Used to be a NC Programmer years ago. Programmed ,Fixtured,and Tooled 2 Forest Line Seramill 240's. Fanuc 10m CNC controllers. Before commissioning, I trained in Forest Lines factory in Albert, France. Great days of working on large prismatic components programmed thro Unigraghics CADCAM.
that swivelling logo used bt Forest Line reminds me of the old machine in first factory I worked in 55 years ago. similar planer made semicircle cast iron trough for rolling fine woollen cloth! an ancient guy who had worked at Rolls Royce in 1920s worked huge old lathe and made the rollers that fitted in the trough.
Railroad tracks per se' generally aren't machined until they are installed. Then they get machined periodically: look up "rail grinder" to see videos of this being done. A frog is a very special bit of track equipment. It, along the the points of a switch or crossover, usually are machined because they are too complex to forge with the necessary accuracy. BTW, track is rolled or drawn, not cast. Cast rail would be very brittle and fail almost immediately.
That round insert can be used with this depth of cut probably 15 times (turned to a fresh edge) . ..and does a lot of job. A mill is a lot more expensive for the start (and you have to enter the material 200'000 times - while this scraping insert enters once ... )
special made machine. some makers can adapt basic machines with special heads etc for customer. there are probably very few jobs that need a machine like this.
And shapers have a single working element, usually a ceramic insert, and it reciprocated and that’s it. That’s obviously a milling head, shapers have no spinning parts. While it does seem to have a shaper attachment I don’t think that names the whole machine a shaper especially since it also does milling.
WTF? Move the entire machine in order to move the cutting head? And why mill the lower sides of the rail web - the cast side would not offend a train wheel running over the rail top. Looks very inefficient to me.
It's not moveing the entire machine, just the part that is being machined, that's the whole point. It works (sort of) like a lathe does. you clamp the part down, and then move it past the cutter, the rest of the machine is stationary, and doesn't require all of the assoiciated hardware that a milling machine does.
1st op.Mill base flat, 2nd op Probe point to find center. 3rd op plane top surface and side profile. 4th op mill point width. 5th op mill radius. Last op mill web cut.Video doesn't show end trimming to length. At 1:12 shows operator with no safety gear on what so ever. I guess both the company and himself don't care if he losses he's eye sight. Cmon people wear your safety gear.
Used to be a NC Programmer years ago. Programmed ,Fixtured,and Tooled 2 Forest Line Seramill 240's. Fanuc 10m CNC controllers. Before commissioning, I trained in Forest Lines factory in Albert, France. Great days of working on large prismatic components programmed thro Unigraghics CADCAM.
Much respect to you my man
Rail machining is still the only place to this day where I’ve seen heavy shapers still in use- throwing off chips as large as a small child’s hand.
that swivelling logo used bt Forest Line reminds me of the old machine in first factory I worked in 55 years ago.
similar planer made semicircle cast iron trough for rolling fine woollen cloth!
an ancient guy who had worked at Rolls Royce in 1920s worked huge old lathe and made the rollers that fitted in the trough.
What is a frog used for? How is it attached to the rail? What is it's weight?
I never knew that railway tracks had to be machined. I thought they were cast in shape like that in the steel mill
Railroad tracks per se' generally aren't machined until they are installed. Then they get machined periodically: look up "rail grinder" to see videos of this being done. A frog is a very special bit of track equipment. It, along the the points of a switch or crossover, usually are machined because they are too complex to forge with the necessary accuracy. BTW, track is rolled or drawn, not cast. Cast rail would be very brittle and fail almost immediately.
Newer realized there is so much work involved in this.
Still a better love story than Twilight
Is the planing head unique to Forest-Liné?
Just courious, but why are they scraping the rail instead of milling it??
Simpler cutting tools.
Kenneth Janczak FOR THE HELL OF IT(?)
That round insert can be used with this depth of cut probably 15 times (turned to a fresh edge) . ..and does a lot of job. A mill is a lot more expensive for the start (and you have to enter the material 200'000 times - while this scraping insert enters once ... )
but the answer is pobably "because of surface quality (macro waves dot desired on the rolling surface)
Wow!! Well there is still metal planers in use today for actual manufacturing.
Squatch Hammer I’m sure that’s a face mill.
I can not find any shapers in any catalogs with a rotary head.
special made machine. some makers can adapt basic machines with special heads etc for customer.
there are probably very few jobs that need a machine like this.
And shapers have a single working element, usually a ceramic insert, and it reciprocated and that’s it. That’s obviously a milling head, shapers have no spinning parts. While it does seem to have a shaper attachment I don’t think that names the whole machine a shaper especially since it also does milling.
TaintedMojo Of course you won’t.
No shavings blower and no coolant in the process? What are you guys using? Carbide tips?
Norman Jaquemot coolant is over rated I take .300” cuts all day long without coolant and yes that’s all carbide
You're not working magnesium are you?
Norman Jaquemot no steel mostly
Norman Jaquemot OBVIOUSLY!!!
THAT IS ONE BADASS PLANER!!
Very interesting and well done.
I know that there is penetrating and grinding going on n all, but is the 80's porn vid music really nesesary?
Don’t understand the need for music. It’s a machine shop!
This puts ball end mills to shame...
Amazing machine
Please dont use any "fancy" music in demo videos.
Its much more interesting watching the work, with genuine sound from the working machine.
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cool
Does it HAVE to sound like 90s porn😒
WTF? Move the entire machine in order to move the cutting head? And why mill the lower sides of the rail web - the cast side would not offend a train wheel running over the rail top. Looks very inefficient to me.
It's not moveing the entire machine, just the part that is being machined, that's the whole point. It works (sort of) like a lathe does. you clamp the part down, and then move it past the cutter, the rest of the machine is stationary, and doesn't require all of the assoiciated hardware that a milling machine does.
Boltless frog
1st op.Mill base flat, 2nd op Probe point to find center. 3rd op plane top surface and side profile. 4th op mill point width. 5th op mill radius. Last op mill web cut.Video doesn't show end trimming to length. At 1:12 shows operator with no safety gear on what so ever. I guess both the company and himself don't care if he losses he's eye sight. Cmon people wear your safety gear.