Joni had her response show to address the thing said she had a different demeanor than what Joni and Jimmy were speaking Lucipherian Ideology , Pete is a preditor and Rachel acts like a jealous lover over a small child , sick, rachel and pete need to be jailed. JONI and Jimmy step out of ministry your both evil
@@neciedenshe was the family counselor during all of this and knows the entire story and shared what happened on another podcast and said exactly what Suzy said happened is the truth
Marcus & Joni lied & told Jonathan and Suzy and the family the "investigation" investigation cleared Pete Joshua. They also cut off Jonathan & Suzy from the Investigators Denise & a forensics investigator. Denise went on a podcast and said that was not true. It did not clear Pete Joshua. It ended because Pete Joshua would not participate & refused to answers any questions so they had to end the investigation. Pete Joshua was not cleared at all.
Joni had a lot to say but funny she had nothing to say about putting tracking devices on their cars and having private investigators following them and photographing them. Please explain that, Joni. Is that normal for employees?
I would, too, if I were innocent. I'd do what I had to do to prove it and protect everything I worked for. Abuse has not been proven to me. Take it to court, Joni. Let a jury who hear all the facts decide. Fire that kid of yours. Write him out if your will immediately. Never hire your kids in your business. 99% of the time, it's a mistake.
There is a video on You Tube where Denise Boggs (the close family counselor) explains what she was told by all members of the family that she talked to after the incident. After her counsel she referred them to Debbie Lyonhart who is a certified counselor to talk to them and counsel them. After Pete and his wife went to counseling Pete refused to return and did not talk when they were there at counseling. It is imperative you watch the video! These 2 counselors have nothing to gain by telling the truth but Joni has everything to loose if she is unmasked.
Joni covered up her own father's sexual abuse of a female employee that was working under him in Daystar. She even fired the woman. The victim's lawyer had a meeting with Daystar lawyer to see what was the reason his client was fired. Then Marcus 7yr affairs was exposed 💯
Also, just based on her non verbal communication, she was lying about when Josh entered the room where Jonathan and Suzy's baby was changing. And other things. I would love to see her questioned by a professional.
@ No lie or flattery. You covered everything-faith, family, social dynamics, and the tragedies of family discord, spiritual bullying, and (of course) abuse. You even used your own experience and perception from being on DayStar. Above all, you understand the difference between allegations and known abuses in scandals. This episode was truly impressive.
I think Suzie is NOT being entirely truthful. She is likely embellishing her story because she was fired and decided to burn the house down on her way out. Hope she doesn't drive Jonathan off the Cliff 😮
@@JeannieMitchellMyers I listened carefully to SUZIE. She is NOT being entirely Truthful. Why didn't she raise these arguments of about child abuse until she was fired? I read her account of what her child told her about the alleged abuse. Is that NOT Completely different from what Suzie is saying now?
@christieprince6991 her dgtr told her she was molested at 5 yrs old and demonstrated to her how it was done at 5 yrs old...WHAT IS SUZY SUPPOSED TO THINK AND FEEL? 😗
During her show she led the audience to believe Jonathan was fired because he did a poor job at the network, but all the audio recordings clearly show he was fired for not submitting to her. They never brought up job performance outside of his refusal to submit based on his own convictions as a grown man and a Christian.
@@rachybaby72 There are 3rd party witnesses of inappropriate behaviour (stroking and kissing the child by the perp) and stalking of the child by the perp -- by her aunt and her nanny. And there are other victims of the perp. But they need to come forward.
Chilldren lie every day. That is why we, as parents, must teach them the consept of truth. Regardlless we must pray and love all of the Lamb-family. Every indivual.
@@kerstiZweidorffDokken The childish lying you're talking about is Very Different from a 5 year old girl saying "a boy taller than Daddy touched me under my skirt"!
Rebecca & her husband warned Suzy & Jonathan to KEEP THEIR DAUGHTER AWAY FROM "PETE". PETE IS NOT ALLOWED OVER TO THEIR HOUSES. PETE WAS SEEN KISSING THEIR DAUGHTER AND HANDS ALL OVER HER AT ANOTHER OCCASION. JONI'S VERSION IS COMPLETELY FALSE!
If Joni really believed her new marriage was "right", she wouldn't need to shove it down her children's throats. She is very controlling. Now she's losing control, and it's driving her crazy.
Thank you for taking the high road, Lila. When I’ve listened to you in the past, I’ve found you to be kind and fair. It’s disheartening that so many “Christians” are jumping to conclusions and disparaging many individuals in the process. None of us knows all the facts.
Leave all those other things that we cannot substantiate. But the fact that Joni married the husband of a friend to the ministry, who has been a blessing to her and the ministry for ages, tells you what you need to know about her. She has no girl code.
@@felliesweetie We don’t know all the facts about that either. We (particularly Christians) have got to stop judging and disparaging others on social media. Damning rhetoric is not only a poor witness, it’s terrible for society in general.
The family has alot of issues. But either the "Pete" character was alone with her, or he wasn't. It just has to be investigated. Jonathan and suzie haven't pursuaded me any more than Joni has. And her daughter saying it was a man taller than Daddy, but not just saying it was uncle so and so is puzzling to me. Unless she did i.d. him by name and I missed that. But everyone's frothing at the mouth. It seems to me we should just leave it to the police. Other than that I think the whole family are too corporate minded with each other. It's shallow.
Yes, her interview with Denise Boggs really sheds so much light on what really happened with the molestation and how it was covered up and actually completely left unfinished in terms of investigation. Suzy and Jonathan were lied to by Marcus and Joni,whom said it was completed and Joshua Brown was innocent. They have reopened the case with the police now involved again! Joni wants to bury this in order to keep the Daystar millions flowing in! So disgusting and aweful!😠😫🙏
@@Jade_902I saw it and she wasn't the actual professional counselor she's a family friend but she was very cautious and what she said and how she said it and just by her demeanor you could tell she was telling the truth she really didn't even want to spill the beans on her friends but they're all her friends and she just wants the truth to come out and I believe Jonathan and Susie
@@Jade_902she did not gossip...she only spoke the truth...and the reporter was part of Daystar and pulled her program and separated from Daystar last week based on all of this cover up that was exposed. I think the goal here is to expose evil and bring justice to this little girl, is it not?
Child abuse should never be handled internally. For family to handle it, especially grandparents, that way is total betrayal. I am so sorry Jonathan and Suzi had to go through that from the people we trust most. I will pray for their family. Daystar need to come clean and repent for what has happened. The child abuse should be the priority and keep Pete away from all children. ✝️✝️🙏
Joni knows she is lying.Her friends were programmed this is evil and the ladies colour you should refuse to be used against one of your own,Suzy.This is 😈 you should repent 😢
They weren’t upset because the man had a divorce in his past. The guy left his wife that did nothing wrong for Joni. That is the issue. That is why they are not at peace with the situation
@@Graacie1111 did you listen to the audio with Joni, Jimmy Evans, and Suzy and Jonathon? Not at all healthy communication. 🤦🏻♀️ Some pretty disgusting things came out of both Joni's and Jimmy's mouths. 🤦🏻♀️
Yes. We are to expose evil! Leaders are held to much higher standard. The culture of secrecy and shame is the reason there is rampant, unbridled abuses, with no consequences. Evil and unscriptural
Thumbs down on Joani’s Explanation 🤮. Thumbs up On Suzy , Johnathan and the precious child’s 🙏✝️🩸💕Explanation. The Johnathan Lamb family Wii received their crown. 👑
I cannot justify any in my heart why Joni needs 2 Multi million dollar houses on the same street and she owns a Lake House in Texas, plus She and Doug are building another 4 million dollar home. Let's not stop there they own a jet. All that money came from Daystar. This is all public information from the local county offices that you can look up on line. You see they are the owners so their salary is determined by themselves. I think that is miss use of the money that hard working people have donated.
Because Johnathan and Susie Lamb wouldn't read a note from a viewer who congratulated Joni on her new marriage and the reason Johnathan and Susie wouldn't read it because they didn't want to give the impression that they condone the marriage and the reason they don't condone his mother's new marriage is because, they believed their mother and her new husband are living in adultery because after Joni's first husband died her new husband after a short time later, divorced his wife with no biblically reason.
and Joni has texts from Suzy being all excited for Doug and Joni dating. it went sideways when she wanted Doug on her program and J & S were threatened by that.
Thankyou Lila, this is the best take I've heard yet. Everyone should listen to the interview with Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson and Denise Boggs. Denise being a family friend and counsellor, she confirms the testimony that Pete never completed forensic investigations or counseling.
Doug Weis’s ex wife needs to speak up and tell her side of the divorce. From what Jonathan said the timing looks terrible. Doug divorced his wife 2 months after Joni’s husband died.😮 Doug was married for about 30 years, was a marriage/sex therapist… His wife is a believer & didn’t want the divorce. No adultery took place. This by itself (if it’s true) goes against scripture. His ex wife and he still work together! This is all so crazy! The SA is the worst part but it’s all such a mess… So sad! The truth needs to be exposed! Thanks for the reporting.🙏
Yes, I watched this interview, people should see this it was covered by Laura Lynn Thompson. Something very interesting that Denise Boggs shared is "Pete"Joshua Brown tried asked her to clear his innocence but he was refusing to continue counseling sessions with Debbie Lyonhart. Denise Boggs couldn't clear him because she is not certified to. He's definitely guilty. Please also see Marcus Rogers, Ohio For Freedom and Laura Lynn Thompson who cover the storywith truth on RUclips.
The latest Table Talk wiith Joni and friends seemed planned.... Didnt Joni have Jonathans 5 yr old daughter come to her, and after Joni talked with her, she was shutdown wouldnt talk about anything!
Joni has so many different stories 1 she said that her son was upset because he wanted to be president, 2 because he would not submit to authority and read the partners comments about doug,3 he was not doing his job right .and if Pete was in the room with his baby and nephew why did joni and Rachel say this from the beginning.
Josh Brown comes from the same small circle that Joel Davis of Ascend The Hill comes from. Joel Davis is currently serving a prison sentence for very serious abuses of very small children (one of his victims was the same age as the daughter of Jonathan and Suzy).
Yeah ok but its not politcially incorrect for western governments to bomb kill maim and destroy Muslims but now you wanna act like muslim life is respected at all to make a factually incorrect and inane dig at Islam in the midst of a very Christian scandal and no islam is about submission to GOD not other human beings. Human beings especially kin deserve respect and love but not submission 🙄@heartlights
@LilaRose Add to all of this chaos the fact that they all attended Gateway church in Southlake, the main campus, near DayStar HQ, near where the Lambs live. Josh was on their praise team as a musician but he was let go and lots of parents sent emails to the church staff they were concerned about Josh and they were assured Josh was not teaching or serving in the children’s ministry. Sr. pastor Robert a morris was charged with SA also and he was let go from that church. This is turning out to be huge because Jimmy Evan’s attended there also and he left. Of course, this is all allegedly and in my opinion because I live here. Volunteered 2 weeks at Daystar to help with telethon, that’s a whole nother story. I trust Jonathan and Suzy.
Didn't an employee of Daystar get fired for Whistlebloweing that Joni's father was sexually harassing her? Wasnt there a couple cases of Marcus' sexual advancements toward employees? Didn't Marcus have affairs?
The real issue is the molestation. Joni keeps telling Suzy to disregard the things happening. Rebecca keeps her kids far away from Joshua Brown. Rebecca Brown is being told its all Suzy by Joni. Suzy listened tried to obey & submit to Joni a spiritual leader. But her mother instinct is too strong & now after talking to others Suzy & Jonathan are seeing the manipulation of Joni for what it is.
@@ReadingforRest4711 no, Rachel Lamb is married to Joshua Brown. Doug Weiss is Joni's current husband. Rebecca is Rachel and Jonathon's other sister married to Jonathan Weiss and she will not allow Joshua Brown around her own children, for good reasons. Marcus and Joni covered things up early on, and Joni and Doug still are covering some things up. Jimmy Evans is complicit in the coverup as well.
@@Karan-th8td Rachel Brown (née Lamb) is married to Joshua Brown. Rebecca Lamb is married to Jonathan Weiss, and they will not allow Joshua ("Pete") around their children either.
Thank you for reporting this story accurately and unbiasedly. Tragic situation but like you said, as a huge “Christian” network, it’s so important to pay attention to it.
Joni owe it to the Christian community to come out and address every single issue raised by J and S. Especially around the serious charge of SA of the lil girl. Because she's gone into full smear mode of J+S without answering the serious questions, I makes her look like she has something to hide.
She won’t. She’s had every opportunity to just admit what she’s done. Instead as the Bible says, A foolish woman tears down her house with her own hands.
And this whole thing with her husband and having to validate it 10,000 times that means you know in your heart it wasn't alright but you wanted to do it anyway
she did. she did another video with her panel of ladies letting them ask questions. she addressed all of it. It's called "If you only knew the whole story" or something similar.
I am so satisfied listening to your commentary! You are so speaking my mind where it feels like everybody else is just picking sides when it's not apparent yet. I knew I wasn't crazy with my thoughts and now I can just sit back and wait for the answer but also like you say we should be praying!
Joni lied lots when she was grooming Suzy to be Matriarch of show one day. When her other kids would call her she would LIE about where she was so they wouldn't be jealous!
Joni made the statement she would not change anything about that meeting with Jimmy Evans, Jonathan and Suzy. That shows she cares for no one but herself.
"Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed upon the housetops." - Jesus Christ, The Holy Gospel according to Saint Luke (12:2-3)
And don't forget, as Lila reported, Joni Lamb said yesterday on her own Daystar program that she Does Not Regret Anything that she said on that recording...so cursing, telling her daughter in law "You Are Evil, Suzy!" 🤔🤔🤔
Thank you so much for breaking down the time line of the information on the incidents with Pete. On others covering this story I have been confused and trying to figure the story out and actually left me questioning the situation. This was so helpful. I wish Johnathan and Suzie would share their story on platforms that are covering the story as well as you are. They have chosen some platforms at this point that do nothing but gossip and bash ministries.
It’s clear that this story is new to your viewers. You all really need to listen to the audio Lila mentioned. The son in law they’re calling Pete refused to be interviewed and Joni and her husband Marcus told Susie and Jonathan the investigation proved “Pete” was innocent. Also Joni told them that God told her that “Pete” was innocent. Joni’s family was not happy that Joni married Doug. Jonathan got the worst because he and his wife refused to read a positive comment about Doug and Joni’s marriage. True friends of Joni’s told her to slow down with Doug because her children were not in agreement and they really hadn’t had a chance to grieve the loss of their father. Joni stopped taking calls from those friends and reached out to Jimmy Evans to help her justify this marriage. Jimmy, wanting to please Joni set up this surprise meeting with Jonathan and his wife. Thankfully Jonathan secretly recorded the meeting or we would’ve never known what kind of man Jimmy Evans is!! Jimmy was trying to force Jonathan and his wife to accept the new husband. Joni’s friends warned her that Doug was a snake. He was counseling couples and telling them he had a healthy marriage and sex life but he was actually divorced for 9 months! If you listen to Joni, notice how she’s constantly saying Jimmy Evans told me… Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans. The reason she’s saying his name is because when this marriage falls apart she’s going to say Jimmy Evans told me… Jimmy is on the board. He knew about the molestation of Joni’s granddaughter. As a pastor and a professional he had a responsibility to report it to law enforcement. He didn’t! You all REALLY need to listen to the audio recording!!!
Jonathan and Suzy are grown adults and parents responsible for the well-being of their child. If the allegations were as bad as they stated, they should have immediately called the police and not relied on their parents to oversee the "investigation." Further, they conveniently left out that Joshua was holding his 1-yr old and talking to his older son while the daughter was changing. They have now confirmed that was the truth in their recent interview with the guy named Marcus. See 42:35 of this video: ruclips.net/video/uGFglGSsfzE/видео.htmlsi=RcBdZ4QjiVqoY0YM Now that CPS was called by the counselor, Joshua is being investigated by legal authorities, so why did J and S usurp this investigation and publicly name him before the conclusion of the investigation? On the other side, Rachel and her parents are convinced her husband is not an abuser, and he denied these claims also. So now, it's a he-said she-said because they never called the police after the bedroom incident.
The bedroom incident is explained in 2 very different ways. Without an investigation, it's all he said she said. Suzie & Jonothan haven't persuaded me any more than Joni has. It's possible both sides believe their own understanding of things and aren't intentionally lying.
Two things… stop sending Daystar money until 3rd party investigates & Rebecca Weiss needs to stop posting videos of her Christmas shopping & do the right thing. Do.the.right.thing like the counselor did. How can you live with yourself!?!
@@GypsyGirl317 She should state publicly that she won't allow him near her children and that she witnessed inappropriate touching and kissing of the little girl early in the sequence of events (2020).
Johnathan has always known he would not become the president of Daystar as long as his mother is living. Joni and Daystar are using that narrative that he was disappointed with not having the position. Also, in the tape message, Jonathan stated that he had never had a bad review or been disciplined for any wrongdoing on his job and had never been written up and that he had always respected Joni. Joni and Daystar are now stating that Jonathan was a bad employee.
And Rebecca (the youngest sister in the Lamb family) warned Johnathan and Suzy that the perp improperly kissed and stroked their little girl in front of her. And the nanny hired by the young parents was disturbed that the perp went to the house to visit the little girl specifically when the parents were not at home. The nanny was hired because the little girl was too upset to go to Daystar and see the perp in person.
It wasn't Johathan who objected, it was Suzy who felt uncomfortable reading praise of the marriage. J&S' s daughter said the person was taller than dad. Joni claims it was a little boy at the school which is slandering the school that has no men working there.
💯 so true! Joni lied big time repeatedly on her PR damage control panel discussion with her fake and paid off women asking her side of the story. What a joke!
Oops there were 2 different situations with the child. One at school with a little boy and one at the beach house. 2 different situations. Yes Laura got a scoop. I’m not so sure she have shared that. Couldn’t she lose her license too?
@@dorothywillms115 There was no abuse at school; it was speculated by Suzy that her little girl had been abused either at school or Daystar when she learned from her young daughter in November 2020 that someone had placed their fingers in her genital area. When Suzy learned there was no adult male working at the school by a process of elimination it was someone at Daystar. Other incidents then pointed to the perp.
There's no excuse for covering up child sexual abuse ....and it will clearly.shpw in the days ahead, it was swept under the rug . NO EXCUSE. CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT AND NEED TO BE PROTECTED AT ALL COST.
Don’t forget Joni had a conversation with the girl, just the 2 of them. Perhaps the reason the girl isn’t naming the man is because Joni got in her head one way or another. Sad nonetheless.
I believe what they say about his brother-in-law “Pete”, and I am horrified by how Marcus and Joni have covered it up before even starting any investigation, and that is probably the reason why Marcus died 4 months later (I know another similar case with a pastor), what they did to their own granddaughter is a not only a sin but a crime. The thing is that Jonathan and his wife have brought everything to light after they were fired and the possibility of Jonathan becoming President of Daystar faded away. This couple are implying that God has chosen them to be the head of this “ministry” (business) that they have not built. Apparently the horrible issue of their daughter was not serious enough for them to make them quit their jobs and bring the case to light. Shame on them! As king David Marcus had opened a horrible door when he was in adultery for 7 years! Then Joni’s father was accused of sexual harassment and then one of his sons-in-law, the one with the creepy look, appeared on the scene.
I have the impression that the marrage counsellor whom Joni invited to the threat&bullying session with young Lambs believes something like "man should leave his wife and cling to his mother ".
Why aren’t the sisters backing up their brother and their niece! Because they know it’s true and they don’t wanna lose their job and make their mother angry! That is so shameful. That is not Christlike. Shame on you lamb sisters.
LilaRose, for everyone who believes the lie and manipulation line about how we should not judge, Christians just love that line don't they. I have this to say, we must judge, we are called to judge Righteously read John 7:24.
The only evidence that needs to be heard is a forensic evaluation of the child independently done by the police only. Until then it will be a she said, he said situation which leads to nowhere! A possible accusation of coaching of the child is coming so beware! Please protect yourself because the battle will be tough, ugly, and unmerciful! Child protective service may be called and they are a double edge sword; Get an advance on them by taking independent psychological evaluations yourself and not be overly emotional in your dealing because they will use anything against you; please rule out any mental health accusation that will eventually be made ; remember the chilling words of J? ( that the mother of the child was getting angrier and angrier at a random man at the grocery store and was accusing the man?) I’m persuaded she has many stories such as this. Her lawyers may build a case of mental health and or spite against the parent. Any past, present behaviors or statement by the parent will be scrutinized by the legal system and their lawyers! So hopefully the father of the child’s motive aren’t intertwined with vengeance! I suggest that the couple stopped talking to journalists and bloggers altogether unless be directed to do so by an attorney! I doubt an attorney will allow it because a child’s intimacy and privacy is also at stake. Please run anything by an experienced sexual abuse attorney! The custody of your child is at stake; if in anyway the judge suspects coaching or undue influence of the child from a report done on the child, by child protective service, or police the child will be removed for safety concerns pending a mental health evaluation on all parties! Please get two legal counsel immediately if the parent haven’t done so already. One sexual abuse attorney and the other an attorney specialized in employment law and defamation. I saw them on random blogs and channels just talking and talking 😔, remember the privacy of the child will also be evaluated by Cps or judge. If the parents display an appearance of not protecting the child even in her privacy it can be look down and frown by the court; J. is a relative of the child and may have a leg up if mistakes are made and she may claim custody! Any judge will be more likely to give her custody if she appears more stable and passed the forensic evaluation. Think about it! All that to say that this couple needs to be wisdom minded, very strategic in every move they make. Yes this is emotional but again if the wolves can hide abuse they can also build a case against the parent for removal of the child! There are way too many victims parents or mothers that have been labeled paranoiac, overly fearful and anxious, or been diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder or even revengeful by the big wolves and or a court ordered psychological evaluator; the little people get crushed many time! This couple needs professional counsel and be careful and wise as serpent!
I thought of this scenario, too. But I doubt if Doug would want to start off his new marriage by raising Joni's grandchildren. But if vengeance takes over, J and S better get wise counsel from God each day and probably lawyer up w/ the best they can get. I'm praying that righteousness, truth, justice and peace will prevail over all of this debacle.
Joni get custody?? You are smokin' crack for even thinking that. Their kid is not going to be taken from them. You have know idea what you are talking about.
@ I wrote in “ may be” “ could happen” May happen” is a suggestion I’m not smoking anything but you are may be under the influence of something strong and delusional to think that this couple’s mental health or background past statement and behaviors or even their public display of private informations of their child won’t be scrutinized by powerful attorneys from the network. This story can turn into a nasty battle as far as questioning the fitness of the parent. I’m in the legal field without entering into much details and I dealt first hand with this type of situation. I’m urging for protection and shielding themselves from unnecessary hurdles that may emphasis on “ may” come and bite them especially if they are also suing the network. Instead of giving them your weak support of display of outrage please add also informed and loving advice in looking at all aspect of the situation good or bad! We are praying for the best but again the devil run around seeking whom he may devour. Jesus said to sit down and count the cost of battle. This a spiritual battle but also a highly publicized legal case where reputation of the network is on the line. They won’t stop at nothing! Good luck on your delusion!
Gosh as a parent if I had any inkling of creepiness why on Earth would you go to another overnight gathering with the creep? I would keep my children in the same room with me and eyes on all the time. A mother’s intuition is better than any forensic investigation.
So in other words Marcus and Joni lied yeah that really looks good that right there tells you all you need to know I also heard a recording of Susie just crying her heart out to a friend because Joanie didn't respect their boundaries with her home and her kids and came on over anyway no I think Joe needs a horrible person and that man she married is a real creep
Because there has to be a fall guy to take the blame. His name will eventually be 30:2, to do it now would make a hotter fire on Joni. She is buying time while she makes her next move. She chose her flesh and blood to take throw under the bus while she plans how to keep her money. Judgement day is coming SOON and she can't take her empire with her. It broke my heart for Jonathan to have to have to hear his mother say to millions of people that he was doing a smear campaign.
The journalists used the pseudo name “Pete” because formal charges have not been brought against Joshua Brown, Rachel Lamb Brown’s husband. This is an attempt to protect the identity of the man accused of molesting the little girl.
According to biblical passages, particularly Luke 12:2-3 and Luke 8:17, Mark 4:22 “what is in the darkness” refers to secrets, hidden actions, and concealed intentions. The verse promises that these will be “brought into the light” or “revealed” in due time.
Johnathon was spiritually abused by his mother. He then believed his father and mother when they stated that they did an internal investigation on “Pete” but they lied. So now that he is no longer in her power he is able to gather information and he was validated that what he assumed as abuse truly was. So it wasn’t that he wanted the position because if he did he would of just made the statement on their show. Johnathon had always been a good son. So it is Joni lamb that’s the issue and the liar.
Joni is tracking, following, investigating, photographing, serving papers to, and firing the wrong guy.........instead of Jonathan it should be whoever hurt the little girl...I think they said it was Pete?
These are two separate issues: child abuse and job performance. The firing for poor job performance (refusing to do what their job calls for) is warranted, as any large corporation would do (that's the reality of the real world). If you disagree with the President of the company, then you have to either leave on your own volition or expect to be fired for refusing to do your job. As for the child abuse....'who' is this 'Pete' and why was it so important to defend him and clear his name. Why was this 'Pete' (and his family!!!) still involved and included in the Lamb family activities if they even remotely had any doubts or suspicions (!!!). Lots more involved here...and probably lots more to come. This was not just Joni Lamb, it was also Marcus Lamb.
Denise Boggs had an interview with Laura- Lynn Tyler Thompson. She was the ‘formula forensic counselor’- assigned by Marcus and Joni Lamb. 27 mins into the interview is where she tells Laura that there was no formal internal investigation as she is not a licensed professional counselor nor hired by Joni or Marcus. It was simply a lot of prayer of them praying together as a family. But- again, Joni is lying. There was no formal investigation. And there was NOT one person who was assigned to do a formal investigation. Denise recommended Rachel and Pete meet with a Forensic counselor at her retreat center in North Carolina to answer questions. Pete did not answer the questions of the counselor at the assessment. Rachel was speaking for him, not letting him speak. So the assessment was incomplete. Pete was asked to go back to answer by himself and he refused. Marcus prayed about it and was told by God to let it go and move forward. Pete did not get clearance or release.
Their was a person assigned by Denise Boggs to do a forensic investigation that was Debbie Lyonhart. She is licensed to complete that type of investigation for over 25 years, so very experienced and credible. The alleged molester would not answer her questions directly or meet with her on his own. Rachel, his wife did all the talking for him. She could not complete the investigation due to lack of cooperation by Joshua or "Pete". Jonathan and Suzy were told by Joni and Marcus that Joshua was cleared of all charges by this investigator. That was and is a lie.
Well Marcus was not praying to the real God but to the god of this world,satan. I always thought God allowed him to be taken out for a reason. I really do not think he is in Heaven,big phoney.
Praying for our leaders and for justice, tempered with mercy, for the weak. Friday, on the December 6th Day of Advent, it's the Feast Day of Saint Nicholas, and will be praying to our Lord Jesus for children through the intercession of Nicholas (patron saint of children, bakers, and pawnbrokers). Hope you Lila, your family, and everyone here has a light-filled peaceful joyful blessed Merry Christmas week. The world's thy ship and not thy home.” -Saint Therese of Lisieux John 14:30-31 I will no longer speak much with you, for the ruler of the world is coming. He has no power over me, but the world must know that I love the Father and that I do just as the Father has commanded me. Get up, let us go. "To love is to will the good of another." -St. Thomas Aquinas 1 John 4:16 We have come to know and to believe in the love God has for us. God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him. Psalm 34:19 The Lord is close to the brokenhearted, saves those whose spirit is crushed. Sirach 35:16-20 He shows no partiality to the weak but hears the grievance of the oppressed. He does not forsake the cry of the orphan, nor the widow when she pours out her complaint. Do not the tears that stream down her cheek cry out against the one that causes them to fall? Those who serve God to please him are accepted; their petition reaches the clouds. 1 Samuel 16:7 But the Lord said to Samuel: Do not judge from his appearance or from his lofty stature, because I have rejected him. God does not see as a mortal, who sees the appearance. The Lord looks into the heart. John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give it to you. Do not let your hearts be troubled or afraid. John 17: 20-21 '“I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me."
Be careful because Nick Jones reported on Daystar and he got a letter from their lawyers saying that he's going to be sued if he doesn't retract the RUclips. He said nothing wrong he was just saying he's her allegations but you still got the letter he was bullied and now this is even worse because we really want to know the truth and I do believe Jonathan and Susie.
Are there any proof of abuse and covering up? At this time no one knows exactly what happened - so let us pray and wait for documentation. It is not fair to paint this all over the internet without proof of these actions. Let us guard our mouths and own behavior.
Jimmy Evans is a false teacher, who adds to God's word upon any whim that works best for his compromising and greedy ways (i.e., addiction and abuse are grounds for divorce, although separation and a restorative process may be acceptable for these two things, divorce is NOT). Thus, touting Jimmy Evans as a 'respected' Bible teacher and marriage counselor in this false puff piece on him is laughably absurd. And this video was a great revelation about Doug Weiss, thank you, as a person who is an "intimacy" therapist, who struggled with "intimacy" addition. No wonder Jonathan and Suzy were unsettled and concerning this man, he's a sexual pervert, likely committed adultery, and illegitimately divorced his first wife! Then, Jimmy Evans approves of this pervert and marries him to Joni!!! Jimmy Evans totally had to have known about Robert Morris's pedophilia, all the years he ran with him, and never said anything about it (though I'm sure he would deny it too), because Morris gave his XO Ministry a platform, and likely some financial help, at Gateway church. And now Evans is helping Joni cover up multiple pedophilia assaults on her own granddaughter, from a family member named as 'Pete', which most think is a son-in law, who does not want to go to prison for 99 years (without parole), or possible face the death penalty in Texas for what he did. This disclosure would bury Day Star. Joni and the other corrupt leadership there at Day Star realize this, so they will lie and deny, project and slander, as it is now their hill the have chosen to die on. The threats of Day Star's lawsuits are a joke, for if any jury hears the testimony of what happened to Jonathan and Suzy's daughter and the cover up involved in court, the verdict will go hard against Day Star and all the those involved in the criminal conspiracy cover up of the horrible crimes that were committed against this poor little 5 year old child. No one with a good and clear conscience should ever donate any money to Day Star, or the leadership jackals involved in this scandal again. It needs to fall into the abyss and never rise again. Evans needs to be run out of all Christian ministry 'leadership' work permanently, as he is a Jim Jones, authoritarian cult leader waiting to happened. No one should drink his kool-aid ever!
They did talk about the abuse in the audio. On the released audio with Jimmy from 29:18 - Jimmy quotes the other family members "Douge is Evil. Douge is a predator." And Joni talks about how Suzy was convinced and hung up on how Pete molested her daughter and they had to do a lot to show her he didn't, as a point to say she lacks reason.
Joni lamb should apologize for calling the podcasters "lowlife". I hope she wasn't being racist and referring it to black people and she is Mexican. A white Mexican.
Denise Boggs would not lie about what truly happened and her story lined up with Suzy’s !!
Truth!!!! Is she siding with Daystar? Did she investigate?
Joni had her response show to address the thing said she had a different demeanor than what Joni and Jimmy were speaking Lucipherian Ideology , Pete is a preditor and Rachel acts like a jealous lover over a small child , sick, rachel and pete need to be jailed. JONI and Jimmy step out of ministry your both evil
@@neciedenshe was the family counselor during all of this and knows the entire story and shared what happened on another podcast and said exactly what Suzy said happened is the truth
Marcus & Joni lied & told Jonathan and Suzy and the family the "investigation" investigation cleared Pete Joshua. They also cut off Jonathan & Suzy from the Investigators Denise & a forensics investigator. Denise went on a podcast and said that was not true. It did not clear Pete Joshua. It ended because Pete Joshua would not participate & refused to answers any questions so they had to end the investigation. Pete Joshua was not cleared at all.
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Joni had a lot to say but funny she had nothing to say about putting tracking devices on their cars and having private investigators following them and photographing them. Please explain that, Joni. Is that normal for employees?
Did she explain NDAs?
So bad J&S had to leave the state of Texas to go into hiding. Allegedly, my opinion.
She’s untrustworthy and mind controlling that’s a Jezebel spirit
Yes they have trackers on the employees cars
I would, too, if I were innocent. I'd do what I had to do to prove it and protect everything I worked for. Abuse has not been proven to me. Take it to court, Joni. Let a jury who hear all the facts decide. Fire that kid of yours. Write him out if your will immediately.
Never hire your kids in your business. 99% of the time, it's a mistake.
There is a video on You Tube where Denise Boggs (the close family counselor) explains what she was told by all members of the family that she talked to after the incident. After her counsel she referred them to Debbie Lyonhart who is a certified counselor to talk to them and counsel them. After Pete and his wife went to counseling Pete refused to return and did not talk when they were there at counseling. It is imperative you watch the video! These 2 counselors have nothing to gain by telling the truth but Joni has everything to loose if she is unmasked.
Yep!!! Joni is most definitely lying !!
Yes. Must watch!
Anyone splitting up a family to marry what appears as "the love of her life" will lie.
Joni covered up her own father's sexual abuse of a female employee that was working under him in Daystar. She even fired the woman. The victim's lawyer had a meeting with Daystar lawyer to see what was the reason his client was fired. Then Marcus 7yr affairs was exposed 💯
Don't forget she's a television personality AKA actress
Joni's lying because her & Marcus SHUT DOWN ANY INVESTIGATION BUT LEAD THEM TO BELIEVE THERE WAS ONE DONE!
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Marcus’ millions aren’t helping him now. I wish he had been unmasked on earth first. I hate it when people aren’t revealed until after their death.
Also, just based on her non verbal communication, she was lying about when Josh entered the room where Jonathan and Suzy's baby was changing. And other things. I would love to see her questioned by a professional.
@@heartlights Also people should watch Johnathan and Suzy's interview by Marcus Rogers.
I think she/ Joni, shut down the investigation because Joni said she heard a voice from God telling her "Pete" was innocent.
This is the most level-headed reporting I’ve seen on this matter. Well done!
Thank you!
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No lie or flattery. You covered everything-faith, family, social dynamics, and the tragedies of family discord, spiritual bullying, and (of course) abuse. You even used your own experience and perception from being on DayStar. Above all, you understand the difference between allegations and known abuses in scandals.
This episode was truly impressive.
Crimes against humanity! We need to protect the children.
the Word ....Millstone keeps coming to me, and that would be terrifying to me.😮
There's an actual abuse report, Joni. You can't make that go away.
Praying for this little girl 😢
I believe Jonathan andd Suzi. 100%
Me as well!
Real LOVE isnt what one says..its what one does.😮❤
I think Suzie is NOT being entirely truthful. She is likely embellishing her story because she was fired and decided to burn the house down on her way out. Hope she doesn't drive Jonathan off the Cliff 😮
@@JeannieMitchellMyers I listened carefully to SUZIE. She is NOT being entirely Truthful. Why didn't she raise these arguments of about child abuse until she was fired? I read her account of what her child told her about the alleged abuse. Is that NOT Completely different from what Suzie is saying now?
@christieprince6991 her dgtr told her she was molested at 5 yrs old and demonstrated to her how it was done at 5 yrs old...WHAT IS SUZY SUPPOSED TO THINK AND FEEL? 😗
During her show she led the audience to believe Jonathan was fired because he did a poor job at the network, but all the audio recordings clearly show he was fired for not submitting to her. They never brought up job performance outside of his refusal to submit based on his own convictions as a grown man and a Christian.
I believe Jonathan and Suzy. Children don't lie. Prayers for Jonathan and Suzy 🙏🙏🙏
Parents do lie, though.
Children lie all the time; it's possible they are not doing so in this scenario.
@@rachybaby72 There are 3rd party witnesses of inappropriate behaviour (stroking and kissing the child by the perp) and stalking of the child by the perp -- by her aunt and her nanny. And there are other victims of the perp. But they need to come forward.
Chilldren lie every day. That is why we, as parents, must teach them the consept of truth. Regardlless we must pray and love all of the Lamb-family. Every indivual.
@@kerstiZweidorffDokken The childish lying you're talking about is Very Different from a 5 year old girl saying "a boy taller than Daddy touched me under my skirt"!
Yeshua brings all things to light amen.
She’s is being disingenuous
Rebecca & her husband warned Suzy & Jonathan to KEEP THEIR DAUGHTER AWAY FROM "PETE". PETE IS NOT ALLOWED OVER TO THEIR HOUSES. PETE WAS SEEN KISSING THEIR DAUGHTER AND HANDS ALL OVER HER AT ANOTHER OCCASION. JONI'S VERSION IS COMPLETELY FALSE!
Yet everyone is saying Pete is Rebecca husband.
No, Rachel's husband.
@@byronpayne4824no. Racheal’s husband
Is Pete Rachel husband??
@@sarahricci895Yes
If Joni really believed her new marriage was "right", she wouldn't need to shove it down her children's throats. She is very controlling. Now she's losing control, and it's driving her crazy.
Thank you for taking the high road, Lila. When I’ve listened to you in the past, I’ve found you to be kind and fair. It’s disheartening that so many “Christians” are jumping to conclusions and disparaging many individuals in the process. None of us knows all the facts.
Leave all those other things that we cannot substantiate. But the fact that Joni married the husband of a friend to the ministry, who has been a blessing to her and the ministry for ages, tells you what you need to know about her. She has no girl code.
@@felliesweetie We don’t know all the facts about that either. We (particularly Christians) have got to stop judging and disparaging others on social media. Damning rhetoric is not only a poor witness, it’s terrible for society in general.
The family has alot of issues. But either the "Pete" character was alone with her, or he wasn't. It just has to be investigated. Jonathan and suzie haven't pursuaded me any more than Joni has. And her daughter saying it was a man taller than Daddy, but not just saying it was uncle so and so is puzzling to me. Unless she did i.d. him by name and I missed that.
But everyone's frothing at the mouth. It seems to me we should just leave it to the police.
Other than that I think the whole family are too corporate minded with each other. It's shallow.
Amen
@@felliesweetieand Doug’s divorce wasn’t in his past, IT WAS IN HIS present
Laura Lynn Thompson has a 90 min interview first hand witness family counselor. Must watch important info.
@sabine3769 so a family counselor is on a gossip channel spilling the tea? 😮
Yes, her interview with Denise Boggs really sheds so much light on what really happened with the molestation and how it was covered up and actually completely left unfinished in terms of investigation. Suzy and Jonathan were lied to by Marcus and Joni,whom said it was completed and Joshua Brown was innocent. They have reopened the case with the police now involved again! Joni wants to bury this in order to keep the Daystar millions flowing in! So disgusting and aweful!😠😫🙏
What is that to you?
And anyone who consistently tells the truth has nothing to fear. @jade..902
@@Jade_902I saw it and she wasn't the actual professional counselor she's a family friend but she was very cautious and what she said and how she said it and just by her demeanor you could tell she was telling the truth she really didn't even want to spill the beans on her friends but they're all her friends and she just wants the truth to come out and I believe Jonathan and Susie
@@Jade_902she did not gossip...she only spoke the truth...and the reporter was part of Daystar and pulled her program and separated from Daystar last week based on all of this cover up that was exposed. I think the goal here is to expose evil and bring justice to this little girl, is it not?
Child abuse should never be handled internally. For family to handle it, especially grandparents, that way is total betrayal. I am so sorry Jonathan and Suzi had to go through that from the people we trust most. I will pray for their family. Daystar need to come clean and repent for what has happened. The child abuse should be the priority and keep Pete away from all children. ✝️✝️🙏
They need to be fully investigated. They're like a CULT.
YES, Cultic
Joni knows she is lying.Her friends were programmed this is evil and the ladies colour you should refuse to be used against one of your own,Suzy.This is 😈 you should repent 😢
They weren’t upset because the man had a divorce in his past. The guy left his wife that did nothing wrong for Joni. That is the issue. That is why they are not at peace with the situation
The "voice of God" sure has a potty mouth. Isn't there something about that in the Bible?
Yup😊
Because she said shit? Big Deal
@@loriolson1143 James 3:10 out of the same mouth cometh forth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
@@Graacie1111 did you listen to the audio with Joni, Jimmy Evans, and Suzy and Jonathon?
Not at all healthy communication. 🤦🏻♀️
Some pretty disgusting things came out of both Joni's and Jimmy's mouths. 🤦🏻♀️
Yes. We are to expose evil! Leaders are held to much higher standard. The culture of secrecy and shame is the reason there is rampant, unbridled abuses, with no consequences. Evil and unscriptural
Thumbs down on Joani’s
Explanation 🤮. Thumbs up
On Suzy , Johnathan and the precious child’s 🙏✝️🩸💕Explanation. The Johnathan Lamb family Wii received their crown. 👑
Don’t send them money, they have conned people out of far too much in the name of God. Pray for this whole pathetic bunch.
I cannot justify any in my heart why Joni needs 2 Multi million dollar houses on the same street and she owns a Lake House in Texas, plus She and Doug are building another 4 million dollar home. Let's not stop there they own a jet. All that money came from Daystar. This is all public information from the local county offices that you can look up on line. You see they are the owners so their salary is determined by themselves. I think that is miss use of the money that hard working people have donated.
Thank you so much Lila for what you do! My family appreciates you so much ❤!
Thanks for being here!!
Because Johnathan and Susie Lamb wouldn't read a note from a viewer who congratulated Joni on her new marriage and the reason Johnathan and Susie wouldn't read it because they didn't want to give the impression that they condone the marriage and the reason they don't condone his mother's new marriage is because, they believed their mother and her new husband are living in adultery because after Joni's first husband died her new husband after a short time later, divorced his wife with no biblically reason.
and Joni has texts from Suzy being all excited for Doug and Joni dating. it went sideways when she wanted Doug on her program and J & S were threatened by that.
Thankyou Lila, this is the best take I've heard yet. Everyone should listen to the interview with Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson and Denise Boggs. Denise being a family friend and counsellor, she confirms the testimony that Pete never completed forensic investigations or counseling.
Doug Weis’s ex wife needs to speak up and tell her side of the divorce. From what Jonathan said the timing looks terrible. Doug divorced his wife 2 months after Joni’s husband died.😮 Doug was married for about 30 years, was a marriage/sex therapist… His wife is a believer & didn’t want the divorce. No adultery took place. This by itself (if it’s true) goes against scripture. His ex wife and he still work together! This is all so crazy! The SA is the worst part but it’s all such a mess… So sad! The truth needs to be exposed! Thanks for the reporting.🙏
I believe every single word Suzy and Johnathon and their daughter have spoke. Every word !!!!!!!
Yes, I watched this interview, people should see this it was covered by Laura Lynn Thompson. Something very interesting that Denise Boggs shared is "Pete"Joshua Brown tried asked her to clear his innocence but he was refusing to continue counseling sessions with Debbie Lyonhart. Denise Boggs couldn't clear him because she is not certified to. He's definitely guilty. Please also see Marcus Rogers, Ohio For Freedom and Laura Lynn Thompson who cover the storywith truth on RUclips.
The latest Table Talk wiith Joni and friends seemed planned....
Didnt Joni have Jonathans 5 yr old daughter come to her, and after Joni talked with her, she was shutdown wouldnt talk about anything!
Yes...true, according to Jonathan and Suzy. Little girl was completely intimidated by Joni and scared to talk after meeting with her alone.
Joni has so many different stories 1 she said that her son was upset because he wanted to be president, 2 because he would not submit to authority and read the partners comments about doug,3 he was not doing his job right .and if Pete was in the room with his baby and nephew why did joni and Rachel say this from the beginning.
Because she's making it up as she goes along.
Joni needs to humble herself before GOD and repent big time. I believe Suzy and Jonathan
Josh Brown comes from the same small circle that Joel Davis of Ascend The Hill comes from. Joel Davis is currently serving a prison sentence for very serious abuses of very small children (one of his victims was the same age as the daughter of Jonathan and Suzy).
All Joni has to do is have an independent investigation and let the truth be what it is. The Doug fiasco is bad enough, but the SA is sickening.
exactly this. Everyone is getting caught up in all the other details, but this is what really matters.
Joni’s acting like a Scientologist!
Daystar + Abuse = 1 Billion dollar coverup
I do realize how politically incorrect it is, but the whole submission thing is ISLAM TO THE CORES.
Yeah ok but its not politcially incorrect for western governments to bomb kill maim and destroy Muslims but now you wanna act like muslim life is respected at all to make a factually incorrect and inane dig at Islam in the midst of a very Christian scandal and no islam is about submission to GOD not other human beings. Human beings especially kin deserve respect and love but not submission 🙄@heartlights
@LilaRose Add to all of this chaos the fact that they all attended Gateway church in Southlake, the main campus, near DayStar HQ, near where the Lambs live. Josh was on their praise team as a musician but he was let go and lots of parents sent emails to the church staff they were concerned about Josh and they were assured Josh was not teaching or serving in the children’s ministry. Sr. pastor Robert a morris was charged with SA also and he was let go from that church. This is turning out to be huge because Jimmy Evan’s attended there also and he left. Of course, this is all allegedly and in my opinion because I live here. Volunteered 2 weeks at Daystar to help with telethon, that’s a whole nother story. I trust Jonathan and Suzy.
Didn't an employee of Daystar get fired for Whistlebloweing that Joni's father was sexually harassing her? Wasnt there a couple cases of Marcus' sexual advancements toward employees? Didn't Marcus have affairs?
Yes .
The real issue is the molestation. Joni keeps telling Suzy to disregard the things happening. Rebecca keeps her kids far away from Joshua Brown. Rebecca Brown is being told its all Suzy by Joni. Suzy listened tried to obey & submit to Joni a spiritual leader. But her mother instinct is too strong & now after talking to others Suzy & Jonathan are seeing the manipulation of Joni for what it is.
Who's Rebecca Brown?
You nailed it. 👍🏽
@@ReadingforRest4711 no, Rachel Lamb is married to Joshua Brown.
Doug Weiss is Joni's current husband.
Rebecca is Rachel and Jonathon's other sister married to Jonathan Weiss and she will not allow Joshua Brown around her own children, for good reasons.
Marcus and Joni covered things up early on, and Joni and Doug still are covering some things up.
Jimmy Evans is complicit in the coverup as well.
@@Karan-th8td Rachel Brown (née Lamb) is married to Joshua Brown.
Rebecca Lamb is married to Jonathan Weiss, and they will not allow Joshua ("Pete") around their children either.
@GypsyGirl317 Correct. Thank you.
Thank you for reporting this story accurately and unbiasedly. Tragic situation but like you said, as a huge “Christian” network, it’s so important to pay attention to it.
thank you for covering this.
A child that young vs a woman who spent decades covering stuff up… not hard to figure out which one is evil.
Daystar needs to close their doors!
Excastly
Amen!
Agreed💯
Joni owe it to the Christian community to come out and address every single issue raised by J and S.
Especially around the serious charge of SA of the lil girl.
Because she's gone into full smear mode of J+S without answering the serious questions, I makes her look like she has something to hide.
She won’t. She’s had every opportunity to just admit what she’s done. Instead as the Bible says, A foolish woman tears down her house with her own hands.
Exactly 💯
She’s not repenting she’s a Jezebel
And this whole thing with her husband and having to validate it 10,000 times that means you know in your heart it wasn't alright but you wanted to do it anyway
she did. she did another video with her panel of ladies letting them ask questions. she addressed all of it. It's called "If you only knew the whole story" or something similar.
I am so satisfied listening to your commentary! You are so speaking my mind where it feels like everybody else is just picking sides when it's not apparent yet. I knew I wasn't crazy with my thoughts and now I can just sit back and wait for the answer but also like you say we should be praying!
Johnathan please stand Strong on the truth and Gods Word. Covered up sin is not truth. God Bless. 🙏👍👍🙏
Joni lied lots when she was grooming Suzy to be Matriarch of show one day. When her other kids would call her she would LIE about where she was so they wouldn't be jealous!
Sumbit was said over 60 times
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Over 90 times.
Submit
Joni made the statement she would not change anything about that meeting with Jimmy Evans, Jonathan and Suzy. That shows she cares for no one but herself.
Whenever I would look at the show, I got “fake”. Joni was cussing in their private meeting.
She was cursing. I was flabbergasted at her indignant comments and verbiage.
@@shelbybrown6973 The cursing was the least offensive thing she did. She claimed to be the voice of God. Thats crazy wrong.
Notice, in the video Joni is talking to her "fan" club. 😢
"Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed upon the housetops."
- Jesus Christ, The Holy Gospel according to Saint Luke (12:2-3)
Why is Joni not cursing talking to daystar how she was behind closed doors in the other interview? I don’t believe a word that comes from her mouth
And don't forget, as Lila reported, Joni Lamb said yesterday on her own Daystar program that she Does Not Regret Anything that she said on that recording...so cursing, telling her daughter in law "You Are Evil, Suzy!" 🤔🤔🤔
Joni married her sister (in Christ) husband and since has been out for vengeance to anyone who does not agree.
The full audio says it all. Spiritual abuse, nothing less. And Joni’s language was absolutely crass. Allegedly.
Thank you so much for breaking down the time line of the information on the incidents with Pete. On others covering this story I have been confused and trying to figure the story out and actually left me questioning the situation. This was so helpful. I wish Johnathan and Suzie would share their story on platforms that are covering the story as well as you are. They have chosen some platforms at this point that do nothing but gossip and bash ministries.
You can see the deception in her eyes. This is what too much power and money will do to an individual when you put that above God
When a child claims they’ve been molested, believe them. End of story.
It thought your analysis of this situation was fair, wise, level-headed, without judgment and godly. Great job.
It’s clear that this story is new to your viewers.
You all really need to listen to the audio Lila mentioned.
The son in law they’re calling Pete refused to be interviewed and Joni and her husband Marcus told Susie and Jonathan the investigation proved “Pete” was innocent. Also Joni told them that God told her that “Pete” was innocent.
Joni’s family was not happy that Joni married Doug. Jonathan got the worst because he and his wife refused to read a positive comment about Doug and Joni’s marriage.
True friends of Joni’s told her to slow down with Doug because her children were not in agreement and they really hadn’t had a chance to grieve the loss of their father. Joni stopped taking calls from those friends and reached out to Jimmy Evans to help her justify this marriage.
Jimmy, wanting to please Joni set up this surprise meeting with Jonathan and his wife. Thankfully Jonathan secretly recorded the meeting or we would’ve never known what kind of man Jimmy Evans is!!
Jimmy was trying to force Jonathan and his wife to accept the new husband.
Joni’s friends warned her that Doug was a snake. He was counseling couples and telling them he had a healthy marriage and sex life but he was actually divorced for 9 months!
If you listen to Joni, notice how she’s constantly saying Jimmy Evans told me… Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans, Jimmy Evans. The reason she’s saying his name is because when this marriage falls apart she’s going to say Jimmy Evans told me…
Jimmy is on the board. He knew about the molestation of Joni’s granddaughter. As a pastor and a professional he had a responsibility to report it to law enforcement.
He didn’t!
You all REALLY need to listen to the audio recording!!!
Jonathan and Suzy are grown adults and parents responsible for the well-being of their child. If the allegations were as bad as they stated, they should have immediately called the police and not relied on their parents to oversee the "investigation."
Further, they conveniently left out that Joshua was holding his 1-yr old and talking to his older son while the daughter was changing. They have now confirmed that was the truth in their recent interview with the guy named Marcus. See 42:35 of this video: ruclips.net/video/uGFglGSsfzE/видео.htmlsi=RcBdZ4QjiVqoY0YM
Now that CPS was called by the counselor, Joshua is being investigated by legal authorities, so why did J and S usurp this investigation and publicly name him before the conclusion of the investigation?
On the other side, Rachel and her parents are convinced her husband is not an abuser, and he denied these claims also.
So now, it's a he-said she-said because they never called the police after the bedroom incident.
The bedroom incident is explained in 2 very different ways. Without an investigation, it's all he said she said. Suzie & Jonothan haven't persuaded me any more than Joni has. It's possible both sides believe their own understanding of things and aren't intentionally lying.
Yes! That audio recording is very telling, and reveals the character of the individuals.
@@joparker9052 Listen to the counselor Denise Boggs interview by Laura Lynn Thompson. She tells a lot.
@joparker9052 exactly! 💯, and the fact that they are publicly naming their BIL without the results of the police investigation is extremely juvenile.
Two things… stop sending Daystar money until 3rd party investigates & Rebecca Weiss needs to stop posting videos of her Christmas shopping & do the right thing. Do.the.right.thing like the counselor did. How can you live with yourself!?!
Why are you jumping on Rebecca Weiss?
It's Rachel's husband who is alleged to do bad things.
Rebecca won't allow him around her own children either.
@@GypsyGirl317 Rebecca needs to speak up unless she's also controlled.
Well said, Owl
@@GypsyGirl317 She should state publicly that she won't allow him near her children and that she witnessed inappropriate touching and kissing of the little girl early in the sequence of events (2020).
Johnathan has always known he would not become the president of Daystar as long as his mother is living.
Joni and Daystar are using that narrative that he was disappointed with not having the position. Also, in the tape message, Jonathan stated that he had never had a bad review or been disciplined for any wrongdoing on his job and had never been written up and that he had always respected Joni. Joni and Daystar are now stating that Jonathan was a bad employee.
Thank you! About time someone came forward to tell the truth! 👍💫
I believe Jonathan and Suzy💯‼️
"Pete" FOLLOWED their daughter upstairs, when she went to change into her swimsuit!
And Rebecca (the youngest sister in the Lamb family) warned Johnathan and Suzy that the perp improperly kissed and stroked their little girl in front of her. And the nanny hired by the young parents was disturbed that the perp went to the house to visit the little girl specifically when the parents were not at home. The nanny was hired because the little girl was too upset to go to Daystar and see the perp in person.
It wasn't Johathan who objected, it was Suzy who felt uncomfortable reading praise of the marriage. J&S' s daughter said the person was taller than dad. Joni claims it was a little boy at the school which is slandering the school that has no men working there.
💯 so true! Joni lied big time repeatedly on her PR damage control panel discussion with her fake and paid off women asking her side of the story. What a joke!
Oops there were 2 different situations with the child. One at school with a little boy and one at the beach house. 2 different situations. Yes Laura got a scoop. I’m not so sure she have shared that. Couldn’t she lose her license too?
@@dorothywillms115 There was no abuse at school; it was speculated by Suzy that her little girl had been abused either at school or Daystar when she learned from her young daughter in November 2020 that someone had placed their fingers in her genital area. When Suzy learned there was no adult male working at the school by a process of elimination it was someone at Daystar. Other incidents then pointed to the perp.
There's no excuse for covering up child sexual abuse ....and it will clearly.shpw in the days ahead, it was swept under the rug . NO EXCUSE. CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT AND NEED TO BE PROTECTED AT ALL COST.
Joni is not telling the truth. It will all come out! God is cleansing His church! 🙏
The root goes back long before the child incident. Maybe even before Marcus’s unfaithfulness.
That was a cover up for sexual abuse from back then. Please see the podcast by Ohio For Freedom.
Don’t forget Joni had a conversation with the girl, just the 2 of them. Perhaps the reason the girl isn’t naming the man is because Joni got in her head one way or another. Sad nonetheless.
I believe what they say about his brother-in-law “Pete”, and I am horrified by how Marcus and Joni have covered it up before even starting any investigation, and that is probably the reason why Marcus died 4 months later (I know another similar case with a pastor), what they did to their own granddaughter is a not only a sin but a crime.
The thing is that Jonathan and his wife have brought everything to light after they were fired and the possibility of Jonathan becoming President of Daystar faded away. This couple are implying that God has chosen them to be the head of this “ministry” (business) that they have not built. Apparently the horrible issue of their daughter was not serious enough for them to make them quit their jobs and bring the case to light. Shame on them!
As king David Marcus had opened a horrible door when he was in adultery for 7 years! Then Joni’s father was accused of sexual harassment and then one of his sons-in-law, the one with the creepy look, appeared on the scene.
I have the impression that the marrage counsellor whom Joni invited to the threat&bullying session with young Lambs believes something like "man should leave his wife and cling to his mother ".
He doesn't, but he is following along for some reason and that is a million dollar question.
Why aren’t the sisters backing up their brother and their niece! Because they know it’s true and they don’t wanna lose their job and make their mother angry! That is so shameful. That is not Christlike. Shame on you lamb sisters.
She fired him when he filed a police report then he released the tapes.
LilaRose, for everyone who believes the lie and manipulation line about how we should not judge, Christians just love that line don't they. I have this to say, we must judge, we are called to judge Righteously read John 7:24.
9:33 ‘feeling’ are real, but they are seldom an accurate reflection of reality.
The only evidence that needs to be heard is a forensic evaluation of the child independently done by the police only. Until then it will be a she said, he said situation which leads to nowhere! A possible accusation of coaching of the child is coming so beware! Please protect yourself because the battle will be tough, ugly, and unmerciful! Child protective service may be called and they are a double edge sword; Get an advance on them by taking independent psychological evaluations yourself and not be overly emotional in your dealing because they will use anything against you; please rule out any mental health accusation that will eventually be made ; remember the chilling words of J? ( that the mother of the child was getting angrier and angrier at a random man at the grocery store and was accusing the man?) I’m persuaded she has many stories such as this. Her lawyers may build a case of mental health and or spite against the parent. Any past, present behaviors or statement by the parent will be scrutinized by the legal system and their lawyers! So hopefully the father of the child’s motive aren’t intertwined with vengeance! I suggest that the couple stopped talking to journalists and bloggers altogether unless be directed to do so by an attorney! I doubt an attorney will allow it because a child’s intimacy and privacy is also at stake. Please run anything by an experienced sexual abuse attorney! The custody of your child is at stake; if in anyway the judge suspects coaching or undue influence of the child from a report done on the child, by child protective service, or police the child will be removed for safety concerns pending a mental health evaluation on all parties! Please get two legal counsel immediately if the parent haven’t done so already. One sexual abuse attorney and the other an attorney specialized in employment law and defamation. I saw them on random blogs and channels just talking and talking 😔, remember the privacy of the child will also be evaluated by Cps or judge. If the parents display an appearance of not protecting the child even in her privacy it can be look down and frown by the court; J. is a relative of the child and may have a leg up if mistakes are made and she may claim custody! Any judge will be more likely to give her custody if she appears more stable and passed the forensic evaluation. Think about it! All that to say that this couple needs to be wisdom minded, very strategic in every move they make. Yes this is emotional but again if the wolves can hide abuse they can also build a case against the parent for removal of the child! There are way too many victims parents or mothers that have been labeled paranoiac, overly fearful and anxious, or been diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder or even revengeful by the big wolves and or a court ordered psychological evaluator; the little people get crushed many time! This couple needs professional counsel and be careful and wise as serpent!
I thought of this scenario, too. But I doubt if Doug would want to start off his new marriage by raising Joni's grandchildren. But if vengeance takes over, J and S better get wise counsel from God each day and probably lawyer up w/ the best they can get. I'm praying that righteousness, truth, justice and peace will prevail over all of this debacle.
Joni get custody?? You are smokin' crack for even thinking that. Their kid is not going to be taken from them. You have know idea what you are talking about.
@ I wrote in “ may be” “ could happen” May happen” is a suggestion I’m not smoking anything but you are may be under the influence of something strong and delusional to think that this couple’s mental health or background past statement and behaviors or even their public display of private informations of their child won’t be scrutinized by powerful attorneys from the network. This story can turn into a nasty battle as far as questioning the fitness of the parent. I’m in the legal field without entering into much details and I dealt first hand with this type of situation. I’m urging for protection and shielding themselves from unnecessary hurdles that may emphasis on “ may” come and bite them especially if they are also suing the network. Instead of giving them your weak support of display of outrage please add also informed and loving advice in looking at all aspect of the situation good or bad! We are praying for the best but again the devil run around seeking whom he may devour. Jesus said to sit down and count the cost of battle. This a spiritual battle but also a highly publicized legal case where reputation of the network is on the line. They won’t stop at nothing! Good luck on your delusion!
Behavior Panelists should watch the videos. There's no real debate about which party is lying. Joni, it's Joni lying.
Gosh as a parent if I had any inkling of creepiness why on Earth would you go to another overnight gathering with the creep? I would keep my children in the same room with me and eyes on all the time. A mother’s intuition is better than any forensic investigation.
So in other words Marcus and Joni lied yeah that really looks good that right there tells you all you need to know I also heard a recording of Susie just crying her heart out to a friend because Joanie didn't respect their boundaries with her home and her kids and came on over anyway no I think Joe needs a horrible person and that man she married is a real creep
Why do we have to call him Pete?
Because there has to be a fall guy to take the blame. His name will eventually be 30:2, to do it now would make a hotter fire on Joni. She is buying time while she makes her next move. She chose her flesh and blood to take throw under the bus while she plans how to keep her money. Judgement day is coming SOON and she can't take her empire with her. It broke my heart for Jonathan to have to have to hear his mother say to millions of people that he was doing a smear campaign.
The journalists used the pseudo name “Pete” because formal charges have not been brought against Joshua Brown, Rachel Lamb Brown’s husband. This is an attempt to protect the identity of the man accused of molesting the little girl.
@rebaramsey7585 because until he's charged you can be sued for defamation
@@bethstruck9084 yes, this.
Legal requirement to not name him outside of the police investigation.
According to biblical passages, particularly Luke 12:2-3 and Luke 8:17, Mark 4:22 “what is in the darkness” refers to secrets, hidden actions, and concealed intentions. The verse promises that these will be “brought into the light” or “revealed” in due time.
Stand w jonathan and susie
Johnathon was spiritually abused by his mother. He then believed his father and mother when they stated that they did an internal investigation on “Pete” but they lied. So now that he is no longer in her power he is able to gather information and he was validated that what he assumed as abuse truly was. So it wasn’t that he wanted the position because if he did he would of just made the statement on their show. Johnathon had always been a good son. So it is Joni lamb that’s the issue and the liar.
So when Join committed adultery by marrying an adulterer she had more problems with her son…hmmmm 🤔
Joni is tracking, following, investigating, photographing, serving papers to, and firing the wrong guy.........instead of Jonathan it should be whoever hurt the little girl...I think they said it was Pete?
They’re using the name Pete because he hasn’t been convicted yet. But it’s Joni’s son in law.
It is Rachael's husband Joshua Brown...
Like all of us, Joni needs a spiritual heart check. Things don’t appear right in her demeanor in my opinion. ❤😊
Joni married her and Marcus's therapist. Immediately after his death.
Yeah so sketch
Wish a real investigation is being done instead of all this talk and talk so the truth will be uncovered.
The investigation has reopened & is still pending
These are two separate issues: child abuse and job performance.
The firing for poor job performance (refusing to do what their job calls for) is warranted, as any large corporation would do (that's the reality of the real world). If you disagree with the President of the company, then you have to either leave on your own volition or expect to be fired for refusing to do your job.
As for the child abuse....'who' is this 'Pete' and why was it so important to defend him and clear his name. Why was this 'Pete' (and his family!!!) still involved and included in the Lamb family activities if they even remotely had any doubts or suspicions (!!!). Lots more involved here...and probably lots more to come.
This was not just Joni Lamb, it was also Marcus Lamb.
Denise Boggs had an interview with Laura- Lynn Tyler Thompson. She was the ‘formula forensic counselor’- assigned by Marcus and Joni Lamb.
27 mins into the interview is where she tells Laura that there was no formal internal investigation as she is not a licensed professional counselor nor hired by Joni or Marcus.
It was simply a lot of prayer of them praying together as a family.
But- again, Joni is lying. There was no formal investigation.
And there was NOT one person who was assigned to do a formal investigation.
Denise recommended Rachel and Pete meet with a Forensic counselor at her retreat center in North Carolina to answer questions.
Pete did not answer the questions of the counselor at the assessment.
Rachel was speaking for him, not letting him speak. So the assessment was incomplete.
Pete was asked to go back to answer by himself and he refused.
Marcus prayed about it and was told by God to let it go and move forward. Pete did not get clearance or release.
Their was a person assigned by Denise Boggs to do a forensic investigation that was Debbie Lyonhart. She is licensed to complete that type of investigation for over 25 years, so very experienced and credible. The alleged molester would not answer her questions directly or meet with her on his own. Rachel, his wife did all the talking for him. She could not complete the investigation due to lack of cooperation by Joshua or "Pete". Jonathan and Suzy were told by Joni and Marcus that Joshua was cleared of all charges by this investigator. That was and is a lie.
Well Marcus was not praying to the real God but to the god of this world,satan. I always thought God allowed him to be taken out for a reason. I really do not think he is in Heaven,big phoney.
Praying for our leaders and for justice, tempered with mercy, for the weak.
Friday, on the December 6th Day of Advent, it's the Feast Day of Saint Nicholas, and will be praying to our Lord Jesus for children through the intercession of Nicholas (patron saint of children, bakers, and pawnbrokers).
Hope you Lila, your family, and everyone here has a light-filled peaceful joyful blessed Merry Christmas week.
The world's thy ship and not thy home.”
-Saint Therese of Lisieux
John 14:30-31 I will no longer speak much with you, for the ruler of the world is coming. He has no power over me, but the world must know that I love the Father and that I do just as the Father has commanded me. Get up, let us go.
"To love is to will the good of another."
-St. Thomas Aquinas
1 John 4:16 We have come to know and to believe in the love God has for us.
God is love, and whoever remains in love remains in God and God in him.
Psalm 34:19 The Lord is close to the brokenhearted, saves those whose spirit is crushed.
Sirach 35:16-20 He shows no partiality to the weak but hears the grievance of the oppressed. He does not forsake the cry of the orphan, nor the widow when she pours out her complaint. Do not the tears that stream down her cheek cry out against the one that causes them to fall? Those who serve God to please him are accepted; their petition reaches the clouds.
1 Samuel 16:7 But the Lord said to Samuel: Do not judge from his appearance or from his lofty stature, because I have rejected him. God does not see as a mortal, who sees the appearance. The Lord looks into the heart.
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give it to you. Do not let your hearts be troubled or afraid.
John 17: 20-21 '“I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me."
Amen.. Thank you and God bless you and your families John Henry and Lyla Rose ❤❤❤🕊🌹🙏
@@rennell714 Thank you so much! God bless you and your family as well.
The enemy is working overtime, but GOD WILL get the glory as we Trust and obey The Lord of Lords and King of Kings.
@romeroylr Amen! God bless you and yours.
Be careful because Nick Jones reported on Daystar and he got a letter from their lawyers saying that he's going to be sued if he doesn't retract the RUclips. He said nothing wrong he was just saying he's her allegations but you still got the letter he was bullied and now this is even worse because we really want to know the truth and I do believe Jonathan and Susie.
Please investigate what happened at RZIM. That family is sticking together and by Ravi and they have been robbed of their ministry.
Are you talking about The apologetic pastor who passed away several years ago?
I will look into this. Thank you!
Tbh they are all word of faith false teachers that do need to now the actual Gospel of Scripture and how to remain in the God given faith
Joni lamb is a disgusting narcissist not a Christian.
I am so sick of non-Christians who act the part giving the rest of us a bad name.
Are there any proof of abuse and covering up? At this time no one knows exactly what happened - so let us pray and wait for documentation. It is not fair to paint this all over the internet without proof of these actions. Let us guard our mouths and own behavior.
Jimmy Evans is a false teacher, who adds to God's word upon any whim that works best for his compromising and greedy ways (i.e., addiction and abuse are grounds for divorce, although separation and a restorative process may be acceptable for these two things, divorce is NOT). Thus, touting Jimmy Evans as a 'respected' Bible teacher and marriage counselor in this false puff piece on him is laughably absurd. And this video was a great revelation about Doug Weiss, thank you, as a person who is an "intimacy" therapist, who struggled with "intimacy" addition. No wonder Jonathan and Suzy were unsettled and concerning this man, he's a sexual pervert, likely committed adultery, and illegitimately divorced his first wife! Then, Jimmy Evans approves of this pervert and marries him to Joni!!! Jimmy Evans totally had to have known about Robert Morris's pedophilia, all the years he ran with him, and never said anything about it (though I'm sure he would deny it too), because Morris gave his XO Ministry a platform, and likely some financial help, at Gateway church. And now Evans is helping Joni cover up multiple pedophilia assaults on her own granddaughter, from a family member named as 'Pete', which most think is a son-in law, who does not want to go to prison for 99 years (without parole), or possible face the death penalty in Texas for what he did. This disclosure would bury Day Star. Joni and the other corrupt leadership there at Day Star realize this, so they will lie and deny, project and slander, as it is now their hill the have chosen to die on. The threats of Day Star's lawsuits are a joke, for if any jury hears the testimony of what happened to Jonathan and Suzy's daughter and the cover up involved in court, the verdict will go hard against Day Star and all the those involved in the criminal conspiracy cover up of the horrible crimes that were committed against this poor little 5 year old child. No one with a good and clear conscience should ever donate any money to Day Star, or the leadership jackals involved in this scandal again. It needs to fall into the abyss and never rise again. Evans needs to be run out of all Christian ministry 'leadership' work permanently, as he is a Jim Jones, authoritarian cult leader waiting to happened. No one should drink his kool-aid ever!
They did talk about the abuse in the audio.
On the released audio with Jimmy from 29:18 - Jimmy quotes the other family members "Douge is Evil. Douge is a predator." And Joni talks about how Suzy was convinced and hung up on how Pete molested her daughter and they had to do a lot to show her he didn't, as a point to say she lacks reason.
Great job reporting. Facts, not personal opinion. Great job
Joni lamb should apologize for calling the podcasters "lowlife". I hope she wasn't being racist and referring it to black people and she is Mexican. A white Mexican.
PS. Then he married Joni. Joni and her late husband Marcus and the new husband and his wife were best friends.
NO. They had met each other a few times and had Doug on the show.
It all sounds so Jerry Springer & trashy.
@@chrissybloulam2585So true!!!
Lila you have explained this story so clearly! Suzy and Johnthan talk in cycles and say nothing much!!
There's a photo of Pete, when he got married, and the little girl was looking at him; that wedding photo says it all.😢
Dont go to the police we will do an investigation.