aired? You uploaded it 2 months ago, but it seems a few years old. The card to click on your next video covered the closing titles, so if there was a date there (or any other interesting info), I couldn't see it. Is there really no new information in the last 3-4 years, or is this just old?
The refurbishment was so badly done it almost feels like it was INTENDED to catch fire and destroy the entire building. Almost every single safety feature the building ever had was defeated by the cladding, plastic window frames, and the breached compartments.
5 years have passed and still no arrests. That's a travesty.
The time passes......the weight lessers........then everything goes normal.
I can understand the stay in place rule if the fire stay contained to one or two units but the second it started going up the building (no longer contained) I don't understand how stay in place was considered a good plan at all. I was always taught to get out of a burning building regardless of the size of the fire.
I know. If there's fire, get out fast no matter what anyone tells you.
Nope, doesn't make sense. If a unit is on fire, evacuate the building until the fire is put out. Then you can let people back in.
Profit before safety, the politicians will never live in these apartments themself so they don't care.
exactly right. Make them live there. Seriously. Experiencing things first hand is for some the only way to get some kind of understanding of the real world.
Or you buy insurance bring it down on purpose and make 5.5 billion like 9 / / and Larry Slitherstein.
Couldn't have said it any better
To be fair…these are the politicians people elected.
Paul Martin lives near me he has acres of land with a golf course his house looks like a motel and around the corner people are living in poverty ! It seems like the government doesn't care because they are making big bucks ..
“The lifts did not comply with fire safety rules and were unavailable for fire fighters to use”
Is that something common in the UK, to use elevators during a fire? That sounds completely insane.
This is so hard to watch. I can't help but to become overwhelmed by emotions. The fear that ran through the people, the trauma that still affects those who survived, the sadness that fills everyone.
Disgraceful that this can happen in this day and age. The structure is clearly a high risk fire hazards. Criminal negligence it is.
So was 9 / /
Just an example of how money is the root of all evil. The richest council in the UK wanted to redevelop the area to be able to sell big plots of land for massive amounts of money, so more expensive properties could be built to "improve" the residents of the area and rake in more council rates on higher value properties. Then to end up doing a refurbishment using shoddy and inappropriate materials that failed to meet any reasonable modern standards for fire safety and save another £1 million pounds plus further highlights the greed of the council. There is little doubt in any reasonable persons mind that the people responsible for the manslaughter of 73 people are the councillors and contractors involved in the refurbishment, and they should spend a long time in jail considering whether the money was worth it. It also highlights the ongoing systemic faults of governments of the UK in addressing the housing crisis in the UK and what is fundamentally atrocious urban planning.
Hmm 🤔
This is why building codes are so important. Peoples’ lives are literally at risk
Am I the only one wondering how "stay put" in a building on fire is a good idea?
I was a volunteer fire brigadeer at my previous company. As soon as the alarm sound we should ALL EVACUATE the building.
Yes!
No! Stay put is the safest method for dealing with a high rise tower that is properly compartmentalised. I live in one of these high rises. There have been fires that have happened while I've been in, that I never even knew about and they have never escaped the flat in which they started because my block is properly compartmentalised. It is far safer to not fill the stairs with lots of people blocking and impeding emergency services. You only evacuate the flats surrounding the one on fire.
Of course, if the fire spreads like at Grenfell (which it really, really shouldn't do) then you evacuate the whole building.
Wait....what?!! No sprinklers?!!! That and the cladding was a disaster waiting to happened
The council members and contractor ownership should be criminally charged with negligent manslaghter for every death involved. Looks they took the cheapest route on a building they originally wanted to tear down, but couldn't.
So sad that lessons were not learnt from the Summerland Fire in 1973, on the Isle of Man which until this tragic event, was the UKs worst loss of life by a fire in peace time…..and was mainly due to flammable oroglas plastic cladding….😔
has NOTHING to do with learning. THEY DONT CARE. Its not them.....SOCIALISM IS A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!
How weird.. I couldn't sleep last night and this horrific tragedy randomly crossed my mind. I started watching videos about it and couldn't stop crying all over again. I will never forget watching it live and feeling so hopeless for so many innocent people and those drying who were trying to make a better life for themselves. Thank you for making this documentary, Grenfell needs to never be forgotten.
@arm: I’m in Canada but was born in England. I may be thousands of miles away but my heart is always with my homeland. I guarantee you I will never forget it; my thoughts are always with those poor, terrified people! It was just sickening to see silhouettes of the residents at the windows … trapped between fire right outside their window frames and fire coming through their apartment doors! An unreal nightmare!
Cheap is fastest but it's the most costly.However, London is also made up of very old buildings that need serious upgrades and safety measures.
There’s this excellent quote in German that’s concise and to the point: wer billig kauft, kauft teuer. Translated: You buy buy cheap crap, you’re actually buying at a steep price. And it’s true. All the cheap crap comes at an extremely high cost down the line. We’ll always pay for the cheap underpaid stuff. Always.
What about WTC7???????
What a horrible tragedy and still to this day not enough has been done for the victims and those who survived. They set these ppl up for their deaths and didn’t care and in many ways they still don’t. I’m so disappointed by this nonsense, these were vulnerable ppl with families. We have more than enough resources to make sure these things don’t happen, we know how to build fire safe buildings! Why do these things keep happening in an advanced society. I just shake my head. We’ve lost the plot when we put money above human lives. It’s so sick.
That clip of the firefighters on their way where the guy says "How are we supposed to deal with that?!", tho... :/
Excellent documentary.
Well documented.
I feel sorry for my pple In Britain
Sad, really sad 😢 RIP all victims.
In a fire in a high-rise, move down if you can. If smoke's the only problem, try to wet a t-shirt and hold it over your mouth and feel your way down the stairs as quickly as you can while keeping one hand on a railing or wall, because you might trip on someone and fall or get lost if you don't. If you don't collapse you'll eventually make it below the smoke, assuming the fire isn't on the first floor. If it is, get to the lowest floor you can reach and try to get down from a window. Jump, climb, see if people can catch you or at least put down a mattress, whatever. And yeah, smoke is also lethal, most people who die in fires suffocate in their sleep and died before the fire even reached them. But if the building becomes fully engulfed, or just your area is, you'll die either way so you may as well try to get out before either one can kill you.
How crazy saying to stay inside while the building is burning thats a insane idea
Maximize the profit, covered skyscraper use plastic, the cost is human souls. 😢
The worst building fire ever! I cannot believe how people were still unaware that their building was on fire! What happened to the fire alarm system dude?? This was unbelievably horrifying on so many levels! It's traumatizing just watching this preventable tragedy in the 21st century. Whoever approved and doing the regular fire safety inspection of this building were so questionable I guess. Any latest updates on this case?
So the same stuff that caused 100 deaths at the Station Night Club caused this.
Will people never learn? Rest in Peace.
Is it me or does this feel like dejavu? Because this feels eerily similar to the gas explosion of Ronan Point in 1968.
That tower fire was as a result of a tenants refrigerator fire.
“Nothing they had ever seen…” (fire brigade)…well I should hope not.
It is about class not racism.
It should be mandatory that all tenants of a high rise buildings should be provided smoke hoods by the landlord.
So sad😥
A lot of buildings in my area have been getting these insulation covers in the recent years, including the one i live in. I hope they did it correctly and not try to save money by doing it cheap
May those who passed find peace and i hope this doesn't repeat
the stay inside rule is Pathetic, if you are ever in this situation Do not listen to anyone, get out as safely as you can, having a rule and telling people to stay put is Pathetic and stupendous.
The worst thing is, Still UK got the powerful approving authority of many Fire System Products around the world. People trust that they are the most advanced technology to test the products with marks like UL/FM certifications and many more. From now, as Fire systems Specialist think twice about their integrity.
So sad, it's reminds me of a old song.... London is burning bring water....
A terrible tragedy that could have been avoided if people’s safety had taken precedent over money.
There are building’s around the world built with the most Toxic materials known to man yet upon completion the local inspector’s sign off the occupancy permit….
People should have gone to jail…
poor quality is also poor protection against fire and similar disasters
that 999 call is very suspicious you don't hear any panic or sense of urgency in his voice, also how does a faulty fridge start a fire ???
😢This is the first time I have watched any docu or report about this awful tragedy. Whoever constructed this block of residences, the architect responsible, the Council who owned or ran it and were responsible for the day to day tickover and whoever was the penny-pinching, miser who ordered and saw used 'cheap unsuitable materials' which were NOT Fire Resistant surely MUST face Criminal Charges of 68 (or however many perished) counts of Manslaughter, AND Civil Charges and Named Publicly! Seeing all those poor people waving and screaming for help took me straight back to 9/11.
Wow!
No penalties for Celotex using non combustible boards for their combustible insulation RS5000 to pass fire safety tests or Kingspan for using fire safety tests based on a discontinued product with a different spec to the product marketed, or for Celotex and Kingspan representing their products as safe for tall buildings or for Arconic for selling cladding of Aluminium with a polyethylene core , 38:48 the equivalent of wrapping the building in petrol per the enquiry, to Grenfelll even though they knew it was a high rise. Arconic wrote that UK regulations were less restrictive "even if we know that PE material in cassette has a bad behaviour exposed to fire, we can still work with national regulations who are not as restrictive." No penalties for the company applying the cladding with gaps that acted like chimneys for the spread of the fire. 72 dead that we know of.
Why is it a monument? Why isnt the government allowing engineers to examine the structure. A similar situation in NY when we had a buildings girders were moved by trucks to another location without access to the structure. Seems similar
Good comparison. Also, it's interesting that the building didn't fall straight down into it's own footprint 😐
they have been examined on site. And I'm sure debris was taken away and inspected. It didn't fall down because it's made of concrete and not steel, plus there wasn't plane fuel or other accelerants that burn at the temperatures required to take the building down.
Sounds Like CORPORATE GREED 🤬🇨🇦🤬
The fire department couldn't set up air bags around the building ? It would have giviin people a chance
I know. They aren't really to blame though. The whole thing was bound to lead to disaster. Like 911, why didn't a helicopter pick people off the roof? Makes you wonder if they've figured out this problem at all yet. My neighbour (a doctor) refused to stay above the 3 or 4th floor in hotels (I can't remember which floor), essentially not higher than the fireman's ladders reach.
With all the debris falling…..burning liquid plastics, etc……airbag would have been punctured, wasting the resources to set it up, rather then going internal and making rescues
@@Lili-xq9sn Smart of him. I hate the thought of being on high floors in buildings too. The only advantage they have is that in a pancaking event if you're on the top floor you might survive, but in all other disasters you'll just be more vulnerable. Okay, maybe not floods- you may want to be above the ground floor in case of a severe flood. But almost every other disaster.
So scary and sad
41:24- tell the world you don't know the difference between racism and classism without saying it outright. It's sad to see this kind of nonsense pushed, further dividing the majority of us for political points. Was there only one race of people living there? No, it was a class of good and honest everyday people like the rest of us working everyday jobs to provide for their families. But hey, whatever. Everything and everyone is racist in this day and age I guess.
Well the two do often go together. But in today's world classism is the greater problem. Most people aren't racist, but will happily keep supporting a political system that keeps funneling money to the rich at their expense. It's kind of baffling how easily people can can be convinced to vote against their own best interests. Of course when every option is against their interests to some degree that becomes inevitable.
Even in the Uk
Is there any government in the world that cares about the most vulnerable? If there is somebody please let me know. I'm not kidding I really want to know.
Government at work
What was 9 / /
Sounds like some very rich people was doing some ethnic cleansing.
All about the wealthy and the Who’s that own Arconic.
Did they found guilty or not yet ? Whoever is responsible for this . Feel sorry to see that .
They haven't made the report, essentially the people to blame aren't held accountable .
@@Lili-xq9sn What an irony! Feel bad to hear that .
Why didn't it collapse like all other buildings that catch on fire?
London should have learned from the experience of America and 9/11.
It is irresponsible to build buildings like that and send firemen to their deaths or put people in housing that they can't get out of in a fire
Wait! You mean the building didn’t collapse onto itself like the twin towers? Hmmm …
The gifts of capitalism. Greed is a symptom, not a cause unto itself. It is the rewards and incentives of capitalism that cause such murderous unaccountable greed.
1:30 WHAT?? wtf lol
Don't be mean. The man is traumatized.
Hai everyone
Heeey
How can there be absolutely NO BONES FOUND IN THE STRUCTURE after the fire? Can a FIRE THIS INTENSE MELT BONES??
I KNOW FIRES and there would be at least one bone. There are videos that show the debre in the rooms and the fire wasnt that intense. Where are the bone fragments??
cashed in all rite. trust ur life to greed.
🙏❤️
I thought that fire weaken the steel structure! 😏
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So, we're just going to step over the fact that an Ethiopian immigrant thought it would be a good idea to cook a meal hibachi-style in a modern western apartment as though he were in a mud hut? The building materials certainly made things worse, but I'd say England has bigger problems with who it lets into their country. Here's to their "vibrant" culture!
You should be able to cook over an open grill or flame and not worry about your entirely building burning down.
@@Hoepotheis Really!? On a grill? On the floor? Inside!? What kind of third-world nonsense are you spouting!?
The fire was started by a faulty refrigerator and exacerbated by a type of cladding that was involved in several fires all over the world.
People died here unnecessarily and you want to bring on the race politics? You have no shame dude.
That's not what caused the fire. It was a faulty refrigerator.
@@Lili-xq9sn That's what you were told.
Not In My Adult Years Of Dating Have I Experienced Or Seen A Connection So Genuine And Reciprocal,Praying For Longevity Between The Two Of You❤️🇧🇸🔐
Londonistan, Englandstan
WTC7 anybody?
Another of the many “stans”.
Started to get too much involved "& propagating" race, culture & political theories... Had to leave.. with no thumbs up or down.. The cladding information etc, was interesting! As they gradually talked more about the other "information" 🙄.. - I don't need this!
All I can say *RIP to the casualties.*
That's all......
I wonder was this building built for immigrant populations? And was it purposefully built cheaply? Forget being PC just tell the truth.
.
I just want to say something when I see this hole building burning from ground up and it does not collapse How the hell did the twin towers collapse then?
In the twin towers case there were extra complications.....damage from the impacts, dislodged spray-on fireproofing and long-span floor trusses that were uniquely vulnerable to fire attack.
911, The airplanes that hit the towers were filled up with airplane fuel, they had just begun their cross-country flight. So they were essentially like a bomb exploding within the towers, the fuel flowed down also....it just was too hot and the steel etc.failed.
They were hit by boeing 757s, for starters.
When the steel at the point of impact failed, there was nothing to hold up the upper floors, then the upper portion of the building just fell straight down.
Looks very similar to the way J. udy W ood describes another NY FIRE AND COLLAPSE
As usual the problem is always about race for the small minded people. 🤦🏾♂️
For racists and bigots, everything is about race, religion, gender or creed.
That is their only narrative in life.