That's the same here in the United States I seen some on eBay but they refurbished. But the only place that seems to have them is the BMW center and they want $2000 USD, Thank you
Some really good tips in there mate especially how to lift & release the rails with care. And I'd like to offer you a tip of mine - with a full-of-fuel rail elevated, I pull the lowest injector 1st, that way there's only a one-off outpouring to manage. Cheers bud!
Hello M Tech Guy, Another great video and strongly believe you did yourself a favor by replacing the fuel injectors. In my opinion, more critical then rod bearings (if monitored and treated nice). One failed injector will ruin the block and at least one rod, resulting in a HUGE repair bill. I also truly appreciate your methodical speed and attention to detail to protect all the plastics and other bits that are getting brittle with age. I am a complete OCD Engineer when working on my M5 and that is not a bad thing. I see the same attention and care in your videos....I would allow you to wrench on my M5, aka Silk, and typically NOBODY will get near her with a tool in hand! Cheers, Mr .P
The way you explained and film your videos I so great I think even I would feel confident doing these jobs it's fabulous step by step instructions 👍💯🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Injectors now replaced with the help of this vid👍. Also replaced the 2 x breather valves whilst I was under the plenums ( Bosch P/N 0 280 142 427) not a known issue but they where £9 each so just done it as a preventive maintenance. (Would make a good vid next time you are under the plenums!) I have also replaced all 4 Vanos solenoids as the current price on them wasn’t to bad and would have kicked myself if I had left it till they started failing and the price had gone back up again! They where all the black bodied original ones which I’ll keep as spares! Also completed belts and pulleys whilst I had the radiator out for the solenoids. 👍
Awesome! Glad you found the video of some use. Sounds like you got a few items taken care of there 👍 Not done my fuel tank breather valves so far, good idea for a video! I have two black bodied VANOS solenoids I want to change out too, where did you buy yours from?
@@MTechGuy Got the solenoids directly from my local BMW dealer £167 each. I do think there is a noticeable difference in low down Torque! But could just be a placebo, first time in a few months that i have driven the car.
Massive thank you. Know I asked about you doing a film of this job a while ago. For some reason I imagined it being a nightmare. But as with everything Bmw, it’s just time (usually takes longer to get to the stuff you want to change than actually changing it does, haha) and patience. Your calm and detailed presentation. Is very reassuring. Injectors now on order. Thanks. As always, thank you for what you do for us BMW owners back here in the UK. Cheers. Bren. 👍
Cheers Bren. Yes, they are buried under the intake plenums like everything else on these cars! Good luck getting yours changed out, it’s a good job to get done on these cars 👍
Quick update. Injectors done today. No dramas as I knew exactly what to expect thanks to your guidance. 👍 However, much as it seems obvious, I’d just remind people to fully check that the “O” ring actually comes out with the injector when it’s pulled from the rail. 7 out of 10 of mine came out leaving the O ring in situ!! Easy enough to pop out with a small pick. But if you didn’t notice it, and used enough force pushing the new injector in, it would be possible to get it to clip in place, whilst there are now 2 O rings in. This would obviously cause a leak. So well worth just double checking as you take each one out, rather than have to pull it all apart again afterwards. But job is easy enough, just very time consuming. But did give me a great deal of satisfaction being able to clean everything whilst it was all apart. OCD now satisfied, haha. Another job ticked off the list. Thanks again Cheers. Bren.
@@MTechGuy yessir! I went with an N55 powered M2, Long Beach blue. Most importantly, a manual gearbox! A relatively analog car in a digital world is the way i look at it. Cheers!
Great video, been looking forward to this one for a while, great tip about wiggling the fuel bar to ease out all the injectors in one piece. Need to get around to getting mine done ready for putting the car back on the road in the spring. With these videos Your doing a great job on future proofing these cars on an affordable budget. Keep up the great work. Appreciate it 👍
Thank you for that wonderfully comprehensive video. I was thinking it was about changing the injectors for the last few months and was thinking of paying a garage to do the job. But this video makes me think that with care I could do the job myself.
Must say that you do a great job of filming and explaining the procedures involved. Also strangely therapeutic watching. Hope you gave those cabin filter housings a good clean - they were filthy !
Cheers man, glad you liked the video. For sure gave the cabin filters a really good clean before re-installation! I was surprised to find them so dusty
these are great vids. My 2 owner '08 with 95k miles is soon going to be getting the whole list of prev maint which I've learned from all of your vids! So thank you!! question - how do you feel about using injector cleaners on the E60 M5? like Seafoam or MMO etc.
It’s worth using a decent injection cleaner like STP as a preventative measure every 6 months to a year (I wouldn’t use sea foam) But at 95k miles and 15 years old I would get the injectors replaced, and use a cleaner moving forwards
To add a bit of info, it isn't wear on the fuel injectors, but an inadequate fuel filter allowing debris to hold the injector open. You should be able to have the injectors sonic cleaned and regularly change the fuel filter. Then again, new injectors are still relatively cheap insurance.
@@MTechGuy Luckily, I was able to get mine cleaned for $9 per injector. I've used them for every port injection car I've owned. I'll probably get new injectors the next time I'm in there though.
Great video as usual. Wondering if you can lead me into the right direction or a fix for my issue. 09' E63 56K miles SMG. Any gear above 7rpm with delayed 2-3 seconds before shifting. No loud bangs, no codes, all fluids services with last 200 miles and Alpha-N tune. Also, no issues with downshifting in any gear. Below 7k rpm shifts like butter. Please help. Thanks in advance.
could be a messed up clutch pressure plate (especially if you get judder at slow speeds too) Could be failing input shaft speed sensor or crank sensor, although these would normally throw a code
@@MTechGuySo if the old injectors fail I can scrap my car? Do you know what I can do now? Where did you get your injectors? Are the Bosch parts still available and only the OEM BMW parts are discontinued? I can't find them anywhere.
@@MTechGuy I have tried that but unfortunately they all say out of stock or been discontinued. I was just hoping where you got yours from would of tad some but spareco was the same.
If you suspect it’s fuel pressure related, it could be the EKP module failing, or the pump, or the pressure sensor. Check out one of my previous videos on fuel pressure issues- ruclips.net/video/n7Rd6DNY2Gs/видео.html
These injectors are no longer available for purchase anywhere, BMW & Bosch no longer produce new ones, what will BMW E60 M5 owners do in the future? Always clean old injectors? Is there an alternative injector? Some in forums said Ferrari V12 injectors or F10 M5 injectors can be used but need computer to reprogram the ECU
I believe this will be the way forward. The s65 engine injectors with a new ECM tune should bridge the gap. The s65 shares the same cylinder volume and has a higher rpm limit. I'm still trying to confirm relative placement of the injectors to the valves in the two engines and the overall mass airflow rate (pretty sure it's the same on a cylinder to cylinder basis), but I don't see why this can't be the way to tackle the problem.
M tech I've been watching your videos for a long time I've learned a lot from you but what I'm emailing you about is the injectors here in the United States for some reason we cannot get fuel injectors for the S85 engine if we do get them they're $2000 US I was wondering if you could get me some and I can pay you please get back to me the word has it Bosch is not making injectors here in the United States no more
Thanks for following the channel man. Yeah the Bosch ones seem unavailable globally at the mo. I can get genuine ones here in NZ but they are expensive
Yeah all good with the Redex, best bet is to use 98 octane fuel as is has a good additive package in it, but worth using the Redex every once in a while 👍
Thanks!
Thanks man, I really appreciate it!
Such an awesome video. Nice work man!
You, my friend, are a proper S85 surgeon! Thank you for what you do ♥
Cheers buddy, thanks for checking out the video 👍
That's the same here in the United States I seen some on eBay but they refurbished. But the only place that seems to have them is the BMW center and they want $2000 USD, Thank you
Some really good tips in there mate especially how to lift & release the rails with care. And I'd like to offer you a tip of mine - with a full-of-fuel rail elevated, I pull the lowest injector 1st, that way there's only a one-off outpouring to manage. Cheers bud!
Cheers man, great tip! Yes that makes sense
Hello M Tech Guy,
Another great video and strongly believe you did yourself a favor by replacing the fuel injectors. In my opinion, more critical then rod bearings (if monitored and treated nice). One failed injector will ruin the block and at least one rod, resulting in a HUGE repair bill.
I also truly appreciate your methodical speed and attention to detail to protect all the plastics and other bits that are getting brittle with age. I am a complete OCD Engineer when working on my M5 and that is not a bad thing. I see the same attention and care in your videos....I would allow you to wrench on my M5, aka Silk, and typically NOBODY will get near her with a tool in hand!
Cheers,
Mr .P
Yes, way more critical for sure. Thanks for the kind words man, being very OCD myself that mean a lot 👍
Thank you for making these videos. You are really helping me out here with my M6 and it's invaluable information that you're sharing.
Cheers Garret, that’s great to hear, makes doing these videos all worth while! Sounds like you’re M6 is getting well looked after 👍
The way you explained and film your videos I so great I think even I would feel confident doing these jobs it's fabulous step by step instructions 👍💯🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Injectors now replaced with the help of this vid👍. Also replaced the 2 x breather valves whilst I was under the plenums ( Bosch P/N 0 280 142 427) not a known issue but they where £9 each so just done it as a preventive maintenance. (Would make a good vid next time you are under the plenums!) I have also replaced all 4 Vanos solenoids as the current price on them wasn’t to bad and would have kicked myself if I had left it till they started failing and the price had gone back up again! They where all the black bodied original ones which I’ll keep as spares! Also completed belts and pulleys whilst I had the radiator out for the solenoids. 👍
Awesome! Glad you found the video of some use. Sounds like you got a few items taken care of there 👍 Not done my fuel tank breather valves so far, good idea for a video! I have two black bodied VANOS solenoids I want to change out too, where did you buy yours from?
@@MTechGuy Got the solenoids directly from my local BMW dealer £167 each. I do think there is a noticeable difference in low down Torque! But could just be a placebo, first time in a few months that i have driven the car.
Massive thank you. Know I asked about you doing a film of this job a while ago. For some reason I imagined it being a nightmare. But as with everything Bmw, it’s just time (usually takes longer to get to the stuff you want to change than actually changing it does, haha) and patience.
Your calm and detailed presentation. Is very reassuring.
Injectors now on order. Thanks.
As always, thank you for what you do for us BMW owners back here in the UK.
Cheers. Bren. 👍
Cheers Bren. Yes, they are buried under the intake plenums like everything else on these cars!
Good luck getting yours changed out, it’s a good job to get done on these cars 👍
Quick update. Injectors done today. No dramas as I knew exactly what to expect thanks to your guidance. 👍
However, much as it seems obvious, I’d just remind people to fully check that the “O” ring actually comes out with the injector when it’s pulled from the rail. 7 out of 10 of mine came out leaving the O ring in situ!! Easy enough to pop out with a small pick. But if you didn’t notice it, and used enough force pushing the new injector in, it would be possible to get it to clip in place, whilst there are now 2 O rings in. This would obviously cause a leak. So well worth just double checking as you take each one out, rather than have to pull it all apart again afterwards.
But job is easy enough, just very time consuming. But did give me a great deal of satisfaction being able to clean everything whilst it was all apart. OCD now satisfied, haha.
Another job ticked off the list.
Thanks again
Cheers.
Bren.
I’ve since sold my E63 M6 to get into an F87 M2. I still watch these videos😂
Haha, that’s great to hear. I do like the first gen M2’s!
@@MTechGuy yessir! I went with an N55 powered M2, Long Beach blue. Most importantly, a manual gearbox! A relatively analog car in a digital world is the way i look at it. Cheers!
😎
Just completed mine, this video helped make it smooth!
Nice one, good to hear you found the video of value. Thanks for watching!
Very inspiring knowledge here. Thanks man I think you just saved a few more s85s from the scrap yard
I hope so!
Great video, been looking forward to this one for a while, great tip about wiggling the fuel bar to ease out all the injectors in one piece. Need to get around to getting mine done ready for putting the car back on the road in the spring. With these videos Your doing a great job on future proofing these cars on an affordable budget. Keep up the great work. Appreciate it 👍
Cheers Duncs M5, for sure, they don’t have to be too expensive to own if you go about it the right way. Thanks for checking out the video
Thank you for that wonderfully comprehensive video. I was thinking it was about changing the injectors for the last few months and was thinking of paying a garage to do the job. But this video makes me think that with care I could do the job myself.
Thanks for checking out the video John. it’s not a big job, just take your time to make sure everything is seated correctly
Must say that you do a great job of filming and explaining the procedures involved. Also strangely therapeutic watching. Hope you gave those cabin filter housings a good clean - they were filthy !
Cheers man, glad you liked the video. For sure gave the cabin filters a really good clean before re-installation! I was surprised to find them so dusty
Thanks for this video mate, very well done easy to follow.
Cheers man, thanks for watching!
Great video, and very informative.
Cheers man, thanks for checking out the video
these are great vids. My 2 owner '08 with 95k miles is soon going to be getting the whole list of prev maint which I've learned from all of your vids! So thank you!! question - how do you feel about using injector cleaners on the E60 M5? like Seafoam or MMO etc.
It’s worth using a decent injection cleaner like STP as a preventative measure every 6 months to a year (I wouldn’t use sea foam) But at 95k miles and 15 years old I would get the injectors replaced, and use a cleaner moving forwards
yup makes sense. ty@@MTechGuy
Great DIY Video. Gonna be doing this as well.
Good plan 👍
Very nice engine. What a beauty!!
It sure is!
Top of the TO DO list.
Good plan 👍 I wish I had done mine sooner!
Thanks a lot, it REALLY helpful.
Thanks for checking out the video man, I’m pleased you found it useful
Great video. Thanks!
No worries, thanks for checking out the video!
Great video ! love your work
Thanks for checking out the video man
To add a bit of info, it isn't wear on the fuel injectors, but an inadequate fuel filter allowing debris to hold the injector open. You should be able to have the injectors sonic cleaned and regularly change the fuel filter. Then again, new injectors are still relatively cheap insurance.
Yes, they normally get blocked and stuck open. The injectors are 17 years old and new ones where more or less the same price as refurb
@@MTechGuy Luckily, I was able to get mine cleaned for $9 per injector. I've used them for every port injection car I've owned. I'll probably get new injectors the next time I'm in there though.
Another great video- thanks. Start to finish , how long did it take?
Cheers, it takes me approx. three times longer than normal because I’m filming it too!
@@MTechGuy so how long would it normally take?
Depends on your experience and tools you have etc. I would allow 2.5 hrs
@@MTechGuy brilliant! Thanks.
Great video, as always
can I ask you if the new injectors need to be coded in ? Or is it just the case of swapping them out for new ones
Thank you
No coding required 👍
@MTechGuy thanks very much for the answer , much appreciated
And please , keep posting , I love to watch your videos
just did mine, iTop Tip--
when putting on electrical connectors, put the clips on the plug, first,, they clip on, but not off, wish I knew this!!
Cheers Jay 👍
Great video as usual. Wondering if you can lead me into the right direction or a fix for my issue. 09' E63 56K miles SMG. Any gear above 7rpm with delayed 2-3 seconds before shifting. No loud bangs, no codes, all fluids services with last 200 miles and Alpha-N tune. Also, no issues with downshifting in any gear. Below 7k rpm shifts like butter. Please help. Thanks in advance.
could be a messed up clutch pressure plate (especially if you get judder at slow speeds too) Could be failing input shaft speed sensor or crank sensor, although these would normally throw a code
I would get that tune out of there too! they are known to cause problems with these engines
How many miles should your S85 engine have before you decide to remove the injectors
I did mine at around 125,000 Km’s
Hi, I wanted to replace my fuel injectors and the dealer said they were discontinued?
@@AbcAbc-ox6pg Yes, discontinued. My local dealer here in NZ still have access to some, but there are not many left
@@MTechGuySo if the old injectors fail I can scrap my car? Do you know what I can do now? Where did you get your injectors? Are the Bosch parts still available and only the OEM BMW parts are discontinued? I can't find them anywhere.
Where did you buy the injectors from? I’m struggling to find someone who is selling the Bosch injectors. Thanks Andy
Spareto
@@MTechGuy it looks like these injectors have been discontinued.
Search the part number in the description, they should still be readily available elsewhere
@@MTechGuy I have tried that but unfortunately they all say out of stock or been discontinued. I was just hoping where you got yours from would of tad some but spareco was the same.
That sucks because Spareco were always way cheaper than everywhere else! Pelican or FCP should have them
i have a m6 thats cranking but no starts, i believe its the fuel pump, but i have no codes. how do i go about testing the fuel pump on this engine?
If you suspect it’s fuel pressure related, it could be the EKP module failing, or the pump, or the pressure sensor.
Check out one of my previous videos on fuel pressure issues-
ruclips.net/video/n7Rd6DNY2Gs/видео.html
How many km have you changed them? It's to get an idea of how mine can be.
Approx. 125,000 Km’s
Hi tech guy, bro can you do a diy on a vacume lines of bmw e60 m5 ,I want to change everything, as a preventive maintenance ?
Might look at it some time in the future
@@MTechGuy your car also might require it now , will be waiting bro
These injectors are no longer available for purchase anywhere, BMW & Bosch no longer produce new ones, what will BMW E60 M5 owners do in the future? Always clean old injectors? Is there an alternative injector? Some in forums said Ferrari V12 injectors or F10 M5 injectors can be used but need computer to reprogram the ECU
I believe this will be the way forward. The s65 engine injectors with a new ECM tune should bridge the gap. The s65 shares the same cylinder volume and has a higher rpm limit. I'm still trying to confirm relative placement of the injectors to the valves in the two engines and the overall mass airflow rate (pretty sure it's the same on a cylinder to cylinder basis), but I don't see why this can't be the way to tackle the problem.
M tech I've been watching your videos for a long time I've learned a lot from you but what I'm emailing you about is the injectors here in the United States for some reason we cannot get fuel injectors for the S85 engine if we do get them they're $2000 US I was wondering if you could get me some and I can pay you please get back to me the word has it Bosch is not making injectors here in the United States no more
Thanks for following the channel man. Yeah the Bosch ones seem unavailable globally at the mo. I can get genuine ones here in NZ but they are expensive
Have you ever worked for bmw in the past?
No, I haven’t
Long time no see, I’ve sold my m6 😒
😮 Did you replace it with something cool?
@@MTechGuy
No..,nothing can replace coolness of M6
Hi M-tech guy. Just curious of your opinion on Redex fuel system/ injector cleaner.. and for its (very occasional) use in the E60 M5
Yeah all good with the Redex, best bet is to use 98 octane fuel as is has a good additive package in it, but worth using the Redex every once in a while 👍
what is your instagram account?
Don’t have Instagram, RUclips only
Thanks!
Thanks man, greatly appreciated!