Shooting the FG42: The Hype is Real
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The hype? Yeah, it's real. The FG42 is the nicest full-auto full-power rifle I have yet fired. This is a recut of a previous video that RUclips decided to squash.
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Find someone who looks at you like Ian looks at an FG42
Looked like true love to me
no one will come close to how much ian loved holding that fg42
Mission impossible: the Ian 42
I found some people who look at me like Ian looks at the Zip .22, does that count?
@@thewaraboo2824 😂😂😂
When a military puts in an impossible order with loads of requirements, only for the company to actually succeed...
it was a german company after all :D
@@dabootv well said, mate.
@@dabootv and better yet, the wehrmacht did put their money where they mouth were, those FG42 clearly won't came cheap, yet the wehrmacht still put significant numbers to bought.. Or simply because that weren't any other candidates..
Yes, wehrmacht could easily threw everything out, and issued modified mg42 with 50 rounds mag ala rpd 'drum mag' instead..
But obviously Frontline troops would not allowed that..
@@dureteheiral1793
Cut down mg42s would be too heavy and not have nearly the accuracy of the fg42 in closed bolt mode. The weapons were unloaded for jump as well and the time to ready a belt in box 50rounder compared to slamming home a 20 box is pretty huge. Total felt recoil is lower on this with a more feasible ammo burn rate given paras too. All in all fg42 is remarkably fit for purpose given how ridiculous the requested purpose was. Also, procurement was 100% Luftwaffe, no wehrmacht involvement.
@@CtrlAltRetreat the Luftwaffe was part of the Wehrmacht. The Luftwaffe (airforce) Heer (army) and Kreigsmarine (navy) formed the Wehrmacht (Nazi controlled German armed forces) :)
Between this and the MG42 the Germans definitely won the “ scariest sounding guns” award.
20mm vulcan cannon would like a word
@@toaster9922 Vulcan is post war though. Nothing comes close to a proper MK anyway.^^
I don't doubt those famous 88s made a hell of a racket as well...
@@toaster9922 If Post war what about the a-10 brrrt
Sean Gannon between this and the mg42, we got the m60.
"I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did. Which... you didn't."
Truer words were never spoken.
Lets face it, anyone who wouldnt go "hehehehe" after firing this thing is not normal.
Rare to see Ian so emotional 😄
Yeah, Ian's laugh at the end is great.
Seems normal to me.
LOL!!!
Sorry i most definetly would'nt go "hehehehe"....
I am not that controlled... i would legit loose my shit hollering like a madman and getting a second magazine...
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Fallshirmjägergewehr 42
Nah that would be zweiundvierzig
lol nice
*Fallschirmjägergewehr Zweiundvierzig :) Iam Austrian
sir schamilott xx Austrian German word?!
@Commander LoLMaN Na Serwas do hom ma jo an Deitschn ;) This is our dialect
It really boggles my mind that the Germans were able to make a fully automatic full power cartridge battle rifle that’s more controllable than the vast majority of stuff being made today.
its part of the reason it resembles a bullpup as ian said the the whole action recipricates back into the stock using its inertia to help fight the kick of the gun for you its not really kraut space magik if you understand physics and how firearms work and as for alot of modern firearms its more of a combination of 2 things that keep this sort of thing from the majority of designs today 1 the stigma alot of people (not all mind you) have of "over engineered german weapons were bad" and 2 if that gun had any serious mechanical foul ups (which can happen with any gun even the "venerable" ak platform) i cant say idd want to have to field strip it to clear the block under fire with possible foul ups in any area with major moving parts such as the for mentioned stock area
Look at the AK rifles when you shoot you see the barrel bend that is why they lack accuracy this thing has no bend to the barrel and firing a much more powerful round.
@@steveg1667 FYI, the muzzle velocity of FG-42 is only about 730 m/s, which is comparable to that of AK's, despite using a more powerful full-size rifle cartridge. So, the firing range on it was actually about the same as with AK (700-800 m). But with AK's 7,62x39 intermediate cartridge weighing less, you could carry more ammo with you.
And FG was much more expensive to manufacture than AK (that's why only about 10 000 of them were produced) and somewhat less reliable too.
@@antona.4572 Caliber and muzzle velocity are just 2 factors. 7,62x39 carries about 2000J and the 7,92x57 carries 3500-4000J. Therefore it had more power and range.
And who the hell is firing AK (or any assault rifles) up to 800 meters ?
@@riesenfliegefly7139 3500-4000 J for 7.92x57 mm - is it specifically when it is being fired from FG-42, or from a regular Mauser K98 rifle, or MG-34/MG-42 machine gun?
My understanding is kinetic energy of a round also depends on it's initial velocity, not just a weight and caliber? Or am I wrong?
And yeah, most people wouldn't be able to hit a target from 800 m distance, especially when firing an assault rifle.
Ian after firing the M14 in full auto: "whoa!" "jeez!" "oof!"
Ian after firing the FG42 in full auto: "this thin is REALLY slick!"
ow oof my shoulders
Who does want semi auto?
And then compare 7.62 NATO to 8mm Mauser. Hint: 8mm Mauser is a very serious rifle cartridge.
@@chipsterb4946 3400J vs 4100J 😬 and the 8mm is 10% slower, so the difference is only because of the weight, which means the 8mm Mauser has way more momentum and therefore way more recoil. And yet the Germans still made it controlable.
@@pierrevilley6675because the m14 was basically a m1 garand with an adjusted gas system. Where as the fg was designed from the ground up without any unnecessary hold overs and restrictions. (One of the selling points to the DoD on the m14 was old garlands could be built into m14s - which didn’t happen)
“This thing is REALLY slick”
Highest possible compliment from gun Jesus.
Nah, that borderline psychotic laugh at the closing was the stamp of love.
@@jimmiller5600 perfect ending for a badass video
That consistent case ejection...
@@scratchy996 Germanic perfection
gun jesus :D
M60: D...Dad ?
FG42: Ja mein Sohn
G E T S O M E
@@jonathanwells223 Ahoy referent?
Wir haben Möglichkeiten, Waffen zum Reden zu bringen!
@Zarathustra M60 is based on the MG42 design, they took all the good features and dumped them by the wayside, and kept all the bad features. M60 was never a good LMG/MMG. In the acceptance test it was put up against among others FN MAG, and political reasons led to the M60 being adopted. Guess what it was replaced with when they finally ditched the M60? It was replaced with the updated version of FN MAG, the one that was not deemed "worthy" in the initial trials, and was adopted as the M240.
@@PrinsPrygel My friend from Vietnam wanted to get a M60 DCM. Instead, I convinced him to get a Barrett 50. He seemed happy with that choice.
"I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did...which, you didn't..." It's funny because it's true.
It's sad because it's true.
Love Ian's honesty.
That's the most aggressive firearm sound I ever heard I think
agreed! Somehow I feel like most German weaponry from that time sound very very aggressive.
@@unwnme Germans at that time also sound very agressive.
Yeah, it does sound so great 😂 comparing to modern military pipsqueak cartidges this still sounds like a GUN.
@@macobuzi As they should be. Sunshine and rainbow don't win wars.
I wouldnt be surprised to learn one of the requirements from the german military would be "gun must sound scary" "gun must incite fear". Consider they put whistles on bombs so they were aware of sound induced psychological tactics
M4 - Do you really believe your own hype that much
FG42 - I AM THE HYPE
*laugh in Stoner 63A
Team 4star reference
That's a fantastic reference, right there.
M1941 Johnson *Kicks Dirt on the ground (Do you think they like me?)
_"Not yet"_
*It's treason then*
It's sounds like it's shooting thunder and it's beautiful
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Thunder Stick"
Storm gewehr
Nein nein nein nein
@@psychoaiko666 Schleich dich, Commie.
Reminds me of the shootout scenes in Heat.
Only 7000 original fg 42's were made, there was more frickin panzer IV's than there were fg 42's
The Panzer IV did have a head start of quite a few years though.
Not a lot of German paratroopers after Crete ?
About 10 000 FGs were built, to be exact. Still, not a lot
@@leefithian3704 they had to go for a defensive kind of war after crete i guess?
I have read a few FG42s showed up in the 1990s in Bosnia. The Yugoslavs also had StG44s in reserve for many decades. Prvi Partizan of Serbia still makes 7.92x33mm kurz Sturmgewehr ammo.
“There is a semi auto setting... we don’t care about the semi auto setting” he knows us so well XD
But part of the uniqueness of the FG42 is that it fires from an open bolt on full auto and from a closed bolt on semi auto...
Not much point showing uo to shoot a rare sub 10k fg42 with full auto and not doing so
MG42: Hitler's Buzz saw
FG42: Hitler's Jackhammer
FP42: Hitler's Car?
*FührerPanzerfahrzeug
Walther PPK: Hitler’s light switch?
STG44 : hitler's power drill
Tiger 2: Hitler's Pussycat
@@Coachteacherdadhusbandguy I wish he used that switch in '39
Unbelievable that this weapon is nearly 80 years old.
It still looks like it could have been invented in our time.
Such a modern look.
Except the side magazine.
The side magazine surely helps with prone shooting.
@@HappyBeezerStudios IDK man, I think with the return of the battle rifle support weapon concept, side fed may make a comeback.
30 round mags on M27s fit fine prone, 60 round drums less so. Now you need longer more unwieldy bipods that increase barrel travel on firing.
Or just rotate 416 receiver and feed to the left, now you can snap in your 30 round mags, a 60 round drum, or a modified belt stripper.
With France moving to the 416 from the famas, making the m27 (a heavy 416) the next gen NATO battle rifle platform would standardize a lot of parts. With Germany using the G36 with a similar action, this is even more practical as a generational overhaul.
@@Azumazini that has a lot of interesting potential and solves lost issues. I just worry about maintenance and reliability issues with such a design. Drums have their own issues with a coiled continuous spring, this thing from what I can read is going to have potentially 3 springs jamming into each other if something goes wrong.
@@sethsherlock9694 I got out of the Marine Corps back in 2005, but from what I hear out at Pendleton from a few buddies still in is that the reliability issues seem to be very low and that the design is pretty sound. Quad stack magazines have been in use civilian side for sometime with little problems. I should have also mentioned the one they are testing is the Surefire 60 round quad stack which is a STANAG and aluminum like the original 30 round STANAG's. This makes it familiar with units already using those magazines.
This makes the BAR looks like a prehistoric club
The BAR was invented some 25 years earlier...
you wouldn't have to lug around so much more ammo with a BAR and it only takes one to kill
And BAR still had better ballistics and firing range.
@@antona.4572 30.06 round better than Mauser 8mm explains most of that - BAR was a good piece - but MG42 would be a better suppression weapon assuming you have the ammo to keep feeding it.
@@jimbosc I thought BAR's higher effectiveness was mainly due to it's longer barrel (FG-42's was kind of short). I didn't know 30.06 was overall a better round than 7,92x57 mm Mauser.
And yeah, with MG-42 machine gun, you would need lots of ammo.
IMHO, with it's rate of fire of 1200-1500 rounds/minute, it would make a great aircraft or flak weapon. Not sure why would you need such a high rate of fire for slow moving ground targets.
1:17-1:30 Notice how the bolt is almost completely decelerated, before it hits the back of the reciever (almost like the constant recoil system on the Ultimax 100 and the AA-12).
This explains the controllability on full auto vs something like the M14, where the bolt smacks into the back of the reciever.
I noticed that as well. It looks like the bolt isn't going back far enough to pickup the next round, but it is. I assume that buffer spring built into the shoulder stock aids significantly in reducing felt recoil.
So you just need a slightly spongier spring 😂
M60: my sound alone can make the enemies run in fear
FG42: thats cute
wwii soldier who isn't afraid of gunshots from rifles: *dies
MG42: Gentlemen, cool off.
"The Pig" was an embarrasement to the US technology, you ever used one?
MG42: „brrrrrrtt brrrrrrrt brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt“
M60: *left the chat*
@@Yosemite-George-61 how so I recall training with you guys on it and everyone was pleased with it Yank and Brit alike
2:40 Jesus chases the merchants out of the temple, circa 23 AD.
Except He didn't do it with lethal weapons, eh.
Fetts4ck no they didn’t. BC is before christ, AD is anno domini
How antisemetic of you
@@synthsol5522 shut up snowflake
And then he laughs
Those Germans are great engineers. One time when I was in the army in Germany they sent a couple of us over to the German firing range. I fired a machine gun that looked like an MG 42. I was surprised how many rounds went down range when I pulled the trigger, but it didn't vibrate or jump around. It was an exquisite piece of machinery.
@@badgermcbadger1968 not complete
@@badgermcbadger1968 Nah, we had it mounted in our tanks here in Greece
Were, anyway. They just stopped doing anything meaningful since 1945.
@@Hiarren ...yeah, and you better be happy about that...^^
@@Hiarren That is not true. Their military tech is still top-notch actually.
Imagine if a German arms manufacturer made a modern day version of this
I know smith machine group does or at least used to, but idk if they are German, And I'm too stoned and lazy to google it right now.
@@LisaAnn777 that's semi auto only
I would be happy to own one!!! 🤠👍
Königgrätz March starts playing
Germany isn't what it used to be. The potential wasted doesn't know an end.
"eheheheh" -Ian McCollum 2018
Same laugh as Christopher Lambert's. Identical.
@@guntherhermann2317 have you ever seen Ian and Christopher Lambert in the same place at the same time?
"...verily did Gun Jesus spaketh unto his disciples and sayeth..."if you want semi-auto, switch it to semi-auto, but we don't really want semi-auto, do we?" And the multitude rejoiced in His wisdom and the righteousness of full-auto.
Amen to that.
Amen
"Verily did Gun Jesus sayeth that"
Shirk!
Ron Schramm wowith
I know it's a re-upload and all, but... Fuck it. It's Gun Jesus blessing us with FG-42 goodness, 12/10 watched it again!
@@Sableagle MichaelGnu? Hahahaha
The difference between watching Ian shoot this and the M14 is pretty incredible.
And low, he went forth to bestow his brass bounty upon the great unwashed. Blessed is gun jesus
Thank you pastor for the sermon. I always attend comment mass for my weekly lessons about gun jesus.
I fucking love the comments section
Amen
*lo. Low is a different word entirely.
loxxxton poxxxton *Amen*
That chuckle at the end told me everything I needed to know about the FG42
F*G42
THEfamouspolka
FG, not MG
MG42 is a different weapon, but not less awesome!
@@gorillaguerillaDK
Thank you for proof reading my comments😉 must have been because the F and M keys are so close together on my keyboard!😁
The original comment hasbeen changed to reflect accurate information.
Is either the keyboard retardation, or reflecting on the cost of original 20 round mags... have a great day my friend!!
THEfamouspolka
No problem!
Perhaps it was just a Freudian slip... 😜
I mean, the MG42 is absolutely not less awesome!!!
And a great day to you as well....
Fan Girling 42
You can tell a firearm is well engineered when Ian legitimately likes everything about it
After the war, it was copied by the Americans created M60 HMG from FG42
As a german I imagine the Luftwaffe requested an "Eierlegende Wollmilchsau" which loosely translated to "Egg laying wool milk pig/sow" something that provides everything in one package.
That is an absolutely excellent phrase that I wish translated into English properly, and also wasn't impossible for us to pronounce.
@@johneden2033 the jack of all trades.
@@patrickflying17 It's "jack of all trades" with an added layer of complete absurdity. A jack of all trades is something that can possibly exist. The "Eierlegende Wollmilchsau" is deliberately worded as being utterly, ridiculously absurd...of course, that was in an era before GMOs, so...:P
*Vollmilchsau
Its such a great gun :)
"I hope you guys enjoyed this as much as I did, which I know you didn't"
"This is a recut of a previous video that RUclips decided to squash."
I guess you could call this a Forgotten Video
Nvortex Witty. Made me chuckle. Thanks...
Came to know about this "Paratrooper gun" while playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein and it's my favorite for the game now.
As my favorite weapon in that game, it also came with a banger of an ost as the Paratroopers came , blasting me as they glided down. I was shocked and then when I got the gun , I was shocked even more. I loved the gun too much.
Also , if you've played Medal of Honor Airborne, I would love to play a remastered and expanded version of that game with the FG42 and with VR support.
wtf that thing sounds like pissed off thunder.
From shepherds to rifles, the Germans engineer some good stuff.
This is underrated
Americans engineer great stuff.
@@robertthomas5906 Few and far between. But German Engineering isn't what it used to be either. Looks like real engineering went the way of the dodo when the mass market and short term profit emerged...
It kind of demonstrates the problems the Germans had in general though: it's great if you have the ammo for it, if you can get one of the 7,000 built, if you can keep it clean, if you can fire it on a stable platform...a lot of ifs. Great when the stars align, but soldiers aren't usually so lucky.
As Napolean said "Prussia was hatched from the mouth of a canon" !
In the early CODs, the weapon actually has the same sound which is really impressive.
Stop talk about fking games.
I still remember the moment in game when you first get this gun.
@@malteschaper3782 Yeah, scoped version in that french village
I would just like to take a moment to express my sincere appreciation of that spectacular ring-like muzzle flash.
The famous Gun Jesus Halo.
there are two things we germans are the best in it: Losing World Wars and making the best guns in the world
And rocket
That was 2 things lol
Oh you're good at stomping the French when they talk shit, and just about everybody else. Unfortunately for you, the French are good at screaming for help from the Brits and the Brits are good at getting US to open lines of credit for them. Once we open up a credit account for the Brits and others, well, Yeah. You guys are awesome at making awesome stuff. Not so awesome at picking politicians. Brits decided to let the bankers run things for a long time and for a long time it worked. Right up to when it didn't. Nobody knows why it failed. The US lets the lawyers run things. It's worked so far. Nobody knows how. Nobody is sure it will keep working. The bankers got into making decisions and we all saw how that went. It happens every 40 years or so. The businessmen are really good at running things but they don't have the stamina to stand against the lawyers. They're rich, eventually they take their ball and go where they can enjoy their lives instead of fighting the never ending war. The lawyers, they get off on it.
@@lesliewilson2122
Yup the men behind their desk are opportunies, benefiting from certain event but nothing wrong with that either
iLLeag7e He never said they were good at counting.
Greetings from a Kraut living in Germany/Black Forest. It makes me proud how much appreciation all of you have for this FG42. What a shame that we have so strict gun laws in Germany, so i will never be able to shoot such a legendary gun.
At least i was able to shoot the MG42 during my time in the German Bundeswehr..😎
It's not a shame. Look to the U.S. - the weapon law destroy the whole sociity.
@@Brustpilot Society in US is just fine. Uns geht's hervorragend. The media just likes to focus on the weakest link. That sells more papers.
@@erniefrijole2618 Over ten thousand deaths every year due to gun injuries is not just "media". It's statistics. In addition to two other things that are wrong in your text this is just stupid.
@@Brustpilot Spare me SJW! There are about 430 accidental gun deaths in the US per year. About the same as there are by accidental electrocution. Unintentional falls are by far the biggest accidental threat to American lives.
@@erniefrijole2618 2020: 19276 Deaths due to the use of firearms. Source: Gun Violence Archive; statista.
That you only count accidental firearms use is sheer ignorance.
Shame on the U.S.
Another fact:
The U.S. are the best at nothing, except military spending.
de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/579175/umfrage/vorfaelle-und-todesfaelle-durch-schusswaffen-in-den-usa/
Let’s be honest...
we don’t care about the semi-auto setting. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 can only purchase semi's xD
@@EroticOnion23 not true at all lol civilians in the USA can buy full autos
I'm sure it doesnt take that much of a genius to modify it to full auto. Heck soldiers were able to turn the Garand full auto in the field
@@matthewredman7814 We could turn the British model 7.62 L1A1 slr into full auto. With a matchstick.
There's no way you're gonna tell me this isn't a light machine gun. I don't care if it was intended for "dual use". You put a tripod on this and it's a solid light machine gun.
Closed bolt in semi, open bolt in full auto...Those Germans sure know how to design weapons.
Doesnt that "new" IAR the marines got do the same thing........wait.....hk..germans...doh
Actually it's seriously suboptimal design, a product of wartime haste. The firing pin is fixed to the bolt carrier so closed bolt is some sort of "semi-open bolt", that is in order to strike the primer the whole bolt carrier has to move forward for a short distance together with the firing pin under the pressure of the main spring. This is both unreliable and not conducive to great accuracy, so in practice the soldiers probably never bothered with the semi-auto setting.
@@luciansoc6709 On the opposite, I'd say that german fallschirmjäger being elite troops with excellent training and high discipline, they'd use exactly as intended in semiauto mode unless in fire supression roles no matter the slight drawback you mention.
Besides, by the time the FG-42 was "widely" issued (widely as in "as many of them issued given the very small production run"), it was 1944, the logistic situation was pretty desperate, and they would've been highly reluctant to waste any ammo, and full auto with 8mm Mauser (as controllable as it might be with this gun) is, in most situations, wasting ammo with each trigger pull.
Lucian SOC
That is what I was curious about. If it fires from an open bolt the firing pin is usually a nub milled into the bolt. I wasn’t sure how they got past the complexity of two different firing solutions for semi and full basically needing two fire groups🤔. So the bolt still has to be released to fire in semi-auto and I’m guessing there is not hammer? Interesting. Them wacky Germans ....
And the Germans did turn brass and lead into smiles on the face of gun jesus...and gun jesus did praise the disciples at rheinmettal for their good works
Well, he'd better praise the disciples at Krieghoff (located at the time in Suhl, the Gun-Asgard of Europe) who actually built the thing, since Rheinmetall had bigger fish to fry.
Gun Jesus gave up his weekend for your sins
I like it how he, as a left hander, MUST shoot it right-handed. :) This rifle could be well used for therapeutic purposes.
The way the brass kicks out at lightspeed then immediately begins slowly traveling forward is a literal 10/10 for me.
I was about to comment how fascinated I was by the way the brass ejects
I agree, I could watch this gun cycle all day. It is very much one of those ASMR experiences.
The Germans mastered full auto mg’s with the advent of roller bearing bolt systems. Damn crafty krouts I tell ya
Agreed, the deployed roller-blowback system is in many ways superior to the dominant gas-operated systems, yet I find the recoil operation to be the cleanest type of operating system, however save for the WW I MGs and the Johnston rifle/LMG, this design is not incorporated into modern firearms.
Dankeschön!
Funny how the delayed blowback roller system was designed by a maker of tin camping lanterns. New perspective on an old problem can sometimes impress.
I imagine that having virtually no drop on the stock from the centerline of the barrel (made possible by the high mounted sights) helps minimize muzzle rise from the recoil.
Also, that looks like a hell of a muzzle brake to help reduce the recoil.
That thing sounds more terrifying than I would have ever expected. I feel bad for the people on the other end of it in History.
Hmmm, you have a _very interesting_ profile pic.
Well, don't mind me. Just continue on with your discussions.
@@randomstranger_3 Thank you, I think.
*Ian Reenacting Christ Driving the Money-changers from the Temple With FG42*
This is perfect and devoid of all sin.
Hahaha lolol
This wasn’t a re-enactment though this is the real thing
+Leonardo's Truth How do you know that wasn't Jesus' ultimate goal as well? The channel didn't exist back then, so he wanted them to save up for the '10s.
0:50 One gun to rule them all.
And twenty rounds to find them.
One magazine to bring them all...
Roses are red
Violets are blue
CHOWDAH PASS ME THE MG42!
Thats the wrong weapon
sargennipple
“Pass me the MG42” you must workout 🥴😂
*FG42
Interesting how much the barrel actually wobbles when seen in slow-motion. This is likely a big factor in a weapons accuracy.
Looks to me like it's "tuned" by having the length and bolt action carefully developed so that the wave that develops in the barrel with each round fired has the muzzle return to center when the next round reaches it.
The Ferrari 250 GTO of guns.
As a petrolhead, this is very accurate.
@War Zone Last I checked it was in the $200k-300k range.
@@pweter351 he was talking about how expensive and rare it is. Any car guy would know the analogy.
@@pweter351 the GT40 is a very nice car, i'd take over any modern Ferrari, but it's no 250 GTO.The GTO is the most expensive, most desirable car for collectors. in May 2018 a GTO was sold for $70 million.
That's why the most desirable pieces of anything are called the "250 GTO of (insert type)".
@@eddgrs9193 I would rather say a Mercedes 300 SL because of it's rarity (by that I mean less rare), design, and that it's German
I already watched this, like, long ago. Was there an error?
The description says: "This is a recut of a previous video that RUclips decided to squash". It's youtube being youtube.
I was having a strange Dejavu and was sitting here wondering if I was going crazy.
Damn it happened before with different videos.
I actually forgot that we saw this before.
But it was clever to post it after another FG42 video.
FG42 fired full auto. How could there be an error?
IT'S A MIRICLE!! Praise be upon him
getting paid to shoot a fg42 ian is one lucky dude
While I prefer the aesthetics of the 1st model, this was improved in basically every way and remains my holiest of holy grail firearms... And no, before someone says it: the odd grip on the 1st FG was _not_ for firing downward while parachuting. This was an age where pistol grips, especially on rifles, were very new and as untrusted. The 1st FG's grip was made to mimic the width and angle of the standard Mauser K98/k stock, so troops would already be used to it and not need "special training". Once they realized this was idiotic, and the value of pistol grips on rifles period, the odd angle was done away with for this 2nd model. The whole grip thing is the myth I hear the most.
Also worth noting is that the stock and bipod were both made bigger and stronger in this 2nd model as well, but they never did come up with a solution to the forearm cracks that were the one ongoing negative issue before the war ended. Beyond that, the FG-42 is one of very, *extremely* few "multi purpose" arms, and maybe THE only period selectfire full-size rifle that lives up to its hype and functions as designed. It was light, handy, ergonomic, very high quality & well made, and unlike basically every other full-size battle rifle or LMG out there, it is actually controllable and effective in auto mode either as LMG or shouldered. And as a marksman/DMR role in closed-bolt semi, it's highly accurate; even moreso with the ZF4 optic as many had, certainly outshooting the Kar98. It looks odd, it's right handed only, it's limited like the BAR with 20rnd mags, and as noted front grip cracks remained an issue. Minor issues though. In short the FG pretty much was the multi-role weapon it was hyped up to be, and that is a rare thing indeed. Also, it served as the basis for the M60 (just an FG with belt-feed really), and elements of it went on to influence several weapons including the AR15/M16.
Thus the FG became a legend in it's own time.
Watching the slo-mo ejected brass flight patterns is dope. That is engineering at it's finest and the optimal ejection angle in my opinion.
The reproduction costs less than an original magazine? Gawd!
@War Zone Ian said in one of his comments that original FG42 mags sell for around $5-6k.
@@crazyfvck I said, "Whoaaaa!" out loud when I read that.
@@nomadben Yeah, they're pretty pricey. But if you have $250,000 to buy an original FG42, then spending a "measly" $10-12k on a pair of spare mags is no problem ;)
@@crazyfvck I suppose it's all relative... I'd definitely rather buy a garage full of cars and motorcycles for that price, but that's just me!
God...DAMN am I ever jealous. That thing sings like a lion and a tiger dueling to the death on full auto. Pure German gold.
Luftwaffe: we need a new gun for our paratroopers.
Arms manufacturer: understood, what desing features do you want?
Luftwaffe: Ja.
MP44: I'm the first assault rifle to see combat successfully.
FG42: Hold my beer.
This Doesnt make sense
The mp44 was the first rifle how would the fg do better than first
@@averagedaredevilenjoyer5733 the MP44 was fielded in 1944. The FG42 was fielded in 1942, Two Years before the MP44.
Many people believe that the MP44 is the "first" "Assault Rifle"
However, there were several previous "Auto-Rifles" such as the M1918 BAR, etc.
@Mike Hunt It was a squad gun at first tripod and all. But under heavy fire on the move in an assault, guys started carrying it single handed and put it to use. Hope that helps.
FG42 fired full size 7.92mm mauser, making it a battle rifle, akin to the BAR, FAL, G3, or M14. The MP43/MP44 fired 7.92mm kurz. Therefore, it stands as the first intermediate caliber assault rifle... to the best of my knowledge. The M1 carbine fired a weaker .30 cal, but they weren't full auto until the M2 variant came about, which i don't think saw much use in WWII.
"I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did, which you didn't" - I've been watching Ian's videos for years and you know what? He deserves every bit of this experience.
You have to release the ASMR-cut of this video.
If nothing else, the intimidation factor from the sound of this thing is enough to prove its worth. It would be so difficult to keep morale high while headed towards that sound.
Not to mention simultaniously deafening and shaking loose the fillings of any ally stood in the vicinity. The concussion of 8mm mauser combined with that muzzle break must have been obnoxious to say the least.
this weapon is so rare that Imperal Stormtrooper would kill for it...or sell their MG-34 lasergun to get their hands on one :D
2001's Return to Castle Wolfenstein, getting my first FG-42 OMG what a feeling that was. BOSS Tier Godly weapon this is.
Exactly know the feeling, it's the first time i heard from this gun (i was 13 at the time) and boy oh boy did it become an instant favorite of WW2 guns.
2020 and I still find myself coming back to this spectacular video of the FG42, my favorite light machine gun / rifle hybrid. This thing is a beast. I think it's well designed and pretty clever for the time it was produced. Like the StG44, it's a remarkable weapon and not less dangerous today. I still think it's one of the best guns in the world, idea wise and usage, but that's my opinion. Of course there are modern choices that are way better, like the Tar21, FAL, G3, AR10 the list is long.. but this is just such a nice looking classic rifle. I hope you enjoyed it to the max! Love your videos Ian!
I’m here in 2023 and feel the same!
WWII: perhaps the most significant historic example of when quantity beat quality
trapped in Propaganda flick?
1941 Babarossa started
Germany 3.500 tanks USSR 25.000 tanks
18days later USSR lost 11.000 tanks
October 1941 first allied tanks were shipped to USSR arrived (Matilda Mk II)
Dec 1941 Matilda Mk II played a critical rule in defence of moscow (180 of the 670 tanks left to defend the city were Matilda most other were soviet light tanks.first action of Red Army used Matilda 1th. Nov 1941)
By end of 1941 USSR has lost 20.500 tanks (quantity vs quality)
the true shock of 1941 was not the T-34 or KV1 for the Wehrmacht...it was the horrible loose of the Red Army in menpower and tanks.
Jan 1941 the 480 delivered Matilda Mk II represented 40% of the battle ready avaible medium and heavy tanks of the Red Army
1943 the Wehrmacht destroyed the same number of T-34 that USSR could produce
1944 the Wehrmacht destroyed the same number of T-34 that USSR could produce
What won ww2 was control of oil ... USA controlled the majority of the world oil production .. USSR recived massive oil delivery from USA which allowed the Red Army to constantly fight without takeing care about oil reserve... 50% of the overall Red Army fuel consuption of ww2 was delivered by USA... and 95% of all high octan fuel for the fighter planes. On the other hand Germany run out of oil reserve after 3 months of Babarossa and were constantly extrem short of fuel which handicaped all their movements and were the major reason of looses of equipment.
Yes. The Allied and Axis forces were not comparable in people, machinery, or resources. As of 1940, Germany had 70 million people and Japan had 73 million. Compared to USA with 132, UK with 48, France with 107, Soviets with 168. Roughly a 3 to 1 manpower advantage. For manufacturing and production, the USA by itself was probably ahead of Germany and Japan combined. For natural resources such as oil and iron and farmland, the USA had more within its own borders. Unlike Germany and Japan which had to get everything from outside their borders. In hindsight, the Allied combined power was way too much for the Axis powers. The 4-5-6 years of WW2 were not easy. But it became a mismatch once the USA fully joined in late 1941.
@@thenoblepoptart By the Summer of 1942 the Soviets had lost 34.000 tanks of all types, the overwhelming majority of which was light tanks, on the eastern front. I am not sure why you would rather focus on the very few and VERY far between Soviet heavy tanks that were inevitably just ambushed by 88s and destroyed from a distance once the first few of them were encountered, not to mention that the T-34 was exceedingly rare during the first stages of Barbarossa and that German tanks and AT canons were more than sufficient to take out the vast majority of Soviet armoured forces, which is exactly why they managed to perform the biggest encirclement in history in Kiev, of about 800.000 Red Army troops, as well as take Stalingrad, encircle Leningrad and reach the gates of Moscow in less than 6 months.
There is a reason why the Eastern Front alone, isolated from the rest of the war, is on its own the biggest war that was ever fought in history. If the Wehrmacht was a pushover then the Soviets wouldn't have lost as much as they did in either equipment or manpower. Victory was paid the heaviest of prices and you should never undermine that just because you want to hype up a tank you think is cool.
Ian I will be your personal assistant for free for life as long as I get to go to the range with you and shoot these firearms. Think about it!
Hey. No. Get in line.
You me one of his disciples
@DillonEP Assistant TO gun jesus!
I expect there are some who would pay him to let them assist him in such matters.
Imagine being on the Warfront and hearing multiple of those things fire in the Distance at your Direction. Dude that Sound just screams Death.
Paratrooper weapon that sound would have been all around .
I don't think these were ever widely deployed. Maybe it was pure Nazi stupidity, I don't really know. I know I read Hitler liked his Kar98 from WW1, clearly technologically outpaced, but bullet expense could be genuine thing, too, in 1940.
The sound of the nebelwerfer was far more intimidating..
@@gibberconfirm166 They weren't widely deployed across standard Heer troops, no, because this wasn't an army project. This was developed for the Luftwafe's airborne troops, obviously less numerous than standard infantry divisions, and even more obviously of a different service (inter-service rivalry was particularily fierce in nazi germany). Accordingly they weren't never given very high priority, and there wasn't a huge demand of them as german paratrooper units weren't very numerous.
Meanwhile the army had it's own semi/automatic rifle projects going on, in the shape of the Gewehr 43 and also the MKb42 (later developed as the StG44). The army wasn't interested in a fully automatic weapon firing a full sized cartridge, rather on semiautomatic rifles on full size cartridges and select fire automatic carbines on intermediary cartridges (what later was the birth of the assault rifle). The FG42 was the weapon resulting out of a Luftwaffe requirement, the army wasn't involved in it nor interested in using it.As a result not many were manufactured, no.
But they were deployed and deployed in numbers where elite Fallschirmjäger units were present. A good instance was Monte Cassino, where the german airborne troops had this weapon as standard issue. And the gun did give a very good account of itself there (And anywhere else it was present at).
I know the M60 was based on elements of the MG42 and not the FG42 (pointing out I know the differences). However, the externals have a lot of similarities to the M60 for me. Imagine the FG42 with polymer furniture, slightly larger and belt fed...
The M60 is, at its core, an FG42 action with an MG42 feed system.
@@ForgottenWeapons So glad you said that. When I've mentioned this before in other places. I always got laughed at.
I believe Springfield Armory also made a FG-42 adapted to use a side-feeding MG belt.
"However" 😉😂
thegeneral123
If people laughed at you for that, they're ignorant!
The M60 is heavily inspired by both the FG42 and MG42 - but the MG42 is just far more famous, so perhaps that's why it's usually that one that gets mentioned...
DICE: Let's nerf it into oblivion, shall we?
Tried it again and had to get rid of the telescopic sight and fire with iron sights because of how less damage it does now
#NotMyTTK
Real life: actually good control.
DICE: let's make it shoot like a Barett.
If they didn’t, though, would anyone use anything else?
@@herobrineharry7698 News flash: the FG42 never needed a nerf as nobody ever complained about it.
Just as impressive as German WW2 Rocket Science
My favorite weapon in Wolfenstein. Love that thing...
cue "Base Alarm"
Screw the G11, THIS is Kraut space magic!
The sound of that thing is terrifying gota love the germans
StG 44, the first assault rifle for both long range and close range.
Luftwaffe: Excuse you?
@@SonOfTheDawn515 And that the FG42 isn't an assault Rifle
@@SonOfTheDawn515 well, the original comment said that. I was just continuing off yours
Awesome video! My grandfather was a German paratrooper during the war. He used the FG42 in northern France. Loved it.
That's pretty baller. Just curious, did he use ear plugs?
@@utrak WHAT?????
lol....yeah he didn't hear too good. But I mean, there were more things around firing than his own weapon. Mortars, 88 cannons etc
My grandfather was fighting at Monte Cassino as a German Paratrooper.
@Duke Of Prunes Damn lol, imagine if. Thank god for the internet, people like you, anscestors of the warriors of the last world war can randomly meet each other.
Note: Most of the people in my family who lived under the war are gone. We have no family stories that we speak of, but one of my uncles has told me that some of my ancsestors under the war fought for, or were part of the nazi regime. we dont know, but my father have been very interested in the history norwegian SS divisons, and when I was around 10 he once told me people may say that our older generations were nazis, and how it wasnt true(I can easily see my father lying here tbh, with good reason). my grandfather prays to god like our family is cursed or full of sins and he would know. Most of that generation were rather odd or even cruel or very selfish. Idk what they went through after the war was over. My grandfather spent half his young life at sea away from home. And actually married with an ancestor of a norwegian noble family. This got rather long lol..
@florian deutsch you grandfather is awesome.
that sounds beautiful good lord insane a weapon that old fires that quick firng 8mm mauser
The quick thing isn't the "magic" - other guns fire quickly, too but in full auto they bounce around (see Ian's vid on the full automatic M-14) and you can't hit the broad-side of a supertanker with it (much less a barn!)...gotta love my ancestor's weapons...gotta hate what they chose to do with them :(
First time I've seen this weapon fired. Hardly any muzzle rise at all, especially shooting the big 8mm round. I don't see any other rifle in this caliber type that comes remotely close to being able to stay on site picture during full auto mode. Crazy! Aaand it's 80 year old tech! They got it right with this one...
Wow! Even with a rifle cartridge that powerful, that thing barely moved off target at all! Even in the slow-mo there wasn’t much in the way of barrel whip. Muzzle brakes work. The only unpleasant side effects are the noise, the blast, and the flash.
I mean, the really aggressive sound of the rifle might give the wielder a psychological advantage over his opponent
Favorite gun in Wolfenstein
I played Return to Castle Wolfenstein as a boy. It was an amazing game.
yeeeees
This thing is my favorite gun of the war. It covered the role of the Kar98K and the MG34 in one gun, but some people don't understand that it's not just two guns it's replaced.
It (I believe) could fire rifle grenades with an adapter, like the Kar98K it could be equipped with a scope and be used as a marksman rifle. Like the MG34, it could be used for suppressing fire, or for more accurate support fire (Ala Bren)
It wasn't incredibly long, so it could even be easily used in close quarters, room to room, fighting (Full auto from the hip as you push down halls, something the Kar can't be used for really)
This gun, is one of the best guns of the war, if not THE best gun.
What about Stg44?
@@omaversteher1 Fulfilled less of the roles honestly. It was more of an assault rifle, where this is like a battlerifle. I also, personally, prefer side magazines or top magazines, as they make bipods more useful. You can use an FG42 from the prone position with a bipod, while the STG44 never had a bipod, and couldn't really use one except on a ledge where the mag can hangdown.
Also, FG42, in 1942
STG44 in 1944...
The side magazine also made it easy to make aiming errors or come of balance. It was horribly loud and dirty and would nowadays, or even during peacetime at that time, never pass a safety assessment, as it was designed so closely to what the material could possibly endure, that the danger of it blowing up was real. It was also terribly overpowered, and the ammo was too heavy, but that was a concession to not introducing another logistical nightmare with yet another cartridge..
It looks kinda awesome, though.
@@caelodevorago608 FG42 is the designation for the design year. Doesn't mean the gun was adopted in 1942, because it wasn't. The FG-42 was formally adopted in late1943 only, and the 2nd pattern FG-42 (the most produced one) only began reaching the units already in 1944.
The StG44 is more nomenclature than anything else, the weapon was in quite extensive combat years before 1944. First iterations of the model (the MKb-42) were in extensive field testing in russia by the end of 1942. By mid1943 more than 10.000 had been issued to the east for combat testing. And that gun could be summed up as an "open bolt STG44" for almost any practical matter.
The MP-43 (which for practical combat purposes already was the StG-44) was also tested on (relatively) important numbers in the East Front, this one beginning in April of 1943, and was formally adopted as an official Heer issue rifle in October 1943 as soon as Hitler officially rescinded his ban on the weapon after receiving the overwhelming positive feedback from the combat trials of the gun. The follow up was the MP-44, later renamed as STG-44.
Keeping in mind that there were almost twice MKb-42s issued for field testing in Russia by mid-43 as FG-42 were ever built, it's easy to see that:
A) both designs were done in the same year (1942)
B) the early patterns of STG-44 actually predate the early pattern FG-42 in extensive field trials (both as the early MKb-42 and MP43) by almost 2 years.
C) Before any FG-42 had even shot in anger, more than 10.000 MKb-42, almost twice as many FG-42s ever built, had seen combat in Russia. That doesn't include the MP-43s sent for combat testing from April 1943.
D) The MP43 was formally adopted by the Heer in October 1943.
E)-The first limited combat use of the 1st pattern FG-42 was September 1943 (during the rescue of Mussolini)...and the weapon wasn't fired in that one at all.
Hence, the StG-44 actually predated the FG-42, and by quite a margin. Unsurprising, btw, because even with all the hiccups caused by Hitler's interference with the program, the MKb-42/MP-43/StG-44 were considered a very high priority development for the Heer, while the FG-42 was a small arms Luftwaffe project and accordingly was considered as a low priority priority weapons program.
it's the muzzlebrake cant attach a grenade launcher but the gun can mount a scope, it has bipod and a bayonet... a complete package
Its weird I never really recall a WW2 movie that had the Germans wielding this weapon. Its always MG42s, MP40s or Karabiner 98k.
Because it was extremely rare, around 4-6 thousand made i believe, and it was only used by paratroopers. While the MG42, MP40s were made in the hundreds of thousand and even millions for the kar98k.
You´ll see some of these(I think) in the Carentan Band of Brothers episode where they go up against the German paratroopers. Kind of overshadowed by all the armor Easy Company had to deal with though.
is only available for Fallschirmjager, german paratroopers, so is a really rare weapon
because it would ruin the budget of the movie
N0rdhen MP-40s were made in 1 million and 14.6 million for Kar98K including about 10 million between 1939-1945.
Why didn't the US resume production of this instead of adopting the M14, which they hoped would do basically the same thing? I mean, it's not like they didn't know it existed; they studied it when designing the M60.
The production costs would have been too high and the profit margin would have been too low. Americans only make weapons when they can make big money out of them. The profit the German arms producers made during the war was ridiculous. Besides, you need really highly skilled workers the level of craftsmen to make this. The only way to resume production would have been, at that time, shortly after the war, to reopen the German manufactury, and to reemploy all the same old workers. They did not want to do this for political and for °moral° reasons. I mean: how would this have looked like to the outer world? Defend °freedom & democracy° with Nazi weapons handmade by Nazis?
@@marcelbork92 Setting up production capabilities when you probably have in captivity the very arms manufacturers themselves, or material relating to the gun's construction would be easy. Or just plain old reverse engineer it. Either way, this gun blows the M14 out of the water in every way, and could have been adopted for 7.62 NATO or .308.Hell, it seems if you remove the bipod it'd be comparable to an FAL or G3, except it's apparently considerably more controllable.
I love the fact that even though separated by action type, nationality and a few years of design work, my Zastava M48B has this same 7.92x57mm Mauser at its heart.
Blessed sound.
"I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did...but YOU DIDN'T!" :-)
FAL: I am big sturdy battle rifle., biggest bull in the house
FG-42: Hold my beer!
FG42: Halten Sie meine Biere, bitte.
I’m surprised nobody took this stock recoil system after the war, it was great the way it was but From what I heard the guy who made it was on a timer so he kind of slapped in gather if they ran this through all the proper channels for a few years they could probably make something like a full auto carbine fire in for power shells or something like that which would solve a lot of problems in the military, I guess it was just all the chaos with the Soviets entering Berlin and the war ending and everybody so angry at the Germans a lot of stuff kind of got lost
It sounds like Zeus splitting boulders with lightening bolts...
You mean Thor, don't ya?
@@BewareOfTheKraut
Seigfried 😁
"I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did. Well, you didn't."
Thanks for rubbing it in, Ian... 😑😑😑
When he get his hand on an FG42, he looks like a happy child. He loves this gun, that's for sure.
What is lovely about the FG42 is that the design principle itself is also simple.
Open bolt: Use the same system as Lewis gun. A notch on the bolt that is released by the trigger.
Closed bolt: Put a second notch for the trigger at the other end of the bolt so it is closed but not fired. Add a spring to make it work like a striker.
And bam. Open-Closed bolt achieved.
Next, make it fire a full powered cartridge.
Head Engineer: What makes gun more controllable?
Engineers: Bipods. Recoil Buffers. Muzzle devices.
Head Engineer: That's a lot of excellent idea guys, I am not sure which one to put.
Engineers: How about all of it?
Head Engineer: And that's the best idea I had today, start working on it.
And that's the core idea of the FG42. Bring tried and proven concepts, all of which work well separately, and combine them into one. Brilliant.
The Germans had all the cool guns.
*Owen Gun, Suomi M31, PPSh-41* Are we a joke to you?
@@ryanlewis9865
Yes
I like the SVT 40.
Gewehr 41 and Gewehr 43 were absolute garbage.
Great...now I have to extricate my grandfather from under the bed now. I know how you feel Pops.
jk
I can bet many a soilder was shell shocked after finding themselves on the business end a couple times.
@1:06 that cartridge ejects PERFECTLY
just a SWISH and FLICK =3
Can you imagine if this had been the stanard issue weapon for the german army in WWII.....
then you would speek German now. Grüße aus Deutschland ;)
If I ever wind up fighting Aliens or Predators, I want to be in command of a battalion of paratroopers armed exclusively with FG42s. (All of this is impossible. 😁)