Two tips, 1) When you lobbed him, move forward and get your toes to around service line otherwise if you stand at baseline he can neutralize your lob with his own lob. 2) Better to hit down the line then come to net because when you hit cross court you have to move a greater distance to avoid being passed down the line.
This was entertaining hahha I was so bummed you lost! Dude that fall hahah watched it like 20x and showed my girl most un athletic thing I’ve seen in the nicest way possible 😂😂😂😂❤ keep up the work
Just one tip. High Balls on his backhand everytime. He will get short or he will be forced to change his game. When he get short play t-line with an angle. Longball he will Lob back. Short with angle he is forced to move and become unstable. Go to T line and react to volly our dropshot.
I think with some fine tuning you’ll be creating problems for this type of player more often than not. Hit the ball fuller and flatter for starters. With chippers (as I call them), the good thing is that with good movement you have lots of time to get in good positions to make decisive shot selections and execute. By hitting the ball fuller and flatter (vs lots of air and spin) you give your opponent less time and opportunity to get under the ball and play those lobs and chipped returns. You’re serve toss and technique looks fairly reasonable. Keep working on that, varying the pace and angles. Make your opponent make good returns to get themselves into the rally. Biggest advice - keep it simple at the net. Give yourself time and only go there to finish the point after a good approach. If he draws you in, make them play another shot - no freebies. Good luck!
Pushing is a valid strategy. I have as much difficulty maintaining composure as others against them. It's all mental if you're a solid intermediate player. You have to be consistent and deep, and deny them angles or the ability to take their time with placement. It's hard not to think of them as inferior or like you *should* beat them bc they push everything and you can play a more powerful game. It's easier to lose to someone who beats you with power.
Tennis is pretty wishy washy at our level. Some days you feel great but at least for me most days I'm not feeling the rhythm. It's amazing how consistent pros get.
First off, this channel is hilarious, love the commentary..etc. I think you just have to work on chilling out and seeing the big windows you have. example - After that underarm serve around 2:31 you had a pretty easy DTL backhand pass attempt. Anyway, I find that guys like this give you the time to put the ball where they aren't, you just have to take your time and then put it there with authority. You definitely have to punish his serve more too, I know it has spin but it's very attackable and he needs to feel pressure to hit bigger serves so you can get some sweet DFs from him. . You can definitley beat this guy, its just a mental challenge and you have to commit to your strokes for the entire match, which is hard but well worth it. UTR is great, make sure you are enjoying it and play loose! :)
Love the commentary man!! Keep it up, all the way through 4.5 we've gotta deal with these junk ballers. The good thing is though, once we figure out what works best for us against them at our level, you can beat pretty much all of them. You got this! edit: You gotta work on anticipation. You could've easily gotten to that ball if you reacted right when he brought his racket up right here: ruclips.net/video/7rh5CowTo3E/видео.html Since these guys don't hit strong winners, once you can anticipate your balls you can pretty much get to all of them. Then they just serve as a ball machine for you as you grind them down.
@@trashbintennis5550 haha I feel that. I JUST started being able to go full pace topspin forehands off of my friend's junk balls (if you look at my channel, it's Greg). Plays a very old man game and hits flat or slice only. First time we played, split sets. That match I recorded, I won 6-4, 6-1, and now I'm beating him 6-1 , 6-1 because I'm able to keep the ball deep, attack mid court balls, and keep him moving. Either way, if they get a w they earned it but it's definitely a playstyle to experiment against and learn your strengths for!
Nice match!!! Few of my thoughts: When you hit a heavy cross court ball with depth it usually generates a short reply. Need to be ready to pounce on this next ball with a big forehand (don’t let it drop), otherwise you will get passed/lobbed.
You played pretty well when swinging more freely. You should work on generating your own pace more off those slow balls, you've got the technique to do it I think its just about more reps. Great job forcing a third set here!
@@trashbintennis5550 You don't throw everything you got back again at the wall. Play the game that way and the wall will stay stuck in the middle of the court going pretty much nowhere.. For the wall likes to hang around on the back of the baseline. and as long as you hit everything all back deep down the middle or to the corners the pusher only has to step just a few metres across the baseline to intercept the ball. So the answer is to shorten up your lengths to create more angle and move the pusher out of the middle of the court. . Oh and it wouldn't hurt to throw in some 100 mph rocketing groundstroke slices every now and again.
A guy that has that kind of touch on the lob, you can't rush into the net that deeply. When you stop a little earlier you make him think twice, about that lob. That forces him to pass you close to the lines more because he doesn't have the kind of power where you can't volley it on the next shot. You had some of these points where you approach, he gives you a decent volley, but you don't do enough with it and you're a sitting duck.
That’s a GREAT point. I felt like I was doing the “right” thing going to the net but was getting even more frustrated that he was still lobbing me. Ima make him think twice next time.
when it comes to junkballers, u generally want to rob ur opponent of their time. As a result u could try to take the ball a bit earlier and step into the court. What comes with this is also an advantage, when it comes to angles. If u stood more in the court, u were able to hit with more angle and force mistakes or make ur opponent move, resulting in them having less concentration and stamina at the end of the match. Just a few quick tweaks u can implement into ur game. Otherwise great job. U are improving every video man :)
Move him from back to front and see how he reacts to tempo change. He is not so fit. Let him work for evey point. He will lose control. Everytime just one hit more in field as your opponante. Take your time 👍
That guy can run all day. He is a soccer player so he's got the endurance but pretty much zero tennis technical skills (follow through, serves, stepping into hits, etc). Might as well use a pickleball paddle with hits like that 😉
You really got the TOOLS to win that game, brooooo Your mind was way off the match and you did not keep the focus on important part: what to do to win points? Thinking about frustrastion or previous match where you lost does not help any :) Play him more, and next time, try to give him more consistent deep shots at 2 corners (no need to hit hard), and stay higher inside the baseline.
@Trash Bin Tennis that's true, it took me about 3 weeks just to be able to rally and took me another 2 months to be able to use it in matchplay. But a year later I'm so happy with my game, no more loopy forehands that barely penetrate the court. And advice from me is, if you do decide to make the switch don't ever go back to the old grip it was soo tempting for me just to switch back and feel good about my hits again, but I didn't. Now everytime I try our old grip, I honestly don't know how I did it, it's so awkward and hard to do.
@Trash Bin Tennis went from extreme western to semi western, if you do make the switch alot of your balls will pop up, make sure to hit across your body and flatten it. What helped me was remembering to keep my wrist down and kept it in my head all the time.
very interesting player. super frusterating for sure. I try to remember that yeah he's not good at topspin and pace, but he is good at defense, he has high shot tolerance (a lot cause his strokes are so short and compact) and he's good at the net. You'll get him next time
Stop approaching to net cross court. I've seen tons of videos of pushers and they all beat folks due to this mistake. The people who beat pushers can approach line and have solid overheads. Try it, it'll help.
At 5:09 you talk about Split Stepping. I was frankly appalled by what you said. If you were saying what I think you were saying your statements would show that you lack any understanding of what a split step is or how important it is in the game of tennis. It’s as fundamental to being able to play good tennis as having strings in your racket is. Couple of vid suggestions from “2 minute tennis” “ Why you need a tennis split step “ and “Correct timing of the split step.” There are many vids on the split step. These are just suggestions watch as many as it takes for you to understand the what ,why and how of a split step. Remember a split step has nothing to do with mindlessly bouncing on your toes during the point. The only players that don’t employ a split step religiously are those that have never executed the whole process of split stepping properly, both mental and physical. It’s such a major tennis movement hack / cheat code that it’s impossible to do it properly and experience it’s advantages and then choose not to employ it on every point. It’s a tennis life changing experience, something you’ll never forget learning. Like the first time you tasted your favorite desert or kissed a girl. You’ll be compelled to relive the experience.
You are a good tennis player but you need to hit with more pace / power to take away his time and you need to come to the net and put balls away at key moments that you set up. It's clear that junk baller will get to everything you hit. Watch Ian play against MEP on Intuitive Tennis Channel. He easily beats MEP when so many good players can't.
Your narration from 5:45-6:01. Basically you talk about your bad footwork and poor reaction speed. End by saying there’s nothing you can do about it. NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT??!! 🤦🏻♂️😳🙄😮💨😵💫😑🤔 learn to SPLIT STEP, your failure to employ one is at the heart of all the shortcomings you were talking about! NUTS! I give you great credit that you are as genuine at expressing your emotions as anyone I’ve seen on RUclips even outside of tennis channels. But at some point you’re gonna have to engage the purely intellectual side of your mind when dealing with your tennis or your never gonna more than scratch your full potential. You guys both seem to love tennis so much, I hate seeing all that passion go unused. In the the split step I’m not harping on some ultra advanced pro level tennis skill. It’s as basic as volleying with a Continental grip. Oh wait. Neither of you volley with a Continental grip. 😳🙄🤦🏻♂️
Sorry but I was in tears…..laughing at your frustration shots.Last shot in first set had me on the floor.
Daaang almost had it. I apologize for laughing when you fell. It's happened to me too lol
Two tips, 1) When you lobbed him, move forward and get your toes to around service line otherwise if you stand at baseline he can neutralize your lob with his own lob. 2) Better to hit down the line then come to net because when you hit cross court you have to move a greater distance to avoid being passed down the line.
This was entertaining hahha I was so bummed you lost! Dude that fall hahah watched it like 20x and showed my girl most un athletic thing I’ve seen in the nicest way possible 😂😂😂😂❤ keep up the work
It felt even more unathletic 😂. Much love Dill!
@@trashbintennis5550 hahaha thanks for sharing we will colab soon
Just one tip. High Balls on his backhand everytime. He will get short or he will be forced to change his game. When he get short play t-line with an angle. Longball he will Lob back. Short with angle he is forced to move and become unstable. Go to T line and react to volly our dropshot.
When you lob him, you should be coming up to the net so you can finish the point with a smash/volley and not allow him to reset it so easily.
Oh yeah 😎 good point!
I think with some fine tuning you’ll be creating problems for this type of player more often than not.
Hit the ball fuller and flatter for starters. With chippers (as I call them), the good thing is that with good movement you have lots of time to get in good positions to make decisive shot selections and execute.
By hitting the ball fuller and flatter (vs lots of air and spin) you give your opponent less time and opportunity to get under the ball and play those lobs and chipped returns.
You’re serve toss and technique looks fairly reasonable. Keep working on that, varying the pace and angles. Make your opponent make good returns to get themselves into the rally.
Biggest advice - keep it simple at the net. Give yourself time and only go there to finish the point after a good approach. If he draws you in, make them play another shot - no freebies.
Good luck!
Very executable advice! Thank you!
Pushing is a valid strategy. I have as much difficulty maintaining composure as others against them. It's all mental if you're a solid intermediate player. You have to be consistent and deep, and deny them angles or the ability to take their time with placement. It's hard not to think of them as inferior or like you *should* beat them bc they push everything and you can play a more powerful game. It's easier to lose to someone who beats you with power.
The guy is not more skilled than you, just better at winning
Tennis is pretty wishy washy at our level. Some days you feel great but at least for me most days I'm not feeling the rhythm. It's amazing how consistent pros get.
My camera also dies when my opponent wins 10 points in a row.
😂
First off, this channel is hilarious, love the commentary..etc. I think you just have to work on chilling out and seeing the big windows you have. example - After that underarm serve around 2:31 you had a pretty easy DTL backhand pass attempt. Anyway, I find that guys like this give you the time to put the ball where they aren't, you just have to take your time and then put it there with authority. You definitely have to punish his serve more too, I know it has spin but it's very attackable and he needs to feel pressure to hit bigger serves so you can get some sweet DFs from him. . You can definitley beat this guy, its just a mental challenge and you have to commit to your strokes for the entire match, which is hard but well worth it. UTR is great, make sure you are enjoying it and play loose! :)
Agreed on all fronts, especially the chilling out and enjoyment!
Good point on punishing the serve. I was thinking the same. Gotta take time away from him by hitting big returns.
Love the commentary man!!
Keep it up, all the way through 4.5 we've gotta deal with these junk ballers.
The good thing is though, once we figure out what works best for us against them at our level, you can beat pretty much all of them. You got this!
edit: You gotta work on anticipation. You could've easily gotten to that ball if you reacted right when he brought his racket up right here: ruclips.net/video/7rh5CowTo3E/видео.html
Since these guys don't hit strong winners, once you can anticipate your balls you can pretty much get to all of them. Then they just serve as a ball machine for you as you grind them down.
I can’t wait for that day!! I want to dispatch all of these shots with disdain.
@@trashbintennis5550 haha I feel that. I JUST started being able to go full pace topspin forehands off of my friend's junk balls (if you look at my channel, it's Greg). Plays a very old man game and hits flat or slice only.
First time we played, split sets. That match I recorded, I won 6-4, 6-1, and now I'm beating him 6-1 , 6-1 because I'm able to keep the ball deep, attack mid court balls, and keep him moving.
Either way, if they get a w they earned it but it's definitely a playstyle to experiment against and learn your strengths for!
How did you beat a d3 player but not the junk baller ? That sounds very unbelievable. You played good both matches though. Good video !
Nice match!!!
Few of my thoughts:
When you hit a heavy cross court ball with depth it usually generates a short reply. Need to be ready to pounce on this next ball with a big forehand (don’t let it drop), otherwise you will get passed/lobbed.
Thanks Kumar! Appreciate it! That’s a great tip, I’m a little tentative on those shorter reply’s so I’ll work on that.
You played pretty well when swinging more freely. You should work on generating your own pace more off those slow balls, you've got the technique to do it I think its just about more reps. Great job forcing a third set here!
Totally right about the reps!
@@trashbintennis5550 You don't throw everything you got back again at the wall. Play the game that way and the wall will stay stuck in the middle of the court going pretty much nowhere.. For the wall likes to hang around on the back of the baseline. and as long as you hit everything all back deep down the middle or to the corners the pusher only has to step just a few metres across the baseline to intercept the ball.
So the answer is to shorten up your lengths to create more angle and move the pusher out of the middle of the court. .
Oh and it wouldn't hurt to throw in some 100 mph rocketing groundstroke slices every now and again.
I played Utr Thursday and lost 7-6, 1-6, 7-10. I was up 3-0 in the super tiebreak. Small world
A guy that has that kind of touch on the lob, you can't rush into the net that deeply. When you stop a little earlier you make him think twice, about that lob. That forces him to pass you close to the lines more because he doesn't have the kind of power where you can't volley it on the next shot. You had some of these points where you approach, he gives you a decent volley, but you don't do enough with it and you're a sitting duck.
That’s a GREAT point. I felt like I was doing the “right” thing going to the net but was getting even more frustrated that he was still lobbing me. Ima make him think twice next time.
when it comes to junkballers, u generally want to rob ur opponent of their time. As a result u could try to take the ball a bit earlier and step into the court. What comes with this is also an advantage, when it comes to angles. If u stood more in the court, u were able to hit with more angle and force mistakes or make ur opponent move, resulting in them having less concentration and stamina at the end of the match. Just a few quick tweaks u can implement into ur game. Otherwise great job. U are improving every video man :)
Thanks mate!
Keep up the good content guys. When we getting TBT social accounts? Give the people what they want
Thanks man! Which social? Couldn’t pay me to go on TikTok but we’ve tossed around insta being an option
The guy will never get better.
We’ll see!
I keep telling him to retire 😂. 33 is too old to start playing tennis and league matches aren't supposed to be the only practice lol
Got the LeBron jersey on but definitely don't have his hops 🤣keep grinding Longshanks
Lol! No. My hops are so bad. I think hardcourts have demolished my knees!! And I’m 31 so athleticism is leaking quickly 😮
Move him from back to front and see how he reacts to tempo change. He is not so fit. Let him work for evey point. He will lose control. Everytime just one hit more in field as your opponante. Take your time 👍
That guy can run all day. He is a soccer player so he's got the endurance but pretty much zero tennis technical skills (follow through, serves, stepping into hits, etc). Might as well use a pickleball paddle with hits like that 😉
You really got the TOOLS to win that game, brooooo
Your mind was way off the match and you did not keep the focus on important part: what to do to win points?
Thinking about frustrastion or previous match where you lost does not help any :)
Play him more, and next time, try to give him more consistent deep shots at 2 corners (no need to hit hard), and stay higher inside the baseline.
Bro my mind was WAY off! It’s crazy how much mental focus tennis requires
I use to have same forehand as yours! Changed it last year, it was so unreliable for me
So unreliable!! I’m on the fence if I want to commit to switching because the learning process severely reduces my ability to have fun
@Trash Bin Tennis that's true, it took me about 3 weeks just to be able to rally and took me another 2 months to be able to use it in matchplay. But a year later I'm so happy with my game, no more loopy forehands that barely penetrate the court. And advice from me is, if you do decide to make the switch don't ever go back to the old grip it was soo tempting for me just to switch back and feel good about my hits again, but I didn't. Now everytime I try our old grip, I honestly don't know how I did it, it's so awkward and hard to do.
What grip did you switch to?
@Trash Bin Tennis went from extreme western to semi western, if you do make the switch alot of your balls will pop up, make sure to hit across your body and flatten it. What helped me was remembering to keep my wrist down and kept it in my head all the time.
Really cool video!
Thanks bro!
sorry man, cant stop laughing, haha! I know how it feels playing players like this especially on fast courts
The pain is real!
very interesting player. super frusterating for sure. I try to remember that yeah he's not good at topspin and pace, but he is good at defense, he has high shot tolerance (a lot cause his strokes are so short and compact) and he's good at the net.
You'll get him next time
Yeah I will! Thanks mate
How is this junk balling? He’s just adapting his play style to a less aggressive opponent.
I agree
Why do decent ground stoke players keep hitting the ball back to the junk baller wtf
Low IQ tennis!
Its fun to rally with a junkballer.
That's what it turns into.
A practice session until an unforced error is made.
It's hard to be cut throat competitive against an inferior opponent
Wow my dude. Just wow. You played well. Just need to control the point a little bit better.
Thanks man! And agreed, I want to be more consistently deliberate with shot selection.
You could have beaten him. You just hit too many short balls down the center and let him control the point. Just hit deep and to the corners
Stop approaching to net cross court. I've seen tons of videos of pushers and they all beat folks due to this mistake. The people who beat pushers can approach line and have solid overheads. Try it, it'll help.
Good tip! I make that mistake all the time so I’ll try it out.
His serve is weak you need to take advantage of it. Work on your return game.
At 5:09 you talk about Split Stepping. I was frankly appalled by what you said. If you were saying what I think you were saying your statements would show that you lack any understanding of what a split step is or how important it is in the game of tennis. It’s as fundamental to being able to play good tennis as having strings in your racket is.
Couple of vid suggestions from “2 minute tennis” “ Why you need a tennis split step “ and “Correct timing of the split step.” There are many vids on the split step. These are just suggestions watch as many as it takes for you to understand the what ,why and how of a split step. Remember a split step has nothing to do with mindlessly bouncing on your toes during the point. The only players that don’t employ a split step religiously are those that have never executed the whole process of split stepping properly, both mental and physical. It’s such a major tennis movement hack / cheat code that it’s impossible to do it properly and experience it’s advantages and then choose not to employ it on every point. It’s a tennis life changing experience, something you’ll never forget learning. Like the first time you tasted your favorite desert or kissed a girl. You’ll be compelled to relive the experience.
You are a good tennis player but you need to hit with more pace / power to take away his time and you need to come to the net and put balls away at key moments that you set up. It's clear that junk baller will get to everything you hit. Watch Ian play against MEP on Intuitive Tennis Channel. He easily beats MEP when so many good players can't.
Thanks Mike! I’ll check it out! I have some plans to work on hitting with pace this summer
Your narration from 5:45-6:01. Basically you talk about your bad footwork and poor reaction speed. End by saying there’s nothing you can do about it. NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT??!! 🤦🏻♂️😳🙄😮💨😵💫😑🤔 learn to SPLIT STEP, your failure to employ one is at the heart of all the shortcomings you were talking about! NUTS!
I give you great credit that you are as genuine at expressing your emotions as anyone I’ve seen on RUclips even outside of tennis channels. But at some point you’re gonna have to engage the purely intellectual side of your mind when dealing with your tennis or your never gonna more than scratch your full potential. You guys both seem to love tennis so much, I hate seeing all that passion go unused. In the the split step I’m not harping on some ultra advanced pro level tennis skill. It’s as basic as volleying with a Continental grip. Oh wait. Neither of you volley with a Continental grip. 😳🙄🤦🏻♂️
dawg wth how am I ranked a 2 utr but am way better than these guys
You lack power, I would describe you as a junk baller also. He was just better at it.
Need to up your power, especially on your backhand.