If Joni really believed her new marriage was "right", she wouldn't need to shove it down her children's throats. She is very controlling. Now she's losing control, and it's driving her crazy.
Joni had a lot to say but funny she had nothing to say about putting tracking devices on their cars and having private investigators following them and photographing them. Please explain that, Joni. Is that normal for employees?
I would, too, if I were innocent. I'd do what I had to do to prove it and protect everything I worked for. Abuse has not been proven to me. Take it to court, Joni. Let a jury who hear all the facts decide. Fire that kid of yours. Write him out if your will immediately. Never hire your kids in your business. 99% of the time, it's a mistake.
Joni had her response show to address the thing said she had a different demeanor than what Joni and Jimmy were speaking Lucipherian Ideology , Pete is a preditor and Rachel acts like a jealous lover over a small child , sick, rachel and pete need to be jailed. JONI and Jimmy step out of ministry your both evil
@@neciedenshe was the family counselor during all of this and knows the entire story and shared what happened on another podcast and said exactly what Suzy said happened is the truth
Marcus & Joni lied & told Jonathan and Suzy and the family the "investigation" investigation cleared Pete Joshua. They also cut off Jonathan & Suzy from the Investigators Denise & a forensics investigator. Denise went on a podcast and said that was not true. It did not clear Pete Joshua. It ended because Pete Joshua would not participate & refused to answers any questions so they had to end the investigation. Pete Joshua was not cleared at all.
About submitting to your employer: I am a retired Torah observant believer who has worked for different companies over the years. My religious convictions are such that I will not work on Saturdays and other holy days specified in the Bible. I am so, so thankful that none of my employers EVER demanded that I forego my convictions and work on Saturdays "or else." So yes, when Jonathan and Suzie refused to read the viewer comment praising Joni and Doug's marriage due to the questionable circumstances and their conviction that it wasn't a Biblically-sanctioned marriage, a kind employer would have acquiesced and asked someone else to read the viewer comment. We should always show respect for the convictions of others.
They weren’t upset because the man had a divorce in his past. The guy left his wife that did nothing wrong for Joni. That is the issue. That is why they are not at peace with the situation
There is a video on You Tube where Denise Boggs (the close family counselor) explains what she was told by all members of the family that she talked to after the incident. After her counsel she referred them to Debbie Lyonhart who is a certified counselor to talk to them and counsel them. After Pete and his wife went to counseling Pete refused to return and did not talk when they were there at counseling. It is imperative you watch the video! These 2 counselors have nothing to gain by telling the truth but Joni has everything to loose if she is unmasked.
Joni covered up her own father's sexual abuse of a female employee that was working under him in Daystar. She even fired the woman. The victim's lawyer had a meeting with Daystar lawyer to see what was the reason his client was fired. Then Marcus 7yr affairs was exposed 💯
Also, just based on her non verbal communication, she was lying about when Josh entered the room where Jonathan and Suzy's baby was changing. And other things. I would love to see her questioned by a professional.
@@rachybaby72 There are 3rd party witnesses of inappropriate behaviour (stroking and kissing the child by the perp) and stalking of the child by the perp -- by her aunt and her nanny. And there are other victims of the perp. But they need to come forward.
Chilldren lie every day. That is why we, as parents, must teach them the consept of truth. Regardlless we must pray and love all of the Lamb-family. Every indivual.
@@kerstiZweidorffDokken The childish lying you're talking about is Very Different from a 5 year old girl saying "a boy taller than Daddy touched me under my skirt"!
@ No lie or flattery. You covered everything-faith, family, social dynamics, and the tragedies of family discord, spiritual bullying, and (of course) abuse. You even used your own experience and perception from being on DayStar. Above all, you understand the difference between allegations and known abuses in scandals. This episode was truly impressive.
Child abuse should never be handled internally. For family to handle it, especially grandparents, that way is total betrayal. I am so sorry Jonathan and Suzi had to go through that from the people we trust most. I will pray for their family. Daystar need to come clean and repent for what has happened. The child abuse should be the priority and keep Pete away from all children. ✝️✝️🙏
I think Suzie is NOT being entirely truthful. She is likely embellishing her story because she was fired and decided to burn the house down on her way out. Hope she doesn't drive Jonathan off the Cliff 😮
@@JeannieMitchellMyers I listened carefully to SUZIE. She is NOT being entirely Truthful. Why didn't she raise these arguments of about child abuse until she was fired? I read her account of what her child told her about the alleged abuse. Is that NOT Completely different from what Suzie is saying now?
@christieprince6991 her dgtr told her she was molested at 5 yrs old and demonstrated to her how it was done at 5 yrs old...WHAT IS SUZY SUPPOSED TO THINK AND FEEL? 😗
Thankyou Lila, this is the best take I've heard yet. Everyone should listen to the interview with Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson and Denise Boggs. Denise being a family friend and counsellor, she confirms the testimony that Pete never completed forensic investigations or counseling.
Thank you for taking the high road, Lila. When I’ve listened to you in the past, I’ve found you to be kind and fair. It’s disheartening that so many “Christians” are jumping to conclusions and disparaging many individuals in the process. None of us knows all the facts.
Leave all those other things that we cannot substantiate. But the fact that Joni married the husband of a friend to the ministry, who has been a blessing to her and the ministry for ages, tells you what you need to know about her. She has no girl code.
@@felliesweetie We don’t know all the facts about that either. We (particularly Christians) have got to stop judging and disparaging others on social media. Damning rhetoric is not only a poor witness, it’s terrible for society in general.
The family has alot of issues. But either the "Pete" character was alone with her, or he wasn't. It just has to be investigated. Jonathan and suzie haven't pursuaded me any more than Joni has. And her daughter saying it was a man taller than Daddy, but not just saying it was uncle so and so is puzzling to me. Unless she did i.d. him by name and I missed that. But everyone's frothing at the mouth. It seems to me we should just leave it to the police. Other than that I think the whole family are too corporate minded with each other. It's shallow.
During her show she led the audience to believe Jonathan was fired because he did a poor job at the network, but all the audio recordings clearly show he was fired for not submitting to her. They never brought up job performance outside of his refusal to submit based on his own convictions as a grown man and a Christian.
I remember how Joni praised Jonathan on Table Talk and Ministry Now. One time she shared how even as a child Jonathan was studious and very obedient. I see Jonathan as a young man with a strong character. One day I believe that Jonathan will be in spiritual leadership. Right now I think he’s learning valuable lessons for his future role.
@@Graacie1111 did you listen to the audio with Joni, Jimmy Evans, and Suzy and Jonathon? Not at all healthy communication. 🤦🏻♀️ Some pretty disgusting things came out of both Joni's and Jimmy's mouths. 🤦🏻♀️
Yes. We are to expose evil! Leaders are held to much higher standard. The culture of secrecy and shame is the reason there is rampant, unbridled abuses, with no consequences. Evil and unscriptural
Yes, her interview with Denise Boggs really sheds so much light on what really happened with the molestation and how it was covered up and actually completely left unfinished in terms of investigation. Suzy and Jonathan were lied to by Marcus and Joni,whom said it was completed and Joshua Brown was innocent. They have reopened the case with the police now involved again! Joni wants to bury this in order to keep the Daystar millions flowing in! So disgusting and aweful!😠😫🙏
@@Jade_902I saw it and she wasn't the actual professional counselor she's a family friend but she was very cautious and what she said and how she said it and just by her demeanor you could tell she was telling the truth she really didn't even want to spill the beans on her friends but they're all her friends and she just wants the truth to come out and I believe Jonathan and Susie
@@Jade_902she did not gossip...she only spoke the truth...and the reporter was part of Daystar and pulled her program and separated from Daystar last week based on all of this cover up that was exposed. I think the goal here is to expose evil and bring justice to this little girl, is it not?
Rebecca & her husband warned Suzy & Jonathan to KEEP THEIR DAUGHTER AWAY FROM "PETE". PETE IS NOT ALLOWED OVER TO THEIR HOUSES. PETE WAS SEEN KISSING THEIR DAUGHTER AND HANDS ALL OVER HER AT ANOTHER OCCASION. JONI'S VERSION IS COMPLETELY FALSE!
Because Johnathan and Susie Lamb wouldn't read a note from a viewer who congratulated Joni on her new marriage and the reason Johnathan and Susie wouldn't read it because they didn't want to give the impression that they condone the marriage and the reason they don't condone his mother's new marriage is because, they believed their mother and her new husband are living in adultery because after Joni's first husband died her new husband after a short time later, divorced his wife with no biblically reason.
and Joni has texts from Suzy being all excited for Doug and Joni dating. it went sideways when she wanted Doug on her program and J & S were threatened by that.
Doug Weis’s ex wife needs to speak up and tell her side of the divorce. From what Jonathan said the timing looks terrible. Doug divorced his wife 2 months after Joni’s husband died.😮 Doug was married for about 30 years, was a marriage/sex therapist… His wife is a believer & didn’t want the divorce. No adultery took place. This by itself (if it’s true) goes against scripture. His ex wife and he still work together! This is all so crazy! The SA is the worst part but it’s all such a mess… So sad! The truth needs to be exposed! Thanks for the reporting.🙏
Plus Doug and Lisa were friends of Marcus and Joni, counseling them when their marriage was a mess. So Doug had inside info on Joni’s marital issues with Marcus. After Marcus died, Doug made his move, after (?) dumping Lisa….
Joni knows she is lying.Her friends were programmed this is evil and the ladies colour you should refuse to be used against one of your own,Suzy.This is 😈 you should repent 😢
Yes, I watched this interview, people should see this it was covered by Laura Lynn Thompson. Something very interesting that Denise Boggs shared is "Pete"Joshua Brown tried asked her to clear his innocence but he was refusing to continue counseling sessions with Debbie Lyonhart. Denise Boggs couldn't clear him because she is not certified to. He's definitely guilty. Please also see Marcus Rogers, Ohio For Freedom and Laura Lynn Thompson who cover the storywith truth on RUclips.
I cannot justify any in my heart why Joni needs 2 Multi million dollar houses on the same street and she owns a Lake House in Texas, plus She and Doug are building another 4 million dollar home. Let's not stop there they own a jet. All that money came from Daystar. This is all public information from the local county offices that you can look up on line. You see they are the owners so their salary is determined by themselves. I think that is miss use of the money that hard working people have donated.
You do have to discern and ask the Lord who to give money to but I truly think that money given is to the Lord and it’s on them after that. The Lord knows our hearts in giving. He will deal accordingly. :)
Usually a very young child does not lie about an experience like this. Older children may, and yet very young ones like this usually are very truthful. As a retired teacher, I was expected and rightfully so to report to children’s services any suspicions of such a thing like this occurring to one of my students. This in my opinion should’ve been done immediately. We are here to protect children and their welfare needs to be the priority.
The recorded meeting of Joni and Jimmy Evans browbeating, gas lighting, and spiritually abusing Jonathan and Suzy exposed the true nature of these Daystar "leaders." There is so much that is wrong with this wicked story that it's hard to know where to begin. (The word "submit" was used over 90 times in 90 minutes during the meeting.)
Thumbs down on Joani’s Explanation 🤮. Thumbs up On Suzy , Johnathan and the precious child’s 🙏✝️🩸💕Explanation. The Johnathan Lamb family Wii received their crown. 👑
Joni lied lots when she was grooming Suzy to be Matriarch of show one day. When her other kids would call her she would LIE about where she was so they wouldn't be jealous!
Yeah ok but its not politcially incorrect for western governments to bomb kill maim and destroy Muslims but now you wanna act like muslim life is respected at all to make a factually incorrect and inane dig at Islam in the midst of a very Christian scandal and no islam is about submission to GOD not other human beings. Human beings especially kin deserve respect and love but not submission 🙄@heartlights
Joni has so many different stories 1 she said that her son was upset because he wanted to be president, 2 because he would not submit to authority and read the partners comments about doug,3 he was not doing his job right .and if Pete was in the room with his baby and nephew why did joni and Rachel say this from the beginning.
Didn't an employee of Daystar get fired for Whistlebloweing that Joni's father was sexually harassing her? Wasnt there a couple cases of Marcus' sexual advancements toward employees? Didn't Marcus have affairs?
The latest Table Talk wiith Joni and friends seemed planned.... Didnt Joni have Jonathans 5 yr old daughter come to her, and after Joni talked with her, she was shutdown wouldnt talk about anything!
"Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed upon the housetops." - Jesus Christ, The Holy Gospel according to Saint Luke (12:2-3)
@LilaRose Add to all of this chaos the fact that they all attended Gateway church in Southlake, the main campus, near DayStar HQ, near where the Lambs live. Josh was on their praise team as a musician but he was let go and lots of parents sent emails to the church staff they were concerned about Josh and they were assured Josh was not teaching or serving in the children’s ministry. Sr. pastor Robert a morris was charged with SA also and he was let go from that church. This is turning out to be huge because Jimmy Evan’s attended there also and he left. Of course, this is all allegedly and in my opinion because I live here. Volunteered 2 weeks at Daystar to help with telethon, that’s a whole nother story. I trust Jonathan and Suzy.
Josh Brown comes from the same small circle that Joel Davis of Ascend The Hill comes from. Joel Davis is currently serving a prison sentence for very serious abuses of very small children (one of his victims was the same age as the daughter of Jonathan and Suzy).
I am so satisfied listening to your commentary! You are so speaking my mind where it feels like everybody else is just picking sides when it's not apparent yet. I knew I wasn't crazy with my thoughts and now I can just sit back and wait for the answer but also like you say we should be praying!
I feel that way too. Hopefully an investigation will just take place on behalf of the child, independent of all these Dynasty/Dallas characters. 😊 These accounts of things sound shaky at best.
Since the day Joni announced her engagement to Doug Weiss, I knew it was over for Daystar. And stopped watching Daystar the day Doug sat on Marcu’s chair at Ministry Now. That spot was supposed to be for Jonathan or his siblings, not Doug.
Prayers for the child. I can't comprehend how ANY PERSON could try to cover up ANY inappropriate actions or POSSIBLE inappropriate actions against a child, especially your own Grandchild or child! Why in the world has it taken several years to bring to the surface?!? I've read the reports & the child didn't talk about it after meeting w/Joni, but the parents suspected a lot was happening. Joni states in one of her interviews that when Suzi suspected sexual abuse had occurred at the child's school, Suzi asked Joni to go to the school w/her to meet w/teachers. Why did Suzi ask Joni to go w/her to school, my husband & I would have been at that school together to try to get answers! There's so much misinformation or missing info being told (I fully understand every detail can't be revealed during an active investigation), but so much info from Joni, as well as Suzi & Jonathan, leaves so many questions. As a parent & Grandparent, if I had even suspected ANY LEVEL of inappropriate activity taking place with one of my children or Grandchildren, I'd be screaming so loudly & seeking to get to the truth, there'd be no delay in bringing this to the attention of authorities. Listening to Joni's statements truly seem to try to put the focus on her son, not on getting to the truth of the issues about child abuse. Joni is covering up a lot of things. May God bring swift justice to EVERY SINGLE PERSON involved in ANY level of cover-up or abuse to this innocent child. No matter what the role is/was at Daystar, anyone involved in ANY level of cover-up or involvement has brought harm to this child & should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. May God bring healing for this child & her family. Everything done in the dark will be brought to the light... God's word doesn't lie. 🙏✝️🙏
Two things… stop sending Daystar money until 3rd party investigates & Rebecca Weiss needs to stop posting videos of her Christmas shopping & do the right thing. Do.the.right.thing like the counselor did. How can you live with yourself!?!
@@GypsyGirl317 She should state publicly that she won't allow him near her children and that she witnessed inappropriate touching and kissing of the little girl early in the sequence of events (2020).
I believe what Johnathon and Suzy have been sharing. Also, Susie had shared, and Miss Denise had shared this ,as well , that ,Lisa , Doug‘s wife , begged him not to divorce her.
There's no excuse for covering up child sexual abuse ....and it will clearly.shpw in the days ahead, it was swept under the rug . NO EXCUSE. CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT AND NEED TO BE PROTECTED AT ALL COST.
The real issue is the molestation. Joni keeps telling Suzy to disregard the things happening. Rebecca keeps her kids far away from Joshua Brown. Rebecca Brown is being told its all Suzy by Joni. Suzy listened tried to obey & submit to Joni a spiritual leader. But her mother instinct is too strong & now after talking to others Suzy & Jonathan are seeing the manipulation of Joni for what it is.
@@ReadingforRest4711 no, Rachel Lamb is married to Joshua Brown. Doug Weiss is Joni's current husband. Rebecca is Rachel and Jonathon's other sister married to Jonathan Weiss and she will not allow Joshua Brown around her own children, for good reasons. Marcus and Joni covered things up early on, and Joni and Doug still are covering some things up. Jimmy Evans is complicit in the coverup as well.
@@Karan-th8td Rachel Brown (née Lamb) is married to Joshua Brown. Rebecca Lamb is married to Jonathan Weiss, and they will not allow Joshua ("Pete") around their children either.
Joni made the statement she would not change anything about that meeting with Jimmy Evans, Jonathan and Suzy. That shows she cares for no one but herself.
Thank you for reporting this story accurately and unbiasedly. Tragic situation but like you said, as a huge “Christian” network, it’s so important to pay attention to it.
Joni owe it to the Christian community to come out and address every single issue raised by J and S. Especially around the serious charge of SA of the lil girl. Because she's gone into full smear mode of J+S without answering the serious questions, I makes her look like she has something to hide.
She won’t. She’s had every opportunity to just admit what she’s done. Instead as the Bible says, A foolish woman tears down her house with her own hands.
And this whole thing with her husband and having to validate it 10,000 times that means you know in your heart it wasn't alright but you wanted to do it anyway
she did. she did another video with her panel of ladies letting them ask questions. she addressed all of it. It's called "If you only knew the whole story" or something similar.
Everyone was upset about Joni s marriage to Doug Wiess, because he is a wolf in sheeps clothing, and everyone knew he would hurt Daystar, and the family.
Don’t forget Joni had a conversation with the girl, just the 2 of them. Perhaps the reason the girl isn’t naming the man is because Joni got in her head one way or another. Sad nonetheless.
And don't forget, as Lila reported, Joni Lamb said yesterday on her own Daystar program that she Does Not Regret Anything that she said on that recording...so cursing, telling her daughter in law "You Are Evil, Suzy!" 🤔🤔🤔
Thank you Lila Rose for speaking to this issue going on at Daystar. I watched the episode where you aired, talking about abortion and instantly liked you so much, so for you to speak into this without bias is commendable.
LilaRose, for everyone who believes the lie and manipulation line about how we should not judge, Christians just love that line don't they. I have this to say, we must judge, we are called to judge Righteously read John 7:24.
If you believed that a person was molesting your child why would you let them around your child? If the daughter had claimed to be molested why wasn't she examined? If they were warned.about Pete why did they let her around him?
Thank you so much for breaking down the time line of the information on the incidents with Pete. On others covering this story I have been confused and trying to figure the story out and actually left me questioning the situation. This was so helpful. I wish Johnathan and Suzie would share their story on platforms that are covering the story as well as you are. They have chosen some platforms at this point that do nothing but gossip and bash ministries.
It’s clear that this story is new to your viewers. You all really need to listen to the audio Lila mentioned. The son in law they’re calling Pete refused to be interviewed and Joni and her husband Marcus told Susie and Jonathan the investigation proved “Pete” was innocent. Also Joni told them that God told her that “Pete” was innocent. Joni’s family was not happy that Joni married Doug. Jonathan got the worst because he and his wife refused to read a positive comment about Doug and Joni’s marriage. True friends of Joni’s told her to slow down with Doug because her children were not in agreement and they really hadn’t had a chance to grieve the loss of their father. Joni stopped taking calls from those friends and reached out to Jimmy Evans to help her justify this marriage. Jimmy, wanting to please Joni set up this surprise meeting with Jonathan and his wife. Thankfully Jonathan secretly recorded the meeting or we would’ve never known what kind of man Jimmy Evans is!! Jimmy was trying to force Jonathan and his wife to accept the new husband. Joni’s friends warned her that Doug was a snake. He was counseling couples and telling them he had a healthy marriage and sex life but he was actually divorced for 9 months! If you listen to Joni, notice how she’s constantly saying Jimmy Evans told me… Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans. The reason she’s saying his name is because when this marriage falls apart she’s going to say Jimmy Evans told me… Jimmy is on the board. He knew about the molestation of Joni’s granddaughter. As a pastor and a professional he had a responsibility to report it to law enforcement. He didn’t! You all REALLY need to listen to the audio recording!!!
Jonathan and Suzy are grown adults and parents responsible for the well-being of their child. If the allegations were as bad as they stated, they should have immediately called the police and not relied on their parents to oversee the "investigation." Further, they conveniently left out that Joshua was holding his 1-yr old and talking to his older son while the daughter was changing. They have now confirmed that was the truth in their recent interview with the guy named Marcus. See 42:35 of this video: ruclips.net/video/uGFglGSsfzE/видео.htmlsi=RcBdZ4QjiVqoY0YM Now that CPS was called by the counselor, Joshua is being investigated by legal authorities, so why did J and S usurp this investigation and publicly name him before the conclusion of the investigation? On the other side, Rachel and her parents are convinced her husband is not an abuser, and he denied these claims also. So now, it's a he-said she-said because they never called the police after the bedroom incident.
The bedroom incident is explained in 2 very different ways. Without an investigation, it's all he said she said. Suzie & Jonothan haven't persuaded me any more than Joni has. It's possible both sides believe their own understanding of things and aren't intentionally lying.
Gosh as a parent if I had any inkling of creepiness why on Earth would you go to another overnight gathering with the creep? I would keep my children in the same room with me and eyes on all the time. A mother’s intuition is better than any forensic investigation.
Why aren’t the sisters backing up their brother and their niece! Because they know it’s true and they don’t wanna lose their job and make their mother angry! That is so shameful. That is not Christlike. Shame on you lamb sisters.
Johnathan has always known he would not become the president of Daystar as long as his mother is living. Joni and Daystar are using that narrative that he was disappointed with not having the position. Also, in the tape message, Jonathan stated that he had never had a bad review or been disciplined for any wrongdoing on his job and had never been written up and that he had always respected Joni. Joni and Daystar are now stating that Jonathan was a bad employee.
Johnathon was spiritually abused by his mother. He then believed his father and mother when they stated that they did an internal investigation on “Pete” but they lied. So now that he is no longer in her power he is able to gather information and he was validated that what he assumed as abuse truly was. So it wasn’t that he wanted the position because if he did he would of just made the statement on their show. Johnathon had always been a good son. So it is Joni lamb that’s the issue and the liar.
According to biblical passages, particularly Luke 12:2-3 and Luke 8:17, Mark 4:22 “what is in the darkness” refers to secrets, hidden actions, and concealed intentions. The verse promises that these will be “brought into the light” or “revealed” in due time.
So in other words Marcus and Joni lied yeah that really looks good that right there tells you all you need to know I also heard a recording of Susie just crying her heart out to a friend because Joanie didn't respect their boundaries with her home and her kids and came on over anyway no I think Joe needs a horrible person and that man she married is a real creep
It wasn't Johathan who objected, it was Suzy who felt uncomfortable reading praise of the marriage. J&S' s daughter said the person was taller than dad. Joni claims it was a little boy at the school which is slandering the school that has no men working there.
💯 so true! Joni lied big time repeatedly on her PR damage control panel discussion with her fake and paid off women asking her side of the story. What a joke!
Oops there were 2 different situations with the child. One at school with a little boy and one at the beach house. 2 different situations. Yes Laura got a scoop. I’m not so sure she have shared that. Couldn’t she lose her license too?
@@dorothywillms115 There was no abuse at school; it was speculated by Suzy that her little girl had been abused either at school or Daystar when she learned from her young daughter in November 2020 that someone had placed their fingers in her genital area. When Suzy learned there was no adult male working at the school by a process of elimination it was someone at Daystar. Other incidents then pointed to the perp.
Are there any proof of abuse and covering up? At this time no one knows exactly what happened - so let us pray and wait for documentation. It is not fair to paint this all over the internet without proof of these actions. Let us guard our mouths and own behavior.
Because there has to be a fall guy to take the blame. His name will eventually be 30:2, to do it now would make a hotter fire on Joni. She is buying time while she makes her next move. She chose her flesh and blood to take throw under the bus while she plans how to keep her money. Judgement day is coming SOON and she can't take her empire with her. It broke my heart for Jonathan to have to have to hear his mother say to millions of people that he was doing a smear campaign.
The journalists used the pseudo name “Pete” because formal charges have not been brought against Joshua Brown, Rachel Lamb Brown’s husband. This is an attempt to protect the identity of the man accused of molesting the little girl.
Joni is tracking, following, investigating, photographing, serving papers to, and firing the wrong guy.........instead of Jonathan it should be whoever hurt the little girl...I think they said it was Pete?
If it is true that just prior to Marcus' death, Johnathan was removed from succeeding Marcus, and Joni was installed. Then shortly afterwards, Marcus dies unexpectedly. The next curious event two months following Marcus death, their personal sex therapist, who frequented daystar ministry, and was a friend, immediately files for divorce from his wife, who he had continually affirmed as a great wife. Consequently, Joni and her late husband's therapist and friend immediately start dating!!! Somebody autopsy Marcus!
The only evidence that needs to be heard is a forensic evaluation of the child independently done by the police only. Until then it will be a she said, he said situation which leads to nowhere! A possible accusation of coaching of the child is coming so beware! Please protect yourself because the battle will be tough, ugly, and unmerciful! Child protective service may be called and they are a double edge sword; Get an advance on them by taking independent psychological evaluations yourself and not be overly emotional in your dealing because they will use anything against you; please rule out any mental health accusation that will eventually be made ; remember the chilling words of J? ( that the mother of the child was getting angrier and angrier at a random man at the grocery store and was accusing the man?) I’m persuaded she has many stories such as this. Her lawyers may build a case of mental health and or spite against the parent. Any past, present behaviors or statement by the parent will be scrutinized by the legal system and their lawyers! So hopefully the father of the child’s motive aren’t intertwined with vengeance! I suggest that the couple stopped talking to journalists and bloggers altogether unless be directed to do so by an attorney! I doubt an attorney will allow it because a child’s intimacy and privacy is also at stake. Please run anything by an experienced sexual abuse attorney! The custody of your child is at stake; if in anyway the judge suspects coaching or undue influence of the child from a report done on the child, by child protective service, or police the child will be removed for safety concerns pending a mental health evaluation on all parties! Please get two legal counsel immediately if the parent haven’t done so already. One sexual abuse attorney and the other an attorney specialized in employment law and defamation. I saw them on random blogs and channels just talking and talking 😔, remember the privacy of the child will also be evaluated by Cps or judge. If the parents display an appearance of not protecting the child even in her privacy it can be look down and frown by the court; J. is a relative of the child and may have a leg up if mistakes are made and she may claim custody! Any judge will be more likely to give her custody if she appears more stable and passed the forensic evaluation. Think about it! All that to say that this couple needs to be wisdom minded, very strategic in every move they make. Yes this is emotional but again if the wolves can hide abuse they can also build a case against the parent for removal of the child! There are way too many victims parents or mothers that have been labeled paranoiac, overly fearful and anxious, or been diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder or even revengeful by the big wolves and or a court ordered psychological evaluator; the little people get crushed many time! This couple needs professional counsel and be careful and wise as serpent!
I thought of this scenario, too. But I doubt if Doug would want to start off his new marriage by raising Joni's grandchildren. But if vengeance takes over, J and S better get wise counsel from God each day and probably lawyer up w/ the best they can get. I'm praying that righteousness, truth, justice and peace will prevail over all of this debacle.
Joni get custody?? You are smokin' crack for even thinking that. Their kid is not going to be taken from them. You have know idea what you are talking about.
@ I wrote in “ may be” “ could happen” May happen” is a suggestion I’m not smoking anything but you are may be under the influence of something strong and delusional to think that this couple’s mental health or background past statement and behaviors or even their public display of private informations of their child won’t be scrutinized by powerful attorneys from the network. This story can turn into a nasty battle as far as questioning the fitness of the parent. I’m in the legal field without entering into much details and I dealt first hand with this type of situation. I’m urging for protection and shielding themselves from unnecessary hurdles that may emphasis on “ may” come and bite them especially if they are also suing the network. Instead of giving them your weak support of display of outrage please add also informed and loving advice in looking at all aspect of the situation good or bad! We are praying for the best but again the devil run around seeking whom he may devour. Jesus said to sit down and count the cost of battle. This a spiritual battle but also a highly publicized legal case where reputation of the network is on the line. They won’t stop at nothing! Good luck on your delusion!
@@Yvesun2011 I would like to get in touch with you. My granddaughter at 5 was molested by her father & we are in a long custody case. My granddaughter froze at her forensic interview & was too afraid to say anything, but she had already reported to female family members, a counselor, and her occupational therapist, who did file CPS reports.
If Joni really believed her new marriage was "right", she wouldn't need to shove it down her children's throats. She is very controlling. Now she's losing control, and it's driving her crazy.
Yes, I this clearly ,you are right!
100% Correct!
I agree, if you know in your heart and hsve peace that GOD, not jimmy evans, approved your marriage, then you care less what any human says about it.
This says it all
Susie and Johnathan were in favor of the marriage, excited and thought it was a great idea until they found out that Doug would be hosting with Joni.
Crimes against humanity! We need to protect the children.
the Word ....Millstone keeps coming to me, and that would be terrifying to me.😮
Joni had a lot to say but funny she had nothing to say about putting tracking devices on their cars and having private investigators following them and photographing them. Please explain that, Joni. Is that normal for employees?
Did she explain NDAs?
So bad J&S had to leave the state of Texas to go into hiding. Allegedly, my opinion.
She’s untrustworthy and mind controlling that’s a Jezebel spirit
Yes they have trackers on the employees cars
I would, too, if I were innocent. I'd do what I had to do to prove it and protect everything I worked for. Abuse has not been proven to me. Take it to court, Joni. Let a jury who hear all the facts decide. Fire that kid of yours. Write him out if your will immediately.
Never hire your kids in your business. 99% of the time, it's a mistake.
Denise Boggs would not lie about what truly happened and her story lined up with Suzy’s !!
Truth!!!! Is she siding with Daystar? Did she investigate?
Joni had her response show to address the thing said she had a different demeanor than what Joni and Jimmy were speaking Lucipherian Ideology , Pete is a preditor and Rachel acts like a jealous lover over a small child , sick, rachel and pete need to be jailed. JONI and Jimmy step out of ministry your both evil
@@neciedenshe was the family counselor during all of this and knows the entire story and shared what happened on another podcast and said exactly what Suzy said happened is the truth
Marcus & Joni lied & told Jonathan and Suzy and the family the "investigation" investigation cleared Pete Joshua. They also cut off Jonathan & Suzy from the Investigators Denise & a forensics investigator. Denise went on a podcast and said that was not true. It did not clear Pete Joshua. It ended because Pete Joshua would not participate & refused to answers any questions so they had to end the investigation. Pete Joshua was not cleared at all.
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About submitting to your employer: I am a retired Torah observant believer who has worked for different companies over the years. My religious convictions are such that I will not work on Saturdays and other holy days specified in the Bible. I am so, so thankful that none of my employers EVER demanded that I forego my convictions and work on Saturdays "or else." So yes, when Jonathan and Suzie refused to read the viewer comment praising Joni and Doug's marriage due to the questionable circumstances and their conviction that it wasn't a Biblically-sanctioned marriage, a kind employer would have acquiesced and asked someone else to read the viewer comment. We should always show respect for the convictions of others.
Bingo!
They weren’t upset because the man had a divorce in his past. The guy left his wife that did nothing wrong for Joni. That is the issue. That is why they are not at peace with the situation
Praying for this little girl 😢
Me too.❤
There is a video on You Tube where Denise Boggs (the close family counselor) explains what she was told by all members of the family that she talked to after the incident. After her counsel she referred them to Debbie Lyonhart who is a certified counselor to talk to them and counsel them. After Pete and his wife went to counseling Pete refused to return and did not talk when they were there at counseling. It is imperative you watch the video! These 2 counselors have nothing to gain by telling the truth but Joni has everything to loose if she is unmasked.
Yep!!! Joni is most definitely lying !!
Yes. Must watch!
Anyone splitting up a family to marry what appears as "the love of her life" will lie.
Joni covered up her own father's sexual abuse of a female employee that was working under him in Daystar. She even fired the woman. The victim's lawyer had a meeting with Daystar lawyer to see what was the reason his client was fired. Then Marcus 7yr affairs was exposed 💯
Don't forget she's a television personality AKA actress
Yeshua brings all things to light amen.
She’s is being disingenuous
Joni's lying because her & Marcus SHUT DOWN ANY INVESTIGATION BUT LEAD THEM TO BELIEVE THERE WAS ONE DONE!
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Marcus’ millions aren’t helping him now. I wish he had been unmasked on earth first. I hate it when people aren’t revealed until after their death.
Also, just based on her non verbal communication, she was lying about when Josh entered the room where Jonathan and Suzy's baby was changing. And other things. I would love to see her questioned by a professional.
@@heartlights Also people should watch Johnathan and Suzy's interview by Marcus Rogers.
I think she/ Joni, shut down the investigation because Joni said she heard a voice from God telling her "Pete" was innocent.
I believe Jonathan and Suzy. Children don't lie. Prayers for Jonathan and Suzy 🙏🙏🙏
Parents do lie, though.
Children lie all the time; it's possible they are not doing so in this scenario.
@@rachybaby72 There are 3rd party witnesses of inappropriate behaviour (stroking and kissing the child by the perp) and stalking of the child by the perp -- by her aunt and her nanny. And there are other victims of the perp. But they need to come forward.
Chilldren lie every day. That is why we, as parents, must teach them the consept of truth. Regardlless we must pray and love all of the Lamb-family. Every indivual.
@@kerstiZweidorffDokken The childish lying you're talking about is Very Different from a 5 year old girl saying "a boy taller than Daddy touched me under my skirt"!
There's an actual abuse report, Joni. You can't make that go away.
Both police investigations came up with zero charges
@@marinagallant1847 That isn't true at all. The investigation is still ongoing.
This is the most level-headed reporting I’ve seen on this matter. Well done!
Thank you!
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No lie or flattery. You covered everything-faith, family, social dynamics, and the tragedies of family discord, spiritual bullying, and (of course) abuse. You even used your own experience and perception from being on DayStar. Above all, you understand the difference between allegations and known abuses in scandals.
This episode was truly impressive.
Suzy and Jonathan are liars. They are using a fake "SA" to get back at their mother, Joni for challenging the presidency
I pray for Joni and Daystar
I believe every single word Suzy and Johnathon and their daughter have spoke. Every word !!!!!!!
Child abuse should never be handled internally. For family to handle it, especially grandparents, that way is total betrayal. I am so sorry Jonathan and Suzi had to go through that from the people we trust most. I will pray for their family. Daystar need to come clean and repent for what has happened. The child abuse should be the priority and keep Pete away from all children. ✝️✝️🙏
Joshua Brown should be arrested, to answer questions , he has not been cleared as of yet. thats crazy
I believe Jonathan andd Suzi. 100%
Me as well!
Real LOVE isnt what one says..its what one does.😮❤
I think Suzie is NOT being entirely truthful. She is likely embellishing her story because she was fired and decided to burn the house down on her way out. Hope she doesn't drive Jonathan off the Cliff 😮
@@JeannieMitchellMyers I listened carefully to SUZIE. She is NOT being entirely Truthful. Why didn't she raise these arguments of about child abuse until she was fired? I read her account of what her child told her about the alleged abuse. Is that NOT Completely different from what Suzie is saying now?
@christieprince6991 her dgtr told her she was molested at 5 yrs old and demonstrated to her how it was done at 5 yrs old...WHAT IS SUZY SUPPOSED TO THINK AND FEEL? 😗
Thankyou Lila, this is the best take I've heard yet. Everyone should listen to the interview with Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson and Denise Boggs. Denise being a family friend and counsellor, she confirms the testimony that Pete never completed forensic investigations or counseling.
Thank you for taking the high road, Lila. When I’ve listened to you in the past, I’ve found you to be kind and fair. It’s disheartening that so many “Christians” are jumping to conclusions and disparaging many individuals in the process. None of us knows all the facts.
Leave all those other things that we cannot substantiate. But the fact that Joni married the husband of a friend to the ministry, who has been a blessing to her and the ministry for ages, tells you what you need to know about her. She has no girl code.
@@felliesweetie We don’t know all the facts about that either. We (particularly Christians) have got to stop judging and disparaging others on social media. Damning rhetoric is not only a poor witness, it’s terrible for society in general.
The family has alot of issues. But either the "Pete" character was alone with her, or he wasn't. It just has to be investigated. Jonathan and suzie haven't pursuaded me any more than Joni has. And her daughter saying it was a man taller than Daddy, but not just saying it was uncle so and so is puzzling to me. Unless she did i.d. him by name and I missed that.
But everyone's frothing at the mouth. It seems to me we should just leave it to the police.
Other than that I think the whole family are too corporate minded with each other. It's shallow.
Amen
@@felliesweetieand Doug’s divorce wasn’t in his past, IT WAS IN HIS present
During her show she led the audience to believe Jonathan was fired because he did a poor job at the network, but all the audio recordings clearly show he was fired for not submitting to her. They never brought up job performance outside of his refusal to submit based on his own convictions as a grown man and a Christian.
She's so dishonest
I remember how Joni praised Jonathan on Table Talk and Ministry Now. One time she shared how even as a child Jonathan was studious and very obedient. I see Jonathan as a young man with a strong character. One day I believe that Jonathan will be in spiritual leadership. Right now I think he’s learning valuable lessons for his future role.
@@ColleenKelley-fp4fd Wow…that makes this all the more heartbreaking
All Joni has to do is have an independent investigation and let the truth be what it is. The Doug fiasco is bad enough, but the SA is sickening.
exactly this. Everyone is getting caught up in all the other details, but this is what really matters.
I agree...child abuse has to be stopped! If it's not reported there I no hope.
The "voice of God" sure has a potty mouth. Isn't there something about that in the Bible?
Yup😊
Because she said shit? Big Deal
@@loriolson1143 James 3:10 out of the same mouth cometh forth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
@@Graacie1111 did you listen to the audio with Joni, Jimmy Evans, and Suzy and Jonathon?
Not at all healthy communication. 🤦🏻♀️
Some pretty disgusting things came out of both Joni's and Jimmy's mouths. 🤦🏻♀️
Yes. We are to expose evil! Leaders are held to much higher standard. The culture of secrecy and shame is the reason there is rampant, unbridled abuses, with no consequences. Evil and unscriptural
Laura Lynn Thompson has a 90 min interview first hand witness family counselor. Must watch important info.
@sabine3769 so a family counselor is on a gossip channel spilling the tea? 😮
Yes, her interview with Denise Boggs really sheds so much light on what really happened with the molestation and how it was covered up and actually completely left unfinished in terms of investigation. Suzy and Jonathan were lied to by Marcus and Joni,whom said it was completed and Joshua Brown was innocent. They have reopened the case with the police now involved again! Joni wants to bury this in order to keep the Daystar millions flowing in! So disgusting and aweful!😠😫🙏
What is that to you?
And anyone who consistently tells the truth has nothing to fear. @jade..902
@@Jade_902I saw it and she wasn't the actual professional counselor she's a family friend but she was very cautious and what she said and how she said it and just by her demeanor you could tell she was telling the truth she really didn't even want to spill the beans on her friends but they're all her friends and she just wants the truth to come out and I believe Jonathan and Susie
@@Jade_902she did not gossip...she only spoke the truth...and the reporter was part of Daystar and pulled her program and separated from Daystar last week based on all of this cover up that was exposed. I think the goal here is to expose evil and bring justice to this little girl, is it not?
Joni married her sister (in Christ) husband and since has been out for vengeance to anyone who does not agree.
Rebecca & her husband warned Suzy & Jonathan to KEEP THEIR DAUGHTER AWAY FROM "PETE". PETE IS NOT ALLOWED OVER TO THEIR HOUSES. PETE WAS SEEN KISSING THEIR DAUGHTER AND HANDS ALL OVER HER AT ANOTHER OCCASION. JONI'S VERSION IS COMPLETELY FALSE!
Yet everyone is saying Pete is Rebecca husband.
No, Rachel's husband.
@@byronpayne4824no. Racheal’s husband
Is Pete Rachel husband??
@@sarahricci895Yes
Because Johnathan and Susie Lamb wouldn't read a note from a viewer who congratulated Joni on her new marriage and the reason Johnathan and Susie wouldn't read it because they didn't want to give the impression that they condone the marriage and the reason they don't condone his mother's new marriage is because, they believed their mother and her new husband are living in adultery because after Joni's first husband died her new husband after a short time later, divorced his wife with no biblically reason.
and Joni has texts from Suzy being all excited for Doug and Joni dating. it went sideways when she wanted Doug on her program and J & S were threatened by that.
@@deejay7759Absolutely correct!! Suzy is a snake
Doug Weis’s ex wife needs to speak up and tell her side of the divorce. From what Jonathan said the timing looks terrible. Doug divorced his wife 2 months after Joni’s husband died.😮 Doug was married for about 30 years, was a marriage/sex therapist… His wife is a believer & didn’t want the divorce. No adultery took place. This by itself (if it’s true) goes against scripture. His ex wife and he still work together! This is all so crazy! The SA is the worst part but it’s all such a mess… So sad! The truth needs to be exposed! Thanks for the reporting.🙏
Plus Doug and Lisa were friends of Marcus and Joni, counseling them when their marriage was a mess. So Doug had inside info on Joni’s marital issues with Marcus. After Marcus died, Doug made his move, after (?) dumping Lisa….
@ Unreal 😲 wow. Poor Lisa!!
They need to be fully investigated. They're like a CULT.
YES, Cultic
Joni knows she is lying.Her friends were programmed this is evil and the ladies colour you should refuse to be used against one of your own,Suzy.This is 😈 you should repent 😢
Yes, I watched this interview, people should see this it was covered by Laura Lynn Thompson. Something very interesting that Denise Boggs shared is "Pete"Joshua Brown tried asked her to clear his innocence but he was refusing to continue counseling sessions with Debbie Lyonhart. Denise Boggs couldn't clear him because she is not certified to. He's definitely guilty. Please also see Marcus Rogers, Ohio For Freedom and Laura Lynn Thompson who cover the storywith truth on RUclips.
Don’t send them money, they have conned people out of far too much in the name of God. Pray for this whole pathetic bunch.
I cannot justify any in my heart why Joni needs 2 Multi million dollar houses on the same street and she owns a Lake House in Texas, plus She and Doug are building another 4 million dollar home. Let's not stop there they own a jet. All that money came from Daystar. This is all public information from the local county offices that you can look up on line. You see they are the owners so their salary is determined by themselves. I think that is miss use of the money that hard working people have donated.
You do have to discern and ask the Lord who to give money to but I truly think that money given is to the Lord and it’s on them after that. The Lord knows our hearts in giving. He will deal accordingly. :)
The full audio says it all. Spiritual abuse, nothing less. And Joni’s language was absolutely crass. Allegedly.
Usually a very young child does not lie about an experience like this. Older children may, and yet very young ones like this usually are very truthful. As a retired teacher, I was expected and rightfully so to report to children’s services any suspicions of such a thing like this occurring to one of my students. This in my opinion should’ve been done immediately. We are here to protect children and their welfare needs to be the priority.
Thank you so much Lila for what you do! My family appreciates you so much ❤!
Thanks for being here!!
A child that young vs a woman who spent decades covering stuff up… not hard to figure out which one is evil.
The recorded meeting of Joni and Jimmy Evans browbeating, gas lighting, and spiritually abusing Jonathan and Suzy exposed the true nature of these Daystar "leaders." There is so much that is wrong with this wicked story that it's hard to know where to begin. (The word "submit" was used over 90 times in 90 minutes during the meeting.)
Thumbs down on Joani’s
Explanation 🤮. Thumbs up
On Suzy , Johnathan and the precious child’s 🙏✝️🩸💕Explanation. The Johnathan Lamb family Wii received their crown. 👑
Jonathan and Suzy are liars
When a child claims they’ve been molested, believe them. End of story.
Joni lied lots when she was grooming Suzy to be Matriarch of show one day. When her other kids would call her she would LIE about where she was so they wouldn't be jealous!
Joni’s acting like a Scientologist!
Daystar + Abuse = 1 Billion dollar coverup
I do realize how politically incorrect it is, but the whole submission thing is ISLAM TO THE CORES.
Yeah ok but its not politcially incorrect for western governments to bomb kill maim and destroy Muslims but now you wanna act like muslim life is respected at all to make a factually incorrect and inane dig at Islam in the midst of a very Christian scandal and no islam is about submission to GOD not other human beings. Human beings especially kin deserve respect and love but not submission 🙄@heartlights
Joni has so many different stories 1 she said that her son was upset because he wanted to be president, 2 because he would not submit to authority and read the partners comments about doug,3 he was not doing his job right .and if Pete was in the room with his baby and nephew why did joni and Rachel say this from the beginning.
Because she's making it up as she goes along.
Joni needs to humble herself before GOD and repent big time. I believe Suzy and Jonathan
Didn't an employee of Daystar get fired for Whistlebloweing that Joni's father was sexually harassing her? Wasnt there a couple cases of Marcus' sexual advancements toward employees? Didn't Marcus have affairs?
Yes .
The latest Table Talk wiith Joni and friends seemed planned....
Didnt Joni have Jonathans 5 yr old daughter come to her, and after Joni talked with her, she was shutdown wouldnt talk about anything!
Yes...true, according to Jonathan and Suzy. Little girl was completely intimidated by Joni and scared to talk after meeting with her alone.
You can see the deception in her eyes. This is what too much power and money will do to an individual when you put that above God
Joni is not telling the truth. It will all come out! God is cleansing His church! 🙏
"Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed upon the housetops."
- Jesus Christ, The Holy Gospel according to Saint Luke (12:2-3)
@LilaRose Add to all of this chaos the fact that they all attended Gateway church in Southlake, the main campus, near DayStar HQ, near where the Lambs live. Josh was on their praise team as a musician but he was let go and lots of parents sent emails to the church staff they were concerned about Josh and they were assured Josh was not teaching or serving in the children’s ministry. Sr. pastor Robert a morris was charged with SA also and he was let go from that church. This is turning out to be huge because Jimmy Evan’s attended there also and he left. Of course, this is all allegedly and in my opinion because I live here. Volunteered 2 weeks at Daystar to help with telethon, that’s a whole nother story. I trust Jonathan and Suzy.
Josh Brown comes from the same small circle that Joel Davis of Ascend The Hill comes from. Joel Davis is currently serving a prison sentence for very serious abuses of very small children (one of his victims was the same age as the daughter of Jonathan and Suzy).
I am so satisfied listening to your commentary! You are so speaking my mind where it feels like everybody else is just picking sides when it's not apparent yet. I knew I wasn't crazy with my thoughts and now I can just sit back and wait for the answer but also like you say we should be praying!
I feel that way too. Hopefully an investigation will just take place on behalf of the child, independent of all these Dynasty/Dallas characters. 😊 These accounts of things sound shaky at best.
Since the day Joni announced her engagement to Doug Weiss, I knew it was over for Daystar. And stopped watching Daystar the day Doug sat on Marcu’s chair at Ministry Now. That spot was supposed to be for Jonathan or his siblings, not Doug.
Thank you, Lila Rose for covering this sad story. May the Lord heal the little babygirl and her parents, Johnathan and Suzy!😢
Daystar needs to close their doors!
Excastly
Amen!
Agreed💯
Prayers for the child. I can't comprehend how ANY PERSON could try to cover up ANY inappropriate actions or POSSIBLE inappropriate actions against a child, especially your own Grandchild or child! Why in the world has it taken several years to bring to the surface?!? I've read the reports & the child didn't talk about it after meeting w/Joni, but the parents suspected a lot was happening. Joni states in one of her interviews that when Suzi suspected sexual abuse had occurred at the child's school, Suzi asked Joni to go to the school w/her to meet w/teachers. Why did Suzi ask Joni to go w/her to school, my husband & I would have been at that school together to try to get answers! There's so much misinformation or missing info being told (I fully understand every detail can't be revealed during an active investigation), but so much info from Joni, as well as Suzi & Jonathan, leaves so many questions. As a parent & Grandparent, if I had even suspected ANY LEVEL of inappropriate activity taking place with one of my children or Grandchildren, I'd be screaming so loudly & seeking to get to the truth, there'd be no delay in bringing this to the attention of authorities. Listening to Joni's statements truly seem to try to put the focus on her son, not on getting to the truth of the issues about child abuse. Joni is covering up a lot of things. May God bring swift justice to EVERY SINGLE PERSON involved in ANY level of cover-up or abuse to this innocent child. No matter what the role is/was at Daystar, anyone involved in ANY level of cover-up or involvement has brought harm to this child & should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. May God bring healing for this child & her family. Everything done in the dark will be brought to the light... God's word doesn't lie.
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Two things… stop sending Daystar money until 3rd party investigates & Rebecca Weiss needs to stop posting videos of her Christmas shopping & do the right thing. Do.the.right.thing like the counselor did. How can you live with yourself!?!
Why are you jumping on Rebecca Weiss?
It's Rachel's husband who is alleged to do bad things.
Rebecca won't allow him around her own children either.
@@GypsyGirl317 Rebecca needs to speak up unless she's also controlled.
Well said, Owl
@@GypsyGirl317 She should state publicly that she won't allow him near her children and that she witnessed inappropriate touching and kissing of the little girl early in the sequence of events (2020).
I believe what Johnathon and Suzy have been sharing. Also, Susie had shared, and Miss Denise had shared this ,as well , that ,Lisa , Doug‘s wife , begged him not to divorce her.
There's no excuse for covering up child sexual abuse ....and it will clearly.shpw in the days ahead, it was swept under the rug . NO EXCUSE. CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT AND NEED TO BE PROTECTED AT ALL COST.
The real issue is the molestation. Joni keeps telling Suzy to disregard the things happening. Rebecca keeps her kids far away from Joshua Brown. Rebecca Brown is being told its all Suzy by Joni. Suzy listened tried to obey & submit to Joni a spiritual leader. But her mother instinct is too strong & now after talking to others Suzy & Jonathan are seeing the manipulation of Joni for what it is.
Who's Rebecca Brown?
You nailed it. 👍🏽
@@ReadingforRest4711 no, Rachel Lamb is married to Joshua Brown.
Doug Weiss is Joni's current husband.
Rebecca is Rachel and Jonathon's other sister married to Jonathan Weiss and she will not allow Joshua Brown around her own children, for good reasons.
Marcus and Joni covered things up early on, and Joni and Doug still are covering some things up.
Jimmy Evans is complicit in the coverup as well.
@@Karan-th8td Rachel Brown (née Lamb) is married to Joshua Brown.
Rebecca Lamb is married to Jonathan Weiss, and they will not allow Joshua ("Pete") around their children either.
@GypsyGirl317 Correct. Thank you.
Notice, in the video Joni is talking to her "fan" club. 😢
Sumbit was said over 60 times
90
Over 90 times.
Submit
Joni made the statement she would not change anything about that meeting with Jimmy Evans, Jonathan and Suzy. That shows she cares for no one but herself.
Thank you for reporting this story accurately and unbiasedly. Tragic situation but like you said, as a huge “Christian” network, it’s so important to pay attention to it.
thank you for covering this.
Joni owe it to the Christian community to come out and address every single issue raised by J and S.
Especially around the serious charge of SA of the lil girl.
Because she's gone into full smear mode of J+S without answering the serious questions, I makes her look like she has something to hide.
She won’t. She’s had every opportunity to just admit what she’s done. Instead as the Bible says, A foolish woman tears down her house with her own hands.
Exactly 💯
She’s not repenting she’s a Jezebel
And this whole thing with her husband and having to validate it 10,000 times that means you know in your heart it wasn't alright but you wanted to do it anyway
she did. she did another video with her panel of ladies letting them ask questions. she addressed all of it. It's called "If you only knew the whole story" or something similar.
Everyone was upset about Joni s marriage to Doug Wiess, because he is a wolf in sheeps clothing, and everyone knew he would hurt Daystar, and the family.
Don’t forget Joni had a conversation with the girl, just the 2 of them. Perhaps the reason the girl isn’t naming the man is because Joni got in her head one way or another. Sad nonetheless.
Why is Joni not cursing talking to daystar how she was behind closed doors in the other interview? I don’t believe a word that comes from her mouth
And don't forget, as Lila reported, Joni Lamb said yesterday on her own Daystar program that she Does Not Regret Anything that she said on that recording...so cursing, telling her daughter in law "You Are Evil, Suzy!" 🤔🤔🤔
Thank you Lila Rose for speaking to this issue going on at Daystar. I watched the episode where you aired, talking about abortion and instantly liked you so much, so for you to speak into this without bias is commendable.
Like all of us, Joni needs a spiritual heart check. Things don’t appear right in her demeanor in my opinion. ❤😊
It thought your analysis of this situation was fair, wise, level-headed, without judgment and godly. Great job.
Little girl is not lying.Sad she was shut down.-
LilaRose, for everyone who believes the lie and manipulation line about how we should not judge, Christians just love that line don't they. I have this to say, we must judge, we are called to judge Righteously read John 7:24.
If you believed that a person was molesting your child why would you let them around your child? If the daughter had claimed to be molested why wasn't she examined? If they were warned.about Pete why did they let her around him?
You would take your Child and leave. But they stayed??? The whole thing is weird
@nardinoo1951 and why hadn't the other people that supposedly warned them said anything to anyone?
Whenever I would look at the show, I got “fake”. Joni was cussing in their private meeting.
She was cursing. I was flabbergasted at her indignant comments and verbiage.
@@shelbybrown6973 The cursing was the least offensive thing she did. She claimed to be the voice of God. Thats crazy wrong.
Thank you so much for breaking down the time line of the information on the incidents with Pete. On others covering this story I have been confused and trying to figure the story out and actually left me questioning the situation. This was so helpful. I wish Johnathan and Suzie would share their story on platforms that are covering the story as well as you are. They have chosen some platforms at this point that do nothing but gossip and bash ministries.
Oh my gosh Lila you have integrity in reporting. You did a tremendous job. I’m thankful you used discernment and wisdom.
Stand w jonathan and susie
It’s clear that this story is new to your viewers.
You all really need to listen to the audio Lila mentioned.
The son in law they’re calling Pete refused to be interviewed and Joni and her husband Marcus told Susie and Jonathan the investigation proved “Pete” was innocent. Also Joni told them that God told her that “Pete” was innocent.
Joni’s family was not happy that Joni married Doug. Jonathan got the worst because he and his wife refused to read a positive comment about Doug and Joni’s marriage.
True friends of Joni’s told her to slow down with Doug because her children were not in agreement and they really hadn’t had a chance to grieve the loss of their father. Joni stopped taking calls from those friends and reached out to Jimmy Evans to help her justify this marriage.
Jimmy, wanting to please Joni set up this surprise meeting with Jonathan and his wife. Thankfully Jonathan secretly recorded the meeting or we would’ve never known what kind of man Jimmy Evans is!!
Jimmy was trying to force Jonathan and his wife to accept the new husband.
Joni’s friends warned her that Doug was a snake. He was counseling couples and telling them he had a healthy marriage and sex life but he was actually divorced for 9 months!
If you listen to Joni, notice how she’s constantly saying Jimmy Evans told me… Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans. The reason she’s saying his name is because when this marriage falls apart she’s going to say Jimmy Evans told me…
Jimmy is on the board. He knew about the molestation of Joni’s granddaughter. As a pastor and a professional he had a responsibility to report it to law enforcement.
He didn’t!
You all REALLY need to listen to the audio recording!!!
Jonathan and Suzy are grown adults and parents responsible for the well-being of their child. If the allegations were as bad as they stated, they should have immediately called the police and not relied on their parents to oversee the "investigation."
Further, they conveniently left out that Joshua was holding his 1-yr old and talking to his older son while the daughter was changing. They have now confirmed that was the truth in their recent interview with the guy named Marcus. See 42:35 of this video: ruclips.net/video/uGFglGSsfzE/видео.htmlsi=RcBdZ4QjiVqoY0YM
Now that CPS was called by the counselor, Joshua is being investigated by legal authorities, so why did J and S usurp this investigation and publicly name him before the conclusion of the investigation?
On the other side, Rachel and her parents are convinced her husband is not an abuser, and he denied these claims also.
So now, it's a he-said she-said because they never called the police after the bedroom incident.
The bedroom incident is explained in 2 very different ways. Without an investigation, it's all he said she said. Suzie & Jonothan haven't persuaded me any more than Joni has. It's possible both sides believe their own understanding of things and aren't intentionally lying.
Yes! That audio recording is very telling, and reveals the character of the individuals.
@@joparker9052 Listen to the counselor Denise Boggs interview by Laura Lynn Thompson. She tells a lot.
@joparker9052 exactly! 💯, and the fact that they are publicly naming their BIL without the results of the police investigation is extremely juvenile.
Gosh as a parent if I had any inkling of creepiness why on Earth would you go to another overnight gathering with the creep? I would keep my children in the same room with me and eyes on all the time. A mother’s intuition is better than any forensic investigation.
The root goes back long before the child incident. Maybe even before Marcus’s unfaithfulness.
That was a cover up for sexual abuse from back then. Please see the podcast by Ohio For Freedom.
So when Join committed adultery by marrying an adulterer she had more problems with her son…hmmmm 🤔
Why aren’t the sisters backing up their brother and their niece! Because they know it’s true and they don’t wanna lose their job and make their mother angry! That is so shameful. That is not Christlike. Shame on you lamb sisters.
Johnathan has always known he would not become the president of Daystar as long as his mother is living.
Joni and Daystar are using that narrative that he was disappointed with not having the position. Also, in the tape message, Jonathan stated that he had never had a bad review or been disciplined for any wrongdoing on his job and had never been written up and that he had always respected Joni. Joni and Daystar are now stating that Jonathan was a bad employee.
Thank you! About time someone came forward to tell the truth! 👍💫
Johnathon was spiritually abused by his mother. He then believed his father and mother when they stated that they did an internal investigation on “Pete” but they lied. So now that he is no longer in her power he is able to gather information and he was validated that what he assumed as abuse truly was. So it wasn’t that he wanted the position because if he did he would of just made the statement on their show. Johnathon had always been a good son. So it is Joni lamb that’s the issue and the liar.
Johnathan please stand Strong on the truth and Gods Word. Covered up sin is not truth. God Bless. 🙏👍👍🙏
According to biblical passages, particularly Luke 12:2-3 and Luke 8:17, Mark 4:22 “what is in the darkness” refers to secrets, hidden actions, and concealed intentions. The verse promises that these will be “brought into the light” or “revealed” in due time.
So in other words Marcus and Joni lied yeah that really looks good that right there tells you all you need to know I also heard a recording of Susie just crying her heart out to a friend because Joanie didn't respect their boundaries with her home and her kids and came on over anyway no I think Joe needs a horrible person and that man she married is a real creep
It wasn't Johathan who objected, it was Suzy who felt uncomfortable reading praise of the marriage. J&S' s daughter said the person was taller than dad. Joni claims it was a little boy at the school which is slandering the school that has no men working there.
💯 so true! Joni lied big time repeatedly on her PR damage control panel discussion with her fake and paid off women asking her side of the story. What a joke!
Oops there were 2 different situations with the child. One at school with a little boy and one at the beach house. 2 different situations. Yes Laura got a scoop. I’m not so sure she have shared that. Couldn’t she lose her license too?
@@dorothywillms115 There was no abuse at school; it was speculated by Suzy that her little girl had been abused either at school or Daystar when she learned from her young daughter in November 2020 that someone had placed their fingers in her genital area. When Suzy learned there was no adult male working at the school by a process of elimination it was someone at Daystar. Other incidents then pointed to the perp.
Justice for Jonathan, Suzy and their precious daughter!!!🙏❤️😘
This is not a soap opera... this is police investigation
I believe Jonathan and Suzy💯‼️
Tbh they are all word of faith false teachers that do need to now the actual Gospel of Scripture and how to remain in the God given faith
Are there any proof of abuse and covering up? At this time no one knows exactly what happened - so let us pray and wait for documentation. It is not fair to paint this all over the internet without proof of these actions. Let us guard our mouths and own behavior.
I discern the same thing in my Spirit.
I totally agree with you 👍 ❤
@@joycebirr216 Thank you, and God bless ❤
This is tragic. Look what they have done to Jesus's name
Joni lamb is a disgusting narcissist not a Christian.
I am so sick of non-Christians who act the part giving the rest of us a bad name.
Why do we have to call him Pete?
Because there has to be a fall guy to take the blame. His name will eventually be 30:2, to do it now would make a hotter fire on Joni. She is buying time while she makes her next move. She chose her flesh and blood to take throw under the bus while she plans how to keep her money. Judgement day is coming SOON and she can't take her empire with her. It broke my heart for Jonathan to have to have to hear his mother say to millions of people that he was doing a smear campaign.
The journalists used the pseudo name “Pete” because formal charges have not been brought against Joshua Brown, Rachel Lamb Brown’s husband. This is an attempt to protect the identity of the man accused of molesting the little girl.
@rebaramsey7585 because until he's charged you can be sued for defamation
@@bethstruck9084 yes, this.
Legal requirement to not name him outside of the police investigation.
Joni is tracking, following, investigating, photographing, serving papers to, and firing the wrong guy.........instead of Jonathan it should be whoever hurt the little girl...I think they said it was Pete?
They’re using the name Pete because he hasn’t been convicted yet. But it’s Joni’s son in law.
It is Rachael's husband Joshua Brown...
Lila you have explained this story so clearly! Suzy and Johnthan talk in cycles and say nothing much!!
Thank you Lila Rose for covering this important story
If it is true that just prior to Marcus' death, Johnathan was removed from succeeding Marcus, and Joni was installed. Then shortly afterwards, Marcus dies unexpectedly. The next curious event two months following Marcus death, their personal sex therapist, who frequented daystar ministry, and was a friend, immediately files for divorce from his wife, who he had continually affirmed as a great wife. Consequently, Joni and her late husband's therapist and friend immediately start dating!!!
Somebody autopsy Marcus!
Thanks, Lila Rose for talking on this topic.
There's a photo of Pete, when he got married, and the little girl was looking at him; that wedding photo says it all.😢
She fired him when he filed a police report then he released the tapes.
The only evidence that needs to be heard is a forensic evaluation of the child independently done by the police only. Until then it will be a she said, he said situation which leads to nowhere! A possible accusation of coaching of the child is coming so beware! Please protect yourself because the battle will be tough, ugly, and unmerciful! Child protective service may be called and they are a double edge sword; Get an advance on them by taking independent psychological evaluations yourself and not be overly emotional in your dealing because they will use anything against you; please rule out any mental health accusation that will eventually be made ; remember the chilling words of J? ( that the mother of the child was getting angrier and angrier at a random man at the grocery store and was accusing the man?) I’m persuaded she has many stories such as this. Her lawyers may build a case of mental health and or spite against the parent. Any past, present behaviors or statement by the parent will be scrutinized by the legal system and their lawyers! So hopefully the father of the child’s motive aren’t intertwined with vengeance! I suggest that the couple stopped talking to journalists and bloggers altogether unless be directed to do so by an attorney! I doubt an attorney will allow it because a child’s intimacy and privacy is also at stake. Please run anything by an experienced sexual abuse attorney! The custody of your child is at stake; if in anyway the judge suspects coaching or undue influence of the child from a report done on the child, by child protective service, or police the child will be removed for safety concerns pending a mental health evaluation on all parties! Please get two legal counsel immediately if the parent haven’t done so already. One sexual abuse attorney and the other an attorney specialized in employment law and defamation. I saw them on random blogs and channels just talking and talking 😔, remember the privacy of the child will also be evaluated by Cps or judge. If the parents display an appearance of not protecting the child even in her privacy it can be look down and frown by the court; J. is a relative of the child and may have a leg up if mistakes are made and she may claim custody! Any judge will be more likely to give her custody if she appears more stable and passed the forensic evaluation. Think about it! All that to say that this couple needs to be wisdom minded, very strategic in every move they make. Yes this is emotional but again if the wolves can hide abuse they can also build a case against the parent for removal of the child! There are way too many victims parents or mothers that have been labeled paranoiac, overly fearful and anxious, or been diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder or even revengeful by the big wolves and or a court ordered psychological evaluator; the little people get crushed many time! This couple needs professional counsel and be careful and wise as serpent!
I thought of this scenario, too. But I doubt if Doug would want to start off his new marriage by raising Joni's grandchildren. But if vengeance takes over, J and S better get wise counsel from God each day and probably lawyer up w/ the best they can get. I'm praying that righteousness, truth, justice and peace will prevail over all of this debacle.
Joni get custody?? You are smokin' crack for even thinking that. Their kid is not going to be taken from them. You have know idea what you are talking about.
@ I wrote in “ may be” “ could happen” May happen” is a suggestion I’m not smoking anything but you are may be under the influence of something strong and delusional to think that this couple’s mental health or background past statement and behaviors or even their public display of private informations of their child won’t be scrutinized by powerful attorneys from the network. This story can turn into a nasty battle as far as questioning the fitness of the parent. I’m in the legal field without entering into much details and I dealt first hand with this type of situation. I’m urging for protection and shielding themselves from unnecessary hurdles that may emphasis on “ may” come and bite them especially if they are also suing the network. Instead of giving them your weak support of display of outrage please add also informed and loving advice in looking at all aspect of the situation good or bad! We are praying for the best but again the devil run around seeking whom he may devour. Jesus said to sit down and count the cost of battle. This a spiritual battle but also a highly publicized legal case where reputation of the network is on the line. They won’t stop at nothing! Good luck on your delusion!
@@Yvesun2011 I would like to get in touch with you. My granddaughter at 5 was molested by her father & we are in a long custody case. My granddaughter froze at her forensic interview & was too afraid to say anything, but she had already reported to female family members, a counselor, and her occupational therapist, who did file CPS reports.