On a fine point, Aegir seems to render the snare drum attack (leading transient dynamics) more accurately. I’ve played drums for a few decades and collect and tune snare drums, so I think I have a decent reference point. Thank you for the sound samples! 💜
Purchased the Aegir 2 about a month ago based on your review and another. Run it with my LTA MZ3 Headphone amp in pre-amp mode…..wow….defined, but rich midrange with good bass control. Was looking for that class A sound and it delivers. They drive my little Dali Minuet SE Speakers just fine. Topping sounds very nice…..As always, I think ancillary gear will play into the equation and both are great buys. Nice review as always. 😊
Amplifiers with a high S/N ratio, such as the Topping B200, require a DAC with a higher S/N ratio to achieve sufficient performance. I recommend Topping E70(for DAC and preamplifier) because it has an extremely low THD that is somewhat equivalent to a high S/N ratio in the 200Hz-2kHz range.
Topping B200 for me ... cleaner, more details and airy . Thank you for your work . At the moment im burning out my new Muzishare x7 which ive decided to buy after watching your review... probability nex one will be X9 . Love there sound. Also im waiting for GUSTARD DAC-A26 also thanks to your review. Did you tey use streaming directly from a26 ?? Any good ?
Both the DAC and amplifier must have a high S/N ratio to express their performance well. Even if only one of the DAC or amplifier has a low S/N ratio, it will be adjusted to that low S/N ratio.
@@eldloppa2 Airy, that's something people say about the fosi V3, it lacks the fundamental depth that makes music sound good. I will try the toppings because I always look for a tweak to my cabin, summer house or even desktop system as the V3 mono just doesn't cut it and I don't want a full size system there
Another great video, Do you prefer the Accuphase 4000 amplifier vs these mono block options? I’m currently considering accuphase 800 or 4000 and the AGD mono blocks. I have Cornwall 4’s and Monitor Audio Gold Towers.
Have you thought of using them in a bi-amping setup!? On paper, the B200's gain in high mode is the same as in the Aegir. Also, the B200 seems to control the bass better while the Aegir's soundstage might be broader and richer. They could compliment very well in a biamping setup... Anyways, it might be an interesting experiment
@@LexusAllTerrain1 Since I have the b20 bt pro2, the first V3 and the mono's i can start by saying it's not because I don't know what I'm talking about... Now let's move on with the history of being an audiophile over somewhat 35+ years with equipment in different price ranges and always looking for value for money. The V3 lacks depth, soundstage, low end and details all over. The mid range is sterile and unnatural. I doubt you want to hear this, but my old Cambridge Audio 640 Azur in my parents house with a decent streamer, Gheshelli J2 akam dac on a good pair of monitors, outperform them in any sound related aspects as well as power, so hard it's not funny. Google the date on that thing. Now vs actually good gear the difference is so big it's not funny. To make the V3 decent you really need better op amps. At this point it's already fighting vs decent low end integrated like Yamaha. Next that Yamaha comes with a okey pre, a dac and it will sound better. Adding all that suddenly the V3 fights vs decent integrated in low mid. At this point you wasted your money and that's how this story goes. Now what it does well is for a small size desktop system. I can say that something like the Tangent power ampster 2 in mono really outperforms it and if you op amp roll that's a better way to go.
@@LexusAllTerrain1 No worries. I just want things to be clear and true to the buyers/users. RUclips hyping goes wrong many times. The old magazines were also a part of that, but less crazy than current days. With that said getting the Fosi V3, wiim ultra, decent monitors and a sub might bring you more audiophile joy then what was around before and I really think it's a great time for audiophiles 😉. Enjoy your music
@@stevenconnectingtogether6703 Trough a recording on RUclips and I'm sorry to say if the so-called airyness is something like the fosi V3 mono it means low and mid end lackluster where the soul of music lies
@@didioentoro7575I may ve wrong , but I'm pretty sure most electrical components are made in China these days in any case...So even stuff that claims to be USA built has a large China content inside.
On a fine point, Aegir seems to render the snare drum attack (leading transient dynamics) more accurately. I’ve played drums for a few decades and collect and tune snare drums, so I think I have a decent reference point. Thank you for the sound samples! 💜
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I agree and the Topping were more thin/bright, like not my taste... :)
Purchased the Aegir 2 about a month ago based on your review and another. Run it with my LTA MZ3 Headphone amp in pre-amp mode…..wow….defined, but rich midrange with good bass control. Was looking for that class A sound and it delivers. They drive my little Dali Minuet SE Speakers just fine. Topping sounds very nice…..As always, I think ancillary gear will play into the equation and both are great buys. Nice review as always. 😊
Mz3 gang represent
I really don't know which one is better but I like Aegir more. Good review, as always!
Thank you for the review Tharbamar- seems like either one will be a smart choice
Amplifiers with a high S/N ratio, such as the Topping B200, require a DAC with a higher S/N ratio to achieve sufficient performance. I recommend Topping E70(for DAC and preamplifier) because it has an extremely low THD that is somewhat equivalent to a high S/N ratio in the 200Hz-2kHz range.
Très bon matériel moderne, pour ma part j'ai opté pour fosi za3 🎉❤
Topping B200 for me ... cleaner, more details and airy . Thank you for your work . At the moment im burning out my new Muzishare x7 which ive decided to buy after watching your review... probability nex one will be X9 . Love there sound. Also im waiting for GUSTARD DAC-A26 also thanks to your review. Did you tey use streaming directly from a26 ?? Any good ?
B200 for me and in China its 20% cheaper while the Schitt is 30% more , so its a no brainer , also its more neutral and micro details n more powerful
Both the DAC and amplifier must have a high S/N ratio to express their performance well. Even if only one of the DAC or amplifier has a low S/N ratio, it will be adjusted to that low S/N ratio.
Thank you so much.❤
Wow surprisingly i find the topping much less bright, much more well behaved than the aegir
Great test. Schiit sounds a little better. More clear, neutral and fresher.
Nice comparison! For me topping it s sounds better, more airy, more detailed😊 Can you tell me please how b200 it s sound comparing to pa7?
PA7 can and will sound a bit brighter.
Thanks
i love how quiet is the b200 compare to the aegir, better emi filter less steep curve the gain its amazing
Redondo Beach!! South Bay!!
I was surprised with how MUCH more airy the Topping sounded.
Yep.
@@eldloppa2 Airy, that's something people say about the fosi V3, it lacks the fundamental depth that makes music sound good. I will try the toppings because I always look for a tweak to my cabin, summer house or even desktop system as the V3 mono just doesn't cut it and I don't want a full size system there
Another great video,
Do you prefer the Accuphase 4000 amplifier vs these mono block options?
I’m currently considering accuphase 800 or 4000 and the AGD mono blocks.
I have Cornwall 4’s and Monitor Audio Gold Towers.
Thanks, E-4000 is my reference amplifier these amps are review samples and just sharing my experience.
Have you thought of using them in a bi-amping setup!?
On paper, the B200's gain in high mode is the same as in the Aegir. Also, the B200 seems to control the bass better while the Aegir's soundstage might be broader and richer. They could compliment very well in a biamping setup... Anyways, it might be an interesting experiment
This is my setting right now. I use two B200s and aegirs combination for my martin logan F200. It is so wonderful.
Why man. I dont want to buy another dac. But you keep tempting me with that x30
I love the way it sounds like five figure DACs 😎
Can you review the new Monitor Audio Gold 100 6G?
Battle? First one into the bin? 😮
How about FONZY V3 vs. Aegier vs. Topping
Should be interesting 🤔
No it's not. Fozi V3 over rating needs to end. It's only good for what it is.. not vs the better stuff
@@wegardfjeld3789 It sounds very CLEAN, with great stage and air! Tell me why you disagree!
@@LexusAllTerrain1 Since I have the b20 bt pro2, the first V3 and the mono's i can start by saying it's not because I don't know what I'm talking about... Now let's move on with the history of being an audiophile over somewhat 35+ years with equipment in different price ranges and always looking for value for money. The V3 lacks depth, soundstage, low end and details all over. The mid range is sterile and unnatural. I doubt you want to hear this, but my old Cambridge Audio 640 Azur in my parents house with a decent streamer, Gheshelli J2 akam dac on a good pair of monitors, outperform them in any sound related aspects as well as power, so hard it's not funny. Google the date on that thing. Now vs actually good gear the difference is so big it's not funny. To make the V3 decent you really need better op amps. At this point it's already fighting vs decent low end integrated like Yamaha. Next that Yamaha comes with a okey pre, a dac and it will sound better. Adding all that suddenly the V3 fights vs decent integrated in low mid. At this point you wasted your money and that's how this story goes. Now what it does well is for a small size desktop system. I can say that something like the Tangent power ampster 2 in mono really outperforms it and if you op amp roll that's a better way to go.
@@wegardfjeld3789 thanks the input!
@@LexusAllTerrain1 No worries. I just want things to be clear and true to the buyers/users. RUclips hyping goes wrong many times. The old magazines were also a part of that, but less crazy than current days. With that said getting the Fosi V3, wiim ultra, decent monitors and a sub might bring you more audiophile joy then what was around before and I really think it's a great time for audiophiles 😉. Enjoy your music
Amazing battle, Topping wins 🎉
Nice review, but with your own experience with classD, why go for A/B?
I prefer to listen to Class AB/A or SET.
@@Tharbamar sure, but for which reasons? In blind tests, I wonder if you can detect any differences.
@@Nickhifi88you can sir
Ah the amp class wars. I bought a class A to answer this for myself, and these answers follow my experience.
@@Nickhifi88 yes absolutely I’ve even won speaker cable double blind tests in past.
In your samples, I noticed that the Aegir delivers a slightly stronger bass note, whereas the B200 offers more transparency and a sense of airiness.
@@stevenconnectingtogether6703 Trough a recording on RUclips and I'm sorry to say if the so-called airyness is something like the fosi V3 mono it means low and mid end lackluster where the soul of music lies
a lot of robots here...managing comments
Power bricks, I don't have the real estate for them, shame but will have to pass on them ..
you're out of your mind to even compare that Schiit with the Topping.
How many Topping amps made Stereophile’s Class A recommended components?
What's wrong if you or anyone compare US made vs China made ? We talk about the sound and not the patriotic feeling....talk about the fact !
He was making a schiit joke. Sigh
Some people live their lives as audio politicians, just because their corrupted leaders feed them with enough lies
@@didioentoro7575I may ve wrong , but I'm pretty sure most electrical components are made in China these days in any case...So even stuff that claims to be USA built has a large China content inside.