These six core values determine our beliefs | Jonathan Haidt + Andrew Yang | Yang Speaks
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2021
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I truly believe we need a 3 party since the 80's. I Loved when Yang said It's not left or right it's forward... I don't choose left or right - red or blue. I go with Good Ideas. Why not a 3 party? Purple is the color or Royalty.
In 2020 there were 225 state-level ballot-qualified political party affiliates in the United States.
I looked at my states presidential candidates available as write in candidates. There were more than 30...I forget now exactly how many
I feel like America would be better suited to have 4(right, moderate right, moderate left, and left) instead of 3, a technocratic party that goes with "good ideas" is admirable but people will likely be divided by their social conservatism/ liberalism
@@bleach3883 What gets me is i like living in republican states. They're quiet and in the country. I find a lot of republicans to be two nuts short of a bolt but everyone has there flaws.
@@bleach3883 There should be a survey on who has more people in the nut house. Democrats or Republicans?
The problem is too many are unwilling to admit we have two right wing parties. In the 70's to 90's the democrats were centrists, but no longer. You need both sides to attain a balance and obviously we just had out wake call on this subject with the rise of fascism. What we need now is a party for the left.
One of the best episodes. Listen to the whole thing if you haven’t!
Great episode!
Haidt's categories of conservatives is on point, as well as word choice making a message palatable. It's great to listen to two people have the courage to give an honest outlook on people with opposing views. Great interview!!
Liberty!
So good
There is a war on normal people going on right now. Censorship is growing and it will eventually swallow us up unless we address the problem now. I understand that you cannot address this problem at this time because it might affect your run for mayor of New York, and it’s killing me. #YangTulsi2024
Uncensorable speech already exists. Both public and private
You mean like this:
FacesOfTheRiot.com
?
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from repercussions for the things you say.
@@bobby_greene Yes it does, unless the speech fits into one of the categories of unprotected speech like “incitement to lawlessness.” To qualify for this exception, the advocacy for lawlessness must be 1) intended 2) the lawlessness must be imminent and 3) the lawlessness must be likely. All rules and laws restricting freedom of speech must be pass a heightened standard of care called “strict scrutiny” because free speech rights are so highly valued by society. Not by a “preponderance of the evidence” or even “beyond a reasonable doubt” but “strict scrutiny.” So did Trump “intend” the lawlessness, ie, the storming of the capitol? You might think that dog-whistling passes the strict scrutiny test but I do not. Furthermore, while the lawlessness was imminent, was it likely? Everyone knew what Trump had said prior to January 6 about the protests. Everyone expected Trump to do his inflammatory thing because that is what Trump does. But no one expected the crowd to storm the capitol. Not the capitol police, not the FBI, not homeland security, not the senators or representatives. Even Trump did not expect it. So I’m not even sure the lawlessness was likely to occur based on Trump’s dog-whistling. Some will disagree with my assessment. I don’t think it’s a close question but even if it was, we should err on the side of caution because our freedom to express our thoughts, even bad thoughts, or especially our bad thoughts, is too important for our democracy to flourish. And I must say in all honesty, I am deeply disappointed in Yang for supporting the impeachment and Twitters censoring of Trump’s voice, even though i would never, ever vote for someone like Trump, even for school janitor. Peace.
@@bobby_greene FYI, I supported Yang throughout his campaign, literally proselytizing for Yang to everyone I met, donating money to his campaign, etc. And I support his run for mayor, against my better judgment. But free speech is one of the few hills I am willing to die on, even more than for the eradication of poverty. Which is why I am so disappointed even though I know that Yang doesn’t have the freedom to express his true thoughts on the issue since he is running for office. Peace.
Yang Gang 2021! Andrew will win the mayoral campaign comfortably.
I can not understand how anyone can believe that equality of outcome is in anyway fair
For anyone
So to change anyone’s beliefs, you must change their values?
That’s very interesting I think you may be right. Or explain a belief in a way that aligns with their values, sometimes people just don’t realize they agree with something
Reciprocity. Everyone wants unity and to move on from Trump and the new administration is selling unity very hard, but the media doesn't seem to be asking what it will extract in return. Reciprocity says there will *CERTAINLY* be a price for unity and reciprocity is an iron law of human psychology.
Bigoted democrats calling half the country racist supremacists is the opposite of uniting. Bigots... they have no idea that most Americans are far more charitable than any Democrat.
@@larrysiders1 Agree with the first thing you said but it is you who is being a bigot by painting ALL Democrats as uncharitable.
@@larrysiders1 Calling bigots bigots isn’t an act of bigotry. By your own definition of it, however, you necessarily are one...
@@SR-lh4rm Democrats are calling all conservatives white Supremacists and racists. That's a fact. Biden, your mentally deficient leader called them that his whole campaign. Bigots.
I can smell your bigotry from miles away. Horrible bigoted people.
@@larrysiders1 You are the one painting all Democrats with the same brush. That is the definition of bigotry.
Hope President Biden lives up to his rhetoric of diversity of thought within his own inner circle. The great challenges in front of the new administration are likely putting immense pressure on his team to crowd out external noise and instead fasten themselves to the mast of blind loyalty. This would be disastrous.
*E **_PLURIBUS_** UNUM.*
This is unfortunate. Haidt needs to read his own book. In his own words, he used to think that the "others" (conservatives) had lost their minds and that he only needed to find a way to educate them so that they would see the errors of their ways. He subsequently embedded himself in conservative culture and came to understand conservatism better. From that understanding, he came to recognise moral foundations, setting the course for his future scholarship. He came to realise that the "others" were NOT insane and that, in fact, it was simply his own bigotry that caused him to think that way.
Fast forward to today, and he has gone straight back to his bad old ways, referring to the "others" Trump/right as having lost their minds. Bigotry obstructing understanding and a failure to recognise that his own tribe can equally be accused of having lost its mind during the Trump era. QAnon versus BlueAnon.
I have no value in sanctity whatsoever (although I realize it's means a lot to many others). I have massive value in fairness, which leads to caring. I respect competent and fair authorities, but titles alone say nothing about the worthiness of an authority. Loyalty is like respect, it must be earned to be valued and when it is earned I have very strong loyalty. I value liberty the most, but I realize it comes proportionally to the health of society. Ignorant people rob us all of many liberties, because they don't understand that all liberties end where they start stepping on the liberties of others. For instance; freedom of speech ends when your words cause other harm (especially if they die) . Like calling "fire" in a crowed theater and some people get trampled to death. Or your rhetoric causes an insurrection and people die.
It seems the most ignorant people scream the loudest about losing their liberties, but their own actions end up being the greatest factor of losing their liberties. It very ironic. Values should be formed on logic, because that's the only way our values can be fair and not only self serving. Self serving values are not conducive to a healthy society. Doesn't everyone want to live in a safe and healthy society?
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the willingness to burn down stores?
The left’s notion of freedom is more robust than mere “liberty;” it includes the positive conditions required for meaningful autonomy and human flourishing.
“Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.”
-Bertrand Russell
Freedom isn’t to be provided for, it is to not be interfered with
@@bobby6462 As if it’s a given... again, that’s a very narrow, impoverished notion of freedom, which has been used *in defense of slavery* (prohibition of slavery as a violation of liberty)...
@@adamhbrennan Slavery is someone interfering with your independence and life, hence it is not freedom. A man alone on an island is free to an ultimate extent, a man locked in a cellar filled with all imaginable pleasures is not. Freedom is not having things provided for you (which are generally paid for by taking the freedom of others), it is having no one stop you from making rational decisions on how to best live your life.
@@bobby6462 You can’t make decisions about choices that aren’t available to you...
@@adamhbrennan Of course not every choice is available to everyone, but everyone decides their own actions. I can't choose between Harvard or Yale if I don't get accepted, and that doesn't mean I'm less free. You think there should be a world where every choice should be available to everyone?