They CUT the Sorting Hat’s Best Moment

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024

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  • @factorfantasyweekly
    @factorfantasyweekly  19 дней назад +3

    If you're new to the channel, be sure to go back and check out all the previous episodes to this series! 👉 ruclips.net/p/PLm7F6aVf1YzBDpkdx2wDn-b225Yqm312A 🪄 *New episodes every Sunday morning!*

    • @Tom-_-Hanks
      @Tom-_-Hanks 17 дней назад +2

      Rik Mayall was going to play Peeves. There's an interview with him talking about how the kids couldn't stop cracking up.

    • @balthiersgirl2658
      @balthiersgirl2658 13 дней назад

      They removed peeves because rick Myall he was just to funny and the child actor's couldn't stop laughing

  • @Thejigholeman
    @Thejigholeman 24 дня назад +29

    Dumbledore letting the kids sing the school anthem however they wanted was (in my opinion) an important detail that they left out.
    it gives you the idea of what kind of wizard/headmaster dumbledore was. their magical education hasn't even begun yet, and he's already encouraging the kids to be creative. also, singing the school anthem in your own tune made the anthem a bit more personal to the students. a good way to build some early school pride.

  • @nbenefiel
    @nbenefiel 20 дней назад +42

    How can anyone NOT read the books? They are wonderful.

    • @Matty272
      @Matty272 19 дней назад +4

      Ok Hermione…

    • @nbenefiel
      @nbenefiel 19 дней назад +5

      @@Matty272 What a compliment ☺️

    • @Wellch
      @Wellch 19 дней назад +5

      I agree….movie can’t cover it all.

    • @lindas.8036
      @lindas.8036 19 дней назад

      Aaah. An Innocent! There are many people who believe that the books are evil, promote witchcraft and evil, and are of the devil. Usually, tho, they have not read the books.

    • @tinaunderhill5412
      @tinaunderhill5412 19 дней назад

      @@Matty272Oh very droll, but clever

  • @bruderk4257
    @bruderk4257 19 дней назад +20

    This is why i urge people to read books. Movies always fall short.

  • @hrantgeorge2444
    @hrantgeorge2444 18 дней назад +5

    Apparently Voldemort was not sucking Quirrell's brain when Harry first met him in the Leaky Cauldron, no scar pain.
    What falls apart for me is the whole 'Snape is a bad guy' business after the trio find out he helped harry survive at the Quidditch match and after Quirrell's dialog at the end of Vol. 1. That type of news usually alters a person's mindset, yet Harry becomes more entrenched.

  • @TheWanderingFire
    @TheWanderingFire 24 дня назад +6

    The fantastic Rik Mayall was cast and filmed as Peeves, but unfortunately, all his scenes were cut from the final edit. It can't be because he didn't do a great job, so I'm guessing he was cut for time, or to prevent too much confusion for non-book-reading audiences (only Sir Nicholas out of the 4 house ghosts made any kind of appearance during the early films, and his story was trimmed down drastically).
    The film-makers were kind of notorious for doing this. When OotP went into filming, the script editors completely cut out Kreacher from the story - Deathly Hallows hadn't been published yet - and Rowling had to put down her foot and told them to keep him in because he would be important later.

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  24 дня назад +3

      Whoa! Never knew that. Wish I could’ve seen those in the cut

    • @ronaldsmith6829
      @ronaldsmith6829 18 дней назад +2

      @@factorfantasyweekly Me too! Although I hated Peeves in the books.

    • @michaellimmer1873
      @michaellimmer1873 18 дней назад +2

      I remember reading somewhere that Mayall was so good that the kids, and they were just kids, kept falling out of character during the shooting of his scenes. The new students were supposed to be afraid, terrified, bemused by Peeves, and instead, they were laughing out loud at his antics.

    • @AutisticKittyStar
      @AutisticKittyStar День назад

      Actually, it's because the kids couldn't get through a scene without laughing, I remember an article about it

  • @kristimccabe8288
    @kristimccabe8288 8 дней назад +1

    My fiance that died couldn't retain anything he read so he got the books on tape and we used to have this old stereo that was capable of playing cassette tapes specifically so we could listen to all the books together and sometimes he'd have me read them out loud to him as well.. might sound cheesy but they're some of my favorite memories with him.. I plan to continue to do so with our son when he's old enough to be read books as long as Harry Potter and tell him his Dad and I used to do the same thing ❤

  • @HeatherNickless-vt8zr
    @HeatherNickless-vt8zr 20 дней назад +3

    As one who have read the Harry Potter Books; we never get a full introduction of the Hufflepuff ghost; but I don't see much difference between the two Nearly Headless Nick(s) or "Deathly Hallows" Helena Ravenclaw(s) the grey lady(s) and the Moaning Myrtle character is every bit as flighty and full of character in the movies as she was in the books.
    The Hogwarts song from "The Goblet Of Fire" book wasn't cut out completely in the Year 4 film, we hear Hagrid and Hermione sing the first 2 or 3 lines of its reprise just before Harry discovers a dead Barty Crouch Sr. in the Forbidden Forest. It was actually the Sorting Hat song about the Hogwarts Houses that was being sung in the first book. There is a different sorting hat song each Hogwarts year through the literary timeline, we just don't get much of the theme out of the movies.

  • @emmaearthling444
    @emmaearthling444 16 дней назад +2

    I’m so excited to have just stumbled upon this series!!! I’m subscribing!!

  • @lcjjeff9808
    @lcjjeff9808 14 дней назад +1

    These video series are criminally underrated. Thanks for making these!

  • @CJ-im2uu
    @CJ-im2uu 20 дней назад +4

    Plot ho,e: Ron is a pureblood, several generations of Hogwarts alumni, so how is it he did not know about the sorting?

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  19 дней назад +6

      It does seem odd. Best guess I have is that it was just Hogwarts alumni tradition to keep this ceremony a secret. This is a common thing in the real world as well for private institutions. But it does seem unrealistic that over time at least one person didn’t let it slip.

    • @Wellch
      @Wellch 19 дней назад +1

      @@factorfantasyweeklyjust like secret societies.

    • @TomBruhh
      @TomBruhh 19 дней назад +7

      He knew about the sorting, he just didn't know the details, since his brothers were lying to him about it.

    • @ronaldsmith6829
      @ronaldsmith6829 18 дней назад +2

      @@TomBruhh Yes, Fred and George do have a rather sadistic sense of humour...🙄

    • @mkuti-childress3625
      @mkuti-childress3625 15 дней назад +1

      I thought there was a spell to prevent older students from sharing details about the ceremony with with others…

  • @ronaldsmith6829
    @ronaldsmith6829 18 дней назад +3

    A great deal of the changes could be explained with run time. Time is king in a movie. Also, things that work in a book, don't work in a movie. I was rather confused with the differences of the ghosts, but being that they weren't my faves in the book, no big deal. As far as Peeves is concerned, good riddance to bad rubbish. He was by far both my son's and my LEAST favourite character! Again, the cost of creating such a C.G. based character would have been considerable and would have also added considerable run time to the movie. Five minutes here and there DOES add up quickly. One thing that was consistent about the books was that Harry's hair was described as, "Just all over the place," Which drove both of the Mother figures in his life nutz! Giving the actor a buzz-cut and a wig would have solved the issue. Other than that, I was fine with the changes... Well... I did wonder how the Hell Trevor got onto the landing in front of Mc Gonnegal. Well, magic, of course.
    In conclusion, I really enjoyed the first two movies. I was considerably disappointed that the entire feel of the movies were changed afterwards.

  • @rdh-daliasjb3796
    @rdh-daliasjb3796 15 дней назад +1

    A number of comments mention the differences being because of the run time of the movir, but...come on, it's Harry Potter, the films could run for 4 hours and they would still have as many fans! I was really surprised they didn't release extended versions of the films once they realised how popular the were, especially as so many of the scenes that were cut and have been seen on youtube would have greatly enhanced the movies.

    • @jonathanmcvay4499
      @jonathanmcvay4499 14 дней назад

      It’s about money. How many showings per theater per day.

    • @rdh-daliasjb3796
      @rdh-daliasjb3796 14 дней назад

      @@jonathanmcvay4499 At least 3, and DVD sales would go through the roof.

  • @georgeb.wolffsohn30
    @georgeb.wolffsohn30 17 дней назад +1

    A movie can never include all of the details explored in the book.
    However, a visual presentation provides details only honted at in a book.

  • @ericgeorge4218
    @ericgeorge4218 5 дней назад

    i read all of the books. I watched all of the movies. I was a good Dad.

  • @geckoo9190
    @geckoo9190 10 дней назад

    It was state in the movies that the had choose a different house for two of the three main characters, the hat chose raven craw for Hermione and slithering for Harry, ron was the only one supposed to be in gryffindor, if you also count Nerville, he was supposed to go in hufflepuff

  • @darthanakinII
    @darthanakinII 11 дней назад

    There were actually scenes filmed for peeves but they ended up getting cut

  • @utareangara5529
    @utareangara5529 8 дней назад

    now i really want to read the books.

  • @Olde-Tymer1893
    @Olde-Tymer1893 14 дней назад

    Unfortunately they cut Peeves out because the actor playing Peeves was so funny, that the director couldn't stop laughing. So they wrote the character off

  • @COmtnLady
    @COmtnLady 17 дней назад +1

    It always made/makes me crazy when an author has best selling books world wide, and the fans LOVE what that person created, so the movie people have to change things around because they can't compete with the "perfection" of the book(s). JKR is brilliant. There are so many nuances in the Potter series that the movie people should have made each book into two or three movies to get it all in. I also think the story wasn't respected as actually plotted literature, but treated, instead, as a kids' cartoon, until far too far into the series.
    Then there is the "Nigel" problem with the movies.... They cut out all sorts of good supporting characters from the books, then for no good reason invent Nigel and insert him into Colin Creevey's place.... Or the way Prisoner of Azkaban is turned in a Dia Del Muerte fest... Grrrrr!!!

  • @ladydragon3648
    @ladydragon3648 День назад

    I would of like to see they in the movies.

  • @karenorgan6203
    @karenorgan6203 21 день назад +1

    Witch characters we see? How can one not make that joke

    • @Wellch
      @Wellch 19 дней назад

      Witch? Or which?😁😁😁

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield 19 дней назад +1

    Most film changes I can understand the reasoning behind, but the change in the Sorting Hat scene from alphabetical order to mostly main_character order was just weird and clunky

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  19 дней назад +1

      Yea, it’s some of those smaller details that make no sense. Do they really affect the story? No. But is there literally ANY good reason behind the change? Also no.

  • @-Nachtmensch-
    @-Nachtmensch- 24 дня назад +2

    🎩 🎼🎵🎶
    "Oh you may not think I'm pretty,
    But don't judge on what you see,
    I'll eat myself if you can find
    A smarter hat than me.
    You can keep your bowlers black,
    Your top hats sleek and tall,
    For I'm the Hogwarts Sorting Hat
    And I can cap them all.
    There's nothing hidden in your head
    The Sorting Hat can't see,
    So try me on and I will tell you
    Where you ought to be.
    You might belong in Gryffindor,
    Where dwell the brave at heart,
    Their daring, nerve, and chivalry
    Set Gryffindors apart;
    You might belong in Hufflepuff,
    Where they are just and loyal,
    Those patient Hufflepuffs are true
    And unafraid of toil;
    Or yet in wise old Ravenclaw,
    if you've a ready mind,
    Where those of wit and learning,
    Will always find their kind;
    Or perhaps in Slytherin
    You'll make your real friends,
    Those cunning folks use any means
    To achieve their ends.
    So put me on! Don't be afraid!
    And don't get in a flap!
    You're in safe hands (though I have none)
    For I'm a Thinking Cap!"

  • @edwarda.burkard4346
    @edwarda.burkard4346 16 дней назад

    Unfortunately in books and movies details never link, wish they did

  • @Harry-Hartmann
    @Harry-Hartmann День назад +1

    The Books are beter than the Films 🎥

  • @inspector_beyond
    @inspector_beyond 24 дня назад +1

    I think the changes between the scenes are not critical. Yes, the songs of the Hat are out, but non-book readers would not miss anything. Peeves being cut is the only thing that's critical, but the characterization of Ghosts don't really matter for the overall plot throughout series as neither Nick, Baron or Friar had big impact on the stor and characters. Peeves and Grey Lady are the only important Ghosts to the story and her role was revealed only by the end of the story, which is way after this movie's release.
    As to why Hagrid didn't lead the students straight to McGonagal mainly comes to the locations of Hogwarts, which are WAY different in the castle layout between the media. Hell, even throughout the movies Hogwarts changes many times, and trsut me, I can go on on movie Hogwarts all day. Anyways, knowing the layout, Hagrid probably just left students by the main door and said to them to just go up the stairs, which led them straight to McGonnagal, who already waited in the room adjacent to the Great Hall.

    • @Thejigholeman
      @Thejigholeman 24 дня назад +1

      while i agree that many of the changes to the scenes weren't so bad that they completely changed the story (like some did in the later movies), I would say that the harry potter series of books is all about the world building and details.
      J.K.Rowling did a lot of good work in fleshing out the world. they had their own music (A Cauldron Full of Hot, Strong Love), mannerisms, holidays and events (like the headless hunt, and Nearly Headless Nick's deathday celebration.), they had a whole history of things from the goblin rebellion, to the house ghosts having their own history.
      Whole side plots were removed from the story, like S.P.E.W, and Winky the house elf, and sirius black sending harry a firebolt he strategically acquired, and sending Ron pigwidgeon who was holding a permission slip for harry, so he could go to hogsmeade (giving ron the owl because he was technically responsible for ron losing his rat).
      We lost out on the love story between harry and Ginny (we were given that god aweful shoe tying scene that made us think ginny was about to give him the tentacular tickle).
      even more annoyingly, we didn't get to hear luna give her quidditch commentary (Loser's Lurgey, eh?).
      you tug 1 thread, and the rest of the sweater comes apart.
      No winky means no trip to the kitchens. No winky means no S.P.E.W, which means no hermione learning to knit hats, and no harassing people to join spew.
      No spew means harry doesn't get to appreciate the large statue of the elf/mermaid/centaur looking up at a wizard with adoration. which means harry doesn't empty all the galleons he had on him into the fountain (the donations to the fountain were sent to saint mungo's hospital for magical maladies)
      When you get rid of the details (even the minor ones), you get rid of the personality.

  • @mikesyck2624
    @mikesyck2624 16 дней назад

    Robin Williams would have been great as Peeves

    • @Olde-Tymer1893
      @Olde-Tymer1893 14 дней назад

      Robin Williams asked Chris Columbus (Who did Mrs. Doubtfire) to put him in the movie, But the stupid director said Robin wasn't English. He was an American therefore couldn't be in it

  • @lucasjames7524
    @lucasjames7524 24 дня назад

    Hey Gibby, I love the videos for both HP & LotR! I was wondering if it might be worth experimenting with replaying the footage from the movies in slow motion, or kind-of slow motion. It would give the videos more of a reflective quality, and allow for viewers to soak in details of the footage in relation to your voiceover. Also, it would prevent you from having to replay the same clips like a dozen times over the course of the video. Either way, just an idea. I love the channel concept and videos regardless! 🧙🏻‍♂🪄🧝🏻‍♂🧌👻

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  24 дня назад +1

      Interesting idea… I’ll have to try this out! It’s difficult cause if it’s edited wrong the video will get demonetized/blocked for copyright. So we’ll have to see if slomo passes the test!
      Thanks for watching!

  • @conradnelson5283
    @conradnelson5283 15 дней назад

    I saw the movies, but I did not read the books. Maybe it’s time.

  • @marktoman2046
    @marktoman2046 18 дней назад

    the sorting hat's song is in hogwarts legacy btw.

  • @marjoriemaluca1396
    @marjoriemaluca1396 16 дней назад

    I read all 8 books

    • @judynesher5898
      @judynesher5898 3 дня назад

      No you didn’t. There were 7 books. There were, however, 8 films!

  • @maskedmarvyl4774
    @maskedmarvyl4774 16 дней назад

    The Harry Potter mythos is Fascist. I'm not the first person to point that out. For someone who is such a staunch critic of authoritarianism and Fascism, JK Rowling based the entire structure of Harry Potter on it, both in how muggles are treated, to the goblins, house elves, giants, and the different Houses the students are placed in.

    • @ronsorage78
      @ronsorage78 15 дней назад

      That's the point isn't it? Showing how things like that are not good things. The deatheaters are treating muggles with hate and kills them.....they are bad guys. The ministry is blind to things and the leader uses every dirty things governments use to discredit and segregate so they can cover up the truth and keep power. She is literally using it as commentary and criticism to these behaviors.

  • @georgeb.wolffsohn30
    @georgeb.wolffsohn30 17 дней назад

    I wonder how the Sorting Hat acquired the scar on his right cheek ?
    And whose hat is it anyway ?

    • @Hogg342
      @Hogg342 2 дня назад

      The Hat was Godric Griffindors he enchanted it JK released that information online I'm not sure about the scar though

  • @jeffbartlett8565
    @jeffbartlett8565 18 дней назад

    Seems the new series will correct this

    • @ronaldsmith6829
      @ronaldsmith6829 18 дней назад

      New Series????🤔

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  18 дней назад

      We’ll see. 👀 I have hope but am also worried they’ll ruin it in other ways.

  • @tanialangford6662
    @tanialangford6662 18 дней назад

    Snape is wayyyy too old. In the book he was the same age as Lily, James and the Marauders. Lily and James died at 21 when Harry was 1. This would have made them around 31 now. Whereas Snape in the movie is over 50 probably closer to 60. This does not work.

  • @chrisi621
    @chrisi621 24 дня назад +1

    Who is Peeves? Did I miss it in the video where you explain who this character is?
    I gather that he is important, but as someone who never read the book, I have no clue who this person is. Is he a ghost?

    • @factorfantasyweekly
      @factorfantasyweekly  24 дня назад +1

      Great question! Sorry I didn’t explain it further here, but Peeves is a poltergeist, which the books differentiate from a regular ghost. He has a physical form, unlike the ghosts, but can become invisible or phantom-like at will. He’s essentially a prankster who wreaks havoc on the school by messing with the staff and students. He’s extremely loud and obnoxious. 😂 But he is in almost every single book and is quite an essential character to leave out.

    • @TheWanderingFire
      @TheWanderingFire 24 дня назад +2

      To follow up Gibby's explanation, a poltergeist is not a ghost (which is a spirit of a deceased person), but is a manifestation that haunts a certain place, and is generated by the presence of things in that location.
      In the case of Hogwarts, Peeves is created and sustained by the mischievous energy of the students themselves, which accounts for his love of pranks and boobytraps, and his respect for the Weasley twins (two of the biggest troublemakers in the school).

    • @TheWanderingFire
      @TheWanderingFire 24 дня назад

      I have also heard it theorized (but I don't think it's ever been suggested or even acknowledged by Rowling) that Mr Filtch & Mrs Norris are not a squib and his cat, but another poltergeist, this one unintentionally generated by the staff at Hogwarts (who enforce rules and punish rule-breaking). Filtch as the Order to Peeves' Chaos.

    • @nbenefiel
      @nbenefiel 20 дней назад +2

      Read the books

    • @sandisteinberg731
      @sandisteinberg731 19 дней назад +2

      The Sorting Hat's most important moment comes in Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 11. It's ignored in the films and sees to be ignored by most fans of the books. It's a serious warning for Hogwarts to stand united or risk being destroyed.

  • @francisgrizzlysmit4715
    @francisgrizzlysmit4715 21 день назад

    no the movies could have been so much better typical of movies

  • @sandramacglashan1088
    @sandramacglashan1088 6 дней назад

    I have read all the books .🧙‍♀️🧹⚡️🪄🛖

  • @ellisburton8733
    @ellisburton8733 11 дней назад

    First video I've come across, really enjoyed it. My daughter was the Potter fan not me, but maybe it's time I had a go at them... I wasn't exactly the target audience at the time, however I did enjoy Percy Jackson (but I'm a lover of Greek myths)... I'm fortunate to have been gifted a Kindle so on the basis of this and other videos that I will check I think it's time to dip into the Potter verse. 🤔🤭🕰️⌚⏰. Like many I do wish the author would step away from social media and the spotlight and just let the books speak for themselves. I have seen almost all the films, care of my daughter - but after this video no wonder things often didn't make sense 🤔.