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quran 21 30. Don’t the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together and that We separated them? And that We made all living beings from water? Won’t they believe? "After the kingship descended from heaven, the kingship was in Eridu. quran 70 4. By which the angels and the Spirit ascend to Him, on a day fifty thousand years long. us modern human start from 300000 year ago not in here but in upper heaven. just like in xianxia novel, there is a lot spiritual source there so human live 50000 years. the big flood came and earth fall again into the lower heaven when human live for 1000 years. then adam created 15000bp. then noah came n earth fall again, big flood, then abraham came 2000bc, n the destiny change human life 100 years. thats when sumerian king end. the date accumulate their kingship is right about 300000 years. no myth. its history
I never grow tired of the histories of these ancient lands. I’d love to see a video on post new kingdom Egypt, Urartu, the Medes, Lydia, and the phygrians. Especially post new kingdom Egypt.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! You're in luck, I have videos or podcasts on most of them. Here's a few: Kingdom of Urartu ruclips.net/video/z6F2ZAlVOIc/видео.html The Medes ruclips.net/video/FypaFjqMY04/видео.html Phrygians ruclips.net/video/8j3YDbXr9XU/видео.html Also, you may like this one on Cyrus the Great - deals a lot with Lydia, the Medes and of course, the early Achaemenid Empire: ruclips.net/video/wMbD7c-YlAE/видео.html If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again, stay safe!
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! Yeah, I love reading the primary sources, especially of kings when they're bragging... sounds very powerful but also a bit comedic. More to come, and looking forward to more collabs in 2021, stay safe!
Thanks so much, really appreciate it the kind words... hahaha. With regard to Ea Nasier, that's a really interesting document. I think that I could do something quick on that. I'll put it on my list. Thanks for the suggestion, stay safe!
Haha thanks! It's actually a really fun game the more you get into it, especially after you start building up your champions and playing against random people around the world, which I guess there are a lot if now not due to all these lockdowns and most people staying at home. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
One of my favorite theories for why the year list is so long is that the ancient Kings traveled with the Annunaki, and due to the properties of their space travel, the kings would only be gone, in their mind, for 10 or 20 years, but in reality, tens of thousands of years would’ve passed on earth.
This reminds me of the Arabic chronicles when they talk about Ancient Kings that ruled for hundreds of years but when they came to times that are closer to them then we can see real dates and reasonable periods of rules.
It's said (in the Babylonian standard version I think) that the gods diminished mankind with a deluge because they had become too noisy and disturbed the gods' peace. This is because they multiplied rapidly and had long ages. After the deluge we still see long reigns for kings, but they seem to decrease in time (not instantly) as we drift further from the event. Quite a smooth transition to the more sensible years of reign.
In the Bible in Genesis after the Great Flood the descendants of Shem had also declining longevity as the centuries passed by the time when Terah left Ur with his son Abraham and his wife.
Lol I love it, I need to use that line at the next conference on Mesopotamia history! Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
Awesome! As someone with familiarity on the subject of Sumerian king lists, I found this video to be a very useful supplement - and a good reminder of some of what I've forgotten - to my existing knowledge. Thank you Cy!
Haha it came up as a shard from the game. I think I know which part of the video you mean haha. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
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I love this video. I was also very surprised of the length of years described in sumerian history. and I was thinking to myself that the Bible has a similarity in this craze, though a bit more reasonnable, but everyone born before the great flood was living hundreds of years. Mathusalem being almost 1000 years old when he died. After the flood, the land was cursed, and people lived less and less (Abraham died at 180 years old, but later 120 was the limit). if people of the past thought this way, there must be something we are missing. We can't apply the logic of today to people back then. I hope this mistery will be solved one day
Yeah I also wondered the say same. Even the kings of Persian, Chinese and other epics lived for hundreds of years in the remote past. I wonder why this seems to be the case in literature. May it's true because they weren't eating diets high in saturated fats or fast food? Haha but seriously, it's interesting that such long lifespans appear so frequently in epics and other literature. As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
I’ve heard that in the case of the Bible that ages in some books were inflated to make the characters appear particularly wise and experienced beyond what is apparently possible. After all, your grandparents are probably the wisest people you know and they could be 60 or 70, so a 150 year old must be twice as wise. It’s almost a shorthand for “respect this character”. Also, it’s common in mythology to have a “before” time when things were different, and a “present day” which is how the world is now. To the early Jewish people’s, in the time before the flood, people lived longer than they did in the present. BThe Bible makes reference to this idea, something like “the longer one lives the more wise they become”. I believe this idea extends to a lot of ancient mythological literature.
I came to comment something on a similar note. Our refusal to believe the possible of beings living longer than we might think possible could be our problem. There are many many stories of people or beings living for huge spans of times from every corner of the world. Maybe they did live that long somehow.
Hey Cy! Big fan of your work, and great video. A Shame we don't have a king list for the smaller city states such as Lagash and Umma, but I can only lament. Also, would it be possible to have a video on Urukagina of Lagash; who supposedly was the very first reformer and maker of laws? I find the fragments of his edicts and his life fascinating, and I hope within the mounds of Telloh there lies his code.
Hey, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Actually there are some smaller king lists that have been found... a different one from Larsa with just the Amorite dynasty, I think there is one just for Mari and Eshnunna as well. I like the idea of Urukagina... I'll put it on the list and maybe I can do a short one on him. Thanks so much for the feedback and the suggestion, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
0:22 ... :) funny :) nice touch; love the content on your channel, thank you for sharing and keep up the good work; cheers! happy new year, and be safe
Sup dude. Been away for a few months and Ive missed several of your videos. But Im back and binging today! Thanks as always. And I want to request, again, a video of who the city patron god was and what was the name of their temple. Such as Marduk in Babylon and the Etemenanki. No biggie. Just throwing out ideas. Thank you Cy.
I've noticed that in a lot of Sumerian texts, there is a lot of repetition. Not just in the king list, but in literary pieces, such as The Descent of Inanna. Are there any guesses as to why they conveyed information in that way?
I wonder if since both days and years are cycles defined by the sun, if its possible the same word might have been used for both and if perhaps these unrealistically long reigns make more sense if measured in days, rather than years. 108,000 days is just under 300 years, which is more plausible for a long-reigning dynasty. Perhaps it was only later that separate words developed for long (year) and short (day) solar cycles and by the time writing became more common, they were conflated for the older stories?
That's an interesting take on it...I personally don't know, but I something also think if something was lost in translation or maybe there was just some assumed understanding in those days that is not conveyed in the text. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Love your videos and this one is no exception! Thank you! If no one has told you before, your recording volume is pretty loud. Turning it down a bit will help it sound cleaner too as it won't peak so often.
Hi, thanks so much for the really constructive feedback, I really appreciate it as it helps me to make these better for you all. Yeah, sound has generally been a weakness of mine. In the past I began turning it up because I received complaints from several people that it wasn't loud enough, especially for devices like tablets and phones, so I starting ramping up the sound. But I guess it also comes with the problem of at times being too loud. I'll do my best to find a happy medium but thanks for bringing this to my attention. If you see (rather, hear) problems in future videos, please don't hesitate to let me know. It'll really help as I try to find the best sound level for the most people. Thanks again, stay safe!
Thanks man, really appreciate the feedback! Haha we were talking about learning languages... Sumerian is neither Indo-European or Semitic. In fact, it's an isolate which makes them all the more interesting. Anyway, more to come, stay safe!
Haha yeah this one is actually fun...and addictive! It's cool though to play against other teams around the world. As akways, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
i found the list on Wikipedia. it even included Akkadian emperors, who have their own list. i found it when attempting a image file of Iraqi leaders from the Sumerians to Saddam Hussein and current president of Iraq. as well as the Abbasid caliphs who founded Baghdad, Iraq's current capital. it was a buffer between Persia and the Ottoman empire until it was conquered by Suliman the Magnificent in 1534.
And then kingship descended to Baghdad... ... and then the Army of the Mongols razed Baghdad... Kings come and go but Baghdad has been quite stable as capital for many centuries. In any case I congratulate you for your emulation of ancient Sumerian scribes.
I have noticed that the Ur-Nammu code of law, which was written more or less 50 years after the biblical flood by Ur Nammu or his son Shulgi is way more advanced than Hammurabi's code, and also very similar to the Torah's parasha "Mishpatim". My theory which is more my fantasy is that Ur Nammu was Noah, Shulgi was Sem and as the Bible says they knew the Torah, their code of law reflects it. In hebrew Ir means town, and if we twist it a little Ur Nammu could be Town of Noah. It's just a fantasy, maybe to good to be true, but the similarity between Mishpatim in the torah and Ur Nammu's code of law is real.
@@elliegotfredson3712 well if we take the bible seriously, there are a lot of history to learn, and its not necessarily less reliable than other sources
Could it be that “years” we’re not really a measure of time, but a measure economic gain per standard length of time (kind of like GDP?). For example: in the first year of the city being defined, that would be defined as one year, but if in the next calendar year the city had a GDP that was double, then that calendar year was measured as two “years” in the history books? I’m sure something got lost in translation. Either that or maybe replace GDP in my example with some other factor like population change per year or territory gained per year. Either way it’s still possible for the standard “year” to be changed as the historians of the time would have re-standardized according to new data. Kind of like inflation gets recalibrated every few dozen years to be based on an arbitrary year some time after the previous time used in calibration
That's what I usually think too. Maybe not GPD, but with language evolution like: if the word for a day is something that could translate as "a whole cycle" but that the "whole cycle" used to be a night and day, and became later a lunar cycle and even later a year. The lunar months could be a realistic base since Etana's reign would be about 53 years. But without another tablet explaining what was a "year" in the early day of writing, we probably won't know.
@Sarah Asaad If that were true for all kings on those lists, then the consistency would be lost and you'd have most later kings reigning for a few weeks or something
@@Shenron67 You are right, all of those early years are multiplied by 100, that should either be something meaningful to them or a change in their language or mathematics that the next generations were not aware of.
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Haha yeah it was fun to make that promo... got to experiment with a green screen for the first time so that cool. Anyway muito obrigado cara, e boa sorte pra vc tambem! espero que vc esteja muito bem e boa saude! Mais programas no futuro, Mais programas no futuro, fique atento! Haha I love speaking/writing in Portuguese... hopefully I still got it!
Haha, thanks! Yeah, I made some cameos in other videos like the one on Ancient Assyria and Israel and the Cyrus the Great videos. I love the story of Gilgamesh too... I'm going to do a podcast on the Epic of Gilgamesh sometime soon, hopefully in January or Feb. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
I suspect the oral traditions DID suggest these absurd timelines but I think the reason was to cement the early kings as deities. Nothing says "God king" like an inhumanly long reign. Though it's a little odd that such ancient people even had the concept of 10's of thousands of years when according to our version of history they would've been a bunch of rock smashers at the time.
While the long lifespans seem extremely unlikely and I am skeptical to say the least, always remember that history is littered with locations, events and people that were once considered to be just part of fanciful stories and lore and we have since found out otherwise. In my opinion it is a little arrogant to dismiss out of hand what we can in no way actually prove or disprove and besides what fun is life without the possibility,however remote, of things that are beyond our reason and comprehension
it may be possible the dates and numbers are correct. the bible also has similar years. its may don't record everyone, but people live almost a 1,000 years old. before the flood. after that for the next 500 years, they live 400 down to 200 years old. Moses live 120 years old. in the year 1951 bc. the flood took place about 2400 bc.
If you read Elena Danaan's book The Seeders, released Sept 21, 2022, you will realize that these kings were Galactic Off-Worlders who were immortal and that they could indeed rule for as many years as is translated. Immortality amongst the Galactic Off-worlders is normal. If you want the whole story of Elena Danaan, she has written about Benevolent as well as Malevolent Off-worlders in three books. 1. A Gift from the Stars, 2020, 2. We Will Never Let You Down, 2021, and then 3. The Seeders, 2022. All with amazing drawings of what the Off-Worlders look like. Remember, it's easier to think outside the box when you realize that There IS NO Box!
Thanks, really appreciate it! Yeah 10-12 minutes seems to be the sweet spot on these videos with regard to viewer retention. All the best for 2021, stay safe!
I would like to modestly add my (2-cents). Having studied the NearEastDocuments(CuneiformTablets) since 1990, I conclude, along with a few others who choose to specialize in Greater Mesopotamia--that there is more to the story... . But to understand it one needs to open our minds to a wider understanding. From Jefferson's time to 1969 was a very short span in A Long Count [of our own SolarSystem]. Any Beings who evolved on another planet -- some mere million years prior inside our own System can do miraculous things. Just as Lincoln or Kennedy vs Jefferson and Franklin. Or Columbus did vs our Homo erectus who (miraculously) escaped Mother Africa via the route through Kenya. Why can not then, Kings of Olden pre-Diluvial times have live on partial Nibiruan time: 3600-earth years = 1-Anunnaki year. This will explain the LongReignOfThatOldenKing'sList. Just say'n. meanwhile, Have a nice day.
Wonderful Cy, how long do you practice those tongue twisters. Although ancient Egypt dominates the popular imagination, wouldn't you agree ancient Sumeria was the more significant in contribution?
Haha my pronunciation in the beginning was horrendous, but slowly I practiced a bit using lectures that I found and got used to saying certain combinations of syllables and it started to get easier with time. Hmm, with regard to contributions, I think they both made many but at different times. Sumerians have some of the first known contributions and innovations, like large-scale farming, irrigation, the first real cities and writing, though I think because Egypt has been in the popular imagination longer because we knew about its history much earlier, plus western civilization has been in contact with it much longer - from the days of the Alexander to throughout the Roman/Byzantine Empires, it's been closely linked to the west, whereas the world of Mesopotamia became more detached from western civilization. Not only this, but Egypt's great monuments such as the pyramids, sphinx, its great temples, the valley of the kings and the like have stood the test of time much better than structures in Mesopotamia. This is just my opinion, but its an interesting subject to delve further into. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
Seriously if you look at the numbers of years the kings ruled as the number of citizens they ruled over instead of some of the kings it then seems possible the number of years. Maybe it was a census of the people at one time before instead of how long they reigned for.
Gilgamesh ruled after the great flood, as he traveled to Noah to receive wisdom from him. The great flood happened in 2250BC and is refered to by science (unknowingly) as the 4.2kiloyear event.
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6:17 I don’t believe that it was a mistake. It may have been one of their gods. The Fermi paradox suggests that we have had no interaction with alien life, however most ancient texts suggested people at one time lived amongst their gods, many wrote of sky people, had in-depth knowledge of things that they could not possibly know, and lived for hundreds to thousands of years. There are also some sculptures of those ancient Sumerian kings and they do not look completely human.
The Gutians interlude seems confusing -- "they had no kings, but here are the kings", "who is king? who is not king", "a time of great instability" -- only because translators assume that the names in that period must be *hereditary* monarchs with lifetime reigns, and bend over backwards to fit the translation to that assumption. But it all makes perfect sense if one assumes that the Gutians instead had non-hereditary rulers who were elected for a a three-year mandate, and occasionally re-elected one or two times. Note that almost all their "reigns" last a multiple of 3 years (3, 6, or 9). The exceptions may be chiefs who died or were "impeached" halfway through their mandate. The "20 kings in 90 years" is then not a sign of turmoil (which would have lasted 90 years -- really?) but rather of a remarkably stable regime. Perhaps the earliest recorded democracy ...
I have believed for a long time that Years in the bible and Years on the Kings list just means Lunar Cycles (so divide the number by 12). That explains most everything. The part of the kings list that says 36,000 years can not be explained (I thought it might be the length of that dynasty but even that is far fetched).
Great video Cy, keep the Sumerian stuff coming. I have been researching from 3000 BC to 2800 BC for the last two years for my FB page "Time Shadow History" and Sumerian stuff is really scarce.
It could be the blood line of every king with the pre flood era hence the long reign.. perhaps the ancient assumed their forefathers name in pre flood times.
Yeah that's possible. I think that there is something lost in the translation that has made us miss something. Or, they just had healthy diets (no fast food) and exercised, causing them to live so long! Haha as always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
The years of kingdom reign similar to the ages in genesis are numerology codes. Add them together and reduce to the lowest single digit to find the hidden meaning.
Just had a thought but what if these king lists are referring to dynasties rather than kings? I mean probably not, but it would make a lot of sense if they were.
Hi my friend, thanks so much for stopping by. It's quite possible. I personally think that there is something lost in the translation or something else missing as to how/why they calculated such long reigns for them. It's an interesting, mysterious subject indeed. Anyway, thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate your comments. A lot more on this and the history of ancient Assyria to come as well, stay tuned and safe!
@@HistorywithCy Hi, friend! Thanks for the response. I agree that something is getting lost in translation. Excellent! I’m looking forward to more of your videos :)
Pretty sure the list is split between kings that ruled before the flood who are the ones with really long lives and those kings that came after the flood who lived long lives but not to the extent of the first kings.
They were not ruling for tens of thousands of years, those are days represented by the shar. The ancients did not count by years but by days and lunar cycles.
u know, if u travel fast enough in outer space time slows down.. so traveling 1year in lightspeed is probably 100years on earth.. something like that ish.. so if their kings was ancient astronauts it explains the long reign as kings
@@theloner6063 looks like the place is a melting pot, being at the crossroads of east and west. Cannanites and Philistinians were half Greek, ancient Iranian and also Egyptian mixed in. Then the people from Sumeria came and mixed until the Israelites rose up and tried to break away from Baal worship.
in the ancient days there was no concept of a year they counted seasons or sun & moon rising & setting. for example somebody 25000 years that means 25000 days or 69 years
Dude you read it wrong. The reason for the longevity was the mantle is an object. It was a time keeping device of some sort, Likely water clock of some sort. The Bas Reliefs show the maintenance of the mantle of kingship. Once you understand that, then the times are the length of time stability in trade and leadership. The mantle of kingship stayed under a god king and his direct descendants. Which is why it was long periods of time. As the family lines started to blur, wars over the mantle were frequent. Why? Trade and science related. If you had the mantle, you were the main trade center. Which the mantle was important, until it was broken apart, reproduced. Also gods when a population is small are easier to control and perpetuate. As populations grow, so does some common sense. So people knew humans don’t live hundreds of years, but prophets and martyrs do and they do today too. Lol anyhow. Good segment.
I think these long reigns were not due a translation error,they were made like this. We know by archaeology that early dynasty rulers were divinized after death. They are sort like like Hindu Yuga Cycle with the impossible long timeline.
Why dont you use their calendar instead of the one we use to measure time. Just like they wouldn't know what a foot or a meter is. We should assume their word for year does not equal the exact amount of time as our year. Examples being : Did they have a leap year back then?
Jesus has been reigning for two thousand years, according to belief, so why could the Sumerian Kings live longer? the king list did not say live for x years it said reigned for x years And if while the skull was kept alive who was to say it was dead except the priest?
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quran 21
30. Don’t the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together and that We separated them? And that We made all living beings from water? Won’t they believe?
"After the kingship descended from heaven, the kingship was in Eridu.
quran 70
4. By which the angels and the Spirit ascend to Him, on a day fifty thousand years long.
us modern human start from 300000 year ago not in here but in upper heaven. just like in xianxia novel, there is a lot spiritual source there so human live 50000 years. the big flood came and earth fall again into the lower heaven when human live for 1000 years. then adam created 15000bp. then noah came n earth fall again, big flood, then abraham came 2000bc, n the destiny change human life 100 years. thats when sumerian king end. the date accumulate their kingship is right about 300000 years. no myth. its history
I never grow tired of the histories of these ancient lands. I’d love to see a video on post new kingdom Egypt, Urartu, the Medes, Lydia, and the phygrians. Especially post new kingdom Egypt.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! You're in luck, I have videos or podcasts on most of them. Here's a few:
Kingdom of Urartu
ruclips.net/video/z6F2ZAlVOIc/видео.html
The Medes
ruclips.net/video/FypaFjqMY04/видео.html
Phrygians
ruclips.net/video/8j3YDbXr9XU/видео.html
Also, you may like this one on Cyrus the Great - deals a lot with Lydia, the Medes and of course, the early Achaemenid Empire:
ruclips.net/video/wMbD7c-YlAE/видео.html
If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again, stay safe!
Your reading of the original text makes this really epic, CY! Awesome representation of ancient history.
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! Yeah, I love reading the primary sources, especially of kings when they're bragging... sounds very powerful but also a bit comedic. More to come, and looking forward to more collabs in 2021, stay safe!
Was waiting for you to cover the king list!
Your wish is my command! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
and the kingship was taken to RUclips.
In RUclips, History with Cy became king. May his rule be long and prosperous.
P.S. can you do a video describing the possible context of the Ea Nasir complaint tablet? Many thanks for the videos!
Thanks so much, really appreciate it the kind words... hahaha. With regard to Ea Nasier, that's a really interesting document. I think that I could do something quick on that. I'll put it on my list. Thanks for the suggestion, stay safe!
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Haha thanks! It's actually a really fun game the more you get into it, especially after you start building up your champions and playing against random people around the world, which I guess there are a lot if now not due to all these lockdowns and most people staying at home. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
One of my favorite theories for why the year list is so long is that the ancient Kings traveled with the Annunaki, and due to the properties of their space travel, the kings would only be gone, in their mind, for 10 or 20 years, but in reality, tens of thousands of years would’ve passed on earth.
This reminds me of the Arabic chronicles when they talk about Ancient Kings that ruled for hundreds of years but when they came to times that are closer to them then we can see real dates and reasonable periods of rules.
It's said (in the Babylonian standard version I think) that the gods diminished mankind with a deluge because they had become too noisy and disturbed the gods' peace. This is because they multiplied rapidly and had long ages. After the deluge we still see long reigns for kings, but they seem to decrease in time (not instantly) as we drift further from the event. Quite a smooth transition to the more sensible years of reign.
In the Bible in Genesis after the Great Flood the descendants of Shem had also declining longevity as the centuries passed by the time when Terah left Ur with his son Abraham and his wife.
The last time I was this early, Alulim was still a young king of 4000 years!
Lol that is early indeed!! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy stay safe yourself my dude
Not bad. Not bad
5:24 The scribe was really eager to show off this new thing he just heard about called 'summation'.
Lol I love it, I need to use that line at the next conference on Mesopotamia history! Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
Awesome! As someone with familiarity on the subject of Sumerian king lists, I found this video to be a very useful supplement - and a good reminder of some of what I've forgotten - to my existing knowledge. Thank you Cy!
I was in the Ashmolean Museum today staring at the Weld-Blundell Prism. Listening to your commentary about the SKL makes the experience truly epic.
Man, seriously, your work is simply amazing. Keep it up
Thanks my friend, really glad that you found this useful. More on ancient Mesopotamia to come, stay safe!
@1:10, nearly 5000 year old sarcasm. That was hilarious!
are you sure you got that time stamp right?
Haha it came up as a shard from the game. I think I know which part of the video you mean haha. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Yeah, no doubt "Who was not king" at time 11:10
@@bredmond812 yeah that's the part I thought was being referenced lol...
@@bredmond812 no, but I was way too stoned to try and change it
This show is my time machine. Thanks for your hard work Cy.
13:23 Ikukum-la-qaba.....Now, that's a name...
Haha yeah, really rolls off the tongue. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
This was a fun intro :D Thanks for the cool and fact-packed video again!!
Yeah the company was really cool and gave me a lot of freedom with the how I could do the promo...was fun! Glad that you liked the video too. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
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Thanks my friend, glad to be here. More to come, no plans of stopping, stay safe my friend!
I love this video. I was also very surprised of the length of years described in sumerian history. and I was thinking to myself that the Bible has a similarity in this craze, though a bit more reasonnable, but everyone born before the great flood was living hundreds of years. Mathusalem being almost 1000 years old when he died. After the flood, the land was cursed, and people lived less and less (Abraham died at 180 years old, but later 120 was the limit). if people of the past thought this way, there must be something we are missing. We can't apply the logic of today to people back then. I hope this mistery will be solved one day
Yeah I also wondered the say same. Even the kings of Persian, Chinese and other epics lived for hundreds of years in the remote past. I wonder why this seems to be the case in literature. May it's true because they weren't eating diets high in saturated fats or fast food? Haha but seriously, it's interesting that such long lifespans appear so frequently in epics and other literature. As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
I’ve heard that in the case of the Bible that ages in some books were inflated to make the characters appear particularly wise and experienced beyond what is apparently possible. After all, your grandparents are probably the wisest people you know and they could be 60 or 70, so a 150 year old must be twice as wise. It’s almost a shorthand for “respect this character”. Also, it’s common in mythology to have a “before” time when things were different, and a “present day” which is how the world is now. To the early Jewish people’s, in the time before the flood, people lived longer than they did in the present. BThe Bible makes reference to this idea, something like “the longer one lives the more wise they become”. I believe this idea extends to a lot of ancient mythological literature.
They were semigods
I came to comment something on a similar note. Our refusal to believe the possible of beings living longer than we might think possible could be our problem.
There are many many stories of people or beings living for huge spans of times from every corner of the world.
Maybe they did live that long somehow.
@@Velldog yes maybe! The bible says that after, 120 is the limit. If some people claims to live longer than this, it's hard to verify
Hey Cy! Big fan of your work, and great video. A Shame we don't have a king list for the smaller city states such as Lagash and Umma, but I can only lament. Also, would it be possible to have a video on Urukagina of Lagash; who supposedly was the very first reformer and maker of laws? I find the fragments of his edicts and his life fascinating, and I hope within the mounds of Telloh there lies his code.
Hey, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Actually there are some smaller king lists that have been found... a different one from Larsa with just the Amorite dynasty, I think there is one just for Mari and Eshnunna as well. I like the idea of Urukagina... I'll put it on the list and maybe I can do a short one on him. Thanks so much for the feedback and the suggestion, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Blessed be Assyria the work of my hands Isaiah 19:25
I absolutely love your videos man.
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This channel is wonderful and distinctive and contains very simple historical information
0:22 ... :) funny :) nice touch; love the content on your channel, thank you for sharing and keep up the good work; cheers! happy new year, and be safe
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Sup dude. Been away for a few months and Ive missed several of your videos. But Im back and binging today! Thanks as always. And I want to request, again, a video of who the city patron god was and what was the name of their temple. Such as Marduk in Babylon and the Etemenanki. No biggie. Just throwing out ideas. Thank you Cy.
Another great video!
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I've noticed that in a lot of Sumerian texts, there is a lot of repetition. Not just in the king list, but in literary pieces, such as The Descent of Inanna. Are there any guesses as to why they conveyed information in that way?
To emphasise something important usually, sometimes puns are included that only make sense I'm Sumerian
Also for plurals the word was often just repeated e.g. 𒁉 𒅘𒅘𒂊 𒀀 𒁀𒅘𒅘
kaš naĝ-naĝ-e a ba-naĝ-naĝ
He who drinks beer drinks water.
I wonder if since both days and years are cycles defined by the sun, if its possible the same word might have been used for both and if perhaps these unrealistically long reigns make more sense if measured in days, rather than years. 108,000 days is just under 300 years, which is more plausible for a long-reigning dynasty. Perhaps it was only later that separate words developed for long (year) and short (day) solar cycles and by the time writing became more common, they were conflated for the older stories?
That's an interesting take on it...I personally don't know, but I something also think if something was lost in translation or maybe there was just some assumed understanding in those days that is not conveyed in the text. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I feel like divide the reigns by 60 makes sense for some reason
Excellent Cy! Good history
Love your videos and this one is no exception! Thank you! If no one has told you before, your recording volume is pretty loud. Turning it down a bit will help it sound cleaner too as it won't peak so often.
Hi, thanks so much for the really constructive feedback, I really appreciate it as it helps me to make these better for you all. Yeah, sound has generally been a weakness of mine. In the past I began turning it up because I received complaints from several people that it wasn't loud enough, especially for devices like tablets and phones, so I starting ramping up the sound. But I guess it also comes with the problem of at times being too loud. I'll do my best to find a happy medium but thanks for bringing this to my attention. If you see (rather, hear) problems in future videos, please don't hesitate to let me know. It'll really help as I try to find the best sound level for the most people. Thanks again, stay safe!
Extremely helpful with my research in aproject I am setting up, beginning with a timeline starting with the Sumarian cultures.
nice ,very informative and researched
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They tried to turn it into movies on TV and that's what threw a lot through a lot of us off
Nice! You are very good at delivering substance with lightness and humour in your narrative... Keep it up!👍😎
Thanks man, really appreciate the feedback! Haha we were talking about learning languages... Sumerian is neither Indo-European or Semitic. In fact, it's an isolate which makes them all the more interesting. Anyway, more to come, stay safe!
"We had a lot kings huh... Someone should make a list of that."
Thanks for another great video Cy.
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it! More to come, stay safe!
Isn't it possible that each name identifies a dynasty rather than individual (the time frames would still be massive obviously)?
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i found the list on Wikipedia. it even included Akkadian emperors, who have their own list. i found it when attempting a image file of Iraqi leaders from the Sumerians to Saddam Hussein and current president of Iraq. as well as the Abbasid caliphs who founded Baghdad, Iraq's current capital. it was a buffer between Persia and the Ottoman empire until it was conquered by Suliman the Magnificent in 1534.
And then kingship descended to Baghdad...
... and then the Army of the Mongols razed Baghdad...
Kings come and go but Baghdad has been quite stable as capital for many centuries. In any case I congratulate you for your emulation of ancient Sumerian scribes.
👍 good video
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I have noticed that the Ur-Nammu code of law, which was written more or less 50 years after the biblical flood by Ur Nammu or his son Shulgi is way more advanced than Hammurabi's code, and also very similar to the Torah's parasha "Mishpatim". My theory which is more my fantasy is that Ur Nammu was Noah, Shulgi was Sem and as the Bible says they knew the Torah, their code of law reflects it. In hebrew Ir means town, and if we twist it a little Ur Nammu could be Town of Noah. It's just a fantasy, maybe to good to be true, but the similarity between Mishpatim in the torah and Ur Nammu's code of law is real.
Very interesting! Fantasy or flash of insight?
Prophet Noah lived millions of years ago buddy.
@@elliegotfredson3712 well if we take the bible seriously, there are a lot of history to learn, and its not necessarily less reliable than other sources
@@JulienCohenMusic I agree but I'm no expert - read OT 4 times just cuz its REALLY interesting.
@@JulienCohenMusic That comment by the King of Ebla is quite intriguing, too. He must be getting his stuff from the Akashic Records.
Could it be that “years” we’re not really a measure of time, but a measure economic gain per standard length of time (kind of like GDP?). For example: in the first year of the city being defined, that would be defined as one year, but if in the next calendar year the city had a GDP that was double, then that calendar year was measured as two “years” in the history books? I’m sure something got lost in translation.
Either that or maybe replace GDP in my example with some other factor like population change per year or territory gained per year. Either way it’s still possible for the standard “year” to be changed as the historians of the time would have re-standardized according to new data. Kind of like inflation gets recalibrated every few dozen years to be based on an arbitrary year some time after the previous time used in calibration
My guess is that they revered their ancestors and just tried to give them divine status, to enhance their own claim to power.
That's what I usually think too. Maybe not GPD, but with language evolution like:
if the word for a day is something that could translate as "a whole cycle"
but that the "whole cycle" used to be a night and day, and became later a lunar cycle and even later a year.
The lunar months could be a realistic base since Etana's reign would be about 53 years.
But without another tablet explaining what was a "year" in the early day of writing, we probably won't know.
@Sarah Asaad If that were true for all kings on those lists, then the consistency would be lost and you'd have most later kings reigning for a few weeks or something
Why would one think that anyone from outside the planet/solar system would have a earthly human life span?
@@Shenron67 You are right, all of those early years are multiplied by 100, that should either be something meaningful to them or a change in their language or mathematics that the next generations were not aware of.
I love your videos thank you for making this video my friend
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Enjoy and share your videos. Very interesting👍🌻
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It's very interesting learning this time line with all the different peoples invoved.
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Just because you cant imagine something happening doesnt mean its a myth
I see a similarity to the Old Testament begetters, like Methuselah who lived almost a thousand years etc ...
Read The Lost Book of Enki
Why did all the early kings rule for a whole number multiple of 7200 years? Any significance to this common factor?
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@@HistorywithCy don't worry, you speak as one of us ahahahh
This honestly reminds me a lot in its style, contents, and overall goal to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle
Now i finally know what u look like. and also Gilgamesh is my favorite hero too :)
Haha, thanks! Yeah, I made some cameos in other videos like the one on Ancient Assyria and Israel and the Cyrus the Great videos. I love the story of Gilgamesh too... I'm going to do a podcast on the Epic of Gilgamesh sometime soon, hopefully in January or Feb. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
I suspect the oral traditions DID suggest these absurd timelines but I think the reason was to cement the early kings as deities. Nothing says "God king" like an inhumanly long reign. Though it's a little odd that such ancient people even had the concept of 10's of thousands of years when according to our version of history they would've been a bunch of rock smashers at the time.
Read The Lost Book of Enki. There you will find answers...
While the long lifespans seem extremely unlikely and I am skeptical to say the least, always remember that history is littered with locations, events and people that were once considered to be just part of fanciful stories and lore and we have since found out otherwise. In my opinion it is a little arrogant to dismiss out of hand what we can in no way actually prove or disprove and besides what fun is life without the possibility,however remote, of things that are beyond our reason and comprehension
it may be possible the dates and numbers are correct. the bible also has similar years. its may don't record everyone, but people live almost a 1,000 years old. before the flood. after that for the next 500 years, they live 400 down to 200 years old. Moses live 120 years old. in the year 1951 bc. the flood took place about 2400 bc.
If you read Elena Danaan's book The Seeders, released Sept 21, 2022, you will realize that these kings were Galactic Off-Worlders who were immortal and that they could indeed rule for as many years as is translated. Immortality amongst the Galactic Off-worlders is normal. If you want the whole story of Elena Danaan, she has written about Benevolent as well as Malevolent Off-worlders in three books. 1. A Gift from the Stars, 2020, 2. We Will Never Let You Down, 2021, and then 3. The Seeders, 2022. All with amazing drawings of what the Off-Worlders look like. Remember, it's easier to think outside the box when you realize that There IS NO Box!
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Thanks, really appreciate it! Yeah 10-12 minutes seems to be the sweet spot on these videos with regard to viewer retention. All the best for 2021, stay safe!
This video wasagreat and made the Sumerian real for me, rather than a vague concept.
Thanks, that's kind of what I was going for haha...glad you liked it! More on Sumer to come in 2021, stay tuned and safe!
@@HistorywithCy ä
I would like to modestly add my (2-cents). Having studied the NearEastDocuments(CuneiformTablets) since 1990, I conclude, along with a few others who choose to specialize in Greater Mesopotamia--that there is more to the story... . But to understand it one needs to open our minds to a wider understanding. From Jefferson's time to 1969 was a very short span in A Long Count [of our own SolarSystem]. Any Beings who evolved on another planet -- some mere million years prior inside our own System can do miraculous things. Just as Lincoln or Kennedy vs Jefferson and Franklin. Or Columbus did vs our Homo erectus who (miraculously) escaped Mother Africa via the route through Kenya. Why can not then, Kings of Olden pre-Diluvial times have live on partial Nibiruan time: 3600-earth years = 1-Anunnaki year. This will explain the LongReignOfThatOldenKing'sList. Just say'n. meanwhile, Have a nice day.
Whether it was 900 yrs or 200 yrs the fact is they ruled extremely long making them not humans
The later kings were Demi gods that would explain the shorter reigns. I wonder if those were lifespans.
Wonderful Cy, how long do you practice those tongue twisters. Although ancient Egypt dominates the popular imagination, wouldn't you agree ancient Sumeria was the more significant in contribution?
Haha my pronunciation in the beginning was horrendous, but slowly I practiced a bit using lectures that I found and got used to saying certain combinations of syllables and it started to get easier with time. Hmm, with regard to contributions, I think they both made many but at different times. Sumerians have some of the first known contributions and innovations, like large-scale farming, irrigation, the first real cities and writing, though I think because Egypt has been in the popular imagination longer because we knew about its history much earlier, plus western civilization has been in contact with it much longer - from the days of the Alexander to throughout the Roman/Byzantine Empires, it's been closely linked to the west, whereas the world of Mesopotamia became more detached from western civilization. Not only this, but Egypt's great monuments such as the pyramids, sphinx, its great temples, the valley of the kings and the like have stood the test of time much better than structures in Mesopotamia. This is just my opinion, but its an interesting subject to delve further into. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
Seriously if you look at the numbers of years the kings ruled as the number of citizens they ruled over instead of some of the kings it then seems possible the number of years. Maybe it was a census of the people at one time before instead of how long they reigned for.
Gilgamesh ruled after the great flood, as he traveled to Noah to receive wisdom from him. The great flood happened in 2250BC and is refered to by science (unknowingly) as the 4.2kiloyear event.
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The Kings List...has been deciphered.
Did the Sumerians keep switching rulers because they had Dominion Voting Systems ?
6:17 I don’t believe that it was a mistake. It may have been one of their gods. The Fermi paradox suggests that we have had no interaction with alien life, however most ancient texts suggested people at one time lived amongst their gods, many wrote of sky people, had in-depth knowledge of things that they could not possibly know, and lived for hundreds to thousands of years. There are also some sculptures of those ancient Sumerian kings and they do not look completely human.
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The Gutians interlude seems confusing -- "they had no kings, but here are the kings", "who is king? who is not king", "a time of great instability" -- only because translators assume that the names in that period must be *hereditary* monarchs with lifetime reigns, and bend over backwards to fit the translation to that assumption.
But it all makes perfect sense if one assumes that the Gutians instead had non-hereditary rulers who were elected for a a three-year mandate, and occasionally re-elected one or two times. Note that almost all their "reigns" last a multiple of 3 years (3, 6, or 9). The exceptions may be chiefs who died or were "impeached" halfway through their mandate. The "20 kings in 90 years" is then not a sign of turmoil (which would have lasted 90 years -- really?) but rather of a remarkably stable regime. Perhaps the earliest recorded democracy ...
I have believed for a long time that Years in the bible and Years on the Kings list just means Lunar Cycles (so divide the number by 12). That explains most everything. The part of the kings list that says 36,000 years can not be explained (I thought it might be the length of that dynasty but even that is far fetched).
Great video Cy, keep the Sumerian stuff coming. I have been researching from 3000 BC to 2800 BC for the last two years for my FB page "Time Shadow History" and Sumerian stuff is really scarce.
Thanks, glad you liked it! Yeah, I lean more towards cycles hypotheses too...I'll also check out the FB page, thanks!
It could be the blood line of every king with the pre flood era hence the long reign.. perhaps the ancient assumed their forefathers name in pre flood times.
Yeah that's possible. I think that there is something lost in the translation that has made us miss something. Or, they just had healthy diets (no fast food) and exercised, causing them to live so long! Haha as always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
The years of kingdom reign similar to the ages in genesis are numerology codes. Add them together and reduce to the lowest single digit to find the hidden meaning.
Perhaps first kings had alien blood in their veins, thats why ruled so long. We never know it.
Just had a thought but what if these king lists are referring to dynasties rather than kings? I mean probably not, but it would make a lot of sense if they were.
Rather all figures are multiplied times 1000.
Hi my friend, thanks so much for stopping by. It's quite possible. I personally think that there is something lost in the translation or something else missing as to how/why they calculated such long reigns for them. It's an interesting, mysterious subject indeed. Anyway, thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate your comments. A lot more on this and the history of ancient Assyria to come as well, stay tuned and safe!
@@HistorywithCy Hi, friend! Thanks for the response. I agree that something is getting lost in translation. Excellent! I’m looking forward to more of your videos :)
Pretty sure the list is split between kings that ruled before the flood who are the ones with really long lives and those kings that came after the flood who lived long lives but not to the extent of the first kings.
They were not ruling for tens of thousands of years, those are days represented by the shar. The ancients did not count by years but by days and lunar cycles.
u know, if u travel fast enough in outer space time slows down.. so traveling 1year in lightspeed is probably 100years on earth.. something like that ish.. so if their kings was ancient astronauts it explains the long reign as kings
the list is completely accurate the reigns are not exaggerated thats why they were identical
Incredible. The kingship descend from heaven. 5 kings before the big event flood, more than 136000 years of longevity. How old is homo sapiens?
Thanks for the video, it seems that those early years are multiplied by a number, 100 or something else. All of them end up to 00, not 04 or 40.
Those kings were no hunans. Dates are real.
Is there any evidence that the people from Ur migrated into Canaan and became the Israelites?
Read The Lost Book of Enki. "Israelites"= Enlil clan.
@@theloner6063 looks like the place is a melting pot, being at the crossroads of east and west. Cannanites and Philistinians were half Greek, ancient Iranian and also Egyptian mixed in. Then the people from Sumeria came and mixed until the Israelites rose up and tried to break away from Baal worship.
in the ancient days there was no concept of a year they counted seasons or sun & moon rising & setting. for example somebody 25000 years that means 25000 days or 69 years
Dude you read it wrong. The reason for the longevity was the mantle is an object. It was a time keeping device of some sort, Likely water clock of some sort. The Bas Reliefs show the maintenance of the mantle of kingship. Once you understand that, then the times are the length of time stability in trade and leadership. The mantle of kingship stayed under a god king and his direct descendants. Which is why it was long periods of time. As the family lines started to blur, wars over the mantle were frequent. Why? Trade and science related. If you had the mantle, you were the main trade center. Which the mantle was important, until it was broken apart, reproduced. Also gods when a population is small are easier to control and perpetuate. As populations grow, so does some common sense. So people knew humans don’t live hundreds of years, but prophets and martyrs do and they do today too. Lol anyhow. Good segment.
I was hoping the king list would be more accurate.
I think these long reigns were not due a translation error,they were made like this.
We know by archaeology that early dynasty rulers were divinized after death.
They are sort like like Hindu Yuga Cycle with the impossible long timeline.
The total amount of years is 172,800. Perhaps there is an error adding too many zeros.
Isn't it "cycles of time" and not necessarily "years" for example 28800 cycles of days = 80 years (those days a year was considered 360 days long)
Why dont you use their calendar instead of the one we use to measure time. Just like they wouldn't know what a foot or a meter is. We should assume their word for year does not equal the exact amount of time as our year. Examples being : Did they have a leap year back then?
108000 days = 295 years…
It sounds like a misinterpretation of translation.
Years might of meant months and a month is easier to date ,
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Is Jericho City mentioned in the KingsliT?
Jesus has been reigning for two thousand years, according to belief, so why could the Sumerian Kings live longer? the king list did not say live for x years it said reigned for x years
And if while the skull was kept alive who was to say it was dead except the priest?
The last known record of a Sumerian King was a communication to Sodom and Gommorah and that happened in 2024 B.C. when both cities were destroyed.
@raran-md8cn The kingdom of Agade is known as Akkadian to history. It separated from Sumer around 3000 B.C.
How long was a Sumerian year?