I voted for the M1, because I’ve felt that it was the easiest to repair/replace. Other helmets that have integrated liners and hardware if any component broke it required a quarter master to repair them. With the M1 if the liner failed just get a whole new fiberglass shell insert and it’s ready. Also felt that since it still continues to be used by some nations as their primary combat helmet, it’s a proven tried and true design that will still be in use well past its 100th birthday.
Italians were pretty pioneering in their equipment, they had a good camouflage really early on, just after WW1 if I'm right. The helmet was really good too and the steel quality is supposedly some of the best out of WW2 era helmets in general. If I had to use one of these in a combat scenario it would probably be that one. Also super comfortable, I have a Bulgarian copy and the liner is really nice. The tests you did of them both made me feel a lot better about my stupid impulse buy of a more affordable steel helmet lol.
The camo was introduced with the m29 shelter quarter/poncho, they also made uniforms from the same camo pattern during ww2, but I think this was more of a later war thing
What is fascinating is that the FRENCH were actually the first credited with developing a cammouflage pattern, and it was BEFORE World War I ever broke out. Another thing, in the early 1900s some BRILLIANT and enterprising officer designed new green uniforms and a helmet for the French Army. Granted the helmet was some sort of pith helmet, but anyway.... Teh uniforms were VERY servicable for combat, but were REJECTED by the French Army General Staff who just LOVED those blue tunics with flamming RED trousers! ~ LOL! Ah, what COULD have been for the French !
I count myself lucky, my dad brought home a SS M35 in great shape after WW2 and years later an older cousin sent me one of the last M1s before he got his new helmet.
I chose the M35 because I'm a WW2 German reenactor and the Stahlhelm has been perfectly comfortable for me, especially my original M42 I restored. I also do WW1 German reenacting. I have never had a problem with the ventholes or really any reduced hearing that alot of people talk about with the stahlhelm. The WW1 stahlhelms do have an issue when you are prone, but the WW2 ones I never noticed an issue when going prone. Also when it comes to thickness and the steel used, I have saw stahlhelms from one manufacturer that are significantly thicker than others. The "Si66" stahlhelms seems significantly thicker than my "W66" stahlhelm.
@@MikeB128 I have worn mine at multiple events and for most of the day and I think if there were any issues with fit or comfort, it would come up. By your logic, the only helmet you can have an opinion on for comfort is the ACH.
M33 rocks! I have all 4 of these helmets, including a British Mk II Brodie, a Japanese Type 90, and a French M26. I'm actually glad that I was in the like 3% of people who voted for the M33. The M33 was a pioneer in many ways, and when I wear it, it's nice and snug. Very comfortable and I feel well covered/protected by its design. Out of all 7 of the helmets, I have to say the easiest one for me to wear is actually the SSh-40. I have a size 3 because my melon is massive, and it's very loose and comfortable, if a little heavy.
Italian M33, lightweight, comfortable, and good ballistic protection. Also looks good. I got mine from your store. Italians had the best uniforms, totally with you on that one.
Nice discussion Mike, and definitely a good followup for that poll. M35 might have the looks but I've always preferred the M1- a big part of that is having one since I was a kid, and spending a fair amount of time "heads on" with them. I had never realized the Italian design predated the others and very likely influenced them. Definitely going to keep an eye out for one now, although my big head doesn't make it easy. That's another reason why I favor the M1- the adjustability is super nice
I used the M-1 while I was in the service; I don’t recall anybody having any complaints with it. I really liked it and bought mine. A really good piece of equipment; I never met anybody that was seriously injured by a penetration of the M-1. A great piece of gear. 😊
Actually, german M35 have springs inside metall rim. But in my opinion M33 best of those. Also, I had wearing my own pre-WW2 M33 in time of airraid\shelling alarms before I get cevlar one.
When I went to Basic in the mid-80's, we were issued the M1. I didn't see a PASGT until I got to my first duty station. I still have a soft spot for M1 as a result.
The best for size AND USE variability is the American helmet by far. Human heads do not come in exact metric or other standardized sizes. If your head come to a 57.5 then with the M35 the Sz 58 will be loose and the 57 will give you a headache. With the US M1 thanks to the adjustment, you can also wear your field cap or wool jeep cap (Radar O'Reiley style wool hat) under the helmet on cold days.
Stahlhelm looks coolest, also the shape is good for debris and shrapnel etc. but for protection from pistol bullets or so I'd say M33 as it's a good compromise.
I worked at a Steel Mill (Sharon Steel) made steel for WW2 helmets. Still had the Range in an old building on site they used to shoot the helmets and otherwise test the steel.
Mike B. I LOVE your videos! Sorry I missed the poll, and like you I really liked that Italian helmet. Here are some observations, I hope you may find interesting. Regarding the M-35 German helmet. I found that the earlier German Stalhelm of 1916 was in many ways far superior to the M-35. First the suspension was better, a simple three leaf leather pattern and leather pads were pocketed and filled with horse hair to add extra padding and separation from the wearer's skull and the helmet's top. Secondly the flanges did not come down near as far in the M-1916 as they did with the latter M-35 models. I'm not sure exactly how they fired in the prone, but even what I have mentioned so far warrants further examination. I was in the U.S. Army during one of its great transitional periods. When I entered into service in 1983 we were still issued the M-1 Steel Pot. I was issued this helmet not only in basic training, but at my first duty station too. I did not get the (then new) PASGT helmet until my second duty station in Germany in 1985. Now we not only balked at the look of the thing (many of us felt it looked too much like a "Nazi helmet") but there were OTHER problems with it as well -- namely that the flarings that covered the ears went TOO LOW (much like the German M-35) This reduced our ability to pick up ambient sounds, and it was MUCH easier to sneak up on a G.I. wearing one of these than it was a regular steel pot. This was WHY the U.S. Military tried out the RBR F6 series of combat helmets. These were intended as a "fix" to the PASGT problem. Now from what I understand, RBR was either a British company that had a factory in Virginia, or it was a joint Anglo-American venture. Either way, they had one plant in the U.S. (Virginia) and another in Great Britain. Thus there are TWO versions of the RBR F6. The U.S. versions looks very similar to the PASGT helmet, only the ear farings do not extend as low. I THINK this helmet was nicknamed the "SPECTRE" (but I could be mistaken) I recall either in the late 1980s or sometime in the 1990s *Soldier of Fortune* magazine ran an article about the military experimenting with the "Spectre" helmet (which again I believe was a U.S. made F6) and in that article they wrote quite a bit about the ambient sound problem being the one they were trying to fix. Even the later ACH (which I detest for purely asthetic reasons, as it simply looks "moronic" to me) was conscious of this problem and was manufactured with higher ear flarings The BRITISH made RBR F6 looks a lot like the good old M-1 steel pot. I have both helmets and LOVE them both. EITHER one would be an improvement over the PASGT helmet in my opinion.
M1 probolody the best just because of the well adjustable liner, it's also the most stable in my experience. No experience with the Italian one The minor difference in ballstic protection and shape will make no difference in outcome of the war or even make a meaningful difference if your chance of survival I found SSH40's liner to be very unstable, but the shape seems good Not WW2, but I found the East German helmet liner to be the best of the non padded system, but the shape isn't great.
I voted M33. It reminds me an awful lot of the Swede M37. Which, might I remind you, is the only helmet that actually managed to shoot you back Mike. lol
Out of my helmet collection, (ww2 American helmet(was actually used in ww2) a stahlhelm, and a Japanese helmet) my favorite is the stahlhelm, it’s well protected, quite snug and tough. in second has to be the American one, quite secure, comes in two pieces and also very comfortable. the Japanese does get the job done, lightweight, but the neck strap is quite confusing, and it’s not that protective unlike the American and German helmets
@@KumaFall Vietnam ones have the rim seam on the back and WW2 has it on the front. So if you look at the rim and the seam is on the back it’s WW2 in origin, they were used in the Korean War and in Vietnam as well too so it might be period to both wars.
@@celticperspective5183 I’ll just describe it. It came with a cover with text that says: Cover helmet camouflage Dsa100-76-f-u973 8415-00-105-0605 01 Mpls. Soc. F/t blind inc. The inside shell is made of plastic and the strap is not made of leather but more of a…knitted strap? And a ball-connector for the strap
@@KumaFall Not really sure what that actually means I’m not well versed in US helmets and what the stamps and stuff means lol. Just look at the rim of the steel shell, you’ll see a small line where it’s been snipped to be folded over, if it’s on the front it’s WW2 and if it’s on the back it’s post war manufactured
Only thing I dislike about the M1 is the steel pots tendency to separate from the liner. I'm sure it's a fitting or shrinkage issue but I have the problem with my 1940s dated liners, 1952 liners, vietnam liners, and 1980s liners with the pop out webbing.
One thing about the M-1, with some minor adjustments the same helmet was worn by Paratroopers and tankers (steel shell when needed) all the other countries, British, Germans… etc had to develop a completely different helmet for their Paratroopers and for their tankers.
Though an impressive helmet, one great disadvantage is the same one we found in the PASGT -- loss of ambient sound -- which can beome important patrolling in the woods or clearing buildings in urban areas.
Most steel helmets were takeoffs of the WW1 American historic armor designer, Major Bashford Dean. The Italian M33 design, Soviet M40 and US M1 helmets are all takeoffs of Major Bashord Dean's WW1 era designs. I concour with your conclusion as I also think the Italian M33 was the overall superior of all 4 including the Stahlhelm. The British M44 helmet design looks like an effective design. This design was also a German last WW2 era experimental helmet design. We must remember that the defects, weaknesses of the privious Stahlhelm designs was the reason the OKW came up with the M44/45 Stahlhelm which later became the East German M56 Stahlhelm. Also the East Germans came up with an alternative export helmet that looks very similar to the Italian M33 design.
I love the look of the WW11 British Paratrooper helmet , so iconic with the camo jackets .... The 1976 film '' The Eagle has landed '' shows them to full effect , as the Germans use them to fool the English village folk
Yeah, appearances aren't everything. The Stahlhelm sucked for direct hits in both World Wars, but everyone jerks off over the iconic shape. War isn't a fashion contest.
I'll go with the m1 because I got to wear my great grandpa's when I was a kid and I have to pick the 98k as my favorite weapon for the same reason. No objectivity here.
11:40 well other than the subjective nature of style, I looked up the Italian uniforms of wwii and while better looking than the Allie’s, their combat uniforms aren’t on a par to my eye as far as cool and threatening is concerned. As far as headgear is concerned, I think the less prolific use of helmet covers (aside from the Italian paratroopers) also plays a role.
Of course most people chose the M35. It just looks cool as shit, it's the most iconic. It has style, the design is gorgeous. I'm not in a war right now which is why I have an M35. -
Mike be question it’s stupid i know but where did you get those racks for you’re guns? reason i ask is because i’m looking for some that are wide enough for my old guns but also strong enough because i had some and they slowly bent because of the weight. thanks man
I always figured the profile on PASGT helmet weren't based on German stahlhelms (they looked different like what the fuck) but were based on old Soviet helmets like SSh39 but you pointed out that Italian M33 helmet influenced SSh39/40 too. Pretty cool, thanks for educational video! I'm sure most people would like to hear you talk more
Just a note though on the german ballistic test you made was based on a finnish m40/55 german contract helmet and they were made out of cheaper and more brittle metal than the german wartime period ones so it's not a totally fair comparison.
M-1 all day long. And, by far. While most or all of these were made of Hadfield steel - invented by the British, I believe. Basically, the same steel as quality bicyle frame tubes. Wiki calls it Mangalloy. ALmost all of these were rated as being able to resist typical handgun caliber rounds at 50 meters. The high velocity Tokarev was an exception. The shape then becomes important to deflection of impact. Even the Romans were well aware of that and their best designs were quite round with reinforcing riveted crush ribs or embossed ribs, with very large flanges to deflect blows. Suspension and shock absorption also plays a role in what constitutes the "best" design. The m-1 was a completely new and modern helmet, with sopfisticated suspension made for shock reduction and adjustment to fit. Both shape and shock deflection goes to the M-1. The liner did indeed provide additional "travel" of impact and did save lives when the steel shell was penetrated by rifle bullets on several witnessed occasions. It was very flexible and tough, made of various types of resin impregnated canvas or early nylon type fabric. I disagree with the video on this. Coverage of the M-1 was also excellent while not hindering the soldiers ability to look around in the prone position. The rear flange relief was high enough, but not so as to lose all protection integrity. The sides covered as much as the German helmet - and - could be adjusted to sit high or low to provide even more. Just looking at the two side by side does not reveal the degree of coverage of the M-1. You have to look at multiple photos of WW2 soldiers wearing both and extrapolate the coverage in a profile view. Those men who seem to have a high setting helmet either have not properly adjusted it or they may be wearing a replacement and haven't gotten around to it.. The US M-1 has a very deep dome and could comfortably ride low enough to be just as sheilding as the vaunted, but flawed German helmet. The value of having a two part system was covered, but the ballistic benefits were under stated and in part unexpected by the Army. From the head to the feet, US personal gear in WW2 was TopNotch, not made for parade, but for utility in the field. Both French and German civilians were reported to have commented on the very proper and correct turn out of German troops, but had disdain for American troops because they appeared to be criminals and sloppy in their battle dress. That was because American BDU's were purpose built for the task of fighting and killing - especially the parachute infantry. All other European uniforms were a version of their parade dress.
I could not point to a better boomer-waffen diatribe than this. You obviously haven't seen my ballistic tests on all of these helmets..... Another dumb "YEAH MURICA!" take.....
@@MikeB128 Mike, take a breath. I never called you out for being wrong. I just have a different opinion on the M-1, which gets my vote - which you requested. All the helmets are about equal in steel quality, but the US model has advantages based upon examination of those other types - most of which hadnt essentially changed since WW1. The US M-1 was a completely modern combat helmet for its time. I also added some very broadly applied information on the general qualities of American equipment in WW2, and some trivia from readings of Eiropean opinions of American troops. It wasn't a rebuttal aimed at you.
I get that, but it comes across as just another typical "MURICA THE BEST" sort of thing. It's not about the fact that you disagree with me, I was commenting on the delivery. All good.
@@MikeB128 👍 nah, nothing like the 'murica" crowd. I'm actually often critical of what America has done in my name during my 67 years. Most of the overly braod content of my remarks were an acknowledgement that , just prior to WW2, the US only had 139,000 men in the army, no tanks and no modern aircraft except for the early B-17. We did have a great navy with well developed aircraft carrier doctrine. But the army was pathetic. Marshall sacked pretty much every one that was of the Old Guard. However, once we entered the war, the US transformed into a juggernaut, with no other power on earth able to stop it - even if combined against the US. Itwasn't just about how many ships, planes and boots we could put out - it was also the fast development of technoloy right down to the buttons. helmet technology was among those thousands of different threads of research and production. Not to put too much on Wiki, but there is a very good synopsis there that talks about the M-1 development. While it dioes not discuss comparative features with other helmets, it is interesting to see the forward thinking that sets the M-1 apart. The specific reference to the test using the .45 ACP is of note. The M-1 was a verytough item of protection, well thought out. Cheers, and keep up the great content.
Yeah the M1 is a great design, just in my personal ballistic tests, it sucked. The Germans apparently shot one helmet out of each lot with an 8mm at 100 meters and it "didn't penetrate" which is propaganda, I assume the U.S. did something similar with the whole "It'll stop a .45" thing. If you watch that vid, it doesn't show it being shot in one frame. Then again, I question literally everything I see, but through my own testing, the only two helmets in this vid that stopped most pistol rounds effectively were the M33 and SSh-40.
The German helmet was not the most successful in protecting the head. During the war in the USSR, tests were carried out on German helmets and it was found that they had less protection from bullets than Soviet ones. In particular, this was caused by a decrease in strength in bending zones, which had a significant area. Apparently, the Germans themselves had the same opinion, since at the end of the war they developed a new helmet, which the GDR used in the form of the M56.
@@MikeB128 Да, я посмотрю эти видео. Я часто просматриваю обзоры ваших шлемов, чтобы определить шлемы, которые приобретаю, а также из интереса к теме. Я плохо понимаю английский язык на слух, но, к счастью, есть субтитры. К сожалению, сейчас в России небольшой выбор иностранных шлемов, а цены выросли. Я бы желал, чтобы люди коллекционировали шлемы, а не использовали на войне.
That's interesting, however it probably wasn't comfortable for you maybe because the helmet was in the wrong size? There are different sizes of this kind of helmet. Now if I would have voted I would have voted for the German, and Italian M33 helmets to be the best at last by shape. Sure we could redesigning make liner improvements but I'm mainly talking about the shell itself. As for the helmet shape or shell goes there's a reason why the modern helmets are shaped similar to the German one, and it has to do with the studies that they did and things flying around in the battlefield behave. The German style helmet gives the maximum protection for the best weight and visibility. The Italian helmet however did something more similar and probably was more user-friendly when it comes to certain situations where the back of the neck is more free for movement. Personally I don't really like the M1 helmet, I think it's the most uncomfortable helmet for my experience out of the modern steel helmets I have worn so far.
Trust me, I know about helmets..... I had the right size. The M35/40/42 liners aren't great for wearing for long periods of time. If the M1 is correctly adjusted, it's actually quite nice, but most people don't know how to adjust it so it sits correctly and is comfortable.
@@MikeB128 well if you want to get ultra realism you don't get a choice you get what the your country's army issues. So I guess in ultra realism I get a M1 pot 🪖
I am the daughter of parents grew up in the greatest generation. I saw World War II through their eyes. I absolutely despise the German helmet. I think it’s ugly it doesn’t look well designed and from what you said it really wasn’t a very good helmet. It’s two connected with what the Nazis were doing in my mind. I absolutely hate it. My favorite helmet, obviously is the American M 1. I think it’s a handsome looking helmet and it’s screams America.
They worked, good protection from directly above, but anything else isn’t as good as the other designs. Us brits switched over to a new steel helmet during the war but not everyone got one with the Brodie being most common. The Turtle helmet is quite good and is a lot more well rounded than the Brodie, probably about as good as the M1
Technically there were NO M40 and M42 Stahlhelms, only modifications put into production 1940 and 1942, they were all considered M35 (besides FJ lids, etc etc). The terms M40 and M42 were created by collectors, long after the war.. Also The Prewar German M35 was made from Molybdenum steel and the later helmets were made from Manganese Silicon Steel, because the main supply of Molybdenum came from North and South America at the time. The steps for Heat Treatment for German Stahlhelms changed with the change of steel used to produce the newer versions of the German M35, this accounts for different ballistic test results. The downside to the German M35 was as he said, the prone position tilt but also the fact that different shell sizes had to be made and different liner sizes to fit the different shells, whereas the M1 had basically a one size fits all shells and adjustable liners, there are exceptions to this for sizing larger heads. Also the German M35 design required 3 split pins to attach the liner to the shell.. Which was eliminated in the post war, west German M53.
@@MikeB128 What's your problem..?? I'm annoying you by pointing out facts..?? You brought up the category of Stahlhelms, if it's so boring to you then maybe don't post videos on the subject... I mean if you want to get accurate, don't be so pedantic yourself with those tiny little specifics on a subject. PANB 👉👌 FYI, I wasn't standing up for the Stahlhelm and I pointed out it's shortcomings. Go on a diet, you'll live longer, sport.
Probably the way you had the liner set up. With the p64 liners the helmet wouldn’t fly off when not wearing the chinstrap. If you used the chinstrap the helmet bounce would be reduced by a bit.
Well the Italians fought hard in the drip war, and they even beat Germany. But in the end, Uncle Sam showed them who was really the boss. Just something about the us equipment and uniforms that makes me wanna run around in the woods playing dress up lol
Yeha, and that's what you base you entire judgement of the M35 off of? I'll take my actual real world ballistic test experience over an over-edited propaganda film..... come on.
As for the various helmets used in WWII, as well as those of other aspects of equipment demonstrated in your other videos, I can see that your critique is based on very well documented research! Congratulations! My hat's off to you! However, it is with no small degree of dismay and chagrin that I may assess the military value of helmets intended for use by American soldiers of today, of which, I'm far from certain. Compared to specimens from that much earlier period however, today's helmets are, in my opinion, totally useless, and indeed represent by far, the weakest point of protection for the safety of the fighting soldier, indeed concerning the most delicate and weakest part of his, (or her) body! Why is that? Why such a sub-standard, worthless and flimsy design? To not put too fine a point on it, what unscrupulous politician working out of the Pentagon is getting rich by procurement and allocation of this worthless piece of rubbish, supposedly intended to protect our soldiers in battle but the record shows that the reverse is actually taking place! Indeed, who stands to gain from this obviously contrived and not unintended oversight, when it comes to the safety of our brave, glorious and valiant men and women in the field; our National Defense at work, performing their duty in our behalf! Even considering all the other factors that go into seeing to it that our soldiers have the best safety equipment available, (and purportedly the best chances of survival), why then is it that the one most vital of all the others, namely protection for his head and neck area, completely and totally ignored? I sincerely hope that this "oversight" is soon resolved!
Not sure what you're talking about with "modern" helmets. I guess you can ask my two really good friends who were shot in their ACH and are still alive because of it. They may disagree with you about your comment, but who knows...
I voted for the M1, because I’ve felt that it was the easiest to repair/replace. Other helmets that have integrated liners and hardware if any component broke it required a quarter master to repair them. With the M1 if the liner failed just get a whole new fiberglass shell insert and it’s ready. Also felt that since it still continues to be used by some nations as their primary combat helmet, it’s a proven tried and true design that will still be in use well past its 100th birthday.
Italians were pretty pioneering in their equipment, they had a good camouflage really early on, just after WW1 if I'm right. The helmet was really good too and the steel quality is supposedly some of the best out of WW2 era helmets in general. If I had to use one of these in a combat scenario it would probably be that one. Also super comfortable, I have a Bulgarian copy and the liner is really nice. The tests you did of them both made me feel a lot better about my stupid impulse buy of a more affordable steel helmet lol.
They definately retained some of the ingenuity of their Roman ancestors.
The camo was introduced with the m29 shelter quarter/poncho, they also made uniforms from the same camo pattern during ww2, but I think this was more of a later war thing
the bulgarian m36 had a better steel quality, hands down the best helmet of ww2
I like the Dutch, Danish, and Finish 1939-40 helmets.
What is fascinating is that the FRENCH were actually the first credited with developing a cammouflage pattern, and it was BEFORE World War I ever broke out. Another thing, in the early 1900s some BRILLIANT and enterprising officer designed new green uniforms and a helmet for the French Army. Granted the helmet was some sort of pith helmet, but anyway.... Teh uniforms were VERY servicable for combat, but were REJECTED by the French Army General Staff who just LOVED those blue tunics with flamming RED trousers! ~ LOL! Ah, what COULD have been for the French !
It’s gotta be the Adrian helmet purely because of the tactical turnip
Haha yeah but that’s ww1
@@BlaZecurry It was used in ww2 as well.
@@Courmackand it wasn't even the same as the WW1 model it was an Upgraded one
Naaah dutch
Cosi Bella! I voted for the m33, as a fan of the vastly underrated Italian equipment.
Yep.
If we're talking about ww2 equipment, I don't think it's underrated, if anything it's underhated
I count myself lucky, my dad brought home a SS M35 in great shape after WW2 and years later an older cousin sent me one of the last M1s before he got his new helmet.
I chose the M35 because I'm a WW2 German reenactor and the Stahlhelm has been perfectly comfortable for me, especially my original M42 I restored. I also do WW1 German reenacting. I have never had a problem with the ventholes or really any reduced hearing that alot of people talk about with the stahlhelm. The WW1 stahlhelms do have an issue when you are prone, but the WW2 ones I never noticed an issue when going prone. Also when it comes to thickness and the steel used, I have saw stahlhelms from one manufacturer that are significantly thicker than others. The "Si66" stahlhelms seems significantly thicker than my "W66" stahlhelm.
That's because doing a weekend event isn't even close to living with them for an extended period of time.......
The vent holes are definitely a positive. Easily remedied "problem" in the winter and useful for the other 3 seasons of the year
@@MikeB128 I have worn mine at multiple events and for most of the day and I think if there were any issues with fit or comfort, it would come up. By your logic, the only helmet you can have an opinion on for comfort is the ACH.
Are you trying to say stupid shit, or is it just natural?
@@MikeB128 Do you have to be a total jagoff to everybody? Or did I catch you while you were insulting random people on BitChute ?
Several years ago , Military Trader magazine listed post auction price of Eisenhower's 4 star helmet at $55,000 . Money well spent I say.
M33 rocks! I have all 4 of these helmets, including a British Mk II Brodie, a Japanese Type 90, and a French M26. I'm actually glad that I was in the like 3% of people who voted for the M33. The M33 was a pioneer in many ways, and when I wear it, it's nice and snug. Very comfortable and I feel well covered/protected by its design. Out of all 7 of the helmets, I have to say the easiest one for me to wear is actually the SSh-40. I have a size 3 because my melon is massive, and it's very loose and comfortable, if a little heavy.
Italian M33, lightweight, comfortable, and good ballistic protection. Also looks good. I got mine from your store. Italians had the best uniforms, totally with you on that one.
Nice discussion Mike, and definitely a good followup for that poll. M35 might have the looks but I've always preferred the M1- a big part of that is having one since I was a kid, and spending a fair amount of time "heads on" with them. I had never realized the Italian design predated the others and very likely influenced them. Definitely going to keep an eye out for one now, although my big head doesn't make it easy. That's another reason why I favor the M1- the adjustability is super nice
Good points, I didn't think about a suspension system that floats the liner.
I used the M-1 while I was in the service; I don’t recall anybody having any complaints with it. I really liked it and bought mine. A really good piece of equipment; I never met anybody that was seriously injured by a penetration of the M-1. A great piece of gear. 😊
The Italian RSI uniform with telo mimetico mixed in goes HARD.
Actually, german M35 have springs inside metall rim. But in my opinion M33 best of those. Also, I had wearing my own pre-WW2 M33 in time of airraid\shelling alarms before I get cevlar one.
When I went to Basic in the mid-80's, we were issued the M1. I didn't see a PASGT until I got to my first duty station. I still have a soft spot for M1 as a result.
me too
The best for size AND USE variability is the American helmet by far. Human heads do not come in exact metric or other standardized sizes. If your head come to a 57.5 then with the M35 the Sz 58 will be loose and the 57 will give you a headache. With the US M1 thanks to the adjustment, you can also wear your field cap or wool jeep cap (Radar O'Reiley style wool hat) under the helmet on cold days.
Stahlhelm looks coolest, also the shape is good for debris and shrapnel etc. but for protection from pistol bullets or so I'd say M33 as it's a good compromise.
I worked at a Steel Mill (Sharon Steel) made steel for WW2 helmets. Still had the Range in an old building on site they used to shoot the helmets and otherwise test the steel.
I like the M 1 because of its adjustability. I have a very large head, which M 1s always fit, while few other helmets do
Mike B. I LOVE your videos! Sorry I missed the poll, and like you I really liked that Italian helmet. Here are some observations, I hope you may find interesting. Regarding the M-35 German helmet. I found that the earlier German Stalhelm of 1916 was in many ways far superior to the M-35. First the suspension was better, a simple three leaf leather pattern and leather pads were pocketed and filled with horse hair to add extra padding and separation from the wearer's skull and the helmet's top. Secondly the flanges did not come down near as far in the M-1916 as they did with the latter M-35 models. I'm not sure exactly how they fired in the prone, but even what I have mentioned so far warrants further examination.
I was in the U.S. Army during one of its great transitional periods. When I entered into service in 1983 we were still issued the M-1 Steel Pot. I was issued this helmet not only in basic training, but at my first duty station too. I did not get the (then new) PASGT helmet until my second duty station in Germany in 1985. Now we not only balked at the look of the thing (many of us felt it looked too much like a "Nazi helmet") but there were OTHER problems with it as well -- namely that the flarings that covered the ears went TOO LOW (much like the German M-35) This reduced our ability to pick up ambient sounds, and it was MUCH easier to sneak up on a G.I. wearing one of these than it was a regular steel pot. This was WHY the U.S. Military tried out the RBR F6 series of combat helmets. These were intended as a "fix" to the PASGT problem.
Now from what I understand, RBR was either a British company that had a factory in Virginia, or it was a joint Anglo-American venture. Either way, they had one plant in the U.S. (Virginia) and another in Great Britain. Thus there are TWO versions of the RBR F6. The U.S. versions looks very similar to the PASGT helmet, only the ear farings do not extend as low. I THINK this helmet was nicknamed the "SPECTRE" (but I could be mistaken) I recall either in the late 1980s or sometime in the 1990s *Soldier of Fortune* magazine ran an article about the military experimenting with the "Spectre" helmet (which again I believe was a U.S. made F6) and in that article they wrote quite a bit about the ambient sound problem being the one they were trying to fix. Even the later ACH (which I detest for purely asthetic reasons, as it simply looks "moronic" to me) was conscious of this problem and was manufactured with higher ear flarings
The BRITISH made RBR F6 looks a lot like the good old M-1 steel pot. I have both helmets and LOVE them both. EITHER one would be an improvement over the PASGT helmet in my opinion.
M1 probolody the best just because of the well adjustable liner, it's also the most stable in my experience. No experience with the Italian one
The minor difference in ballstic protection and shape will make no difference in outcome of the war or even make a meaningful difference if your chance of survival
I found SSH40's liner to be very unstable, but the shape seems good
Not WW2, but I found the East German helmet liner to be the best of the non padded system, but the shape isn't great.
Definitely one of my top ten videos on the platform. This is the reason RUclips was created. Well done, Sargent! 😀
I voted M33. It reminds me an awful lot of the Swede M37.
Which, might I remind you, is the only helmet that actually managed to shoot you back Mike.
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I voted for the Italian helmet because it's the least we'll know and I'm Italian. M33 love
Love the looks lf the GI amd Stahlhelm, but the stahlhelm design survives today, where as the others have faultered.
Out of my helmet collection, (ww2 American helmet(was actually used in ww2) a stahlhelm, and a Japanese helmet) my favorite is the stahlhelm, it’s well protected, quite snug and tough. in second has to be the American one, quite secure, comes in two pieces and also very comfortable. the Japanese does get the job done, lightweight, but the neck strap is quite confusing, and it’s not that protective unlike the American and German helmets
Actually the American one might have been used in Vietnam, but I know it’s one or the other
@@KumaFall Vietnam ones have the rim seam on the back and WW2 has it on the front. So if you look at the rim and the seam is on the back it’s WW2 in origin, they were used in the Korean War and in Vietnam as well too so it might be period to both wars.
@@celticperspective5183 I’ll just describe it. It came with a cover with text that says:
Cover helmet camouflage
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Mpls. Soc. F/t blind inc.
The inside shell is made of plastic and the strap is not made of leather but more of a…knitted strap? And a ball-connector for the strap
@@KumaFall Not really sure what that actually means I’m not well versed in US helmets and what the stamps and stuff means lol. Just look at the rim of the steel shell, you’ll see a small line where it’s been snipped to be folded over, if it’s on the front it’s WW2 and if it’s on the back it’s post war manufactured
@@celticperspective5183 yeah it’s been folded over around the rim
Only thing I dislike about the M1 is the steel pots tendency to separate from the liner. I'm sure it's a fitting or shrinkage issue but I have the problem with my 1940s dated liners, 1952 liners, vietnam liners, and 1980s liners with the pop out webbing.
Bulgarian M36 type A should get some love too. Wish I bought one when they were like $40-50 on eBay.
One thing about the M-1, with some minor adjustments the same helmet was worn by Paratroopers and tankers (steel shell when needed) all the other countries, British, Germans… etc had to develop a completely different helmet for their Paratroopers and for their tankers.
Though an impressive helmet, one great disadvantage is the same one we found in the PASGT -- loss of ambient sound -- which can beome important patrolling in the woods or clearing buildings in urban areas.
I like the vz32 i think its called. Pure simplicity
M33 is really neat
Most steel helmets were takeoffs of the WW1 American historic armor designer, Major Bashford Dean.
The Italian M33 design, Soviet M40 and US M1 helmets are all takeoffs of Major Bashord Dean's WW1 era designs.
I concour with your conclusion as I also think the Italian M33 was the overall superior of all 4 including the Stahlhelm.
The British M44 helmet design looks like an effective design. This design was also a German last WW2 era experimental helmet design.
We must remember that the defects, weaknesses of the privious Stahlhelm designs was the reason the OKW came up with the M44/45 Stahlhelm which later became the East German M56 Stahlhelm.
Also the East Germans came up with an alternative export helmet that looks very similar to the Italian M33 design.
Im pretty sure the ssh 40 was designed to fit a Ushanka under it in the wintertime, and that's why it flops around a lot when worn without it.
You're thinking of the 60 and the 68............
I love the look of the WW11 British Paratrooper helmet , so iconic with the camo jackets .... The 1976 film '' The Eagle has landed '' shows them to full effect , as the Germans use them to fool the English village folk
Yeah, appearances aren't everything. The Stahlhelm sucked for direct hits in both World Wars, but everyone jerks off over the iconic shape. War isn't a fashion contest.
@@MikeB128yeah freakin kraut fanboys are so annoying
I'll go with the m1 because I got to wear my great grandpa's when I was a kid and I have to pick the 98k as my favorite weapon for the same reason. No objectivity here.
11:40 well other than the subjective nature of style, I looked up the Italian uniforms of wwii and while better looking than the Allie’s, their combat uniforms aren’t on a par to my eye as far as cool and threatening is concerned. As far as headgear is concerned, I think the less prolific use of helmet covers (aside from the Italian paratroopers) also plays a role.
Wow so the Italians had the carcano of ww2 helmets?
Also, just picked up a Swiss ww2 era stahlhelm recently. What are your thoughts on those?
Literally did a ballistic test on one, search my channel.
Of course most people chose the M35. It just looks cool as shit, it's the most iconic. It has style, the design is gorgeous. I'm not in a war right now which is why I have an M35. -
I'm a big fan of the M1 but my favorite helmet was the WWI Adrian.
Nice breakdown. Thanks
Is that ERDL or M81 in your Backround?
Good question🤔
@@tomassiqueira5172 It's a Woobie.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 yeah, but the pattern...
@@tomassiqueira5172 It's woodland I have the same Woobie.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 ok
Im happy i share the same interest as this man
I voted for the m1 helmet.
US M1 steel helmet--one size fits all!
I voted stahlhelm, cus the tail might cover from shrapnel from mortars.
M33 rocks
Mike be question it’s stupid i know but where did you get those racks for you’re guns? reason i ask is because i’m looking for some that are wide enough for my old guns but also strong enough because i had some and they slowly bent because of the weight. thanks man
I would have guessed the M1, because the scientific design philosophy and manufacturing prowess of the US at the time.
I'm curious, how close were the post war Spanish copies of the stalhelm to the German originals.
I always figured the profile on PASGT helmet weren't based on German stahlhelms (they looked different like what the fuck) but were based on old Soviet helmets like SSh39 but you pointed out that Italian M33 helmet influenced SSh39/40 too. Pretty cool, thanks for educational video! I'm sure most people would like to hear you talk more
Just a note though on the german ballistic test you made was based on a finnish m40/55 german contract helmet and they were made out of cheaper and more brittle metal than the german wartime period ones so it's not a totally fair comparison.
Even german m40 to m35 isn't. expensive metal alloys were already being rationed by 1940
I Certainly hope to see some M33/47s (or unrealistically straight 33's) sometime on your store, they really do go pretty hard.
I've had them before many times and they sell out QUICK.
@@MikeB128 I'm happy to say I bought one from you around 2018
M-1 all day long. And, by far.
While most or all of these were made of Hadfield steel - invented by the British, I believe. Basically, the same steel as quality bicyle frame tubes. Wiki calls it Mangalloy. ALmost all of these were rated as being able to resist typical handgun caliber rounds at 50 meters. The high velocity Tokarev was an exception. The shape then becomes important to deflection of impact. Even the Romans were well aware of that and their best designs were quite round with reinforcing riveted crush ribs or embossed ribs, with very large flanges to deflect blows.
Suspension and shock absorption also plays a role in what constitutes the "best" design. The m-1 was a completely new and modern helmet, with sopfisticated suspension made for shock reduction and adjustment to fit. Both shape and shock deflection goes to the M-1.
The liner did indeed provide additional "travel" of impact and did save lives when the steel shell was penetrated by rifle bullets on several witnessed occasions. It was very flexible and tough, made of various types of resin impregnated canvas or early nylon type fabric. I disagree with the video on this.
Coverage of the M-1 was also excellent while not hindering the soldiers ability to look around in the prone position. The rear flange relief was high enough, but not so as to lose all protection integrity. The sides covered as much as the German helmet - and - could be adjusted to sit high or low to provide even more. Just looking at the two side by side does not reveal the degree of coverage of the M-1. You have to look at multiple photos of WW2 soldiers wearing both and extrapolate the coverage in a profile view. Those men who seem to have a high setting helmet either have not properly adjusted it or they may be wearing a replacement and haven't gotten around to it.. The US M-1 has a very deep dome and could comfortably ride low enough to be just as sheilding as the vaunted, but flawed German helmet.
The value of having a two part system was covered, but the ballistic benefits were under stated and in part unexpected by the Army.
From the head to the feet, US personal gear in WW2 was TopNotch, not made for parade, but for utility in the field. Both French and German civilians were reported to have commented on the very proper and correct turn out of German troops, but had disdain for American troops because they appeared to be criminals and sloppy in their battle dress. That was because American BDU's were purpose built for the task of fighting and killing - especially the parachute infantry. All other European uniforms were a version of their parade dress.
I could not point to a better boomer-waffen diatribe than this. You obviously haven't seen my ballistic tests on all of these helmets..... Another dumb "YEAH MURICA!" take.....
@@MikeB128 Mike, take a breath. I never called you out for being wrong. I just have a different opinion on the M-1, which gets my vote - which you requested. All the helmets are about equal in steel quality, but the US model has advantages based upon examination of those other types - most of which hadnt essentially changed since WW1. The US M-1 was a completely modern combat helmet for its time.
I also added some very broadly applied information on the general qualities of American equipment in WW2, and some trivia from readings of Eiropean opinions of American troops. It wasn't a rebuttal aimed at you.
I get that, but it comes across as just another typical "MURICA THE BEST" sort of thing. It's not about the fact that you disagree with me, I was commenting on the delivery. All good.
@@MikeB128 👍 nah, nothing like the 'murica" crowd. I'm actually often critical of what America has done in my name during my 67 years. Most of the overly braod content of my remarks were an acknowledgement that , just prior to WW2, the US only had 139,000 men in the army, no tanks and no modern aircraft except for the early B-17. We did have a great navy with well developed aircraft carrier doctrine. But the army was pathetic. Marshall sacked pretty much every one that was of the Old Guard.
However, once we entered the war, the US transformed into a juggernaut, with no other power on earth able to stop it - even if combined against the US. Itwasn't just about how many ships, planes and boots we could put out - it was also the fast development of technoloy right down to the buttons. helmet technology was among those thousands of different threads of research and production.
Not to put too much on Wiki, but there is a very good synopsis there that talks about the M-1 development. While it dioes not discuss comparative features with other helmets, it is interesting to see the forward thinking that sets the M-1 apart. The specific reference to the test using the .45 ACP is of note. The M-1 was a verytough item of protection, well thought out.
Cheers, and keep up the great content.
Yeah the M1 is a great design, just in my personal ballistic tests, it sucked. The Germans apparently shot one helmet out of each lot with an 8mm at 100 meters and it "didn't penetrate" which is propaganda, I assume the U.S. did something similar with the whole "It'll stop a .45" thing. If you watch that vid, it doesn't show it being shot in one frame. Then again, I question literally everything I see, but through my own testing, the only two helmets in this vid that stopped most pistol rounds effectively were the M33 and SSh-40.
Kinda/sorta WW2-ish but I'm partial to the Swiss M18
The German helmet was not the most successful in protecting the head. During the war in the USSR, tests were carried out on German helmets and it was found that they had less protection from bullets than Soviet ones. In particular, this was caused by a decrease in strength in bending zones, which had a significant area. Apparently, the Germans themselves had the same opinion, since at the end of the war they developed a new helmet, which the GDR used in the form of the M56.
Yep. I have ballistic tested both models, and the evidence supports what you said. I encourage you to check out my videos about them.
@@MikeB128 Да, я посмотрю эти видео. Я часто просматриваю обзоры ваших шлемов, чтобы определить шлемы, которые приобретаю, а также из интереса к теме. Я плохо понимаю английский язык на слух, но, к счастью, есть субтитры. К сожалению, сейчас в России небольшой выбор иностранных шлемов, а цены выросли. Я бы желал, чтобы люди коллекционировали шлемы, а не использовали на войне.
The Italian one
I wouldn't know actually
That's interesting, however it probably wasn't comfortable for you maybe because the helmet was in the wrong size?
There are different sizes of this kind of helmet. Now if I would have voted I would have voted for the German, and Italian M33 helmets to be the best at last by shape. Sure we could redesigning make liner improvements but I'm mainly talking about the shell itself.
As for the helmet shape or shell goes there's a reason why the modern helmets are shaped similar to the German one, and it has to do with the studies that they did and things flying around in the battlefield behave. The German style helmet gives the maximum protection for the best weight and visibility. The Italian helmet however did something more similar and probably was more user-friendly when it comes to certain situations where the back of the neck is more free for movement.
Personally I don't really like the M1 helmet, I think it's the most uncomfortable helmet for my experience out of the modern steel helmets I have worn so far.
Trust me, I know about helmets..... I had the right size. The M35/40/42 liners aren't great for wearing for long periods of time. If the M1 is correctly adjusted, it's actually quite nice, but most people don't know how to adjust it so it sits correctly and is comfortable.
6:15 shit I know I wasn't crazy. I was basically gaslit into thinking the ak was an stg clone
What about the Brodie?
Piece of crap, severely outdated by WW2. Just because you like the way something looks doesn't make it a good design.
Would love to see a video on the danish ww2 helmet
Yeah, if I ever get a real one, I will. They're super hard to find, and super expensive.
Adrian helmet still number one at reducing overhead blast damage Adrian helmet let's gooo
What did you do in the military? I’m a very new subscriber and haven’t come across the answer in my binge if of your content yet.
I was 11B from 2008-2012.
@@MikeB128 Sweet. I was a 13A and a 65D.
Well I picked based on aesthetics for the poll, had nothing to do with comfort or protection
And that was one of my main points. You weren't right or wrong, but it's interesting for sure.
@@MikeB128 well if you want to get ultra realism you don't get a choice you get what the your country's army issues. So I guess in ultra realism I get a M1 pot 🪖
I am the daughter of parents grew up in the greatest generation. I saw World War II through their eyes. I absolutely despise the German helmet. I think it’s ugly it doesn’t look well designed and from what you said it really wasn’t a very good helmet. It’s two connected with what the Nazis were doing in my mind. I absolutely hate it. My favorite helmet, obviously is the American M 1. I think it’s a handsome looking helmet and it’s screams America.
What about the British helmets?
They worked, good protection from directly above, but anything else isn’t as good as the other designs. Us brits switched over to a new steel helmet during the war but not everyone got one with the Brodie being most common. The Turtle helmet is quite good and is a lot more well rounded than the Brodie, probably about as good as the M1
The Stalhelm probably won because that's the shape everyone went back to when the switch over to kelvar helmets happened.
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video...
History geeks for the win!
Picklehalbe rocks best helmet ever made.
I'm surprised he doesn't have the ww2 us navy helmet
M33 rocks? Why yes it does.
How good was japans helmet
Technically there were NO M40 and M42 Stahlhelms, only modifications put into production 1940 and 1942, they were all considered M35 (besides FJ lids, etc etc).
The terms M40 and M42 were created by collectors, long after the war.. Also The Prewar German M35 was made from Molybdenum steel and the later helmets were made from Manganese Silicon Steel, because the main supply of Molybdenum came from North and South America at the time.
The steps for Heat Treatment for German Stahlhelms changed with the change of steel used to produce the newer versions of the German M35, this accounts for different ballistic test results.
The downside to the German M35 was as he said, the prone position tilt but also the fact that different shell sizes had to be made and different liner sizes to fit the different shells, whereas the M1 had basically a one size fits all shells and adjustable liners, there are exceptions to this for sizing larger heads.
Also the German M35 design required 3 split pins to attach the liner to the shell.. Which was eliminated in the post war, west German M53.
Tell me you're German, without telling me you're a Pedantic German......
@@MikeB128 What's your problem..?? I'm annoying you by pointing out facts..?? You brought up the category of Stahlhelms, if it's so boring to you then maybe don't post videos on the subject...
I mean if you want to get accurate, don't be so pedantic yourself with those tiny little specifics on a subject.
PANB 👉👌
FYI, I wasn't standing up for the Stahlhelm and I pointed out it's shortcomings.
Go on a diet, you'll live longer, sport.
Mk2 talker helmet
The US Vietnam helmet was horrible, running to the bunker it kept on jumping up and down on top of my head
Probably the way you had the liner set up. With the p64 liners the helmet wouldn’t fly off when not wearing the chinstrap. If you used the chinstrap the helmet bounce would be reduced by a bit.
Was there a different shell profile for the M1 during the Vietnam War as it appears shallower compared to The Second World War.
I don't know man, our uniforms in WW2 slapped. I'm gonna have to look into the Italian uniforms.
Well the Italians fought hard in the drip war, and they even beat Germany. But in the end, Uncle Sam showed them who was really the boss. Just something about the us equipment and uniforms that makes me wanna run around in the woods playing dress up lol
OK Zoomer......
I read where the German helmets steel was thicker then all others.
The m35 was 1.5mm thick nickel steel, the later models were 1.2mm thick.
Has anybody got a hugo boss suit for sale?
You realize they made uniforms, but didn't design them right?
Mike, you look like you were born to wear WWII USGI gear
I mean, maybe?? I doubt it though.
Everything WW2 german is 😍😍😍
Yeah, yeah.....
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28:30 minutes ruclips.net/video/1QgXuhv7-54/видео.html
Look at the target of the infantry small arms in the video above.
Yeha, and that's what you base you entire judgement of the M35 off of? I'll take my actual real world ballistic test experience over an over-edited propaganda film..... come on.
These helmets are all salets. Essentially a late 14th century design.
Guess the British helmets suck ??
Yes, they did. Also wasn't one of the four I had in the poll...
@@MikeB128 Is the Mk Iii counted in your "suck" category? Late comer to ww2 but still saw service.
As for the various helmets used in WWII, as well as those of other aspects of equipment demonstrated in your other videos, I can see that your critique is based on very well documented research! Congratulations! My hat's off to you!
However, it is with no small degree of dismay and chagrin that I may assess the military value of helmets intended for use by American soldiers of today, of which, I'm far from certain.
Compared to specimens from that much earlier period however, today's helmets are, in my opinion, totally useless, and indeed represent by far, the weakest point of protection for the safety of the fighting soldier, indeed concerning the most delicate and weakest part of his, (or her) body!
Why is that? Why such a sub-standard, worthless and flimsy design?
To not put too fine a point on it, what unscrupulous politician working out of the Pentagon is getting rich by procurement and allocation of this worthless piece of rubbish, supposedly intended to protect our soldiers in battle but the record shows that the reverse is actually taking place!
Indeed, who stands to gain from this obviously contrived and not unintended oversight, when it comes to the safety of our brave, glorious and valiant men and women in the field; our National Defense at work, performing their duty in our behalf!
Even considering all the other factors that go into seeing to it that our soldiers have the best safety equipment available, (and purportedly the best chances of survival), why then is it that the one most vital of all the others, namely protection for his head and neck area, completely and totally ignored?
I sincerely hope that this "oversight" is soon resolved!
Not sure what you're talking about with "modern" helmets. I guess you can ask my two really good friends who were shot in their ACH and are still alive because of it. They may disagree with you about your comment, but who knows...
Very, very good opservations!👍👌
I'm up about 60 bucks, aka 3 20s can I get some helmet? Two Jimmy. Good man.