In a way that's good- if we got a huge influx of youngsters and other less disciplined types, they would bring drama with them that does not currently exist. Steel Beasts Pro PE is like this also. We do not want to be big and bring the less emotional pondering crowd that would tamper negatively with the gameplay and forums.
BMS is overrated. Sure its great if your broke and have no money, but the weaponeering in BMS bad. Individual CBU bomblets aren’t modeled as an example. It’s just one big explosion.
@@ajkulac9895 I just did - havent really touched DCS since 5/1and I dont miss it. Pre-ordered F4-E if that tells you anything...i havent even flown it...(and like you I started with F4, then the LOMAC days->DCS, now BMS)
@@PatrickJamesBeckett Won't take long either, with Razbam leaving the sinking ship and three modules disappearing soon enough, 90% of players will go straight for bms. Luckily.
@@getsideways7257 Falcon 4 with the either the FreeFalcon or Red Viper mod. I had a MiG-29 do a Cobra on me the other day in BMS too. I hate dogfighting those things!
@@iamfritz Well, many people take sudden pitch-ups for a Cobra, but that maneuver is only possible with a certain sets of aerodynamical features and a particular CoG placement - a Fulcrum can't do it.
I know we have an absolutely shitty weather in Paris right now that makes me feel like it's november. But if someone had told me that Christmas was also coming early, I would not have believed it! HUUUUGE thanks to the BMS team.
Played Falcon 4.0 since Falcon 4.0. What the BMS guys are doing is AAA quality. 4.37 with VR was a game changer. On par with the Richard Burns Rally crew. Thank you for keeping it alive. o7
Looks terrific. Been a DCS guy for many years, but the fact they still haven't bothered to even attempt to make ATC functional makes me want to give BMS a shot. I played Falcon 4: Allied Force many many years ago, perhaps it's time to go back and play this new iteration.
Do it - was a DCS guy since LOMAC days. To be fair I played F4 wayyyy back. I recently installed BMS and I havent even launched DCS since, and I preordered the F-4E if that tells you anything!
@@automag928 I started in the LOMAC Flaming Cliffs days too. DCS has come a long way in some respects but the game definitely favours cockpit simulator gameplay as opposed to real war fighting and airmanship. It’s depressing that after almost 20 years of playing it we still have the same brain dead ATC from the initial LOMAC days. Not to mention how frustrating the mission editor is compared to F4.0
While ED does move quite slowly in some areas, I feel I really have to take issue with your phrase 'haven't bothered to even attempt'. That is factually false. They've been actively working on a complete ATC overhaul for some time now - it actually seems like one of their biggest current activities. Based on what's being worked on, it could end up being the most faithful and intricated recreation of AI-based ATC communications in any sim. Please try not to just make stuff up in future.
DCS, in my experience, is fine if you want to fly the plane (you more than likely bought). BMS simulates an actual war, as well as stuff DCS does not do. ATC, certin features of the F-16, etc. DCS is flashy, while BMS just deos it's job.
Rediscovered Falcon 4.0...AGAIN! Back in the day, I played Falcon 4.0 for hundreds of hours. Had to install by loading about 14 floppy diskettes. Oh how I missed that game since. Today, the RUclips algorithm selected a trailer for BMS 4.37 Update 4. Why YT selected that, I have no idea. I thought this was for a new game, so I clicked it. Watched. Went to the website. It mentioned it's a mod for Falcon 4.0 and had a link to this Steam page for Falcon 4.0. Immediately bought and installed. I am so looking forward to playing again and adding the BMS mod.
@simgaminglife4392 Thank you for this trailer, awesome teamwork and great time we had creating this badboy. You are the BEST cinematic trailer creator we can wish for :-)
I have to say, I realize this is probably the last update until 4.38 but maybe some hotfixes. I have to say there were a couple of shots in there that I got goose bumps.
I am proud to belong to the 90's generation and had played from the one of first f16 sinulator falcon AT from Holobyte, and the falcon 3 and falcon 4. The BMS team keep the nostalgia of that times with paixon and perseverance. Big thank you for the enfort of the team.
Thank you for giving us a proper full-fidelity F-15 cockpit. I understand Falcon 4.0 is an F-16sim so you really didn’t have to, but I love being able to properly use my STECS in a sim aircraft.
Do you like Falcon 4.0 ? I was never really a great fan of their early work, too artsy. But when BMS came out in 87' ... I think 4.37 is their undisputed masterpiece.
Yo DCS mods had a literal conniption fit on their forums because I asked why the TGT SEP button didn't work on the f-16C. They can kiss any more money from me goodbye.. Glad I only bought the f-16C at half price before I figured out the devs at ED were absolute cry babies. BMS all the way.
Sweet Jesus, I'm so excited! My HOTAS died a few months ago. I've been reluctant to get a new one for some time now, but this release has definitely convinced me to move forward with that ASAP!
@@MaxWaldorfYou and your formendable crew have done a brilliant job under the hood keeping this sim alive. I salute all your efforts. I am confident the new terrain engine coming will take this sim to another another level.
Thank you and thank you , I remember going from Tucson az to get this simulation back in 1998 , 2 hr back in /from , it changed my life ,I had so much enjoyment specially with the campaign, even got my privet license pilot but things changed in life and I had to stop and be a business owner to support bills, life , my happy place in my mind has always been on that f16 taking off from the east Korea base and being in there doing my perimeter AA , Im glad this is still a thing
I spent over $500 on DCS - half of them do not work correctly. Other than the usual bugs, recent Eagle Dynamics vs Razbam fiasco has completely wrecked havoc on DCS playability. Where as for BMS, its almost free (they still recommend to purchase Falcon 4.0 proper), and you get the best experience ever.
How’s the Multicrew integration going? The F-16D F4 and Tornado (and dare I say, F15E) would all be awesome additions to BMS stock. You keep adding more stuff I never thought I’d see in BMS. keep blowing the community away!
@@SnaxDesAvions I’m sure… you’ll need some jets that are Multicrew updated to scratch first :) But if we all keep mentioning it, the devs know it’s definitely still requested :)
Been flying flight sims since the early 1980s, including all the Falcon installments. I keep thinking, "OK, I'm flight simmed out"... then BMS posts another update.
@@micro3939 I don't care about good content, I care about viewing MY bad flying :) Without jumping through a million hoops with running multiple clients and so on that BMS content creators have to rely on. Every but every flight sim that I remember has a replay mode, BMS is such an unfortunate exception :(
@@pjslon9219sorry but I don’t understand. If your intention is to learn from mistakes and analyse your flight , acmis (tacview) is millions time better than a video replay . Video replay is nice for movies
The BMS team is the hero of flight sim fans everywhere. They do not get the recognition they deserve.
In a way that's good- if we got a huge influx of youngsters and other less disciplined types, they would bring drama with them that does not currently exist.
Steel Beasts Pro PE is like this also. We do not want to be big and bring the less emotional pondering crowd that would tamper negatively with the gameplay and forums.
@@iamfritz gatekeeping simulators is so cringe
BMS is overrated. Sure its great if your broke and have no money, but the weaponeering in BMS bad. Individual CBU bomblets aren’t modeled as an example. It’s just one big explosion.
@@CaptainMetalwing Compared to what?
@@f0v3r. Point in case.
That looks pretty cool. I'll have to try it when I'm back home in a few months.
Wise Choice sir 😎💪
Wow its Mover commenting on BMS update video
F-16 is much better modeled that in DCS, as far as I heard. But just to install this thing is such a pain in the ass
@@Demka03 If you dont have the patience to install Falcon BMS where do you find the patience to then learn how to fly the F-16?
@@simgaminglifeofficial Yeah, because it's the same thing, right?
Someone needs to do a documentary on the Falcon BMS story. This is just incredible!
There are some videos and interviews
Been there since 1998…. Crazy when I think about it.
When bms gets a new terrain I will love it even more
I’ve been playing since Falcon AF. Free Falcon -> Open Falcon -> BMS. I swear every time I think it’s as far as it can go… they just do it again
same
@@briantoplessbar4685 I played Falcon AF a lot, switched to LOMAC, then DCS, but seeing this I'm considering going back to Falcon
@@ajkulac9895 Well, I've been around since Falcon 3.0 for DOS, but only recently things are starting to look really interesting.
@@ajkulac9895 I just did - havent really touched DCS since 5/1and I dont miss it. Pre-ordered F4-E if that tells you anything...i havent even flown it...(and like you I started with F4, then the LOMAC days->DCS, now BMS)
Another milestone on the ever-growing mountain of Falcon BMS achievements....
Bms will out manuver dcs in future
@@PatrickJamesBeckett Won't take long either, with Razbam leaving the sinking ship and three modules disappearing soon enough, 90% of players will go straight for bms. Luckily.
BMS: Improving already amazing AI and ATC
DCS: We Don't Do That Here!
I remember, 16 years ago, dogfighting a MiG-29 who did a Cobra on me and totally got behind me and setup for a shot. 16 years ago!
@@iamfritz What are you talking about? Or did that happen in Falcon?
@@getsideways7257 Falcon 4 with the either the FreeFalcon or Red Viper mod. I had a MiG-29 do a Cobra on me the other day in BMS too. I hate dogfighting those things!
@@iamfritz Well, many people take sudden pitch-ups for a Cobra, but that maneuver is only possible with a certain sets of aerodynamical features and a particular CoG placement - a Fulcrum can't do it.
BMS: almost free, most detailed sim
DCS: Lol here's 30% of Afghanistan, pay me
Mixed Reality implementation is INCREDIBLE. I never even considered it as an option before. BMS leads the way in flight sims... again.
I know we have an absolutely shitty weather in Paris right now that makes me feel like it's november. But if someone had told me that Christmas was also coming early, I would not have believed it!
HUUUUGE thanks to the BMS team.
Everybody's freaking out about L16, and here I am happy about an untextured MiG-29 pit.
Excuse me?? Oh is this about the blender plug-in?
The BMS team never fails to deliver, you all rock!
The BMS dev team are legends. Great stuff.
damn! really excited for new graphics and Link 16
keep up with the work! we love news!
Played Falcon 4.0 since Falcon 4.0. What the BMS guys are doing is AAA quality. 4.37 with VR was a game changer. On par with the Richard Burns Rally crew. Thank you for keeping it alive. o7
Is this an all new falcon game ? I played the original falcon gameband falcon 4.
@@defaultHandle1110 apparently it's falcon 4.0 but with mods to make it current
Definitely didn't expect Link 16 to come this early... Super super excited about it!
Looks terrific. Been a DCS guy for many years, but the fact they still haven't bothered to even attempt to make ATC functional makes me want to give BMS a shot. I played Falcon 4: Allied Force many many years ago, perhaps it's time to go back and play this new iteration.
Do it - was a DCS guy since LOMAC days. To be fair I played F4 wayyyy back. I recently installed BMS and I havent even launched DCS since, and I preordered the F-4E if that tells you anything!
As a BMS virtual pilot/player and as a dedicated BMS content creator I strongly recommend that you try BMS ✌️😎✌️
@@automag928 I started in the LOMAC Flaming Cliffs days too. DCS has come a long way in some respects but the game definitely favours cockpit simulator gameplay as opposed to real war fighting and airmanship. It’s depressing that after almost 20 years of playing it we still have the same brain dead ATC from the initial LOMAC days. Not to mention how frustrating the mission editor is compared to F4.0
While ED does move quite slowly in some areas, I feel I really have to take issue with your phrase 'haven't bothered to even attempt'.
That is factually false. They've been actively working on a complete ATC overhaul for some time now - it actually seems like one of their biggest current activities. Based on what's being worked on, it could end up being the most faithful and intricated recreation of AI-based ATC communications in any sim.
Please try not to just make stuff up in future.
DCS, in my experience, is fine if you want to fly the plane (you more than likely bought). BMS simulates an actual war, as well as stuff DCS does not do. ATC, certin features of the F-16, etc. DCS is flashy, while BMS just deos it's job.
Outstanding! Open XR finally. Best sim getting even better.
Super excited with what the BMS team has achieved so far! Nice working with you guys ♥️
Rediscovered Falcon 4.0...AGAIN!
Back in the day, I played Falcon 4.0 for hundreds of hours. Had to install by loading about 14 floppy diskettes. Oh how I missed that game since.
Today, the RUclips algorithm selected a trailer for BMS 4.37 Update 4. Why YT selected that, I have no idea. I thought this was for a new game, so I clicked it. Watched. Went to the website. It mentioned it's a mod for Falcon 4.0 and had a link to this Steam page for Falcon 4.0. Immediately bought and installed.
I am so looking forward to playing again and adding the BMS mod.
You sure it's not Falcon 3.0? 4.0 came in a CD and a 500+ page manual.
@@ken33935 I never had Falcon 3.0. I'm looking at my stack of diskettes as I type this.
@@ken33935That manual was pretty good, my 4.0 was definitely a CD ROM
Very cool trailer 🎉
Hey Tricker, what are you doing here 😄
@@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607 I enjoy some bms content 👀
@@TrickerDCS Any plans on a BMS video?
@@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607 I’m in the process of moving right now but maybe later in the month 💪🏻
@@TrickerDCS Well I hope you the best, love your vids ❤
Holy cow! This is looking really good! I’m gonna have to fire it back up and check out the grey eagle again.
In BMS We Trust!!!
amen mate, amen
Amen
Amen, brother, Amen
in DCS we Dont?
@@earthexplorer579 Donate Cash Simulator
I wish the other flight sim guys had half the dedication you guys do.
Let's go BMS, Let's go
good job guys! i'm really glad I started playing around with BMS in recent years.
LINK 16, I've been waiting a long time for that. Great update!
BMS Devs ROCK!
@simgaminglife4392 Thank you for this trailer, awesome teamwork and great time we had creating this badboy. You are the BEST cinematic trailer creator we can wish for :-)
great work from all of you guys, proud!
Well look at this. Guess DCS got some serious competition. I love this.
Mixed Reality … let’s start our cockpit project now !
A huge thank you for all these amazing features
the first time ever there has been a video release just for an update!
As always, you guys did a fantastic job! Well done team! The king of Air Combat Simulation is alive and better than ever!
This is next level. Awesome.
This is the best fucking update ever. The whole Falcon BMS team def fucks.
*rocks?
@@man_vs_life well that too lol
@@man_vs_life NO he's saying they're so awesome that they DEFINITELY GET LAID
@@freighttrain7143 Not buying that but it _would_ be a just reward. 😁
Thank you, all BMS devs!
I have to say, I realize this is probably the last update until 4.38 but maybe some hotfixes. I have to say there were a couple of shots in there that I got goose bumps.
I am proud to belong to the 90's generation and had played from the one of first f16 sinulator falcon AT from Holobyte, and the falcon 3 and falcon 4. The BMS team keep the nostalgia of that times with paixon and perseverance. Big thank you for the enfort of the team.
As a DCS user, I always look at the tremendous progress of BMS with some envy.
You know, maybe I should give BMS a shot.
Thank you for giving us a proper full-fidelity F-15 cockpit. I understand Falcon 4.0 is an F-16sim so you really didn’t have to, but I love being able to properly use my STECS in a sim aircraft.
Downloaded BMS the other day ...going to give DCS a rest for a while and see if I can get my head around this
Looks absolutely incredible. I need a bigger hard drive :)
Looking GOOD! I'm happy it's getting new life, I haven't been flying BMS for some time, I could revisit and stay awhile!
Graphics are really coming along nicely!
Just keeps getting better !
Impressive job guys, as always!
Long live falcon bms
So many years and to me, the best sim
Congratulations BMS team! And thanks for your hard work 🍻
DCS: "Impressive, very nice, let's see BMS's L-16"
BMS:
lmao
Do you like Falcon 4.0 ? I was never really a great fan of their early work, too artsy.
But when BMS came out in 87' ... I think 4.37 is their undisputed masterpiece.
'87? @@mro9466
Oh my god. The subtle display of multiple aircraft in the JHMCS. It even has the correct label : L16
Yo DCS mods had a literal conniption fit on their forums because I asked why the TGT SEP button didn't work on the f-16C. They can kiss any more money from me goodbye.. Glad I only bought the f-16C at half price before I figured out the devs at ED were absolute cry babies. BMS all the way.
WOW guys! this is seriously impressive! ive had my eyes on BMS for a while but this might be the thing that makes go for it!
Looks really good!
Falcon; being awesome since '98. I remember being already very impressed with SuperPak1
I love you BMS!!
very well done team
link16 finally👌
love it! thank you so much! i am very excited to test the mixed reality mode. awesome development!
Sweet Jesus, I'm so excited! My HOTAS died a few months ago. I've been reluctant to get a new one for some time now, but this release has definitely convinced me to move forward with that ASAP!
I have had the less expensive VKB gladiator for 4 years and the Stecs throttle for 2 years. Not one problem and they feel very good.
@@tedburg6042 that is the exact same setup I have been thinking of buying 👍🏻
Impressive Bms developers. I am amazed by your unmonetized dedication to this old but very function flight sim
The name is old but not the tech inside anymore 😂
@@MaxWaldorfYou and your formendable crew have done a brilliant job under the hood keeping this sim alive. I salute all your efforts. I am confident the new terrain engine coming will take this sim to another another level.
Just. Pure. Awesome.
🍻 To the BMS team, you guys are amazing
best dev team in the world with no doubt.
WOW!!! What a great update! Thank you for making our dreams come true! You will always have our trust and support!
Wow! What a discipline! What a dedication! Thanks for all.
incredible work! You're amazing
good job team thanks!!!
Amazing, I really need to get back into Falcon 4.0!
crazy that Falcon 4.0 is still around....
Thank you so much for all your hard work again to make flying BMS so much fun!
Thank you and thank you , I remember going from Tucson az to get this simulation back in 1998 , 2 hr back in /from , it changed my life ,I had so much enjoyment specially with the campaign, even got my privet license pilot but things changed in life and I had to stop and be a business owner to support bills, life , my happy place in my mind has always been on that f16 taking off from the east Korea base and being in there doing my perimeter AA , Im glad this is still a thing
Very good,thanks BMS team🇮🇱🇧🇷
Thanks BMS Team, for just the best sim available anywhere.
Awesome ! Worth the (long) wait 🎉Thank you !
Thank You. Its amazing
Man the game never starts giving
Tbh with alot of the stuff going on with ED and Dcs I might have to try bms out. Looks great
Sublime! Thank you so much!
thank you guys so much for your hard work, this is awesome!
SUPERB!!!!!!!
damn this sim is looking good....love it
This has come a long way sine the original, well done guys
You guys just keep crushing it. Thank you.
This is unbelievable! Thank you very very much!
One of the most underrated flight simulators right here.
Stunning!! 🤩 Good job
Lets goooo... idemooo
It will take one big pocket investor to skyrocket BMS and surpass DCS in every aspect. Because the BMS team is putting amazing effort in this already!
No money please...
hell yeah... LINK 16🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I spent over $500 on DCS - half of them do not work correctly. Other than the usual bugs, recent Eagle Dynamics vs Razbam fiasco has completely wrecked havoc on DCS playability. Where as for BMS, its almost free (they still recommend to purchase Falcon 4.0 proper), and you get the best experience ever.
Okay, this is the trailer that will make me try BMS. With the issues Razbam is having with ED, sadly, a move may be inevitable.
Outstanding works! Love you!
How’s the Multicrew integration going? The F-16D F4 and Tornado (and dare I say, F15E) would all be awesome additions to BMS stock. You keep adding more stuff I never thought I’d see in BMS. keep blowing the community away!
multicrew is planned, but last time I asked I-Hawk, it's not started yet, there are more important things first
@@SnaxDesAvions I’m sure… you’ll need some jets that are Multicrew updated to scratch first :)
But if we all keep mentioning it, the devs know it’s definitely still requested :)
Been flying flight sims since the early 1980s, including all the Falcon installments. I keep thinking, "OK, I'm flight simmed out"... then BMS posts another update.
Glad to have you back! 🤙
Awesome, Carry On BMS 🤙
good to see some competition!
No competition at all, just some community guys doing what they like best in their free time.
Nice Work !
Here we go...
Impressive to see OpenXR
it's coming.
Greatest Flight simulator ever. Wonderful community. I wish I had more time to get involved with MP stuff. One day
Cinematic replay mode pretty please! The sim deserves more and more with each and every update! Great work as always though, Benchmark Sims!
As you can see, you don't need a replay mode to make good content :-)
@@micro3939 I don't care about good content, I care about viewing MY bad flying :) Without jumping through a million hoops with running multiple clients and so on that BMS content creators have to rely on. Every but every flight sim that I remember has a replay mode, BMS is such an unfortunate exception :(
Use acmi
@@MultiJp51 Acmi is like Tacview, just imagine what this very video would look like if it was made with Acmi :D
@@pjslon9219sorry but I don’t understand. If your intention is to learn from mistakes and analyse your flight , acmis (tacview) is millions time better than a video replay . Video replay is nice for movies