In my opinion, the SMG class of weapon is a step below the others for the fact that they don't excel in really anything except fire rate; but functionally speaking, their ability to shoot fast doesn't do much for them in the first place when combined with all the other problems. The most debilitating of these problems, in my opinion, is the heavy nerf to your speed as you full auto the gun. An SMG, for all intents and purposes, should be an offensive weapon that excels at close range to capitalize on its high fire rate. In the state that ATN's SMGs are in right now, the continuous slow walk (Not counting the short bursts of speed you get in-between shots if you hold down click, which is probably not intended) as you fire makes you completely vulnerable to a, most often, lethal headshot. Couple this with the subpar damage and accuracy, and you get a weapon that's meant for full auto, but gets you killed for trying to use it. While the movement nerf works well for all semi-auto weapons because they are for the most part made effective on a single shot basis, automatic weapons are fundamentally different in what they require in order to be on the same playing field whilst still being balanced. I believe that the solution to making SMGs actually decent without having to tweak the damage or accuracy would be to allow players to sprint while firing, albeit at a slower than usual speed so melee users could catch up. This would make the SMGs an offensive weapon which are good for closing the distance, allowing you to be mobile enough while shooting to not be completely vulnerable to gunfire, which may also allow you to lay down suppressing fire as you get closer; giving it more (needed) identity and advantage over other weapon classes. And if you do close the distance, you will most definitely excel considering the extra mobility. Edit: Also I think you should do shotguns next
Finally someone giving a simple tutorial, no talking in chat or text on screen, actually using their own voice, thanks for the help I needed to know the stats.
all smg's are dog nuts but are pretty good for clearing a large area of people quickly, really good when paired with the overpowering ability of surprise
Man what a great review. I don't really use the Tactical SMG as much as I used to before, but still, it's amazing. The tactical SMG like you said is devastating at close quarters. I found it really useful during a fight in the mansion. But now I actually use the pistol, and duty pistol, more now. They're fairly accurate and deal decent damage. I also use the revolver for its relatively good damage (and 1-shot kills for headshots) and accuracy. Another great advantage for handguns are that you can draw them out fast.
The issue right is that pistols do the job of SMGS better. Pistols for increased lethality and headshot lethality. All it takes is two well placed headshots and you’re out of the fight. SMG isn’t able to back itself up and is only lethal in close ranges.
@@ConditionZero45 Yeah, I have used pistols in mid-range combat, and they have been pretty effective, while the tactical SMG tends to be more inaccurate at mid range.
Out of every gun in the game , the tac smg, duty pistol, heavy pistol, and crate rifles or ranch rifle is the only guns that are really worth it everything else ig is worth it if u just need a gun at that moment
@@aidennatteravent4519basic pistol is pretty good for its cost has a ton of ammo has great accuracy and can kill with a headshot i raided with it and its one of my favorites
in my opinion the smgs are basically just weapons of intimidation when you can't afford getting a gun from the gun crate but i guess its better than nothing i use them every once in a while (along with a secondary though unless its the mac) tho the tactical smg is actually good from what im seeing i just wish the other 2 smgs got a damage buff so its actually worth using them
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In my opinion, the SMG class of weapon is a step below the others for the fact that they don't excel in really anything except fire rate; but functionally speaking, their ability to shoot fast doesn't do much for them in the first place when combined with all the other problems. The most debilitating of these problems, in my opinion, is the heavy nerf to your speed as you full auto the gun. An SMG, for all intents and purposes, should be an offensive weapon that excels at close range to capitalize on its high fire rate. In the state that ATN's SMGs are in right now, the continuous slow walk (Not counting the short bursts of speed you get in-between shots if you hold down click, which is probably not intended) as you fire makes you completely vulnerable to a, most often, lethal headshot. Couple this with the subpar damage and accuracy, and you get a weapon that's meant for full auto, but gets you killed for trying to use it. While the movement nerf works well for all semi-auto weapons because they are for the most part made effective on a single shot basis, automatic weapons are fundamentally different in what they require in order to be on the same playing field whilst still being balanced. I believe that the solution to making SMGs actually decent without having to tweak the damage or accuracy would be to allow players to sprint while firing, albeit at a slower than usual speed so melee users could catch up. This would make the SMGs an offensive weapon which are good for closing the distance, allowing you to be mobile enough while shooting to not be completely vulnerable to gunfire, which may also allow you to lay down suppressing fire as you get closer; giving it more (needed) identity and advantage over other weapon classes. And if you do close the distance, you will most definitely excel considering the extra mobility.
Edit: Also I think you should do shotguns next
Pinned this because builderwaci actually is considering you’re comment
Finally someone giving a simple tutorial, no talking in chat or text on screen, actually using their own voice, thanks for the help I needed to know the stats.
all smg's are dog nuts but are pretty good for clearing a large area of people quickly, really good when paired with the overpowering ability of surprise
Man what a great review.
I don't really use the Tactical SMG as much as I used to before, but still, it's amazing. The tactical SMG like you said is devastating at close quarters. I found it really useful during a fight in the mansion.
But now I actually use the pistol, and duty pistol, more now. They're fairly accurate and deal decent damage. I also use the revolver for its relatively good damage (and 1-shot kills for headshots) and accuracy. Another great advantage for handguns are that you can draw them out fast.
The issue right is that pistols do the job of SMGS better. Pistols for increased lethality and headshot lethality. All it takes is two well placed headshots and you’re out of the fight. SMG isn’t able to back itself up and is only lethal in close ranges.
@@ConditionZero45 Yeah, I have used pistols in mid-range combat, and they have been pretty effective, while the tactical SMG tends to be more inaccurate at mid range.
Wow, this gun review helped. 👍
Out of every gun in the game , the tac smg, duty pistol, heavy pistol, and crate rifles or ranch rifle is the only guns that are really worth it everything else ig is worth it if u just need a gun at that moment
The basic pistol is pretty ok tho
@@aidennatteravent4519basic pistol is pretty good for its cost has a ton of ammo has great accuracy and can kill with a headshot i raided with it and its one of my favorites
Do something like this again this review helped
in my opinion the smgs are basically just weapons of intimidation when you can't afford getting a gun from the gun crate
but i guess its better than nothing i use them every once in a while (along with a secondary though unless its the mac) tho the tactical smg is actually good from what im seeing
i just wish the other 2 smgs got a damage buff so its actually worth using them
dayum wow
I might have seen you before in the forest weapon shop
i didnt realise these videos were so recent lol