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  • Опубликовано: 27 фев 2024
  • Michael Malice (“YOUR WELCOME”) invites esteemed author and journalist, Abigail Shrier, onto the show to talk about the evolution of bad therapy in America, specifically with children. Abigail and Michael talk about the trend of emotional hypochondriasis, the effects of ADHD diagnoses and medications with young children, and the increase of Iatrogenesis in the mental health industry: When, during treatment, a healer actually introduces a harm.
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Комментарии • 293

  • @MichaelMaliceofficial
    @MichaelMaliceofficial  3 месяца назад +12

    Abigail took questions from supporters exclusively at malice.locals.com/post/5326761/abigail-took-your-questions

    • @rsjcmp2285
      @rsjcmp2285 Месяц назад

      Micheal, you have to interview John Rosemond . He’s a trained psychologist who has spent the last several decades, calling out the mental health community and things like gentle parenting. He developed a more traditional parenting style when he noticed his kids were behaving horribly, and so he switched from the modern method to a more traditional method.

  • @winns35
    @winns35 3 месяца назад +93

    My daughter was secretly put on ADHD medicine by my ex wife when she was 6 years old because she knew id object to it. My daughter is now 16 years old and s sophomore in high school. I always told her if she ever decided she wanted to get off of her medicine I would back her and have the talk with her mom about it. During this past summer she told me she wanted to try and be off he meds. She done it and now 7 months later she is the most happy and doing just as well in school as before if not slightly better even. I couldn't be more proud of her. It was actually brave for a kid who knew nothing pretty much but being in this terrible medication and fought through the emotional and physical withdrawals. I'm so proud of her and it's been the best thing that ever could have happened.

    • @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069
      @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 3 месяца назад

      Paragraph separations are your friend.

    • @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069
      @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 3 месяца назад +1

      Also, it sounds like she was misdiagnosed which is very unfortunate. I think it's a good idea to get a second opinion.
      That being said, people with ADHD who go undiagnosed have life expectancies which are over 10 years shorter and are much more likely to have substance abuse issues than if they are treated.
      The current theory is that they are attempting to self medicate by doing street drugs. Also, there are multiple non stimulant medications for ADHD like guanfacine, clonidine, Strattera, Provigil, and Wellbutrin.

    • @garyfrancis6193
      @garyfrancis6193 3 месяца назад

      She “ done” it?

    • @sarahjane4908
      @sarahjane4908 3 месяца назад +4

      You made the right decision being patient and not engaging in conflict with the other parent. Sounds like your daughter came to the best decision on her own.

    • @acendiatmedia8747
      @acendiatmedia8747 3 месяца назад

      ​@@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 can confirm wellbutrin has had no downsides that I've noticed but the stimulants I took back in school put me in a haze.
      I would guess that life expectancy is more tied to impulsive dietary habits and fitness.

  • @juliagriffin2299
    @juliagriffin2299 3 месяца назад +62

    A session at the gym is more beneficial than a session with a therapist

  • @PinkTorpedo909
    @PinkTorpedo909 3 месяца назад +204

    My daughter (first child) was born in 2006. She was 14/15 during the lockdowns. To this day she claims I “put her in danger” because I wanted to take her swimming at the pool, or float down the river with friends or trying to take her to a restaurant. She also claims “trauma” for simply disagreeing with on any topic. She told her therapist she feels “unsafe” When I said I would never use anyone’s “preferred pronouns” because I view it as compelled speech. Her mother and her therapist have only indulged these negative feelings and have taught her to be the way she is today

    • @ironheadedDoF
      @ironheadedDoF 3 месяца назад

      They have Dis-Armed your child's mind. Now she's forever enslaved to so-called "experts" . So ... who benefits?

    • @Jangel3995
      @Jangel3995 3 месяца назад +34

      😞 sorry , that sounds like hell

    • @ironheadedDoF
      @ironheadedDoF 3 месяца назад +9

      @@Jangel3995 The hopeful thing is... it's not permanent for the daughter.

    • @davidwhite8220
      @davidwhite8220 3 месяца назад +12

      Ask her how many people it takes to disagree.

    • @Dabbajah
      @Dabbajah 3 месяца назад +27

      Stay strong man. I hope your daughter comes out of it someday and sees the truth, and reconnects with you. Prayers to your family.

  • @that1guy375
    @that1guy375 3 месяца назад +24

    Abigail's line about not letting the liars win really impressed me, I'm glad we have people like her shining a light on these problems. Great interview, looking forward to the book.

  • @BasedYoga
    @BasedYoga 3 месяца назад +42

    Abigail is absolutely spot on. I've witnessed therapy destroy people. My sister was a happy, well rounded 20 year old, with mild anxiety about going to university or not before she went to therapy. All of a sudden after going to therapy my sister started saying that she has PTSD,attachment disorder and authority defiance disorder or something like that. She said she had PTSD because our father was ""emotionally neglectful" during our childhood, I was like wtf no he wasn't, yes he didn't like talking about his feelings with us (stiff upper lip sort of guy) but he was so supportive and involved in our lives and we had a stable loving upbringing. She told me that I was just in denial because I hadn't been to therapy. Oh yeah and apparently the therapist told her she has attachment disorder because she has a fear of our Mom dying and she has authority defiance disorder because she finds it difficult to do chores around her house and doesn't like being told what to do. She is 100% more unhappy since going to therapy and has become 100% more a pain in the ass to hang out with.

    • @rudi5139
      @rudi5139 3 месяца назад +9

      "They've got you looking so hard for any flaw, that after a while, that's all that you see."

    • @BasedYoga
      @BasedYoga 3 месяца назад +2

      @@rudi5139 exactly!!

    • @rudi5139
      @rudi5139 3 месяца назад +3

      @@BasedYoga
      It‘s a quote from the movie Gattaca by the way.
      If you‘re looking hard enough for certain patterns, eventually you will see them everywhere.

    • @rpjswish
      @rpjswish 3 месяца назад +3

      They have to get a diagnosis for insurance to pay.. so, yeah.

    • @bbblackwell
      @bbblackwell 2 месяца назад

      Friggin' cultists. So many of us are defenseless against their mind-rape because we've always been told *what* to think, not *how* to think.

  • @robertcrego3997
    @robertcrego3997 3 месяца назад +69

    Malice knocking it out of the park, right off the bat, with how angering it is to see harm done to children.
    I'd wager that the last handful of years has seen the most damage done to the largest amount of children as has occurred in many generations.

    • @bbblackwell
      @bbblackwell 2 месяца назад

      So the plan is working. The frogs are boiling pretty hot now. Let's see if a critical mass will jump out, or stay in.

    • @mightyirish
      @mightyirish 2 месяца назад

      He's absolutely right that it doesn't have to be either 1950s bottle everything up, or the current opposite extreme that everyone should go to therapy and obsess about everything painful.

  • @Toddv1
    @Toddv1 3 месяца назад +27

    People like Abigail Shrier are real heroes. Everyone can see that there is a problem with doctors diagnosing every kid with ADHD and putting them on pills at 4 years old. She's actively fighting this dereliction of duty, enduring the vicious personal attacks, and dealing with all that stress just to make the world better.
    "I don't like to see the liars win." - I could not be more on-board with that.

  • @andallthatcouldhavebeen...9175
    @andallthatcouldhavebeen...9175 3 месяца назад +12

    I’ve been screaming from the rooftops about this since I was in public school in the 90s. It’s become exponentially worse since then too. People really need to get kids out of government/public schools. I know some say they can’t, doesn’t matter, YOU MUST!! People just can’t seem to grasp what’s really at stake here!!

  • @kimberleywarren8679
    @kimberleywarren8679 3 месяца назад +14

    I have worked in public education for 30 years. Clearly we are failing our students. There are no longer negative consequences for bad behavior or lack of will to learn. For example, when students don't do an assignment they get a 50% instead of a 0%. They miss 25% of the achool year and still pass to the next grade (social promotion). They yell at teachers and disrupt the entire class with no consequences. We need discipline back in homes and schools.

    • @bbblackwell
      @bbblackwell 2 месяца назад +3

      These people are failing the students, but succeeding at the goal of the educational system, and that's what they're getting paid to do, so mission accomplished, I guess.
      If they had the moral understanding to never accept a blood-money paycheck from authoritarian criminals, they wouldn't have allowed themselves to be useful dupes of the worst people in the world.

  • @hatalatesting6476
    @hatalatesting6476 3 месяца назад +7

    I had a freshman student last year who told me they suffered "severe trauma" when they were seven years old.
    "Share to your level of comfort."
    "My cat died."
    "Was it torn apart in front of you?"
    "No, he was just old."
    This catastrophizing is endemic in this generation.
    They've been taught that everyone is "lovebombing," "gaslighting," "narcissistic" and "autistic spectrum."
    If you believe something is true, then it is.
    It's "my truth" and is as valid as anyone else's.

  • @Pangora2
    @Pangora2 3 месяца назад +44

    As to ADHD and such, doctors tried to put me on meds since childhood, and I knew I could sometimes have focus issues or energy issues. My doctor STILL tries. Then I started to look at missing minerals in my diet and my sleep went from poor to perfect and my ability to learn and retain things went back to nearly my prime - and I'm 39 years old now.
    We're misdiagnosing diet issues!
    Also teachers are now often girls that hate boys. There's that too.

    • @socalledchaos8139
      @socalledchaos8139 3 месяца назад

      Same , me too

    • @theninjaofmusic
      @theninjaofmusic 3 месяца назад +3

      I've had persistent social and executive function issues consistent with ADHD for as far back as my memory goes. I didn't get an official diagnosis until 18 when my natural intelligence could no longer compensate for my executive function shortcomings. I have a fantastic diet, exercise regularly, and generally just take good care of myself. I still need my medication to help me function. I'm still glad that i wasn't put on medication as a child, but i would never have been able to build the fantastic life i currently have without my meds. There are those of us that legitimately need the help, but i believe that misdiagnosis are growing ever more prevelent.

    • @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069
      @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 3 месяца назад +1

      Every comment in this thread with a story like this just says "meds" or "medication."
      Could you be more specific? Was it a non stimulant or a stimulant?
      It sounds like your doctor made what in statistics is called a Type-1 error which means they thought you have ADHD but you don't. That's bad and dangerous.
      Equally dangerous, if not moreso is when they make a Type-2 error, that is, failing to accurately diagnose a kid who really does have ADHD with it.
      A large proportion of people with undiagnosed ADHD end up self medicating with street drugs, have many car accidents, cannot hold down jobs, etc.

    • @jayburris6252
      @jayburris6252 3 месяца назад

      Diet can heal a huge majority of ailments. Further statements than “good diet” is essential. That is a highly subjective term. I’d say no refined sugar is a good amount of sugar.

  • @generaljane7643
    @generaljane7643 3 месяца назад +14

    I am beginning to think that so many people have mental problems is because of the crap they are eating. I have heard many people who have changed their diets say that they have less anxiety and can think much better. The more people I hear say they are better the more I think it’s the lack of nutrition. Their diets consist of mostly sugar including carbs, grains , and seed oils.

  • @Beginningtopeak
    @Beginningtopeak 3 месяца назад +10

    I've felt a pull in the last five years or so to make my extended family stronger. The hardest part is getting people on board. I really do want a compound of some kind with parents and siblings all together.

  • @ce3547
    @ce3547 3 месяца назад +9

    As a young parent, I watched teachers talk to parents of children who had problems focusing and sitting still for hours at a time, talking them into seeing mental health experts. Basically, the teachers felt the child needed to be on a drug to keep them focused. If the parent disagreed, the teacher made school life so difficult for the child that the parent was guilted into making the appointment. Teachers should have never been forced into taking on more than they were able such as child disabilities or major health issues. It brought continual stress into the classroom where no one received a good education.

    • @rpjswish
      @rpjswish 3 месяца назад +1

      My first two children were born in the early 80s, my last child in 1999.. the difference in the school interaction was stark. I ended up pulling him out and homeschooling at two different points, and then, finally, withdrew in the senior year, got a GED. And I supposedly live in the "best" school district in the state.. pay attention, parents and grandparents.

  • @mikefleissner4415
    @mikefleissner4415 Месяц назад

    I was born with adhd hyperactivity. My parents could barely keep me in a crib until morning. I'm grateful for this conversation. Doctor told my mom control it with diet.Nothing artificial and no simple sugar added.vegetables and meat.❤❤

  • @andycarman7778
    @andycarman7778 3 месяца назад +17

    My closest friends along with my actual relations were my family. Straight up. I'm 62. We grew up as a community and stood by each other. Thank God for a small town.

    • @GabrielBacon
      @GabrielBacon 3 месяца назад

      Wish I could give my kids this. Family is spread out on every corner of the country. We just hang out with each other and friends once a month or so

  • @56Spookdog
    @56Spookdog 3 месяца назад +19

    My son had a kindergarden teacher that recommended he be on meds we said no. She was the one who actually had a problem with a kid that was a little more active. She was the only teacher that had a problem with him. His 1st grade teacher said he doesn’t ned to be medicated he’s just a boy.

    • @NerdlySquared
      @NerdlySquared 3 месяца назад +3

      If you have to drug your students to keep up with them, you’re just not a very good teacher…or adult.
      But what do you expect from a month long training course. Kids weren’t ever meant to spend so much time farmed out to strangers.

  • @amsalespush
    @amsalespush 3 месяца назад +19

    A person you might want to talk to about this is Gert Postel. I am not sure how good his English is, but he was a postman who faked his way into becoming the leading psychiatrist in a German hospital where he spent over a year, diagnosing patients, assessing court defendants, and "training" junior psychiatrists. All that with a middle school education. He later said that psychiatry at that stage in history was a complete pseudo science that "any trained goat" could do.

    • @garitobee7541
      @garitobee7541 3 месяца назад +1

      Is that where the phrase "Gone Postal" comes from? It's named after Gert Postel?

    • @amsalespush
      @amsalespush 3 месяца назад

      @@garitobee7541 Haha, no. No connection at all.

    • @nealorr5086
      @nealorr5086 3 месяца назад

      @@garitobee7541 "Gone Postal" was when we had a rash of postal workers shooting up their work places. Basically the government tried to turn people into robots and it (obviously) drove them nuts.

    • @karenbolton9526
      @karenbolton9526 3 месяца назад +1

      Same in nz fake psychiatrist got top ministry job

    • @Andre_Louis_Moreau
      @Andre_Louis_Moreau 3 месяца назад +1

      I'm completely unsurprised.

  • @drderbigny
    @drderbigny Месяц назад +1

    Weak parenting, harmful therapy, and lack of consequences are ruining our children. We really need parents to be warm demanders and expect better of our children and I agree with so much of what was shared here

  • @red-stapler574
    @red-stapler574 3 месяца назад +11

    Being a gen xer, I saw this with learning disabilities. Some kids did have them, but most were just the disruptive kids who were eating a ton of carbs (thanks food pyramid) and had no outlet since most of the shop classes were shut down. And may have had other issues at home. So they were just given Ritalin like it was candy. This was common in the middle class neighborhood I grew up in. About 10 years later, there was a huge meth epidemic in the suburbs.

    • @Andre_Louis_Moreau
      @Andre_Louis_Moreau 3 месяца назад +1

      Are you a late gen xer? I never saw any of that as far as meds. Disruptive? We all had our moments, some more than others, but teachers weren't clutching their pearls over it, just part of their job to deal with it. We also had recess and our choice of shop classes.

    • @red-stapler574
      @red-stapler574 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Andre_Louis_Moreau right in the middle. My mother pushed back on putting me on it. My issue was dyslexia and not ADHD, but wanted to put me on Ritalin anyway. Also, many of my friends tended to be younger than me.

  • @lawbulb
    @lawbulb 3 месяца назад +5

    I swear to god, I got a RUclips ad for “Lybalvi” manic depression medication RIGHT when I opened up this video.

  • @sarahjane4908
    @sarahjane4908 3 месяца назад +4

    This started a while ago actually. My sisters and I grew up in the late 90s early 2000s and we all had “diagnoses” of depression at some point growing up. Two of us shrugged it off and refused to take meds, but one sister leaned HARD into her diagnosis. It’s now become a huge part of her identity, affected her marriage (now divorced), and is basically ruining her life. The solution? More therapy, meds, and self help books for ppl with anxiety and depression. It’s making all of us so sad to watch. 😔

  • @timcombs2730
    @timcombs2730 3 месяца назад +3

    I feel while not fun my PTSD has have some upsides. It made me psychically stronger and healthier because the anger and aggression it gave me was translated into kind of an energy in my life that I found a benefiting outlet for one of the worst things in my life

  • @aynrandspetcat
    @aynrandspetcat 3 месяца назад +6

    Haven’t watched yet, but glad to see discussion about the harm and abuse marketed as “treatment.” I was misdiagnosed with an eating disorder in high school and put through an outpatient “treatment” program for 2 years. This treatment composed of me losing my supposed privileges of having a job, talking to friends, having my own room, choosing what to wear, choosing what to eat, being able to go outside…Each time I questioned what was being done to me or how any of it was supposed to encourage “recovery” i was further punished. My parents were brainwashed by supposed medical experts into believing I was too sick to make decisions for myself on my own, and that the only way they could “heal” my apparent eating disorder was by taking away any means I had of expressing myself or interacting with others. And that’s just a brief synopsis of what went on at home. The things routinely done to me and other individuals at the treatment facility I was forced to go to each week were far more concerning. I am no longer in this situation, but it makes me absolutely sick to know that so many people, especially children will continue to experience what I was put through, and that many of them will die believing what was done to them was necessary.

  • @claybemelis
    @claybemelis 3 месяца назад +5

    RUclips throws in the online therapy adds. Perfect

  • @thomdrolet2624
    @thomdrolet2624 3 месяца назад +4

    That Sylvia Plath joke was good.

  • @Roheline9
    @Roheline9 2 месяца назад +3

    “I wanted to hang it over my oven.” 😂😂😂

  • @aposematicayu
    @aposematicayu 3 месяца назад +10

    The parenting discussion towards the end is invaluable. I have noticed many of these issues and will be considering Abigail's research in my own parenting.

  • @eHex-iled
    @eHex-iled 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for your comments about the background noise of our culture, telling parents that they are stupid and cant survive without "the experts". I call this "social narcissism".

  • @kampdavies
    @kampdavies 2 месяца назад

    don't like to see liars win. love that phrase. We need more people like her who are willing to speak out.

  • @kham6006
    @kham6006 3 месяца назад +5

    I remember watching RUclips 12-15 years ago -watching the beauty community as they would call it and so many of these young girls and boys would talk about mental illness and how you should be almost proud of it as they were all being sponsored by BETTER HEALTH -on line therapy - I knew something bad was coming

  • @firstgenchevelleman
    @firstgenchevelleman 3 месяца назад +5

    This podcast is the greatest podcast of all time. Sorry Fleccas

  • @michellebaeza4618
    @michellebaeza4618 3 месяца назад +3

    Abigail, you are my new hero. Thank you! 🙏

  • @anthonysimon4991
    @anthonysimon4991 3 месяца назад +5

    I lucked out, in the early 60's they just dealt with my Hyper-activeness with "he must be bored", so they challenged me with more complexity.

    • @realMal1c3
      @realMal1c3 3 месяца назад +2

      Born in '96... how I wish that was my experience.

    • @anthonysimon4991
      @anthonysimon4991 3 месяца назад

      @@realMal1c3 It is sad what they do to kids now, in California it is illegal to give a kid an IQ test unless he commits a crime, they no longer push the bright kids, they muzzle them with drugs.

  • @stevecoombes1235
    @stevecoombes1235 3 месяца назад +3

    I was struck by a comment from a teenager I know who visited the US recently. She said young people there didn't talk to strangers in public. No 'hello' or 'nice day'. Just lots of isolated people.

  • @hcmangs3634
    @hcmangs3634 2 месяца назад

    Excellent interview Michael! You are a great host!!

  • @gertrudewest4535
    @gertrudewest4535 3 месяца назад +9

    It’s the obesity in young kids that angers me the most. According to doctors they will die in their fifties. It’s child abuse.

  • @smoaty4891
    @smoaty4891 3 месяца назад +2

    Irreversible Damage was an absolutely fantastic book. As a parent, I am looking forward to reading this one.

  • @kaley2933
    @kaley2933 3 месяца назад +3

    I loved Abigail’s first book; I got my husband to read it, too. Any parent of daughters needs to read it.

  • @rpjswish
    @rpjswish 3 месяца назад +5

    I learned recently that "Gender Affirming Care" was introduced into the "affordable Care act", aka Obamacare.. so there's a financial motivation. Your insurance policies are paying for the "transition" market. Spread the word.

    • @Thaimiles
      @Thaimiles 3 месяца назад +2

      A friend of mine’s child was upset with him after their divorce and only returned to be nice after she heard she could get surgeries on his health care. I don’t know the specifics. 😢

  • @jackn5581
    @jackn5581 2 месяца назад +1

    This conversation reminds me of the subject of home schooling. They act like you can't teach or guide your own children because you aren't a teacher, you don't have a degree. When you start you are teaching the ABC's & 123's - not calculus or the pythagorean theorem! You'll get there and there are tons of resources & home school groups you can join. We have given away so much, if not all, of our parental authority to government run schools/indoctrination centers.

  • @candynewton4945
    @candynewton4945 3 месяца назад +1

    When you move faraway from home and there are no relatives near to help you, it is a selective investigation of who you have to choose from as families in the area are involved in blood relative children. As a parent in this situation, my husband and I became very involved with outside activities to have our children join. We had to become leaders of these to open enrollment for ours. Yes, we agree if you have local relatives that are not abusive, addicted to pharmaceuticals, or alcoholic, let then visit. Tag team parenting is the way of the future thanks to Zoom. Thank you for the interview, it is a godsend. 🇺🇲

  • @icouce
    @icouce 3 месяца назад +3

    Why is anyone surprised that we get more of what we monetize?

  • @wearelightbeings
    @wearelightbeings 2 месяца назад

    Abigail is spot on. I had a childhood best friend who was completely ruined by the psychologists and therapists in her life in our early twenties. She had an amazing childhood, I was literally at her house every second I could be. We were basically sisters. She had minor mental health issues related to her lifestyle, none of us live super healthy lives when we’re 20. Rather than changing her lifestyle she was heavily medicated and spiraled into someone I didn’t recognize. Unfortunately it ended after years of me realizing she had become toxic to my life. It’s just sad this is happening to people.

  • @aaryck
    @aaryck 3 месяца назад +4

    I've been a therapist since 2007 and parent since 2015. I started to think *I* might be the crazy one because of how all my colleagues are acting, but maybe I'm the only sane one? This makes me wonder. I'm curious about this book

  • @markcarey67
    @markcarey67 2 месяца назад +1

    This was excellent. Thank you Michael and Abigail.

  • @sarahbarra3501
    @sarahbarra3501 3 месяца назад +3

    Sending a male child to public school is child abuse, change my mind.

  • @alicejohnmusic
    @alicejohnmusic 3 месяца назад +2

    I’m in my late twenties. Through experience I’ve come to have a very very bad image of “therapists”. I was basically abused by a lady therapist, put my dear mother through a whole lot of hell, and stalled in life. I was too young/ naive to know they only saw me as an easy source of income. I’m sure 0.01% of therapists are actually capable, but the vast majority are scammers, I have no other word for it.

  • @CareForASmoke
    @CareForASmoke 3 месяца назад +4

    I didn't notice it on Rogan, but here it's inescapable how beautiful Ms. Shrier's eyes are.

    • @LtGregoryStevens
      @LtGregoryStevens 3 месяца назад +1

      Stop leaving lewd and lascivious remarks in the comments

    • @nealorr5086
      @nealorr5086 3 месяца назад

      @@LtGregoryStevens That's not lewd. It's fringing on lascivious.

    • @CareForASmoke
      @CareForASmoke 3 месяца назад

      yeah I've been to YT comment threads... this remark is more like a lavish and laudatory placeholder for when I have time to actually watch the entire discussion and consider the guest's ideas more fully.

    • @Thaimiles
      @Thaimiles 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes, she’s lovely.

  • @Rainydazed100
    @Rainydazed100 2 месяца назад

    Two of my faves - together! Many thanks to Abigail for her healthy, wonderfully grounded approach to reigning in the insanity that's ruining our kids and families' lives, and Western society as a whole. Brava!

  • @alicetusk9290
    @alicetusk9290 3 месяца назад +5

    This was a great interview! Thank you

  • @brek5
    @brek5 3 месяца назад +2

    I taught for many years in a private setting, but one kid in particular was really rambunctious... might have been ADHD, what have you. I don't really bother with trying to dianose people. As a teacher, I just integrated him and his behavior (he was a wil like 7-year-old) into the class in different ways, so his energy and even outburts (positive in nature out of excitment, not negative) became just a part of the social landscape of the class.
    About a month in, his mother and grandmother showed up after class and asked if I had been having problems with him, and I said, "Nah, he's super energetic, but he's been alright." I thought they were going to kiss me right there in the hallway, haha... I was the first teacher who didn't go straight to complaining to admin or whoever and just figured out how to engage him in a different way. It takes more work, but in theory, that's part of the job of teaching.

  • @jayburris6252
    @jayburris6252 3 месяца назад +2

    I love it. Great interview.

  • @jazzyjac75
    @jazzyjac75 3 месяца назад +4

    Take the screens away and everything will be fine

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 3 месяца назад +10

    The common, and I thought universal cure for self-pity in my childhood was, "Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about." Worked every time.

  • @TCAPRecipes
    @TCAPRecipes 2 месяца назад

    I was cottled as a child. A lot like the newer generation. I was on adderall for 18 years. The withdrawl was several months of hell. I relate to a lot of this. Im a peace knowing im not crazy. Thank you.

  • @MJ-cs8ec
    @MJ-cs8ec 3 месяца назад +3

    Yay!! Glad I caught these two!!

  • @danking3903
    @danking3903 3 месяца назад +2

    If you think of everything in a spectrum it's not hard to get to this point.

  • @joshb8976
    @joshb8976 2 месяца назад

    Yeah this makes me realize how incredible my therapist was the one time I went to therapy. She didn’t push drugs on me, she didn’t make me talk about my feelings. I essentially just went in there and did stand up for an hour every week. I would just go in there and try to make both of us laugh and talk about nonsense.

  • @annkelly0072
    @annkelly0072 3 месяца назад +20

    The statement of children growing up with authoritarian & disciplinarian parents are happiest & have closer relationships to their parents is true!

    • @jones2277
      @jones2277 3 месяца назад +5

      authoritative, not authoritarian.

    • @annkelly0072
      @annkelly0072 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jones2277 Yes, authoritative is a much better term. Thank you.

    • @rworded
      @rworded 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@annkelly0072 Authoritarian parents actually do cause issues, as they are over-controling. Authoritative means there is some semblance of freedom.

    • @polysaturated
      @polysaturated 3 дня назад +1

      You can be your kid’s friend when they are young or when they’re adults, both is impossible.

  • @JB-gv5ro
    @JB-gv5ro 3 месяца назад

    Amen, Michael on the idea of the "chosen" family being so much important then your actual family.

  • @My56David
    @My56David 2 месяца назад

    Michael is complete right about the importance of the extended family. My extended family saved my life.

  • @noraono
    @noraono 3 месяца назад +1

    My 11 year old daughter has a best friend who is 15, and in the last year she has opened up to my daughter about her mental health a lot. She was referred by her school, and diagnosed with no less than 3 disorders, as well as questioning sexuality/gender. She is just a really smart, kinda weird/awkward kid. She has refused meds because they make her feel weird. It has led to my daughter having a lot of conversations with me- "mom I feel anxious too, but doesn't everyone feel this way?". Now I found out this girl's 9 year old sister is on meds for a mood disorder. It just terrifies me because I know I have power with my kids to keep them away from this stuff but I want to cry for all the well-meaning parents who are not paying attention.

  • @scalp340
    @scalp340 3 месяца назад

    The last 15 minutes of this was by far my favorite.
    Another solid episode from Malice.

  • @renadenham4250
    @renadenham4250 2 месяца назад

    A perfect 300th episode. Congratulations, Malice. I've learned so much.

  • @superninjaraidingman
    @superninjaraidingman 3 месяца назад +5

    Levity. Great word.

    • @spiritmatter1553
      @spiritmatter1553 3 месяца назад

      Not to be confused with lenity, a Shakespearean word.

  • @ThomasJJacksonVA
    @ThomasJJacksonVA Месяц назад

    Love that an advertisement for Qelbree (adult ADHD med) came on right in the middle of this wonderful interview. Lol.

  • @kwg5044
    @kwg5044 2 месяца назад

    Omg. I was so engrossed that I didn't even remark. Bless you both

  • @janetanderson3941
    @janetanderson3941 3 месяца назад +1

    Great interview. This topic needs to be talked about more

  • @davidjooste5788
    @davidjooste5788 3 месяца назад +5

    In Canuckistan this conversation could get you jailed.

  • @alexroth9197
    @alexroth9197 3 месяца назад

    Michael, I applaud you for allowing the neckless to have a voice in this world. Much love. ❤️

  • @troll_kin9456
    @troll_kin9456 3 месяца назад +1

    An incredibly important episode.

  • @katansi
    @katansi 2 месяца назад

    looool handwritten letter over the oven. Ok, totally gonna granny cross stitch some Sylvia Plath for the kitchen now. Thanks for the idea 😂

  • @LETSgoBRANDON08.
    @LETSgoBRANDON08. 3 месяца назад +3

    This is a good show

  • @miroirs-jumeaux
    @miroirs-jumeaux 3 месяца назад +1

    Fascinating!

  • @doyle9904
    @doyle9904 3 месяца назад +1

    Great interview!

  • @thanksfernuthin
    @thanksfernuthin 2 месяца назад

    The Japan info at the end made my day. There's always hope.

  • @NathanCline12-21
    @NathanCline12-21 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm 49, born just before Xmas of 74, and have been rebellious since birth. The oldest of 6 ran away from home for the first time at the age of 2. Started therapy at 12. Really needed it then and learned really quick that most of it wasn't good. A game i learned to play first with counselors and my parents and then others was to test if someone was actually listening or just letting me talk. I would start off talking about something real, but after a few minutes, start mentioning more and more horrible things and judge reactions. Very few people listen to others. Hated ssri was recently diagnosed with adhd I won't take any more pills. Cannabis has been my medicine for 35 years. Now I just wanna be left alone.

    • @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069
      @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 3 месяца назад +1

      People who go undiagnosed with ADHD and untreated have horrible lives typically. Life expectencies 10 years shorter, substance abuse, jail, divorce, many kids with different partners.
      I would suggest taking it seriously. Think of medication like eyeglasses for someone near sighted. Your brain is out of focus, it just needs a little corrective, that's all.
      Every car accident I have ever gotten in has been on a day where I did not take my ADHD meds. It would be reckless to others not to do so more me.

  • @arthurcady6302
    @arthurcady6302 3 месяца назад +4

    As somoene who was able to successfully treat my depression most of what I hear people saying when they talk about mental illness, they just do whatever they think they need to live through the day as a result of it. They use it as a crutch and excuse and they ALL encourage behaviors amongst each other that I know would have only exacerbated my own illness. Most of it is driven through Tik Tok and honestly therapists that give in and tell their patients to do what they want to probably stay in business longer than those that provide care.

  • @phillip53
    @phillip53 3 месяца назад +1

    Great episode!

  • @tsousley18
    @tsousley18 3 месяца назад +2

    Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, and all the while a great wind carries me across the sky

    • @simchascribe9412
      @simchascribe9412 3 месяца назад +1

      This is hopeful somehow. Thanks.

    • @tsousley18
      @tsousley18 3 месяца назад

      @@simchascribe9412 it's from the sopranos but it's attributed in the show as an Ojibwe saying. But there are many uplifting and hopeful saying from our mesorah also, don't forget that. We have an infinite wellspring to draw from.

    • @simchascribe9412
      @simchascribe9412 3 месяца назад

      @@tsousley18 Thank you. I will try to remember that. Any suggestions?

    • @tsousley18
      @tsousley18 3 месяца назад

      @@simchascribe9412 aside from Gemura and Pirke Avos , learn some Chasidus , or there are lots of Mussar seifers especially about bitachon and emunah. Idk if you have Torah Anytime app but Rabbi YY Jacobson, Rav Biderman, Rab Asher Wiess shlita, Rav Yoel Roth, Rav Yehudah Mandel (he's a Novardoker, good funny mussar) and many many others.

  • @mattwhisenhunt9635
    @mattwhisenhunt9635 3 месяца назад +1

    LOL I just got a bipolar medicine ad in the middle of this interview.

  • @snufalufagas
    @snufalufagas 3 месяца назад +1

    got a betterhelp therapy add during this lol

  • @mtfine
    @mtfine 3 месяца назад

    Bravo!

  • @philbridges3033
    @philbridges3033 3 месяца назад +16

    Want to improve kids' mental health? Take the goddam smart phones out of their hands and tell them to interact face-to-face with people.

    • @thomasscott7756
      @thomasscott7756 3 месяца назад

      Never gonna happen and it's not a good idea. The future is gonna be screens thats just facts. We are all gonna be on permanent screens in the future.

  • @billflipper1130
    @billflipper1130 2 месяца назад

    I raise a normal well adjusted son. His daycare was kept open during covid without masks. He wrestles and does jiu jitsu and plays outside every day. Parenting is common sense.

  • @Eliteownage
    @Eliteownage 3 месяца назад

    much love all

  • @harpazohope
    @harpazohope 3 месяца назад +2

    I can't see why she is controversial. She obviously cares about the genuinely ill also. My loved ones have troubles for real. Abigail is also protecting them.

  • @matthewphenix7952
    @matthewphenix7952 3 месяца назад +1

    46:50 I am going to make a counterpoint to this. Morphine used to be in cough medicine, drugs were far more common one hundred years ago so people were self medicating for their mental issues back then. Opium dens were a thing.
    I bet it’s increased in recent medical history with prescriptions specifically but I wonder how much we’ve just changed the drugs we use to address our mental health.

  • @TurdFerguson456
    @TurdFerguson456 3 месяца назад +2

    What are these people going to do when everyone else realizes what Abigail and Michael are saying is true? It's even worse that they're the type of people who don't admit when they are wrong! They'll double down and take the consequences. I hope that the "hurting kids" part of it all changes their minds. We'll see

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 3 месяца назад +1

    Is there a short term/ long term memory defect in some people that affects their response to injuries. I've been amazed at how quickly most kids recover emotionally from physical injury. Even kids with serious injuries seem to bounce back within days. I remember crying over a childhood injury and within a minute I would be laughing about it. Within five minutes I'd be back doing the same activity that caused the injury. If an adult told me the injury was not a big deal, I would accept their diagnosis and cease whatever hysterics I was indulging in. Candy also helped.

  • @FostRaider
    @FostRaider 3 месяца назад +1

    My ex-GF was on Prozac... numbed her out. Went from crazy nice to a narcist. Antidepressants are terrible unless you are truly depressed.

  • @MrGiggitygoo31
    @MrGiggitygoo31 2 месяца назад

    SSRIs make you numb so you can handle the trauma and retain the ability to function while you are handling it. The end goal should almost always be to "unnumb" yourself to the point where you can handle the trauma and function. Numbing includes other mental and emotional factors such as empathy and sex drive. It's a temporary bridge, not a foundation. Take care of yourselves!

  • @benmeltzer
    @benmeltzer 3 месяца назад +1

    My theory as to why the UK as reversed course on transing kids while America has not is, ironically, the lack of social conservatism there. Because America has a strong socially conservative party, the issue became uniquely partisan.

  • @hadtocheathimtobeathim6549
    @hadtocheathimtobeathim6549 2 месяца назад

    Abagail is brilliant and gorgeous.

  • @players02
    @players02 3 месяца назад +1

    36:20 authority is important

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 3 месяца назад +2

    Is there a negative effect to identifying generations? By constantly naming generations are we imprinting an unwanted and unearned generational identity on individuals?

  • @Yourmom48602
    @Yourmom48602 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks both of you amazing human beings ❤️ for your work. Wow what gorgeous queen 👸 God bless you hunny 🇺🇸

  • @jeremyogrizovich3247
    @jeremyogrizovich3247 3 месяца назад +1

    Abigail’s books should be required reading in high school

    • @nealorr5086
      @nealorr5086 3 месяца назад

      The kids would claim they trigger emotional issues.
      Required reading in university educational schools.