I really like how you always describe things. My horse also had this issue but also with gaining more trust he learned to let me pet him there. Next time he's showing this behavior I'll try out your technique.
Also keep in mind that if a horse is sensitive in the girth, wither area, side shoulder, behind sternum or flank/back area it could be a sign of ulcers.
He looks like he needs a little top line strength to me while the rest of the horse looks strong, so I too, would worry about physical things with a reflex like that. Endurance training prehaps tends to neglect dressagey topline training. Ulcers can translate to arthritis leaky bowel type things in the spine and body. Ryan is warming up the horse slowly out of the stall which is helping. I don't know what the horse's normal situation is, but maybe he needs turnout.
yes! I'm disappointed by how many trainers don't ever ask "why is the horse showing this behavior?" With the high percentages of ulcers in domestic horses, that should always be a suspicion (unless horse has been treated and checked for ulcers or other pain issues).
Thank you for explaining working with an Arab endurance horse. When I got my Arab many years ago, all the trainers said tire your horse. 4 hours later, I was falling down and she was still going. There was no info on Arabs so I just applied my dog training (I train to utility dogs) and we did fine.
Yes I agree. Some trainers recommend "working" a horse hard if he spooks, misbehaves etc, and while this may work with QHs it sure doesn't work with my OTTBs. They can run in small circles all day and just get hotter and hotter. Instead, I do a lot of disengaging behind and flexing to make choices "uncomfortable" but I don't ever try and "tire him out". Pressure is needed but its also really important to keep them from getting too excited because then they can't learn anything
Brilliant! Such a great message, and unlike so many others who are great at what they do, it was delivered by a great messenger. People teacher, as well as horse teacher.
I very much misunderstood Arabian horses until I got one. Very smart and engaging, but sensitive for sure. Not a bad thing, just different. He’s taught me a lot. I like the A, C....then B thought process.
A lot of Arabians are misunderstood, the ones I worked with are very sensitive. I grew up with an Arabian mare she is the best horse I've ever worked with. The horse I trust my nonhorsey bf to lead. She can be hot-headed but the sweetest mare. I always end up working with Arabians when people have problems. The last horse I worked with was a lady who had a problem where the horse disrespected her and she didn't know what she was doing. So I freely out of my will went down and worked with her and her horse. The horse was very pushy and I went over the basic leading and correcting. I explained that I work on my old person walk with horses if they rush me and don't stop it could be disaster. This horse would take a few steps forward over me. And after 10 minutes of working with her horse on the correct leading I handed her horse over and had her do the same. Her mare was an Arabian she rescued from a kill pen, I reached out to her when she posted on selling the mare because she was having a rushing problem. And I was like you won't give up your dream of a problem that is an easy to correct. I offer my services for free to teach people about their horse. I've trained a couple horses here and there mostly green broke horses and tamed mustangs but never started a horse until I got my horse Loki raised him from a baby. Things I couldn't teach as a yearling I sent him to a more experience trainer and they said I did a wonderful job on halter training him and teaching basic ground work. They was afraid I was going to steal their clients. I halter broke loki with food bribery. I didn't rush him though I stuck a carrot in the noseband of the halter everyday with the command "stand" until I got to buckle it. The rocking back and forth didn't seem to help so on leading I stuck a carrot out and he walked for it. Not the best way but it suited him as he is food motivated. I tried teaching him to load without a carrot for a month straight until I was like ok the carrot and he hopped right in. He is a funny horse. 😄 he now loves the trailer because it takes him to new places.
I needed to see this!! I take care of a few very smart, but very sensitive mares who could really benefit from this training. One of them is an Arab and she is particularly flank shy. Thank you for making such an informative video!
I agree with everything of what you said Ryan. You should never 🚷🚫⛔🙅♂️🙅🙅♀️ ever touch a horse under it's belly, or he will slightly kick you, especially when you are on the other side of a wire fence. This happened to me once and I felt pain. I used to go zero times without being Kicked by one and now it would still haunt me for the rest of my life. So yes, Please don't do what Edward John Smith II, aka Captain FixIt just did, it can ruin your Life.
OMGoodness...he looks like a reincarnation of a 3 yr old Arab colt (Rustem Pasha) I used to look after 40 yrs ago. If you know Arabs, you'll know his sire, Indian King and his dam, Bint Roxana were very influential Arabs back in the 60's, early 70's. ❤🌹
I am going to try this method with my horse (also an Arabian) so that I can handle his hind legs of he is injured again. Did not do this earlier, but sure wish I had! Thanks Ryan, you're a great teacher.
I ride 3 times a beautiful Arabian, Punchie, in my horse riding school. I 'm already 57 years old... I live in France, this is an pure blood English Arabian. She' s a 5 years old mare in a school riding school. She was a horse racing horse but her career stopped one day after winning many prizes. Her times were no more good to win. She 's really a pure beauty with her soft brown eyes and so slim ! She was described to me like a moody mare . She bites from time to time people she dislikes who scared her or who were unpleasant for her, in her mind. She can bite while putting her her a bridle. My own coach was bitten too. I too rather fiercely the first time, when I was standing with another young rider near her head. I was angry with her and tried to push her shoulder backwards. The girl said it was bad but I read it was important to show horses who was the leader. So... I only have tried to. 😅 I always had good relationships with horses in the past , I could not understand why she was so aggressive to me. I 'm very soft with them . That 's all.😇 In fact I understood the next time who she disliked when we were together in her stall. This girl could never enter, my lovely Arabic was tied close and she tried to bite her three times in 30 seconds.... Lol. Why we developed a special relationship? I dunno. I was trying to reassure her during the grooming, kissed her when I went below her neck, speaking a lot to her , showing to her all the brushes before using, and after full of her dirty hair. I have a cat like her at home, and I could groom her very good except her feet where she 's so sensitive that I made her 4 feet with my fingers and the special tool a little. I forgot one kiss on her head on her sensitive skin, when I went below her neck. She turned her head, looking at me, seemed to say to me, Hey where's my kiss? I kissed her of course, she was satisfied . After the horse lesson she was so relaxed, I was talking to her a lot too, I offered her pieces of carrots, apples. She was happy too with it. I groomed her peacefully. At one moment she bent her head down towards me and I felt she was saying how much she appreciated me. I put my arms around her head and I caressed her head and neck . I could not really do it between her ears before but after it no more problems with it ! I can pet her head easily. I felt badly while trying to canter, broke my humerus and had many health issues too. I 'm waiting to go back to ride at the moment, after 30 years of break, it is not very easy to do. I have not the same state of good health. A knee problem made me lose my good sit too. I have to work hard. I went to see my sweet Punchie after 4 months and she recognised me! I was with another rider in her stall, Punchie was not tied up. I offered her my hands to sniff, I stayed after in front of her. I could pet her head easily. We were talking about her and at one moment she made me a big hug, rubbed her head down my winter coat and I felt a big wave of love, I took her handhead in my hands, petted her forehead and said you 're so sweet Punchie. We were having a so good moment together. She always moves a lot but that time she did not during all the time I spent with her. Ooh I think she chose me. She made my heart melt like an ice cream. 😍😍🐴♥️♥️♥️ I love the way you can do dressage to teach how to be petted for this Arabian !!! A hello from France. ☺️🇫🇷👋🏻
Ryan - great video. Just love your respectful and common sense approach - all while putting your safety first. Question - my horse is terrified of getting shots from vet to the extent she will tear up and strike out at the prospect of a needle. Will these training exercises be recommended in that this is circumstance as well?
It's great seeing you working with a arabian..this shows that they aren't spastic and tiny little things..Arabians are more sensitive than other breeds but they aren't crazy..their handlers make them that way..sorry as you can guess I do like the Arabs..
I would be interested in your views when hobbling a hind leg for the first time on the pros and cons of tying the leg up higher vs closer to the ground say 6" off the ground. If tying up higher they cannot get their foot on the ground so in theory most should give up the fight quicker, however I have been told by local professionals its safer to tie it up low but to me when tying it low they can periodically get the hoof on the ground and therefore will fight it for a longer time because they have got that ‘reward’ from getting it on the ground. Which way do you think is best as I like your theory of thinking. Many thanks (yes horse picks up his feet fine for farrier etc, but want to get them used to being tied up so they don’t struggle for fence accidents, and where we ride there can be loose wire etc)
Hi Ryan! I would like to start off by saying that this is an awesome video! I have a question for you, so hopefully you will see this. I work with a pony named Taco, we do pony rides for children. Sometimes a parent has to walk beside their child either because they are nervous or because they are too small to hold on themselves. Taco has recently started having a problem with people bumping into his side. He didn't always have this issue. We have had him checked for ulcers and kidney problems but he is all good and healthy other than the fact that he is overweight. He has been so reactive to people bumping into his side that he has kicked out at many people and usually he doesn't miss. He is a very smart pony with very good aim. I have tried telling people simply not to bump into him or he will kick them, but that doesn't sound very good when you are running an operation such as children's pony rides and people don't listen about half the time and get confused why they get kicked. We have tried this sort of pressure and release, but he still kicks out. Do you have any other suggestions that may help?
I understand that this exercise makes being touched on the belly the easy part, but why did you choose this over desensitizing by touching him until he stands still?
Any chance there’s a way to work on this exact kick when a school horse is in the cross ties ? When I’m grooming before saddling she has a spot on her flank where she does this exact same kick. After riding she’s much better when I brush off and never does that threaten to kick move ?
This sounds weird, but my gelding did the same thing. I found that he was itchy and had a bug bite back there. Once I scratched really good, he was fine. Just a thought. He still has issues kicking on on his opposite flank, I will try this, but when he is in the arena he is fine. The crossties…attitude.
When i try to touch my 1300 lb horse's legs she pushes forward, nips at me, or cow kicks...HELP! I can rub all over but she wont stand still so i can work on her hooves...she respects me with the flags but not when i try to stand her to lift a hoof...
That’s a warning a little ole cow kick there’s a secret stop acting like a lion tamer. Rub your back on his shoulder.see he’s freaking out. Horses have well horses sense.hes a real beauty. Try peppermints .
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I really like how you always describe things. My horse also had this issue but also with gaining more trust he learned to let me pet him there. Next time he's showing this behavior I'll try out your technique.
Thanks
Also keep in mind that if a horse is sensitive in the girth, wither area, side shoulder, behind sternum or flank/back area it could be a sign of ulcers.
He looks like he needs a little top line strength to me while the rest of the horse looks strong, so I too, would worry about physical things with a reflex like that. Endurance training prehaps tends to neglect dressagey topline training. Ulcers can translate to arthritis leaky bowel type things in the spine and body. Ryan is warming up the horse slowly out of the stall which is helping. I don't know what the horse's normal situation is, but maybe he needs turnout.
yes! I'm disappointed by how many trainers don't ever ask "why is the horse showing this behavior?" With the high percentages of ulcers in domestic horses, that should always be a suspicion (unless horse has been treated and checked for ulcers or other pain issues).
Thank you for explaining working with an Arab endurance horse. When I got my Arab many years ago, all the trainers said tire your horse. 4 hours later, I was falling down and she was still going. There was no info on Arabs so I just applied my dog training (I train to utility dogs) and we did fine.
Yes I agree. Some trainers recommend "working" a horse hard if he spooks, misbehaves etc, and while this may work with QHs it sure doesn't work with my OTTBs. They can run in small circles all day and just get hotter and hotter. Instead, I do a lot of disengaging behind and flexing to make choices "uncomfortable" but I don't ever try and "tire him out". Pressure is needed but its also really important to keep them from getting too excited because then they can't learn anything
The way you explain makes it so clear even to people who know nothing about horses.
Brilliant!
Such a great message, and unlike so many others who are great at what they do, it was delivered by a great messenger.
People teacher, as well as horse teacher.
Ryan, what the heck?! Shirtsleeves in Wisconsin in February??? Prob just a brief respite, but oh so enjoyable ;-)
I very much misunderstood Arabian horses until I got one. Very smart and engaging, but sensitive for sure. Not a bad thing, just different. He’s taught me a lot. I like the A, C....then B thought process.
Definitely
A lot of Arabians are misunderstood, the ones I worked with are very sensitive. I grew up with an Arabian mare she is the best horse I've ever worked with. The horse I trust my nonhorsey bf to lead. She can be hot-headed but the sweetest mare. I always end up working with Arabians when people have problems. The last horse I worked with was a lady who had a problem where the horse disrespected her and she didn't know what she was doing. So I freely out of my will went down and worked with her and her horse. The horse was very pushy and I went over the basic leading and correcting. I explained that I work on my old person walk with horses if they rush me and don't stop it could be disaster. This horse would take a few steps forward over me. And after 10 minutes of working with her horse on the correct leading I handed her horse over and had her do the same. Her mare was an Arabian she rescued from a kill pen, I reached out to her when she posted on selling the mare because she was having a rushing problem. And I was like you won't give up your dream of a problem that is an easy to correct. I offer my services for free to teach people about their horse. I've trained a couple horses here and there mostly green broke horses and tamed mustangs but never started a horse until I got my horse Loki raised him from a baby. Things I couldn't teach as a yearling I sent him to a more experience trainer and they said I did a wonderful job on halter training him and teaching basic ground work. They was afraid I was going to steal their clients. I halter broke loki with food bribery. I didn't rush him though I stuck a carrot in the noseband of the halter everyday with the command "stand" until I got to buckle it. The rocking back and forth didn't seem to help so on leading I stuck a carrot out and he walked for it. Not the best way but it suited him as he is food motivated. I tried teaching him to load without a carrot for a month straight until I was like ok the carrot and he hopped right in. He is a funny horse. 😄 he now loves the trailer because it takes him to new places.
I needed to see this!! I take care of a few very smart, but very sensitive mares who could really benefit from this training. One of them is an Arab and she is particularly flank shy. Thank you for making such an informative video!
Beautiful horse 🐎 ❤ and understandable lesson I needed to learn lol....' I'm not touching you ' lol Love your videos 👍🇨🇦
Great explanation and demonstration. I always learn something new from you or see something in a new way! Thanks!!!
Arabians are my heart horse. I currently have a Varian Arabian. Honestly for an Arabian he seems very calm.
I had the opportunity to tour that ranch. Amazing horses for sure!
Agreed his owner has done a fantastic job with him
This is so helpful!! That horse likes you!!😃
Thanks 😊
So useful!! I just got in my first mustang filly, and she's doing great with everything except letting her belly be touched!
I agree with everything of what you said Ryan. You should never 🚷🚫⛔🙅♂️🙅🙅♀️ ever touch a horse under it's belly, or he will slightly kick you, especially when you are on the other side of a wire fence.
This happened to me once and I felt pain. I used to go zero times without being Kicked by one and now it would still haunt me for the rest of my life. So yes, Please don't do what Edward John Smith II, aka Captain FixIt just did, it can ruin your Life.
OMGoodness...he looks like a reincarnation of a 3 yr old Arab colt (Rustem Pasha) I used to look after 40 yrs ago. If you know Arabs, you'll know his sire, Indian King and his dam, Bint Roxana were very influential Arabs back in the 60's, early 70's. ❤🌹
I am going to try this method with my horse (also an Arabian) so that I can handle his hind legs of he is injured again. Did not do this earlier, but sure wish I had! Thanks Ryan, you're a great teacher.
Aw, you are great at training and beautiful horse!
Thanks
I ride 3 times a beautiful Arabian, Punchie, in my horse riding school. I 'm already 57 years old... I live in France, this is an pure blood English Arabian. She' s a 5 years old mare in a school riding school.
She was a horse racing horse but her career stopped one day after winning many prizes. Her times were no more good to win. She 's really a pure beauty with her soft brown eyes and so slim !
She was described to me like a moody mare . She bites from time to time people she dislikes who scared her or who were unpleasant for her, in her mind. She can bite while putting her her a bridle. My own coach was bitten too. I too rather fiercely the first time, when I was standing with another young rider near her head. I was angry with her and tried to push her shoulder backwards. The girl said it was bad but I read it was important to show horses who was the leader. So... I only have tried to. 😅
I always had good relationships with horses in the past , I could not understand why she was so aggressive to me. I 'm very soft with them . That 's all.😇
In fact I understood the next time who she disliked when we were together in her stall. This girl could never enter, my lovely Arabic was tied close and she tried to bite her three times in 30 seconds.... Lol.
Why we developed a special relationship? I dunno. I was trying to reassure her during the grooming, kissed her when I went below her neck, speaking a lot to her , showing to her all the brushes before using, and after full of her dirty hair. I have a cat like her at home, and I could groom her very good except her feet where she 's so sensitive that I made her 4 feet with my fingers and the special tool a little.
I forgot one kiss on her head on her sensitive skin, when I went below her neck. She turned her head, looking at me, seemed to say to me, Hey where's my kiss? I kissed her of course, she was satisfied .
After the horse lesson she was so relaxed, I was talking to her a lot too, I offered her pieces of carrots, apples. She was happy too with it. I groomed her peacefully. At one moment she bent her head down towards me and I felt she was saying how much she appreciated me. I put my arms around her head and I caressed her head and neck . I could not really do it between her ears before but after it no more problems with it ! I can pet her head easily.
I felt badly while trying to canter, broke my humerus and had many health issues too. I 'm waiting to go back to ride at the moment, after 30 years of break, it is not very easy to do. I have not the same state of good health. A knee problem made me lose my good sit too. I have to work hard.
I went to see my sweet Punchie after 4 months and she recognised me! I was with another rider in her stall, Punchie was not tied up. I offered her my hands to sniff, I stayed after in front of her. I could pet her head easily. We were talking about her and at one moment she made me a big hug, rubbed her head down my winter coat and I felt a big wave of love, I took her handhead in my hands, petted her forehead and said you 're so sweet Punchie. We were having a so good moment together.
She always moves a lot but that time she did not during all the time I spent with her. Ooh I think she chose me. She made my heart melt like an ice cream. 😍😍🐴♥️♥️♥️
I love the way you can do dressage to teach how to be petted for this Arabian !!! A hello from France. ☺️🇫🇷👋🏻
Good A to be B with C detour explanation. I’m going to put that in my tool box.
Thanks
He's got a beautiful head! The perfect shape for an Arab. That's a valuable lesson.
Thanks for another video “Brian” 😂
Jk….Ryan🙏😁
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Great job Ryan 🙋🏼♂️
Ryan - great video. Just love your respectful and common sense approach - all while putting your safety first. Question - my horse is terrified of getting shots from vet to the extent she will tear up and strike out at the prospect of a needle. Will these training exercises be recommended in that this is circumstance as well?
Yes depending on how adverse your horse is to shots.
@@ryanrosehorsemanship thank you so much Ryan - do you your the country? Would love to know if you ever do a clinic in Maryland where I am.
Beautiful Horse!
It's great seeing you working with a arabian..this shows that they aren't spastic and tiny little things..Arabians are more sensitive than other breeds but they aren't crazy..their handlers make them that way..sorry as you can guess I do like the Arabs..
Thanks so much. Beautiful 🤩
He seems like a really nice horse.
Definitely
👍😁🍀Thank you!
I would be interested in your views when hobbling a hind leg for the first time on the pros and cons of tying the leg up higher vs closer to the ground say 6" off the ground. If tying up higher they cannot get their foot on the ground so in theory most should give up the fight quicker, however I have been told by local professionals its safer to tie it up low but to me when tying it low they can periodically get the hoof on the ground and therefore will fight it for a longer time because they have got that ‘reward’ from getting it on the ground. Which way do you think is best as I like your theory of thinking. Many thanks (yes horse picks up his feet fine for farrier etc, but want to get them used to being tied up so they don’t struggle for fence accidents, and where we ride there can be loose wire etc)
My 5 yo Arab is just like that!! Thanks for the video, I will try this next time :)
You bet
Hi Ryan! I would like to start off by saying that this is an awesome video! I have a question for you, so hopefully you will see this. I work with a pony named Taco, we do pony rides for children. Sometimes a parent has to walk beside their child either because they are nervous or because they are too small to hold on themselves. Taco has recently started having a problem with people bumping into his side. He didn't always have this issue. We have had him checked for ulcers and kidney problems but he is all good and healthy other than the fact that he is overweight. He has been so reactive to people bumping into his side that he has kicked out at many people and usually he doesn't miss. He is a very smart pony with very good aim. I have tried telling people simply not to bump into him or he will kick them, but that doesn't sound very good when you are running an operation such as children's pony rides and people don't listen about half the time and get confused why they get kicked. We have tried this sort of pressure and release, but he still kicks out. Do you have any other suggestions that may help?
I've always found small steps forward are safer . Don't need to experience a kick to the head to know its not good
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Did I miss that physical issues were ruled out? No bean? Maybe a rib out? Etc?
Ryan. What is your suggestion if I only have a stall to work in?
Depends what your trying to accomplish in the stall
Redmond's Daily Gold
That’s great stuff, I need to give them a call
I understand that this exercise makes being touched on the belly the easy part, but why did you choose this over desensitizing by touching him until he stands still?
Any chance there’s a way to work on this exact kick when a school horse is in the cross ties ?
When I’m grooming before saddling she has a spot on her flank where she does this exact same kick. After riding she’s much better when I brush off and never does that threaten to kick move ?
This sounds weird, but my gelding did the same thing. I found that he was itchy and had a bug bite back there. Once I scratched really good, he was fine. Just a thought. He still has issues kicking on on his opposite flank, I will try this, but when he is in the arena he is fine. The crossties…attitude.
its like magic dude.
Hi I got a a horse that is real spooky how can I fix that
He could have a back problem, or tender ribs because of overtight girths
A hott cowboy working with beautiful animals...this was my fastest like and subscribe ever! 🤣🤣
The horse whisper
what brand hat do you have on?
Unbelievable, so cool.
Thats amazing
My horse does this every fall until mid January, anyone else have this issue. She’s totally fine the rest of the year
Wonderfull!
Are you craigs son?
When i try to touch my 1300 lb horse's legs she pushes forward, nips at me, or cow kicks...HELP! I can rub all over but she wont stand still so i can work on her hooves...she respects me with the flags but not when i try to stand her to lift a hoof...
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Set up for success
ULCERS!!!!!
No one likes to be touched up!
Is that an Arabian?
I like your sandwich.
That’s a warning a little ole cow kick there’s a secret stop acting like a lion tamer. Rub your back on his shoulder.see he’s freaking out. Horses have well horses sense.hes a real beauty. Try peppermints .