Thank you for making this public. This will be helpful for small non profits or churches that have a wheelchair van, but no budget or safety department.
This video is actually helpful because I currently ride a special needs bus as I am a special needs student with autism and I wanna take the aides steps and be a aide myself for allegany county public schools because I care about the kids and your also helping the kids out if they need assistance and interactions with them so I find this video what to expect with the job and knowing what to do for the special needs kids while there riding the bus.
Honestly I think if I had a special needs school bus this would be good for transporting goods and cargo that can’t fir through the normal doors. Great content!
I imagine retired special needs school busses could definitely be used to transport cargo. I wonder if anyone has ever transformed a special needs bus into their home. That would be an interesting conversion.
The lifts and belts are the same as those used on my Cota Mainstream bus.... I wish I could ride a bus like that again.. Too bad you can't come to Columbus Ohio.... I remember the days when the back of the chairs faced the windows.... I know I am old....
@@SchoolBusSass It took me and another driver about 10 minutes to figure out how to attach the 5 point harness when we got thrown on a spare bus together after mine got vandalized overnight. Fortunately I had seen them used once before in a class demo but it was a challenge to work it out, even so. The other special needs driver just drives kids for alternative schools and never ever has wheelchairs.
ruclips.net/video/gi_c1POuDB4/видео.html I thought this might be of some help for you and your aide. CSRS …one type is demonstrated. I realize there are several different types, it perhaps this will help. CSRS starts at around the 15:00 mark.
Hello Therese. This is Cathy and it is nice to meet you. That really hurts the teacher’s feelings when any student tells any teacher that any teacher is in the wheelchair after the teacher especially at the school just got paralyzed.
Our districts fleet consists of Thomas's and International special needs busses. On those particular busses, only the Thomas has the lift switch. Thanks for letting me know about the Blue Bird special needs bus also having that feature.
Thank you so much for all these useful information. Very helpful vedio ànd the explanation is perfect. I love using the ramp for my bus, and form this vedio I learned Extra things. Very nice vedio. I would love to hear about the pri-trip specialy from the same Trainer because he is speak clearly so everyone can understand him. Please if you have any link for this Trainer send it to me Thanks again
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Thank you for sharing this very important and informative video. They should make it a requirement for everyone who drives a wheelchair accessible bus.
There are many variables. If you are at a student’s stop with the lift out and in the down position, ready to board a student in a chair, I would call base and ask for another special needs bus. If the lift stops after the child has been boarded, but before the life has folded to its upright storing position, I would use the manual lever as demonstrated in the video, to complete the proper positioning of the lift, then have the mechanics address the problem when the vehicle is back to base. Do not try to manually raise the lift with a student on the lift. This would be difficult and ill advised.
There is a manual override. Right next to the circuit breaker there is a rod/arm. You can remove it and use the arm to pump to raise or lower the wheelchair lift.
Do your drivers ride up the lift with the wheelchair if they have no aide? If not, how do they not leave the chair momentarily unsupervised on the lift while they walk inside to wheel the chair into the bus from the lift?
Our district provides aides for all of our special needs routes. I will have to do some checking to see what the best practice is for drivers navigating special needs routes, w/o an aide. Great question, thanks for asking. I don't believe drivers ride the lift up with the student, particularly when you have an electric chair. The chairs are typically quite heavy on their own. If the child is older/larger, the weight limit might exceed capacity.
Electric chairs range from around 40 lbs to 300. The lifts themselves must have the capacity to lift 3,600 lbs. which is why you never want to try to use the hydraulic manual emergency function with a large load. Particularly if the lift needs to go up to load the student, making it difficult for the driver or aide to manage if the lift gets stuck in a lowered position and can only be put back in place manually . At that point I would have the garage bring a different bus with a functioning lift. Otherwise all bus lifts can accommodate the chair and student.
Electric wheelchairs are a nightmare. I'm off work at the moment. The district arranged a doctor and a specialist. I managed to injure my back pulling an electric wheelchair off the lift. By the time the approx 400lb weight of wheelchair and student are up at the top on the lfit, the bus is leaning so that 400lbs is 400lbs being pulled uphill. My district insists electric chairs be hauled in manually because some student in another district drove their wheelchair off the lift.
Wow, I’m sorry you were injured! Hoping for a full and speedy recovery. The electric chairs are incredibly heavy even without the individual . Hopefully there will be an alternative to manually putting the chair on board.
@@SchoolBusSass I have suggested we need some kind of winch. The whole wheelchair concept was designed around manual wheelchairs. Even the wheelchair bays are not designed for electric. I'm supposed to be able to carry two wheelchairs on the bus I usually drive. I'll defy anybody to fit more than just the one electric chair. The batteries are 60lb each for the lead-acid driven chairs and they take two. What we probably need for cheapness and ease would be a block and tackle attached to the far wall or perhaps to the floor and a rope that splits into two with hooks to fit the wheelchair securement points. Then haul the rope through the pulley thus halving the amount of musclepower needed.
On the majority, if not all new chairs, D rings are standard. On the old style chair, like the one we used in the demonstration, the D rings were not present, which is why the frame is the next best option.
Why not redesign school buses so they have low floors without any steps from the door to the seating area. In the UK for at least 15 to 20 years, pretty much all buses have low floors and suspension that lowers the front so it’s only a few inches above the ground. In the floor by the door there’s a folding ramp to make it step free from the footpath into the bus.
Great video, but I will still and always disagree with running the shoulder/lab orders in between the seat and the armrest around the student-the reason being is if youare in a crash, internal organs can be damaged by this restraint. If you put the restraint around the outside of the armrest, you’re still ensuring that the student will not slide out of the chair, but the chair will take the hit, not the kids!
Hi Chris Thank you so much for the comment and feedback! I love to hear from our special needs drivers! I myself have not driven special needs in many years, but try to keep up with, best practice, methods for keeping our kids safe...I think we all do. I do, however, think you have a very valid point and will sharing your thoughts on this topic with him. I’d like to understand why the current, best practice method, is set as such. I’ll get back to you when I learn the answer. Thanks again for your feedback! Have an awesome summer 😎
I’m having some health issues with my joints, but we had a family trip planned for New York City. This ruclips.net/user/postUgkxuxJwamLFanm476LC5WPeTouyyU1GXomC was perfect! It’s lightweight enough that my friend could carry it up or down stairs when we needed to. (I can walk very short distances) It was comfortable for me to sit in, I would say if you’re super tall it might be a little cramped. I’m 5’1” and the foot rests were the perfect height. This may not be the best one for long term use, you get what you pay for, but for something that fits our budget that gives me accessibility while we deal with my health this was amazing.
The seatbelt on the majority of chairs, are for posture and provide no safety or impact protection for the student. Best practice is to always use the lap and shoulder belt.
Hi Tony… Each state can mandate if aides are a requirement or not. The state of Ohio has let that determination rest on each school district to decide. I’m sorry your district does not see neither the importance nor value of having an aide on board all special needs routes. You can always check with your district’s intervention specialist… If an aide is part of an individuals IEP, that can require the district to provide one. You as a driver have the right to view any pupil you transport with an IEP, access to the transportation portion of that child’s IEP.
Thank you for making this public. This will be helpful for small non profits or churches that have a wheelchair van, but no budget or safety department.
So glad to learn the video has been helpful for you. Thank you for your com comment and kind feedback.
Hey, you’re gonna do a good job on the wheelchair lift I promise you’re gonna do good. Good luck on the lift.
Finally, I found a video on orth buses. It very rare to find these types of videos
This video is actually helpful because I currently ride a special needs bus as I am a special needs student with autism and I wanna take the aides steps and be a aide myself for allegany county public schools because I care about the kids and your also helping the kids out if they need assistance and interactions with them so I find this video what to expect with the job and knowing what to do for the special needs kids while there riding the bus.
Hello, Bronson
I’m thrilled to learn this video has been helpful for you and wish you all the best in your journey becoming an aide.
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Helpful to me as well i can relate to you cuz I ride the special needs bus with autism
Honestly I think if I had a special needs school bus this would be good for transporting goods and cargo that can’t fir through the normal doors. Great content!
I imagine retired special needs school busses could definitely be used to transport cargo. I wonder if anyone has ever transformed a special needs bus into their home. That would be an interesting conversion.
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Excellent training, David
Thanks for the positive feedback, Patricia. I will pass along the praise, to David.
Great video! Learned a lot!
Wonderfully done. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much for your comment and feedback!
The lifts and belts are the same as those used on my Cota Mainstream bus.... I wish I could ride a bus like that again.. Too bad you can't come to Columbus Ohio.... I remember the days when the back of the chairs faced the windows.... I know I am old....
Thank you for this helpful information.
You’re welcome 😁
good info, i am gonna train to drive a wheel chair accesible school bus tomorrow..
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Yup. Just like the lifts I use. I do get the 5 point harnesses though on some busses. Perhaps those can be covered at some point?
Absolutely, we can get a variety of harnesses and review them. Thank you for the suggestion!
@@SchoolBusSass It took me and another driver about 10 minutes to figure out how to attach the 5 point harness when we got thrown on a spare bus together after mine got vandalized overnight. Fortunately I had seen them used once before in a class demo but it was a challenge to work it out, even so. The other special needs driver just drives kids for alternative schools and never ever has wheelchairs.
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I thought this might be of some help for you and your aide. CSRS …one type is demonstrated. I realize there are several different types, it perhaps this will help.
CSRS starts at around the 15:00 mark.
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Hello Therese. This is Cathy and it is nice to meet you. That really hurts the teacher’s feelings when any student tells any teacher that any teacher is in the wheelchair after the teacher especially at the school just got paralyzed.
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There's enough room for three wheelchairs on that bus.
Thank you for doing this video.
You’re welcome 😉
Blue birds have lift switches too
Our districts fleet consists of Thomas's and International special needs busses. On those particular busses, only the Thomas has the lift switch. Thanks for letting me know about the Blue Bird special needs bus also having that feature.
Older buses don't have lift switches
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Thank you so much for all these useful information. Very helpful vedio ànd the explanation is perfect. I love using the ramp for my bus, and form this vedio I learned Extra things. Very nice vedio.
I would love to hear about the pri-trip specialy from the same Trainer because he is speak clearly so everyone can understand him. Please if you have any link for this Trainer send it to me
Thanks again
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Good morning, Aida Amer Thank you for your comment and kind feedback. I will pass along the praise to Dave. We are both trainers for the same district. I have attached a link to my pre-trip training video. Dave currently does not have a pre-trip video. Also, if you are interested, we just released a special needs school bus emergency evacuation video, which I will also post a link to. I hope mine will suffice until we can get Dave to put out a pre-trip video demonstration. Thanks again. Therese
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Thank you for sharing this very important and informative video. They should make it a requirement for everyone who drives a wheelchair accessible bus.
Thank you for your kind comment and feedback…both are greatly appreciated.
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Question? At any time if the vehicle is driving and the Lyft breaks down what will the driver/aid do about it. If it breaks down?
There are many variables. If you are at a student’s stop with the lift out and in the down position, ready to board a student in a chair, I would call base and ask for another special needs bus. If the lift stops after the child has been boarded, but before the life has folded to its upright storing position, I would use the manual lever as demonstrated in the video, to complete the proper positioning of the lift, then have the mechanics address the problem when the vehicle is back to base. Do not try to manually raise the lift with a student on the lift. This would be difficult and ill advised.
There is a manual override. Right next to the circuit breaker there is a rod/arm. You can remove it and use the arm to pump to raise or lower the wheelchair lift.
thank you
You’re welcome
Great Video!!!!!!
Thank you for your comment and feedback!
Do your drivers ride up the lift with the wheelchair if they have no aide? If not, how do they not leave the chair momentarily unsupervised on the lift while they walk inside to wheel the chair into the bus from the lift?
Our district provides aides for all of our special needs routes. I will have to do some checking to see what the best practice is for drivers navigating special needs routes, w/o an aide. Great question, thanks for asking. I don't believe drivers ride the lift up with the student, particularly when you have an electric chair. The chairs are typically quite heavy on their own. If the child is older/larger, the weight limit might exceed capacity.
All special Ed bus drivers should have aides
no disrespect, but if those lifts struggle with a heavier load, are there other lifts of the same type to take on a high load?
Electric chairs range from around 40 lbs to 300. The lifts themselves must have the capacity to lift 3,600 lbs. which is why you never want to try to use the hydraulic manual emergency function with a large load. Particularly if the lift needs to go up to load the student, making it difficult for the driver or aide to manage if the lift gets stuck in a lowered position and can only be put back in place manually . At that point I would have the garage bring a different bus with a functioning lift. Otherwise all bus lifts can accommodate the chair and student.
My School District uses this to train it's bus drivers. Way to go!
May I ask which school district?
Thank you!! 😊
This was a very informative video.
Thank you, I’m glad the video was helpful for you!
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May I ask what kind of lift this is, what it's called... been trying to find a safe lift for my bus/skoolie? Thanks in advance.
I will find out and get back to you.
It looks like a Braun lift. They are based out of Winnimac Indiana.
Oh those are special buses for special kids
Electric wheelchairs are a nightmare. I'm off work at the moment. The district arranged a doctor and a specialist. I managed to injure my back pulling an electric wheelchair off the lift. By the time the approx 400lb weight of wheelchair and student are up at the top on the lfit, the bus is leaning so that 400lbs is 400lbs being pulled uphill. My district insists electric chairs be hauled in manually because some student in another district drove their wheelchair off the lift.
Wow, I’m sorry you were injured! Hoping for a full and speedy recovery. The electric chairs are incredibly heavy even without the individual .
Hopefully there will be an alternative to manually putting the chair on board.
@@SchoolBusSass I have suggested we need some kind of winch. The whole wheelchair concept was designed around manual wheelchairs. Even the wheelchair bays are not designed for electric. I'm supposed to be able to carry two wheelchairs on the bus I usually drive. I'll defy anybody to fit more than just the one electric chair. The batteries are 60lb each for the lead-acid driven chairs and they take two.
What we probably need for cheapness and ease would be a block and tackle attached to the far wall or perhaps to the floor and a rope that splits into two with hooks to fit the wheelchair securement points. Then haul the rope through the pulley thus halving the amount of musclepower needed.
My bus has the lift at the front of the bus. Bus 5 is the bus i ride
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I rode a bus 5 in kindergarten, but it had no wheelchair ramp.
My bus also had park position on the transmission as well.
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Bus 2 is the bus i ride to school
I've ridden a lot of special needs school buses and always wondered why they always backed up the wheelchairs
And now you know. 😊
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On ricon lifts you have to have the seat belt on. The lift for it to operate
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My daughter has cerebral palsy and she has a wheelchair and a walker
Are you in the Centerville district? Our special needs drivers are wonderful.
@@SchoolBusSass yes
Thank you for your comment, harperanderson! I hope your daughter is having a great school year! A very happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Most drivers and aides just use the hooks
On the majority, if not all new chairs, D rings are standard. On the old style chair, like the one we used in the demonstration, the D rings were not present, which is why the frame is the next best option.
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Don’t use the bottle jack unless it is an emergency.
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Ms. Judy opens the wheelchair lift door at AG Baillie Memorial School on Mondays, Wednesdays, & Fridays.
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That tire needs some air.
What if the driver has no aid?
The driver would be responsible for loading and securing the chair .
Whoever from the school brings the student out what assists the bus driver
Why not redesign school buses so they have low floors without any steps from the door to the seating area. In the UK for at least 15 to 20 years, pretty much all buses have low floors and suspension that lowers the front so it’s only a few inches above the ground. In the floor by the door there’s a folding ramp to make it step free from the footpath into the bus.
Let’s get real: You searched for this.
Searched for what?
It came up in recommendations. Checkmate 😂
That is a wheelchair bus. It is supposed to have air-conditioning.
Each district orders busses based on their districts needs and finances. Ohio has no state mandates requiring a/c on special needs busses.
Great video, but I will still and always disagree with running the shoulder/lab orders in between the seat and the armrest around the student-the reason being is if youare in a crash, internal organs can be damaged by this restraint. If you put the restraint around the outside of the armrest, you’re still ensuring that the student will not slide out of the chair, but the chair will take the hit, not the kids!
Hi Chris
Thank you so much for the comment and feedback! I love to hear from our special needs drivers! I myself have not driven special needs in many years, but try to keep up with, best practice, methods for keeping our kids safe...I think we all do. I do, however, think you have a very valid point and will sharing your thoughts on this topic with him. I’d like to understand why the current, best practice method, is set as such. I’ll get back to you when I learn the answer.
Thanks again for your feedback!
Have an awesome summer 😎
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I’m having some health issues with my joints, but we had a family trip planned for New York City. This ruclips.net/user/postUgkxuxJwamLFanm476LC5WPeTouyyU1GXomC was perfect! It’s lightweight enough that my friend could carry it up or down stairs when we needed to. (I can walk very short distances) It was comfortable for me to sit in, I would say if you’re super tall it might be a little cramped. I’m 5’1” and the foot rests were the perfect height. This may not be the best one for long term use, you get what you pay for, but for something that fits our budget that gives me accessibility while we deal with my health this was amazing.
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The seatbelt and shoulder harnesses are mainly used for wheelchairs without a seatbelt or kids keep getting out of the chair
The seatbelt on the majority of chairs, are for posture and provide no safety or impact protection for the student. Best practice is to always use the lap and shoulder belt.
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Ahhh, the luxury of having an aide. I've requested one but the district says they don't have one and that I'm on my own.
Hi Tony…
Each state can mandate if aides are a requirement or not. The state of Ohio has let that determination rest on each school district to decide. I’m sorry your district does not see neither the importance nor value of having an aide on board all special needs routes. You can always check with your district’s intervention specialist…
If an aide is part of an individuals IEP, that can require the district to provide one. You as a driver have the right to view any pupil you transport with an IEP, access to the transportation portion of that child’s IEP.
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Terrific, Shawn! Do you know what type of bus you’ll be driving?
Electric chair lol
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i personaly cross the back anchor point , seems to me it will prevent the chair from flipping
Trip hazard...securements left in the floor, WIndow securements then aisle.
Agreed, they definitely can be a tripping hazard. Then again, they are a tripping hazard while in use, as well.
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