United passenger’s attorney leaves airline defenseless: Judge Napolitano
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Fox News Senior Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano weighs in on the statement delivered by the attorney for United Airlines passenger Dr. David Dao.
the cops should face assault charges as well
I bet that cops mother is soo proud of her asshole son. he is a piece of shit
+Brenda Wolfe fuck cops. they need to burn
From what I'm reading, they're not even actual police. They're pretty much just security guards paid with tax payer money; they're not even allowed to carry firearms at the airport.
Brenda Wolfe, I hope you need one soon, I really do.
americans feel entitled
the old man was 69 years of age.....who treats old people this way...
Well, he's old Asian male dress in sweat pants so they miscalculate him for being an easy pray. The man is right not to give up his seat and maybe this will bring a better policy for all of us who fly next time. A applaud him for standup for his right as a paying customer.
Steel Magnolia I bet you like to watch violence movie and other human beings being abused. Don't go to church because god don't want you there.
Smith. You already know who treats old people that way. You know so just come out and say it. We all know,,,,,,,Cops.
UAL.
that ohio killer
CONCUSSION No wonder! watching the video you'd tell he was DISORIENTED on his return on plane saying "I want to go home".....that MD could have died defending a seat he PAID for🙁
so why were they trying to get him to leave? what about the meatheads who did it?
was there a little acting there at the end?
(1) Assault and Battery
(2) Excessive Force
(3) Slander - United Airlines claimed doctor is a drug addict
(4) Defamation of character - claims doctor uses drugs and has sex with minor
(5) mental anguish
(6) unjust, emotion distress
(7) ???
But this is america, scum of astrology. Even your public owned libraries don't have to service you your books that your money paid for. And furthermore, they can even call the police to have you removed and placed on a No Trespassing notice, even when you have the library as your witness to prove the library was at fault and your course of actions was not.... Isn't this nation so beautiful for spacious skies and the freedoms that are disappearing one by one. Enough to make a person want to give the allegiance to the anti-Christ; they don't even sell it anymore....
Also needs to sue Insider Edition over defamation of character
Since airlines can not guarantee a seat, passengers should only pay at the conclusion of the travel. Because, even being seated does not ensure you would travel. Passengers still have a risk of wasting time, in case they don't fly. Who should pay for the loss of time.
Why would someone pay in advance for something that is not guaranteed? When you go for shopping, do you pay for something not sure of getting for your money?
True. Airlines and lawyers seem among the few services that get paid without having to deliver.
varanid9 Doctors get paid whether they know what's wrong with you or not. They may not have any idea but they still want paid.
varanid9 ya that's fucked about lawyers. one of my teachers always joked that the best thing about lawyers is you get paid whether you win or lose
+Jim Sherlock More often than not you go to the doctor to find out what's wrong with you.
disgusted1 If the doctor doesn't know, does he still get paid?
He can sue the police as well? Great
Not only should United be sued but those officers who attacked him should face criminal prosecution.
I love this attorney, like everything he said, especially saving some seats for emergency, he is protecting passenger's right. As a frequent flyer, I hate to see airline has control to use force to passengers. I also hate other things, raise price on any opportunities they could get on any way. Wish Dao get well soon and Corboy & Demetrio continue successful.
His opening statement is cohesive, very compelling and get to the point. "May be the airline industry have to expect the unexpected but not as a passenger expense. Are we just continue being treat like cattle? Rude treatment, bully we all have ants but don't (mis)treat the people who make you become a cooperate entity like you are..." UA is over.
Dao Should Never Settle
Everyone Should Not Fly United for 2 days and just change their schedule if possible and see how they like it,
This is absolutely bad business decision making on the part of united, maybe Divided soon 😀
ARE YOU FRIGGIN' KIDDING ME???
I WILL NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER...
THIS DEMANDS A PROTEST... FOR LIFE...
Good Choice Alma Wells 😀
Alma Wells you mean, NEVER?
The only reason why this Airline is back stepping is because it's stock is dropping. Boycott this United-Continental Airlines. Stand together as United States citizens.
+Ben Swan: Wrong again.
You cannot use unreasonable force and exert psychological trauma to bully any human being in this fashion.
So if you are in my house and I tell you to leave but you refuse, I should just make you some tea and let you stay? Total BS.
Gold Winger yes if it's your home. No if you open a hotel out of it, have paid guests over, who made no trouble, and then decided to kick them out because your date came for a visit unexpectedly.
Private property is handled differently than PUBLIC and COMMERCIAL property. The man's purchased ticket gave him a right to be on that plane. If you invite someone into your home, you also have a right to revoke that invitation at your discretion. If we're talking about a TENANT, then he has a legal rental contract giving him the right to be there and you must use the courts to get him out. This is pretty consistent.
Gold Winger - The thug cops... who are not even suppose to be doing that FREE service for United Airlines...
had no business being on that plane.
Gold Winger, if your guest at your home refuses to leave...
threaten your guest with arrest.
If you threaten your guest with arrest...
and your guest still won't leave...
then you call the police
and the police will have the authority to do so.
The intelligent police officer will then tell your guest
to put his hands behind his back,
because he is being detained
and arrested for being on private property.
and lastly... Gold Winger...
Those thug cops should be arrested for...
"STEALING"
Those thug cops were being paid by the government...
to protect the American citizens.
Yet...
these thug cops...
were NOT
getting paid by United Airlines...
to provide security service for their airline.
Why are government thug cops getting paid...
to provide "FREE"
security service for United Airlines???
ARREST THE THUG COPS, CORRUPTED COP, AND CRIMINAL COPS TOO... That's what America should do...
instead...
THUG COPS RULE...
CRIMINAL COPS RULE...
and CORRUPTED COPS too...
cause that's what they Love to do...
and it's up to you...
and it's up to me...
to see justice come through...
cause that's the
right thing to do...
Yes, yes you can under certain circumstances.
United needs to pay. They are disgusting.
50 million for the doctor, 25 million for the lawyers. Settled
and 100k each to all other passesengers who had to experienced this uncomfortable incident caused by united airlines
Heyitzj0sh 25 million for the doctor and other expenses which covers medical charges,flight ticket etc.12 million for the lawyers.1k to all passengers for delay+witnessing such a horrible situation.
I will never ever fly in united airlines 😡😡😡the way they treat the human beings in the plain
Looking forward fo the result of that case. It will set a new precedent on our Judicial system and on our Constitutional Freedoms.
+Natasel Then you know what is going to happen. What we are talking about is how much, not if as the lawyer is claiming here. That's why for me is new, Cause those are thing resolved by the Bill of Rights. Have you ever heard of that?
I hope all airlines learn from this. Treat passengers as clients! I always disliked every American airline for their extreme bad service and try to avoid them as much as I can. All airlines: we pay your salaries, costs and profits! Take this in mind every second you are in contact with a passenger!
UA Employees: Together we bully, UNITED we fall.
I'm gonna be laughing out loud when United writes him a check of 2 million dollars...
I take some joy in this event (although I wish it wasnt at Dr. Dao's harm), finally United is going to get what they deserve. This airline has been garbage for decades, I have refused to fly with them since 2007.
kalbs89 I have not flown United since 1985 & I never will. They are assholes.
You have that right!!
Lana Varmatos I'm an employee and I'm coming to get you!
technologic Oh yes BTW. My brother is a Supervisor at O'Hare for United. He knows how I feel. Give me your name chicken shit
+technologic: IF YOU WERE an employee (presumably of UA) - which I seriously doubt - you could probably lose your job, and you certainly could lose some serious money, by publicly threatening another person. Seems you're a 12-year-old who thinks life is a video game. Good luck with that. (You could also, it seems, go visit Lana Varmatos for a reality check. The pain would do you a world of good.)
I really hope that Dr. Dao will not settle out of court. Don't allow these guys to not be punished for their crimes.
Dao will also be awarded more money by a jury than he will be able to get in a settlement.
In any case, it is unacceptable and immoral that paying money can replace the punishment for a CRIME.
I feel so bad for this man. wow what horrible people to do this to any human being!!
Dr David get well soon the world 🌎 is with you n yr family
United would not want to go to court for this because they know they will not find sympathy there.
Modern phones will always record whats going on. If it wasn't for the recording United would still be saying it was the doctors fault!
Forget a settlement! Let a jury have it! United, and everyone else involved, will have to pay a lot more!
UA got away so many times in the past and this could be not the first time, luckily this time they got caught. How much UA need to pay so we as fellow passenger will feel justice has been serve?
United's karmaaaaaaaaaaaaaa at its best! I bet many customers mistreated by United Airlines and their unprofessional employees have been long waiting for this moment.
he would have been an asset to that flight if an emergency had occurred to anyone.
BOYCOTT UNITED AIRLINES, ITS A SHAME.
If corporations didn't run this country this would never happen.
he deserves more than 100 mill. concussion, broken tooth,bleeding,etc. Treated like a criminal. dragged degraded in front of others . what the hell? they could have just offered another passenger $2 to $3000 to give up a seat.i will never fly on united.
UA entire chain of command unbelievably stupid! How many hundreds of dollars were they trying to save by not offering more money?? I'd NEVER fly with a company that's so stupid & mean.
When all is said and done, Dr. Dao will own half that airline.
If for example this case went to trial and I was one of the jurors, I would probably award at least $50 million in punitive damages for Dr. Dao. That's how much I, along with the majority of the public, would like to punish United Airlines for doing such an inhuman and horrific mistake.
UNITED AIRLINES, "We Put The "H" in airline fracture.
In all of my years in public safety, and that runs close to 34 years, I believe the way this passenger was dragged off the jet was wrong. You are dealing with an elderly man. The man bought a ticket and was seated in his seat waiting for take off. Had this man been causing a disturbance, yelling, screaming or otherwise bothering other passengers, the use of force is warranted. Now having said that, what amount of force? There are ways police officers can get a passenger off the plane without dragging him off like they did. Either these security police were not thinking, or more than likely, not sufficiently trained for this situation. There are more subtle ways to obtain compliance and if I were in that position as an airport officer, I would ascertain what the problem was before taking any action and if action was needed, it would not have gone down the way it did. The airlines do overbook and do have the right to force passengers off with compensation. I do not believe I or any partners I have had from '72 to '06 would have handled this situation this way unless there was violent behavior. I did not see anything like that on any video which has been shown to the public. This was overreaction on the part of the airline and certainly excessive force by the officers. Judge Napolitano is right in my opinion, this case really is indefensible. Bringing up his past regarding drugs and such has no bearing and at the time, who knew and how does that matter? I believe United Airlines is going to be writing a pretty big check and maybe even a bigger one if this goes to trial. I am close to David Dao's age and I sure as hell would not want to be treated in this manner for just sitting in my seat!
the poor guy will have to undergo reconstructive surgery, because they officially beaten not bullied. I have never ever seen or heard this and trust me I have traveled to multiple countries. I hope it goes to trial against one of the best trial lawyers in the city. I hope he rips them apart. Settling this case will mean that other people will suffer the same abuse right after they write a little cheque to quiet this. Again I pray for this to go to trial, with all the evidence they might have gathered against these traveling bullies, I hope they dismantle them
Shame on you united airlines!!
I can just see him for attempting to jeopardize his life by trying to keep him in Chicago for another night.
Perhaps the POLICE have to make the decision 'Not to act as private security for corporations"
Pretty plain (pun) that the corporations are not going to stop using the Police as free service!
I hope he gets a billion dollars! United Airlines are brutalizing their customers.. knowing the possibility of this who would relish getting on one of these flights.
The doctor family must have good income and they certainly want justice more than compensation. The lawyers definitely prefer justice together with compensation.
Don't fly United not so friendly get rid of TSA who have not stopped any terrorist attack and fatherland security
Simple solution....
When airlines oversell seats and need to be able to get passengers to give them up, just do an auction.
Offer increasing prices for seats until enough are given.
Surely before they reach $5,000 per seat they will have plenty.
And not oversell so much in future.
Wow that news anchor guys with the pink tie sounds so retro love his voice!!!
that defense attorney is a boss. notice his casual stance. holding water and slouching to the side. puts off a nice guy casual vibe. just boss MAN
America deserves a much better managed airlines.
I still have no idea why an airline can over book. 200 seat plane, sell 200 tickets. If someone doesn't turn up you still have the money.
Surely the obvious solution to this situation is for the airline to continue to up the compensation offered until somebody VOLUNTARILY gives up their seat. $1,000, $2,000 ... whatever it takes. This incident will wind up costing United millions in a settlement, hundreds of millions in bad publicity & possibly billions in stock losses.
That shows they don't care about their customers to even increase the compensation offer. People really shouldn't bother flying with them.
OMG a few millions dollars that is nothing to United Airlines. If you want the Airline to change you must sue for Billions of dollars.
If that happens you be surprised how fast United Airline will shape up.
There is a old military saying: Lack of planning on your part does not constitute crises on my part.
United lost 1.4 billion in stock after this and will settle millions
But if he was black.......
He was Asian-American. From Kentucky.
Going to trial? Where are they going to find the requisite number of jurors who haven't formed an opinion about this case?
All those involved should be charge for assault and battery.
Tickets on sale now..... But seat not guaranteed...... Good luck 👍
show no sympathy to united nor their staff.hit them so hard they close down
The only airline where a doctor boards the plane and disembarks as a patient!
Now, cops should refuse security to United Airlines.
They were not police, but CDA (Chicago Department of Aviation) security guards. CDA has agreed to remove the word "police" from clothing and resources (cars, etc.)
The guards are not trained in removing passengers.
CDA is paid out of the profits of the airport, no taxpayer money is involved.
NO settlement. jury trial and maximum financial payout to the plaintiff
It's gonna be hard to find a jury sympathetic to the airlines.
If you sitting in this airline is a crime then this airline should be close for business because it's a crime to sell the ticket to passenger to committed "crime" as they act.
Both United and city of Chicago should be on a court trial.
I really hope that the incident spirals out and the TSA will get abolished.
Somebody put glasses on that man. Thug life.
Not a few million. The other airlines will look at this to see what they can get away with. This errorline needs to pay a few hundred million.
The Judge is correct. Corboy & Demetrio is probably the best tort firm in Chicago and probably one of the best in the country.
Tom Demetrio's press conference was very impressive. I can see why they are so good.
Two things here 1. he took the offer left the plane,didn't like rebook options ran back onto plane. 2. by leaving the plane,he was no longer authorized to be on plane. A direct violation of FAA security directives.
He'll get his money, but will also be fined and most likely jailed.
The problem was not with the airline, it was with the way security handled it. If anyone thinks the airline doesn't have ways around freeing up seats for down-line deadheads, you got some surprises and delays coming. Next time they can't get anyone to volunteer to give up their seat for compensation like this, they will just deplane everyone back to departure, and select the people from there.
United Airlines left THEMSELVES defenseless.
People should get it straight that the guy who removed the doctor was NOT a policeman, even though he wore a jacket with the word "police" on the back. I just watched a RUclips video of a meeting of the Chicago City Council where a United Airlines agent explained that it was one of their private security guards who removed the passenger. The security guard wrongly wore that jacket because he was not a cop. United gave their security people money to buy security uniforms and that guard went against United's directive and bought the Police jacket. He was in civilian clothes but wearing a jacket that was inappropriate, and the passenger, who could not see the back of the jacket, had no way of knowing who the man was who was threatening to remove him. So the city of Chicago was not involved in the injustice. United simply screwed up and now will have to face the consequences. The security guard will be lucky to work at McDonald's for the foreseeable future.
This is absolutely right. No public threat by passenger just an inconvenience for United. No difference between this & the way police in DAPL protesters were treated by police in North Dakota. They are to protect the public not corporations.
At 3:00 Judge Napolitano says that it's legal to remove a troublemaker from the plane using "a reasonable amount of force". Reasonable force is not the issue; UNreasonable force is.
but refuseing a offer to sell ticket back is not grounds to be asked to leave a plane on the ground and not moving only a unruly or harmfull or life threathening passenger for the convience of the airline is not a breach of the customers obligation to travel orderly therfore no grounds to be thrown off the order has to be a lawfull command also when in flight
Wrong. The airline can legally deny you passage for almost any reason.
wrong not when u have boarded and sat in your paid for contractual seat only at the gate
the security who assaulted him better get sued too
I think he deserves over $100 mil, but will probably be awarded some lame amount like $10 mil?
As far as I am concerned, once you have been allowed to board and you are seated, if as in this case and you have done absolutely nothing wrong, then you should not have to give your seat up. This should of been done by United Airlines before anyone had boarded. It should be written in Law, that your seat is secure after they have allowed you to board.
I think I can read a crystal ball and figure the future of this event. Dao's lawyer gets 5 million. UA's lawyer gets 5 million. Mr Dao gets 50 dollars.
I found the split screen ratio annoying
It was a case of bullies out of control. On a good note, since he's got a concussion, it's good he didn't fly that day. Get well soon. Dr. Dao.
The removed passenger was offered and accepted a fee for selling back his seat to United and he reboarded and took the seat.
if United had offered something crazy like 5000 EACH for the seats they needed, they still would have saved hundreds of millions in the long run, billions even.
I want to know the names of those three vicious cops.
They were not police, but CDA (Chicago Department of Aviation) security guards. CDA has agreed to remove the word "police" from clothing and resources (cars, etc.)
Two resigned, 1 was fired. Their supervisor, who told them to do this, was placed on paid leave; I can't find any more info about what happened to him.
1 security office is suing United now, says he wasn't trained for this so not his fault.
The world is going crazy it seems. How can a commercial enterprise even consider behavior like this and hope to stay in business? It boggles the mind. They must be out of money completely. If not, why not raise the compensation until a volunteer stepped up? Some managers are going to get a pink slip now, because the company saved the dime only to pour out the dollar in an expensive settlement - and on top of that bought itself the worst possible reputation. It's crazy...
Is the cop going to be charged with assault? Because that's the root problem, he could have said no I will not forcibly remove this passenger.
Customer is never right! Good bye United airlines!
given his injuries and his age it takes him much longer to recover
He reports he used to run wo or more marathons a year, but can't do that anymore. Still has trouble with balance and walking, problems with concentration and depression.
He was on suicide watch at the hospital.
So sad.
Will be settled out of court for less than 10 million. 😜
Thomas Jones No way gets settled for less than $10 million. I say $20 million minimum. I wouldn't be surprised if the final payout is over $50 million.
Dr Dao is also a professional poker player so he knows all about leverage, momentum and stuff like that. He knows he has United by the balls. Dr Dao wants United to pay up big (to the extent that his grandchildren are set for life) or be embarrassed. United picked the wrong guy to fuck with.
xuimod If it isn't settled before it is heard before a jury. If other defendants are also sued. If a jury hands out a winner to Dao, then perhaps you could be correct. However, this is a different game than Poker with many variables that may have been overlooked. May Justice be served and the doctor recover completely. Namaste TJ. 🌅
The lawyer knows what to do! everything is ok. Dr Dao should be concerning about how many blonde mistresses hes gonna get.
I don't care how much money United Airlines pays to get out of this because I will #BoycottUnitedAirlines for ever.
Solution: Force the airlines to underbook flights for emergency situations.
Being bullies is rewarded today! If you don't believe me, ask President Bonespurs!
cnn said last night united airlines sales dropped dramatically even with cheap flights
If United overbooked it should have been United that came up with a solution to compensate the person, not beat the hell out of him.
i thought it was a bit like rosa parcs sitaution but not for civil rights but consumer rights
and levels of decency and morality the way people have rightfully lambasted a flogged united but thru the new electronic age which is global these days even millions marching does not seam to change things it would take tens of millions id say folks need to keep it up ON corporations if they are wrong create situtaions to expose them and emberass shame them create a movement the (electronic and digital consumer front)ECDF saying that our ministry of defence in england has just set up a 24hr cyber unit cos of the paranoi about russia and there cyber interferance also just been reported that our GCHQ spy agency has been spying on donald all last year
Badly reported:
1.) Boarding can be denied. Boarding. That's what your ticket says. Boarding is when they scan your ticket before you walk into the airplane. Once you're in the airplane there's nothing in law or in the ticket / contract that allows you to be unwillingly removed. Only BEFORE you enter. (True, as they said, you can be removed if you're a danger or acting illegally. Dr. Dao was peaceful; as he explained, he had patients the next day.)
*2.) They WERE NOT POLICE.* The Chicago Department of Aviation, which runs all Chicago airports, have their own SECURITY. They are untrained. The 3 security people were folliwng the directions of their supervisor. (The show did say once that these were security, but neverrtheless kept using the word "police".)
CDA has agreed to remove the word "police" from clothing, vehicles, etc.
Two of the security people resigned, 1 was fired. The supervisor was placed on paid leave. I can't find out what happened to the supervisor. One of the security guys is suing United Airlines because he was not trained for this work.
3.) Dr. Dao is Vietnamese-American. Can anyone say "racism"?
4.) This was not overbooking. United suddenly decided to add 4 employees to the airplane to go somewhere, and this was the cheapest way to send them.
The solution is simple. Airlines should be prohibited from overbooking. Second, the common carrier contract should explicit state that once a passenger had been ticketed and allowed to board, the airline has no right to remove the passenger unless he presents a clear danger to the crew or other passengers or is disruptive.
Airlines should have gone under when they allowed passengers on a no fly list to board anyway on 9/11. Remember that! We've been paying for their dereliction and incompetence ever since!
Welcome americas newest billionaire.!! Mr.Dao 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
A fair settlement amount for Dr Dao will be the equivalent of 5-year worth of total compensation of Munoz.
Gee, when the airline industry was regulated, flying was fun...
I bet the other 200 people on that flight wanted that man beaten off the flight so they can take off already.
NO SETTLEMENT go to court!!!!!! Munos resign quickly
United will just have to wing it. Cheers!
I would not blame any airline where a passenger is unruly, disruptive, causing chaos, being disrespectful, or any other obnoxious behavior, nobody would tolerate such a passenger - Entitled passengers can certainly be a nuisance. And, the airline would have good cause to remove such passenger using some reasonable force. This case with United is neither. I heard that this passenger was going to be accused of trespassing, how ridiculous is that? Businesses have the right to refuse service, there is no law that can force a company to offer services or sell something to someone they happen not to like, however, you better have a good argument for that in court.