Are Immigration And Border Checks Problems For Sinn Féin?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- As asylum seekers arrive in Ireland from GB following a crack down by Rishi Sunak's government and greater calls for checks on the border between ROI and NI, is this creating a problem for Sinn Féin?
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How can we support someone who turned their backs on us
As me oul maths teacher used to say, get out you, you're gan.
We don't
I couldn't agree with you more, I would have considered voting for SF but the referendum certainly not they've done absolutely nothing zero
oh, stop your crying-go vote for FF or FG and get the same old support for landlords and developers. Grow up
@@MartinGoff-tl6nx both of those parties have hung themselves, nobody but party drones will be voting for them
I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR SINN FIEN
I will.
Me too.
@@Prodrive1 No one I know says that. Where about you from?
@@Prodrive1who are SF traitor to?
By the way is actually spelled Sinn Féin not sinn fiein.
They are finished for what they done to Ireland stood back and let everything happen
Let what happen exactly?
Do you mean not allowing the british government to weaponize waves of refugees to force the Border to be Closed, so the british can once again drag people into the street and execute them for their religion or intern people into concentration camps???? Also SF isn't in Government in Ireland, so why is a government opposition party being attacked.... in all fairness to M16, your british handlers are brilliant.
Traitors
Ff and fg started it, who are you voting for?
Big Traitors, fight Globalism. Give independents a chance as a "block".
@@trashcanman5257started what? SF have not been in opposition to anything they are bought and paid for by the EU as are FF and FG. The fact that every one of them voted for the ridiculous “hate speech” proposal and are now starting to walk it back along with some Labour TD’s . Enough of who are you voting for it’s none of your business but I will be voting for someone who has the best interest of Irish people at their core. Or as dullards would say a “far-right” party.
@@chuckyarlaw7380You think freedom Ireland or the Irish nationalist party has the best interests of the Irish people at heart? As a fellow Irish voter would you care to explain to me how a vote for parties like that would benefit me?
My comment was removed that people quite nicely and respectfully responded to.
Yes they have shown their true colours and will lose a huge amount of supporters , they are finished along with FF , FG and greens
Hope so
So who's going to lead the country then ? Far right parties? Just what are they going to do for you?
I see. So you're expecting the National Party to form the next government?
If that happens it will solve the immigration issues as everyone will want to emigrate as soon as they come to power.
I think it is the Loyalists in Ireland that have shown their true colours. SF isn't in Government in Ireland, so why is a government opposition party being attacked.... in all fairness to M16, your british handlers are brilliant!!!
Double its numbers? Are you joking me. I don’t know anybody that is one bit happy with any of the establishment parties, especially Sinn Fein. They are in for a big shock
Then why aren't the polls reflective of that?
No answer.
@@cjm3109 they are traitors to the Irish people with their open borders and trans cult indoctrination. 100% the polls are wrong, just like they were completely wrong on the referendum and you know it. I’ve my ear to the ground and anybody that I know that voted for them in the past will tell you they are not voting for them again. Have a look at all the comments on any social media platform and that will tell they are the most hated party in the country, and that’s hard to believe after what FF,FG and the Greens have done to our beautiful country.
@@gavfitzpatrickNot the polls I saw. It was very mixed. I suppose your going to tell me that us Irish women all stood up for our right to be forever bare foot and pregnant in the kitchen? 😂
@@dublinbay2362Uh huh. There are doctors that can help you, you know.
I live in that little town in Ireland all over the news called Newtownmountkennedy. There isn’t even enough money for a community centre, housing, schools, transport, etc. Nothing to do and all day to do it. In a City or big town , facilities are there. 2,500 people trying to live in a pretty bleak place and refugees are told they can erect tents to survive a mile away from any infrastructure. No government TD has any people on their doorstep that their locals are uncomfortable with. I genuinely feel sorry for the immigrants and thank god for them it’s not raining sleet and continuous rain. 🤷♂️
All the parties are in trouble
We have proportional representation here
A lot people I know are not going use their 2nd or3rd choice in the elections
They will only pick one
I would say a lot people will vote for independents
I hope to god you're right.
Depends on the independent. If it's someone from the far right, they won't be elected.
@@joekavanagh7171 I will vote for them any thing to upset the political establishment
@@joekavanagh7171 Who are the 'far right'? Name one if you can.
@@sicksquid3258 far right are anyone standing on an anti-immigration ticket. I don't know their names because they are too insignificant for me to care about. But I can tell you one thing. Most of them will struggle to keep their deposits if they decide to run for election. It's easy to be opposed to something. It's far more difficult to be constructive, and people have far more pressing issues than immigration.
Border checks when coming from GB to all of Ireland including NI. We need to protect the 32 counties
@@AntiAntiSepticUK I’m in the 6 counties so can’t. But I would not vote for a west Brit
Unification is the answer. Then Ireland controls all the external borders.
@@jamesprivet 100% right
Not permitted under the GFA.
Just as you DEMANDED!
You need to read the Belfast Agreement..........ZERO border changes without the "expressed will of both communities"! 🤔
They have lost a lot of support
Not re the most recent poll
Recent polls begs to differ! What is this tactic of yours? Say it enough times and maybe it'll come true?
The government needs to listen to the general consensus and feeling of the public, They said no, and rightly so.
How do you know what the "general consensus" is?
The vast majority have not expressed any opinion.
Are you just making stuff up?
@noelpucarua2843
So all the protests aren't happening up and down the country. What about the little boy in Cork and the women and children, who didn't ask to be subjected to cultural enrichment?
@@paulie-Gualtieri. Any group can stage a protest. They will get a certain level of support. But that doesn't mean they speak for the majority. My town has a population of 10,000. At a recent anti-immigration protest there were less than 50 people. Loud does not always mean popular.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. All the protests? There's only been a small number of idiots and thugs. Talk about trying to blow it out of proportion.
@joekavanagh7171
75% of several polls have said immigration is too high and that the country has taken in too many refugees.
When you have 100 tents popping up overnight then we all have a problem.
Yes, but the problem is a lack of housing, not migrants. They are just a convenient scapegoat for the far right.
@@joekavanagh7171would disagree. We have 14-18k people coming in every month. Rodric said it on 6:1
Some are coming illegally.
@@Lala-kc2fwthere should be a presumption they are all,illegal until shown to be the contrary. We should only take in genuine asylum seekers and economic migrants with useful skills.
It's not that long ago people used to say the same about you lot.
@@TheLucanicLord When they needed roads and railways built!
SF keep moving the goal posts to get Votes and people see tru their nonsense…
Sinn Féin wants a United Ireland, that's the goalposts.
@@roisinmalone3015 Well they need to Stop migrants coming from Belfast…
They happily woo the foreigners for votes and you can see it's republican areas that are being swamped with economic migrants so it's their own communities that they are hurting. Hopefully unlike the idiots in Derry the voters will have the wit to think of their children's future first
Too late
@@roisinmalone3015I don't think half these posters are even Irish Roisin. Check that ones comment history. Seems to be from the UK. Theyre Just trying to stir up trouble.
Race has fuck all to with it. It's gaping cultural differences.
Culture isn't and has never been a static thing
@@stephengallagher2209
That's a racist comment
@@stephengallagher2209 Can you explain what exactly you mean by "IQ"?
Can you point out the gene that is linked to crime?
If you can't, don't you think you'd be better of not mentioning "IQ"?
What's wrong with cultural differences? I think they add to a society rather than detract from it. I find other cultures fascinating.
Culture has little to do with it for me either tbh, pray to whichever god works for ye for all I care... its a numbers game as far as I can see... same number of houses and jobs available but an ever increasing population = lower wages, higher housing costs and a tighter stretch on all public services.
The unionist would call them sinn féin ira, I think they could be called sinn féin wef now
Sinn Féin, what??
Exactly they are globalist traitors with no interest in Ireland or the Irish
@@roisinmalone3015 There's loads of comments like this today. Absolute gobbledygook 😂😂
*gobbledygook
@@cjm3109 Sinn Fein are treacherous globalist scum they are not Irish Nationalists and have no interest or concern for the future of Ireland or the Irish they just spout the same old United Ireland rhetoric and that's as far as their interest goes.
I have travelled from Scotland to northern Ireland & the police checked everyone's identity. So the only way for the asylum seekers to get from gb to Ireland are uk government supported as the police are allowing this.
In the year ending December 2022, over 19,000 visas were issued to Algerian nationals, a 76% increase from the previous year these are holiday visas and are being used to get into the common travel area.
Just like the French are complicit in sending them to UK
@@lordsummerisle852🤡
I transited through Heathrow en route to Dublin and I was asked if I was "political".
Sinn Fein are me feiners and their mask has fallen off, there are no checks on the border nor will there be, you are way off on this entire subject to the reality on the ground in Ireland.
Bread and butter issues? The main issues for Ireland are the same as any where else. Set a manifesto and deliver on it. Say something after an election and do it. 1 major issues. Imigrants may add to stress on services and houses. But if you take immigration away you will still have strained service and housing . Many politicians dont priotise things that matter to those that dont have a lot of money or power. This group of society dont help the politicians there there is no reason the politicains to help them. I think Ireland, like the Britain. Needs to be careful allowing immigration to be used as an method for the government not to deliver on promises. I cant help but feel we are being guided to look at the issue of immigration and away from NHS funding , house building. People who arent here yet are being used as an excuse to avoid what we should really be worrying about. Will our children be able live away from home? Will our grand kids have decent schools?
With the amount of money being made from bringing people into the country. They will simply find other ways of doing it. The Rwanda thing will cost so much money and deliver very little. If they end up in Ireland that will save Britain money. Why would Britain want that to stop?
It dumps the problem on Irelands door.
The issue with the Irish is their lack of understanding of the technical political issues that Ireland faces. It is estimated that at least 60% of those entering Ireland illegally do so by plane without proper documentation. This indicates a clear policy issue that involves Irish politics and foreign influences. These matters are often overlooked in order to avoid addressing very serious existing issues, which can be deduced and evidenced through self-examination.
I'm sorry to say this, but what doesn't help is £6m a day (and counting) having to be spent on asaylum seeker accommodation.
@@paulherlihy9290 especially when asylum seekers are not allowed to work and pay for their own accommodation.
@@joekavanagh7171 but you don't know who they are Joe.
Identitys have to be checked before anyone can get a job. And I'm not even going to mention references.
I can't go for any job with a name that can't be verified, with a record that can't be checked.
Why do you think there is such a backlog in the asylum system because people are saying they are one person and that person can't be verified.
Incidentally alot of people are given asylum inspite of this. They are just being taken at face value.
Let's have safe and proper routes set for people to apply for asylum so that every country in Europe
can take their fair share.
However how that works is easier said than done.
But we must try.
Brexiters are whining about a few thousand people crossing the Channel but say nothing about smol PM Richy granting 1,816,000 long term immigration visas to non-EU nationals in 2 years 2022-2023 (mostly from India, Nigeria, China and Pakistan. ONS). Weird🙄
Don't forget Boris gave British overseas passports to all Hong Kong nationals that apply! That's potentially another 7 million😂🤣
Not really, there`s a difference between asking to come and being accepted or turning up uninvited.
@@brutusbastados4801 people turn up uninvited because there are no safe legal routes
@@joekavanagh7171In 2023, 102,283 people were offered a safe and legal (humanitarian) route to the UK, including refugees resettled to the UK and family members of refugees.
People voted Brexit on the back of this issue. The problem was open borders was never going to change as it was a globalist agenda that all nations adhered to. I posted warning about long before Brexit happened and knew it would get worse after not better. It's about destroying us as native Europeans you're all waking up now
She takes her guidance from the Sinn Fein standing committee so theres always a bit of a pause on the line while she consults with them - just like the old days
You mean the army council? They haven't gone away you know.....
There also "temporary" checks between Germany and Denmark and Austria. sigh
it's bread and butter issues that the electorate are concerned with!
@@angusmckenzie9622It's not changing rapidly. Bread and butter issues will always be what matter to most people. Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.
@angusmckenzie9622 Not just illegal immigration, but all immigration.
Ireland's population in 2000 was 3.8 million. By 2023, it had swelled to 5.08 million, despite a recession in 2008 that saw many people emmigrate from the country. The population increase is due to mass immigration, plain and simple
Today, 1 in 5 people in Ireland weren't born there, and in some towns and villages, Irish people are now a tiny minority of residents. They work and are educated with people from vastly different cultures, and they feel like foreigners in their own country.
The Irish are a welcoming people, but most of them are completely against becoming a minority in Ireland, seeing their culture be washed away by a tsunami of mass immigration and allowing foreigners to take the reins of power.
The rate of illegal migration to Ireland is 10 times the EU average. This is now a significant safety concern, because the Irish state does not vett immigrants properly - they have only just discovered that an Iraqi national is a convicted sex offender, even though he sued the state in a high profile case last year.
Immigrants have also committed som atrocious crimes in the past couple of years: the murder of a young teacher who was jogging, the stabbing of young schoolgirls and their teacher, several high profile r*pes, and the butchering of 2 gay men for their sexuality.
Couple that with a housing crisis, a healthcare system that's on its knees, and the rising cost of living, and it should come as no surprise to hear that resentment towards migrants, especially those who demand money from the Irish taxpayer, is growing.
Seeing Ireland's political class p*ss away Ireland's future in the name of wokeness is infuriating.
@@angusmckenzie9622 cjm is just a pest who thinks Marxism actually works ( special 🧒 )
@@cjm3109they're not asylum seekers those genuine would remain in the first country of safety
@@Jess-C Really? And if they were under threat of being deported to Rwanda? You don't think maybe they wouldn't consider that too safe?
Border checks have never been a problem in ROI even before the GFA. But then, from January 1993, there were never permanent checkpoints with infrastructure on the ROI side of the border.
Since the GFA has come into effect there have been mobile checkpoints in Counties, Donegal, Sligo, Leitrim, Cavan, Monaghan and Louth operated by -
1). Customs & Excise (C&E) for fireworks prior to Halloween, but mostly diesel dipping checkpoints, but often multi agency (Garda, Tax Office, Welfare Office) to flush out welfare and tax cheats and that motorists have licences and insurance appropriate for the jurisdiction they reside in.
2). Garda National Immigration Bureau (GNIB) mobile checkpoint, mostly aimed at buses, to ensure there are no abuses of the Common Travel Area (CTA).
3). Garda speed checks and drink driving checkpoints.
Nothing to see here --- move along now. Business as usual.
When I was a teenager in the North in the very troubled 1980s travel to the South and back was always check-free.
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A big problem is a whole network advertising for jobs in Ireland and elsewhere. Example is "Clara Immigration" and/or "Job Abrodia". "Clara Immigration" lives and acts in Northern Ireland while she keeps advertising Free Visa Jobs in Ireland, in Britain, Sweden, Luxembourg and the list goes on, while filling her own pockets with money and scamming those, who are interested and most likely are vulnerable. I do not understand why these adverts and channels are not taken down, since they certainly are part of the problems countries are facing! In other words, the UK keeps dumping immigrants they don't want into Ireland. Of course "Clara Immigration" will not provide "services" for free and out of the goodness of her heart. Those interested will be paying nice sums of money, though if they were contacting Embassies of these countries first, they certainly would be told what exactly to do and get this information for free. In other words, scammers in action and nobody is doing anything about it
AGREE
No borders. No benefits will solve the problems no money no honey they’ll not come 🇮🇪
Spot on 100% they stop comeing
NGO carers will feed them,...hahaha...lol.
@@Bimmeroo090-cl5cz Yes, that whole Christian compassion thing. Not everyone thinks that "Christian" just means you look the other way when a priest fiddles with a kiddie.
@@TorIverWilhelmsen Wow that was so dumb.😂
@@ughcoty No, dumb is letting the priests get away with it. Also, saying you are a Christian nation (I think Ireland still does?) and not heeding the woprd about taking good care of the foreigner in your country.
Northern Ireland is not Britain it is a part of the UK
I think Ul find it’s a part of Ireland my friend.
@@AntiAntiSepticUK
What does that mean?
Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. Britain is just short for Great Britain which is a combination of Scotland, Wales England and the surrounding islands except the Ireland. I have admit it’s is confusing.
@@toffy1952
Except that Northern Ireland is a colony.
@@roisinmalone3015 the people in NI voted to stay with the UK and until they state otherwise their wishes should be respected. I don’t see Ireland complaining that we provide their protection with our defence system.
So we hear your far right now father
No, the silent majority will vote elswhere. We know their policy on open borders. We know they backed the government parties in the last referendums against the will of the majority. We also know that they want to keep running the referendums until they get the answer they want.
So no no no
No party has a policy re open borders.
@roisinmalone3015 all parties agree with open borders.
I will be quite frankly amazed if even one far right candidate gets elected to the next Dail. It's only a small but very loud minority who are doing all the mouthing off about immigration. Immigration does not affect the ordinary lives of most people, who have far more important priorities. Loud does not equate to popular.
@@joekavanagh7171Spot on 👍
@@hughboyle7251
That's not true.
I really enjoy this channel. Im from the states but lived in the UK for about 15 years so i like to keep up with whats happening on both sides of the sea. Im seeing a pattern here. Same use of particular words. And a lot of that stuff is very familiar because it starts here in the states and it seems like over there they just pick up the vinacular literally word for word. And concern by concern. Everyone can't be having the same immigration problem, im sorry. This is election season, most of these people are bought off by corporate interests and we have reached the point in the political cycle where they have nothing to offer the common people but fear. How about creating conditions so people don't have to leave. You can't extract their wealth, then tell them to fuck otf when things get dire mainly because of "commerce". Im just not buying the scare-tactic and all the talk about "rural and working class" voters. All the "new speak." Its really insulting.
When you say create conditions were they don't have to leave do you mean in their own countries ?? If they were actually having issues there I might understand that the truth is many if the West Africans we get coming here are the wealthy ones (big and fat means you're doing alright there) they come here and Ponce of our benefit system living for free while retaining their business interests back home
spot on.
I’ve seen checks on busses going to Dublin from Belfast years ago. Checks are nothing new.
The RED C poll May 24 for the Business Post suggests that Sinn Féin's support fell by four points, compared to last month, to 23%.
In May 2022, the party stood at 36%! The party has blown it!
It's very easy to Police one Port in Belfast, or Stranraer.
Not Rocket Science.
The British don't want to.
@@SirAntoniousBlock That's about the size of it.
We want Britain gone out of Ireland.
@@Judgementday-qp1ol The British are doing the same thing as Belarus did opening it's borders so that refugees from Syria could flood into Poland.
It's a deliberate tactic.
Max, Max,
This is a huge problem here in the republic!
Max isn't affected by economic migrants problems in his neighbourhood he just sits in his snotty ivory tower telling everyone they're racists and the problem is not enough housing where does the money come from Max in your deluded little Marxist world ??? It comes out of our pockets and the mouths of our families that's where
No there's not. Most people's lives are not remotely affected by immigration.
I’m inclined to agree with some of the comments below, Sinn Fein are in serious trouble. This goes well beyond the incumbent government. The majority of SF voters are in working class areas especially in Dublin, and these ares have been impacted mostly by the mass immigration we are currently seeing.
A “new Ireland” with social equality, more housing and the end of partition sounds wonderful but NEVER at the expense of Ireland’s identity, culture and way of life.
SF needs to get to grips with this issue urgently. They need to make it clear as crystal they don’t support mass immigration, they want more controls on Irelands borders, they want deportation if an asylum seeking does not qualify for asylum. They need to act like a proper opposition to the Irish government. Only then will they might start to win back public opinion and their voters. Their voters are moving to anti-immigration parties.
Where are you getting all that nonsense from. Sinn Féin are not in trouble according to polls. Wishful thinking?
They don't support mass immigration.
They support the international system.
SF butchered protestants in the north and guess what the sheeple still voted them in so I’d put a pound to a euro their voters will still put an x on the ballot paper next to them problems with immigration or no problems with immigration
@@cjm3109 i don’t wish this on SF, I’m concerned for the party. They are losing voters. People who traditionally vote for them are referring to them as “traitors” and are saying they will be voting anti-immigration parties. Immigration is now the number one political issue in Ireland, not housing. They have dropped 5 points in the polls in the last 6 months.
@@markstar6056 They are not loosing voters. It's a small minority of idiots. Sinn Féin have regained 4 points in the last poll. Maybe you should keep up to date.
You bet they re in trouble.
I will be voting for the National Party No.1 in the upcoming European and Local elections. We need a true nationalist alternative that will put the Irish people first, unlike the traitors in Sinn Féin
Here here Sinn Fein are traitors to the Irish people
It will be a wasted vote. No one from the National party will ever win a seat. People want constructive policies, not negative ones.
Is that the National Party led by Justin Barrett ???? or the National Party led by James Reynolds ?????
If you are voting in the Midlands-North-West constituency in the Euros, make sure to give both of them a Number One.
The nationalist party is far right nationalism. I'll be voting for Sinn Féin.
@@cjm3109I voted sf last time. They fudged themselves
I think you are right in some ways, but have missed a key point in others. The Irish government (FF/FG/Greens) have taken a dictorial approach, refusing to listen to its people and shoehorned an estimated180,000 of mostly illegal males into towns and villages that can't support them in terms of housing and services. Peaceful protesters have be vilified in the state run media (RTE) as far right extremists and racist, and where the police force (Garda) have used extreme brutality against protesters. Bus loads of illegal immigrants arrive at night and dumped into communities without any consultation whatsoever, with the result people don't feel safe in the streets or their homes. Their are Irish citizens who have been on housing waiting lists for 20 years only to see new homes being built and then handed over to illegal immigrants as soon as they arrive. The Irish government has a policy of not asking how they got into the country, you simply turn up and ask where is your new house. Illegal immigrants get a whole range of state benefits that no Irish citizen could ever hope to have, these include free accommodation, free food, free medical card, free transport, we even pay for them to bring their pets over, they get all state welfare and benefits, and free university education etc.,. The people of Ireland are struggling with a cost of living crisis and a housing crisis and at the same time people are waltzing in from anywhere and everywhere and they have access to all of this, which we have to pay for. The Irish government now wants to introduce a hate speech law that would outlaw criticizing illegal immigrants, so you can't even complain about it. Now to why SF is bleeding support, they are on record as saying that there should be no upper limit of immigration and this has cause outrage with the party SF are in real danger of losing a hell of a lot of support.
English always create problems others must solve...
Not easy defending the indefensible. 😂😂😂
Remember the signs that said "No dogs, No blacks, No Irish"? Pepperidge Farm remembers, but apparently the shinners don't.
Not a problem for Sinn Fein it’s is a problem for its base , for years Sinn Fein have been promising everything now the likely prospect of being in the next government they are now having too take a bite on a reality sandwich which it’s base supporters won’t be happy with .
They don’t come from the UK, they come through it, just as they came through many EU countries, something Ireland is part of.
And they get to Ireland because of the CTA with the UK.
Loads of them living in UK for years , over here with no id putting in false claim, and will now have benefits in both countries, they rent out one of their homes ,whilst living unchecked in other. Also now have new ID can travel back to UK as no checks on non citizens and make a brand new claim in UK and guess what ? 2nd hime and 2 benefit payment ..
I always have to explain this people that Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland aka the North are a more conservative than Sinn Fein in the Republic of Ireland aka the south which is a lot more progressive and moderate now that's not to say that Shinn Fein in the north can't be progressive or moderate a good example is the current First Minster Michelle O'Neill said when she became First Minister that she will be a First Minister for all
Not for me she ain't representing me.
It seems sf are even more scummy south of the border,it’s not like we didn’t warn you what they were really about
@@superred690 I'm not a supporter of SF I'm a supporter of the Alliance Party
@@PhilipOsborne-rz9eu I understand how you feel I'm not the biggest fan of SF but I rather Northern Ireland being run by it's own elected instead of the bastard Tories
@@superred690You know nothing about the south of your border I take it lol.
According to International law, as Max has pointed out many times, asylum seekers have the right to claim asylum in Ireland if they want to. People going into ROI from NI are no different to people going to the UK from France. I can`t see how the Garda can prevent them if they say they are claiming asylum. Unless the Irish authorities break international law and refuse to process their claims.
There is a longstanding agreement, which was renewed post brexit, for the mutual return of migrants who have a -
- failed asylum claim,
- have skipped after the expiry of work, tourist or student visas issued
in the other jurisdiction.
The purpose of this agreement between Ireland and the UK is to ensure smooth operation of the CTA without it being abused.
@@chattyrat3354 Although that has been disputed. The agreement needs to be published so we can all see exactly how it is worded. In any case, that would only account for those who fall into the categories you mention. Many go directly as Ireland is now a go to place for English speaking asylum seekers. Generous benefits also play a part. Of course, some may have already made multiple asylum claims in various countries.
@@brutusbastados4801 Those that arrive directly into Ireland (e.g. Dublin (Collinstown), Dublin Port, Rosslare, Ringaskiddy, Cork, Kerry, Shannon, Knock, Carrigfin) go through immigration - some go back on the next return flight or where appropriate sailing, others into the asylum system.
If the UK wishes to welsh on longstanding agreements, so be it - but there are consequences, the first of which could see the end of UK short term visas being acceptable in Ireland under the British-Irish Visa Scheme, most of which are issued by the Home Office to Sunak's fellow Indians.
@@chattyrat3354 Although, we don`t know how many turn up on a deserted beach near Dover in the dead of night and go directly to Dublin via CTA using pre arranged transport. There are also accounts of a trade using fishing boats from France to Ireland.
Whether or not it would be welching is hypothetical until we see the written agreement. If I had accused someone of welching on an agreement I would publish it. I can`t imagine why not. (Unless it didn`t say exactly what I was claiming)
They are in big trouble Ireland needs full independence before it can even think about giving asylum to strangers.
What difference will that make they'll be still fl9cling into the south
The republic has full independence, and this is an immediate problem, not one for the future.
@@joekavanagh7171 Ireland has 32 counties and needs to address this before it starts to solve the world’s problems
@@eamonnleyden7040Ireland is part of the world or hadn't you noticed. Sick of this narrow minded nationalism!
@@cjm3109 I’m not naive or narrow minded but Ireland needs to solve its indigenous problems and stop looking abroad for praise the government in Ireland since partition has done nothing but try to control the natural ability of the people through the church and state
Yes they sat on the fence
Intern them until checks are made and interviewed as to weather they are a danger to the public or not
The old treaties of asylum seeking need to be a redo.
Can you gives the details?
@@noelpucarua2843They were drawn up post 2nd world war to help people who were displaced then. The movement of people has never been so great and now is a different time. Europe can’t accommodate the millions that are on the move and we shouldn’t be asked to. No country should be expected to end up with their indigenous citizens becoming poorer to accommodate strangers, with the real possibility of becoming a minority in their own homeland. Our forefathers shed their blood to give us the freedoms we now enjoy and for our leaders to give it away to some who have no respect for your culture, laws or homeland is treasonous.
@@toffy1952 Read about the refugees from Tsarist Russia, about the refugees after WW1 and read about Nansen passports.
Europe has sent millions and millions of refugees around the world and never asked the locals if they were OK with it.
Your forefathers shed other people's blood.
They shed the blood of Africans, Asians and the natives of both North and South America.
I never hear Europeans talking about that when the topic of immigration comes up these days.
What goes round comes round.
And remember, countries who market in weapons and death can only expect refugees.
@@toffy1952 Then maybe tell Americans etc. to stop bombing or sell bombs to the countries bombing?
@@noelpucarua2843 legally binding treaties requiring processing of ten times the traffic that was thought normal.
We need Sinn fein in Goverment, they have not turned their back on the people!! Infact the proably are the best party to lead Ireland forward...
SF are completely out of step with the general public. Our culture, and identity is hugely at risk, and our exchequer will become bankrupt without immigration controls.
you are showing your true colours here Max
I do agree with you, apart from it being a storm in a tea cup, I think it's more serious than that. Even before this asylum seeker issue arose I got the feeling that the same tactics of playing on people's emotions about the whole crisis being due to immigration that led to the rise of UKIP and Brexit are being employed to direct attention away from issues caused by those in power in Dublin, namely the lack of affordable housing and the lack of building these types of housing, to scapegoating immigrants.
I don't want to see Sinn Fein in power in Ireland, but then again the current government is two centre right parties in Finn's Fáil and Fine Gael so it's there any real alternative. In the UK we have a right wing party, the Tories, and a left wing one, centre left at the moment, in Labour, but although Ireland does have a Labour Party it's not of any size whatsoever as far as I can see and disillusioned voters only have Sinn Fein to vote for as far as I can see.
Checked at all Irish Ports including Larne Aldergrove etc. It's not complicated
If they were able to put in checks during convid, then do the same on illegral unvetted migration temporary measure until borders protected
No
In fairness at least Mary Lou McDonald sounds competent
Come to London! I will definitely vote you in as mp! I think Most people will do same!
This sort of thing could destroy Brexit.
If the republic put in a hard border to prevent the migrants, or even a soft border, this could re ignite the troubles in northern Ireland.
If we do find ourselves going down that road I'd imagine it will throw Brexit in it's current form, or even Brexit as a whole, in dissaray
Brexit? Nothing to do with Ireland.
Security risks in Northern Ireland? Last time I checked NI was part of the UK.
To reduce the numbers of migrants crossing the border from Northern Ireland into Ireland, the Irish Government should harden the border and do the job that the Brits should be doing. How do migrants make their way from Britain to Northern Ireland? Not in dinghies or it would be reported.
The reason why I won't be voting for them.
Yes it is a problem for SF along with a lot of others
Only if they're English immigrants!
irish blaming immigrants because of dozens of years of the government they elected under-funding the social safety nets and not building houses or infrastructure is a real American-esque take. It sucks to see it here.
its the self-sastisfied heartlessness is what gets me.
Sinn Fein are done thank God
Very tricky being both a left wing AND a nationalist party. They are almost certain to have members and supporters who are anti-immigration.
Every government should be proactive in providing adequate infrastructure and facilities rather than maintaining severe shortages of both.
That way there would be less resentment and fewer opportunities for the likes of Farage to sell their snake oil.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find he is involved in this anti-migration sentiment trying to initiate an Irexit.
They are a civic nationalist party not a far right one. Civic nationalists are for self governance not anti immigration.
Sinn Fein want a 32-county socialist republic. Socialists believe in equality. Socialism is also about internationalism, about workers of the world uniting. It is not about the kind of narrow xenophobic nationalism epitomised by the Nazi party and the far right neo-fascist movement currently rising across Europe. Socialism is about inclusivity. It is not either/or. It is both/and.
@@cjm3109 Yes, I wasn't suggesting they have far right philosophy.
@@joekavanagh7171 The philosophy of a political party is not always reflected by its members and supporters.
If immigration is being seen as a national concern there will be some members and supporters who are less tolerant than others.
Nationalism in any guise never sits well with socialism.
It won't stop a United Ireland @ ... max ?
Oh dear. Looks like not many are convinced…
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The border is too long to have effective checks on the movement of people. Even at the height of the Troubles, which I lived through, I was never checked crossing the border.
Afternoon Max and all here
Great Analysis as always Max ❤
Shite analysis, more like. There's no way that Ireland can build enough houses to meet demand, especially without getting a handle on immigration.
@ Max Commmon Travel Area ? ... An aggrement between who ?
The UK and Ireland.
Ireland a member state of the European Union & the UK isn't? You can't have immigration checks on the island of Ireland
Sinn Féin are not in government.
People werent happy long before the Rwanda project
It's a soft border...so checks are impossible. Irish hoist by their own petard.
All their own fault as they and the EU acted with aggression and hostility during the negotiations,
you reap what you sow.
And the Irish have emigrated for centuries. It's time for millions to now emigrate to Dublin and EIRE. Fair's fair.
Eh say that when war breaks out fair is fair who the fook are you to say that.
You do know the difference between no checks on goods at the border and no checks on people under the CTA? Nah didn't think so. Nitwit!
We travelled LEGALLY , worked, no handouts no free housing no free health care, no free cars college places etc; and we RESPECTED the countries we were in, their customs and their ways of life.
@@catherinem7748We didn't all travel legally. Where did you get that from 🙄
Wow, a true Telegraph-head. Spouting Brexidiot nonsense. "Aggression and hostillity" my arse, the negotiations had to preserve the GFA. Face it, the UK (which will probably eventually dissolve) are still smarting over Irish independence, they want to go back to the Union of 1800 that covered the whole of Ireland.
Hi Max Good Afternoon Everyone ❤
Why would anyone say good afternoon to this prick
It’s hard border if anyone is asked for lD try and sugar coat it
So Max, more housing, which will take at least 5 years to come on stream when you factor in planning permission, provision of roads, provision of water/sewerage etc. What do you do in the interim? In addition, who do you propose pays for that housing? Social housing does not pay due to the level of freeloaders who, despite being given subsidised accommodation, won't even pay the rent they have signed up to pay, hence the levels of rent arrears in local authorities.
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The immigration problem started with Brexit, the numbers have spiralled since and Britain seems quite happy to pass their problem onto Ireland.
Did brexit start in the 90s?
Simple answer no. They aren't in power.
Fantastic,maybe if they didn't block sensible brexit solutions instead of being difficult to make life difficult for British they wouldn't be in this mess in Ireland
It's almost like we need to be in organisations such as the EU because there's no incentive to cooperate outside them ...
Aontú are the conservative split of Sinn Fein. Gerry Adams held the conservative and left together, that's gone now.
@@PROTESTVOTEINEUROS. Feck off chem trails.
@@PROTESTVOTEINEUROS. Shutting the door on anyone isn't smart politics.
@@PROTESTVOTEINEUROS. Find last weeks "Leaders questions" it's on utube, and then shut up. I'm not going to take a chem trailer serious.
@@PROTESTVOTEINEUROS. His ex-party. His party is running against them Einstein.
@@PROTESTVOTEINEUROS. Count Raymond? Buddy this is a Republic, no titles here. Not Irish, none of your business!
Sinn Fein are in a real quandary over this. Come to that in a minute
The immigration issue is coming more to the fore in Irish politics by the week. We ve seen the footage of all the tents along the Grand Canal and in Mount Street in Dublin.
We know about the British Rwanda plan and we know that a list is being formulated of those who are potentially being deported. Hence the reason they are making their way to Ireland.
And remember they are not going from Stranraer or Carnryan to Belfast or Larne in a rubber boat. They are going on your standard ferry unhindered, paid for by the British and then shown the road to Dublin. This I believe is a fact.
Now back to Sinn Fein.
Their silence north and south of the border on this issue has been defening.
There is a Sinn Fein first minister in NI and right now the way we see it. Michelle oNeill is doing nothing about this.
Here's a lady that claims to be Irish just like me, but she procrastinates knowing full well that this is causing real concern for us in the Republic. Not a good move
If it continues then us Irish will demand that the border is fully patrolled and supervised on the Republic side to stop this. Before people say there is no man power for this. I believe there will be plenty of volunteers who will gladly patrol the border of our own country to stop this. We want to protect our borders. Just as any other country would do.
Sinn Fein know that right now the only way to do this is to stop the influx of people coming illegally into Ireland via Northern Ireland.
Remember if Sinn Fein wants a unified Ireland then they will have to convince us in the Republic as to why we should vote for this.
And right now they are failing miserably on this.
Interesting times ahead for Sinn Fein
What happens at the moment. If someone is banned from the UK are they also banned from Eire?
What's Eire?
@@cjm3109 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Éire
@@sr6424You forgot the fada on the é. It's Éire not Eire. Eire means something else entirety. You are from Sasana I take it?
Immigration is about consent Max; we are changing our laws and our cultural way of life to accommodate these people. The average house price nationwide is over now 320,000 euro and growing - how can anyone with no skills or English be a net contributor to our country over their lifetime? Immigration is costing everyone dearly from school places to doctor appointments. The problem Max is that there is far too many people currently to integrate and their numbers will only continue to increase. Which will inevitably lead to violence and vulgar nationalism - especially in Ireland which hasn't the baggage of colonialism that other European nations have. But the very idea that UK, who are responsible for a lot of these conflicts which drive immigration from Afghanistan to removing Gaddafi in Libya and encouraging/weaponising immigration into Ireland is something that needs to be addressed by the Irish Government head on. The Irish Government are pathetic, but no more than the British.
What laws have we changed to "accommodate these people"? What has changed specifically about our cultural way of life?
@@cjm3109 The Hate Speech Bill and the attempt to add the reference to "durable relationships" in the last general election.
referendum rather!
@@aeropticalWhat has the hate speech bill to do with immigrants or changing our laws for them. Are a fan of hate speech?
@@cjm3109 We already have laws against incitement to violence; the Hate Speech Bill is just our effort of a Government's attempt to copy other nations. The Hate Speech Bill is designed to legally divide people into 'protected' groups - which is nakedly a divide and conquer tactic. And as with the "durable relationships"; the language is so vague as to lead to legal uncertainty merely to create a chilling effect on Irish people's right to express themselves and defend their current and traditional values. Both of these laws were drafted so Irish people would feel cowed to silence at the risk of losing their livelihoods and to be branded. So, our hotels are full, we have tents everywhere and yet you want more? Explain your plan of action please.
You can hear in your voice Max running scared from this question .Republicians said no checks on border soft or hard.😂
well noted , he seemed to be hurried and scrambling about for excuses - obviously got a call from Connolly House
'The problem with Immigration is lack of houses, public services etc... ' It was interesting to hear you say that Max - whereas normally you infer that any one who is concerned about immigration is a racist!
Have to give S.F. a chance in government.. there are NO other options. Our country is sinking fast .
SF won’t win enough seats on their own and no other party will go into Government with them.
Close the border as best we can and reduce the numbers of migrants entering our country from Northern Ireland. That would be a good start.
Use of hotels for asylum seekers was also mooted as temporary. They are still there and aren't going anywhere
Yes it is
Your proposed solution smacks of naivety and ignorance. You're simply out of your depth on this one. While immigration to Ireland remains high, the State simply cannot build housing fast enough to keep up with demand.
You're also completely ignoring the fact that many people in Ireland are concerned about the shifting demographics of their society.
It's time that Ireland's main political parties swapped Far Left idealism for a strong dose of pragmatism.
Ireland's population in 2000 was 3.8 million. By 2023, it had swelled to 5.08 million, despite a recession in 2008 that saw many people emmigrate from the country. The population increase is due to mass immigration, plain and simple.
Today, 1 in 5 people in Ireland weren't born there, and in some towns and villages, Irish people are now a tiny minority of residents. They work and are educated with people from vastly different cultures, and they feel like foreigners in their own country.
The Irish are a welcoming people, but most of them are completely against becoming a minority in Ireland, seeing their culture be washed away by a tsunami of mass immigration and allowing foreigners to take the reins of power.
The rate of illegal migration to Ireland is 10 times the EU average. This is now a significant safety concern, because the Irish state does not and in many cases cannot vet illegal immigrants properly. One example of the problem this poses is the news story that an Iraqi national who recently came to Ireland from the UK and is seeking asylum is also a convicted sex offender. Despite him arriving in the state more than a year ago, his criminal record has only come to light now. This is despite the fact that he sued the state in a high profile case last year. His conviction by the UK courts should have been made public knowledge then. However, at no point did the Irish authorities even require him to at least register as a sex offender, even though most people in Ireland would rather he was removed from the country without his application being entertained. No one in their right mind wants to provide a safe haven for sex offenders.
Immigrants have also committed some atrocious crimes once in Ireland in the past couple of years: the random murder of a young teacher when she was jogging, the stabbing of young schoolgirls and their teacher, several high profile r*pes, and the butchering of 2 gay men for their sexuality.
Add to this a housing crisis, a healthcare system that's on its knees, and the rising cost of living, and it should come as no surprise to hear that resentment towards migrants, especially towards those who expect money from the Irish taxpayer, is growing.
It also doesn't help that immigrants are often treated better than Irish people (the Irish state has spent €800k on the pets - yes, pets - of Ukrainian immigrants, but can't find the funds to care for many elderly Irish people, for example), or that while Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar labelled as 'Far Right' anyone who opposed mass immigration. Worse still, the gardaí are investigating several Galway County Council members who condemned an arson attack on a proposed migrant hotel, but dared to say they sympathised with residents who had concerns over the housing of hundreds of immigrant men in their small community.
Seeing Ireland's political class p*ss away Ireland's future in the name of wokeness is infuriating, and seeing arrogant Leftists propose ignorant solutions like, 'just build more houses', is even worse.
Okay big mouth. Why don't you run at the next general election and see how many votes you get? My guess is that you would struggle to retain your deposit. The majority of the Irish people do not support your views, as you will find out.
Wokeness? Good grief 🙄
Are you Irish yourself?
A tsunami of mass immigration? 😂😂😂😂
Ireland complaining about immigration is crazy.
How many millions of people has it exported?
It's not even close to it's peak population historically
It shows what you know about Ireland we went to work we were not put in hotels or fed anything we earned what we got
Most of Ireland is not complaining about immigration. It's a small but very vocal minority of empty heads.
@@richardmurray7791Irish people never had to claim political asylum either. Asylum seekers in Ireland are not allowed to work.
are you talking about the population what was put in chains and shipped out, forced into so called Indentured servitude, Or the groups escaping famine because of British actions in ireland?
@@davyjones1335 The ones that continued to leave long after British rule ended
We support check points in Turkey.Greece and Italy.Then if needed Airports and Border 😊
Where is MR based?
Somewhere in southern europe
Ah finally you are commenting on something that actually has something to do with you. Good effort
Let's just stop the hand outs,give them nothing and they will stop coming
Check on people "coming in' and "coming out" ... then all native Irish citizens should get a free pass... All native Irish citizens shop have "freedom of movement" around the whole island of Ireland.
Limerick hospital homeless people immigrant
FFS they can’t even control the learner drivers down this part of country .
More single learner drivers with one person it’s laughable .
Try that other side of border ARRESTED
Time to end the common travel area agreement?
We CANNOT end the Common Travel Area(CTA) UNTIL Irish unification happens.
You see, there’s this little, 500Km long, problem called ‘The Border’!
@@gloin10 back to the drawing board for me then🤔