another nice one of the same Prof - Philosophy of Science as applied to Indian thought streams , Prof Gautam Desiraju ruclips.net/video/4q1eNHVQEsc/видео.html
🙏Brilliant talk on how civilisation survives or perishes with perfect example of Konigsberg and Kashi. How much ever the liberal, woke west tries, they cannot destroy our ancient civilisation of wisdom, spirituality and knowledge.
another nice one of the same Prof - Philosophy of Science as applied to Indian thought streams , Prof Gautam Desiraju ruclips.net/video/4q1eNHVQEsc/видео.html
Great analysis by Prof. Desiraju on the subtle but huge differences between intellectual thinking and intuitive thinking.... taking periodic table as an example to the current social thoughts on freedom, human rights, conflicts arising etc. Respects 🙏
Thank you Sir for such an insightful talk. It was not only fascinating but also an eye opener. Request Sangam Talks to arrange more such talks of Prof Desiraju.
Awesome talk. Professor is entrenched in scientific Western dominated established but did not hesitate to promote Indic civilizational thought processes. Sadly, this is an act of bravery just for stating a different opinion. Hope he will give more courage to more Indian scientists to speak up.
Dimitri Mendeleev was educated in St. Petersburg. He learnt Sanskrit from the Sanskrit dept whose professor was his close friend.. His periodic table formulated in 1869 remains the ultimate conceptual advancements in the history of science. Dimitry Mendeleev acknowledged in all humility that he could not have created his periodic table of elements without studying Panini’s (Hindu/Vedic sage) Sanskrit grammar..
धन्यवाद सर आकाश,वायू, अग्नी, पाणी, पृथ्वी शब्द. , स्पर्श,रुप ,रस. ,गंध पंचमहाभूते यावर भारतीय व पाश्चिमात्य लोकांची मानसिकता, चिंतन, मनन करणेत मूलभूत फरक आहे एक प्रश्न पडतो गण क्रमांक ११मध्ये तांब चांदी सोनं आहेत कारण त्यांचे गुणधर्म असतात असे शाळेत वाचून शिकवले जाते तांब, चांदी, सोनं त्यांचें रंग , किंमत वेगळे सामान्य माणसाला ,विद्यार्थ्यांना त्यांचे गुणधर्म समान कसे हा प्रश्न पडतो मला प्रश्न पडतो तांब, चांदी सोनं लोह,कथील,शिस हे धातू भारतीयांना प्राचीन काळापासून माहीत होते,वापरत होते तसेच वैशेषिक दर्शन यामध्ये कणाद ऋषीनी अणू संकल्पना मांडली आहे तरीही आवर्त सारणी चार विकास भारतात न होता युरोपियन डोबेरायनर,न्युलॅंड,,मेंडेलीव्ह, मोजले यांनी आवर्त सारणी विकसित केली याची काय कारण आहेत आजही शाळेत केवळ पाठांतर पध्दतीने आवर्त सारणी शिकविली जाते त्यामुळे विद्यार्थ्यांना रसायन शास्त्राचे भय वाटते विद्यार्थी संशोधक होत नाहीत धन्यवाद सर छान स्पष्टीकरण दिलात आपलाच महिंद्रकर यु शि सोलापूर १२/२/२०२३ रविवार
This talk was so utterly beautiful. I don't think my limited vocabulary can express, the currents of Satisfaction one gets after understanding Highly satisfying pieces of Gyan, are the currents by whole body was experiencing during the 35-39 min time frame. And at the end he connected the whole talk till the 40 minute mark with the absolutely seed of probably the whole geopolitical landscape (if it was a fruit) and where does this seed stands on the map of earth. Pranam sir. I still think my words were not enough to completely express what i felt and i think i could do some jugaad with the words that i do know.
Intuitive knowledge flows from the heart, A feeling that guides us from the start. It's born from experience and trust, A connection between us and the universe. Intellectual knowledge, on the other hand, Comes from study, reason and demand. It's built on facts and logical thought, A quest for truth that can never be bought. Both have their place in this world of ours, And both have the power to inspire and empower. But when they come together, they soar, Forging new paths and opening doors. Just like Mendeleev, who combined the two, Creating the periodic table anew. He blended art and science, heart and mind, To shed light on the elements, so finely refined. So let's embrace both, in all we do, For they are the keys to a world that's true. Where science and art blend in perfect rhyme, Creating a beauty that's both divine and sublime.
It's a wonderful session bridging Chemistry, Philosophy and History three otherwise seperate subjects. I agree with Putin's point of view that Ukraine is heart of Russia and the concept of Ukraine going west might sound alien to him but Ukraine is like Pakistan which is soul of Harappan civilization and yet we should digest the idea of it going away as it has become a tumour now. Same with Ukraine
Glad to hear your scientific talk with our institute giant tower as back ground - where I I was with institute in66-68 -connecting periodic tab. To musical notEs
ETHER for DIRECTION or Disha as DIRECTION is a SPECIAL SENSE BIOLOGICALLY ( same as Smell, touch, taste, vision). The direction in human is called SPATIAL ORIENTATION DETECTED by three SEMICIRCULAR CANALS in ears. Interestingly oriented in X, Y, Z axis.
Loved the Journey of Elements Discovery.. The Law of Triads and Arithmetic Progression.. The Law of Octaves and analogy with music.. The method of madness to see correlation between mass and volume and The BANG discovery of periodicity and prediction of newer elements and their properties by Mandaleef even before knowing them! And his trust on his deep intuition! Thanks 🙏 for this enlightening talk on my favorite topic of periodic table..
That difference between Intuitive knowledge vs Intellectual knowledge personally hits different especially when someone has to prove LHS=RHS or CPCTC to Parversal's theorem, Mellin transform, Glasser's master theorem, and many more. I can predict results colloquially which has developed over time through practice without having to do hefty calculations and footnotes. The real question is how the east especially Bharat will gain knowledge in their natural way.
Dimitri Mendeleev was educated in St. Petersburg. He learnt Sanskrit from the Sanskrit dept whose professor was his close friend.. His periodic table formulated in 1869 remains the ultimate conceptual advancements in the history of science. Dimitry Mendeleev acknowledged in all humility that he could not have created his periodic table of elements without studying Panini’s (Hindu/Vedic sage) Sanskrit grammar.. Dimitry Mendeleev gleaned that 7500 years ago, Panini the Sanskrit grammarian, did the phonological patterning of Sanskrit alphabet sounds as a function of their articulatory properties. .When Mendeleev proposed his periodic table, he noted gaps in the table and predicted that then-unknown elements existed with properties appropriate to fill those gaps. Indeed divinity was apparent.. Mendeleev theorized that the gaps that lay in his table must correspond to undiscovered elements, there was no other reason as Veda Srutis downloaded were infallible..
I have seldom come across such enlightening and fruitful talk especially by such a learned luminary. This leaves little scope for any doubt on the topic My heartfelt greetings and gratitude to the learned professor
It blown my mind listening to these Indian scientists. The Greeks merely imitating what they heard from ancient India, than somehow their childish incomplete imitation became the benchmark for science.
Excellent research and presentation. Truly appreciate your efforts and loving sangam talks for such endeavour. Sir humility is a virtue, yet abrahamic religions never promoted it. They only promoted muscle power, chauvinism, consumption and boisterous behaviours... An analytic view on this may please be done.
It's been a long time since I've heard words as wise as this video as a whole. But to be extremely specific about the words I'm speaking About It is 1. @35:01 In summary Intuitive knowledge - certainty but not communicability Intellectual knowledge - communicability 2. and @35:38
Nope. Intuitive knowledge can be communicated (in others can be written down) and explained logically. Mendeleev had access to Hindu/Vedic Sanskrit grammarian Panini's works. He understood it and also used the same model on elements. Like the musical scale of Sanskrit, the elements in the periodic table are also arranged, very logically, in rows and columns based on how each letter is pronounced. Like Panini, Mendeleev arrived at his discovery through a search for the “grammar” of the elements (using what he called the principle of isomorphism,..To give provisional names to his predicted elements, Mendeleev used the prefixes EKA- DVI and TRI-, from the Sanskrit names of digits 1, 2, and 3 depending upon whether the predicted element was one, two, or three places down from the known element of the same group in his table.. But to get to the intuition stage or "Eureka" moment, one needs thorough understanding of basics.
@@indianmilitary i think by communication here we mean the difference between having the formula but not the proof and having the fomula or it's working but having the proof too. The presence of proof being the factor of communicability. See, if someone predicted the earthquake in turkey sole days before and said his methods are in astrology, people would still not give the guy his deserved respect now. But if same done to any extent by a scientific method (one that can show it's method, this communicable) would get every praise by everyone.
Looking Pancha-tatwa(bhuta) as States of matter: Solid-Prithvi, Liquid-Jal, Energy-Agni, Gas-Vyau, Sky-Space (nearly no Energy/Particles) As energy is also a state of matter. No matter is lost in nuclear reaction.
Titus Lucretius (99 BC - 55 BC) postulated (in his "nature of things") 4 elements - Earth, air, water & fire. In that he differs from Indian Philosophy, in omitting sky (ether). ayah = Iron (not silver); "ayaskaanta" means attracter of Iron.
Dmitri Mendeleev's Mother had a huge role in inspiring his thought process, which again is TOTALLY UNLIKE the New World. I really hate to use the phrase "The West" to represent the regions that it popularly depicts, because "the West" puts Britain at the center of the world (like present day's world map), pushing their hegemony that we should consciously and actively oppose and discard.
Sir - Surely we can extend the approach of combining logical and intuitive to the ultimate reality of Brahman of Advaita. In fact exactly this is what rishis of upanishads did, termed this intuition as "shruti" the heard. Once arriving consciousness as the essence of Jeevatma logically, they took to intuition to postulate that this consciousness pervades, omnipresent.. Logic only approach of science is hence still struggling with the hard problem of consciousness
Mendeleev was intuitive intellectual guy….after scholarly background ..intuitive instinct insight of Mendeleev table visualised and missing spaces to be discovered in future were well predicted.
धन्यवाद सर आकाश,वायू, अग्नी, पाणी, पृथ्वी शब्द. , स्पर्श,रुप ,रस. ,गंध पंचमहाभूते यावर भारतीय व पाश्चिमात्य लोकांची मानसिकता, चिंतन, मनन करणेत मूलभूत फरक आहे एक प्रश्न पडतो गण क्रमांक ११मध्ये तांब चांदी सोनं आहेत कारण त्यांचे गुणधर्म असतात असे शाळेत वाचून शिकवले जाते तांब, चांदी, सोनं त्यांचें रंग , किंमत वेगळे सामान्य माणसाला विद्यार्थ्यांना त्यांचे गुणधर्म समान कसे मला प्रश्न पडतो तांब, चांदी सोनं लोह,कथील,शिस हे धातू भारतीयांना प्राचीन काळापासून माहीत होते,वापरत होते तसेच वैशेषिक दर्शन यामध्ये कणाद ऋषीनी अणू संकल्पना मांडली आहे तरीही आवर्त सारणी चा विकास भारतात न होता युरोपियन डोबेरायनर,न्युलॅंड,,मेंडेलीव्ह, मोजले यांनी आवर्त सारणी विकसित केली याची काय कारण आहेत आजही शाळेत केवळ पाठांतर पध्दतीने आवर्त सारणी शिकविली जाते त्यामुळे विद्यार्थ्यांना रसायन शास्त्राचे भय वाटते विद्यार्थी संशोधक होत नाहीत धन्यवाद सर छान स्पष्टीकरण दिलात आपलाच महिंद्रकर यु शि सोलापूर १२/२/२०२३ रविवार
यजूर्वदातील तील (रुद्र चमका तील) धातूंची आलेली नावे सरांनी सांगितली आहेत. त्यात सर्व धातू येतात. " ते सर्व धातू मला दे " असे आपण रुद्र पाठ करताना मागतो. ते एका ओळीत बसविलेले नसले तरी एकत्र आहेत. वर्गीकरण, अनुवर्तित्व व सारणीकरण आपल्या द्रष्ट्या ऋषींनी केले असले तरी ते सध्याच्या सारणी स्वरूपात (graphics) आणखी पुढे नेण्याचे श्रेय पाश्चात्य शास्त्रज्ञांना द्यावे लागेल. अशी हस्तलिखिते असतीलही. काय सांगावे? डार्विन च्या बाबतीत ही असेच असावे. येथे भाषण करणाऱ्या सरांना मराठी कळण्याची शक्यता फारच कमी आहे. म्हणून मी लिहिले.
Talking of Huntington, he WAS right about the clash between Islam and western civilization. Actually they are both part of the same family. Islam draws heavily upon the Old Testament. But changes stories. In a formal sense they all belong to the same family.
1. Western classical music had only five octaves (octaves was a misnomer, it should have been pentaves) before it came into contact with Indian knowledge. 2. On intellectual and intuitional systems. Isavasya Upanishad says, "Vidyam cha avidyam cha Yastadvedo'bhayam saha Avidyaya mrityum tirtva Vidyaya'mritamashnu te."
@@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108 It is a mantra (no. 11) from ईशावास्योपनिषद (ईशावास्य + उपनिषद = ईशावास्योपनिषद)। It cannot be called a verse, because the Sanskrit word mantra cannot be translated to English. It means, One who knows both Vidya (atmavidya) and Avidya (knowledge about प्रकृति or material sciences) should use Avidya to cross संसार and use Vidya to attain Immortality. Explanation: Material sciences have provided us all sorts of comforts and time-saving means. During hot summers we have AC. To travel quickly and save time, we have all kinds of vehicles. Use such things to get rid of our disadvantages, and use them to our advantage. And we should steadfastly practice atmavidya.
Very interesting Perhaps it's not a coincidence that "Russia" is originally from "Rishi" And "Rouble" is actually similar to "Rupalli", रूप्पली as some call "Rupee" in slang!!
@17:22 if Cannizzaro gave atomic weight concept in 1860 ...how can german scientist dobereiner give arithmetic mean of similar elements based on canizzaro's model (1860)? ...since dobereiner lived til 1849 ! @17:47
Indo-Slavonic Civilization is the Indo-European civilization based on the ancient religions of India, Russia, Greece and Armenia. It is the opposite to the Judaism from where the Islam and Western Christianity were derived. The values of these two opposite civilizations and religious systems are very different.
Ancestors of Jews, Christians and Muslims were disgraced descendants of Namboodiri Brahmins of Kerala (sound india) who migrated to Jerusalem, Europe and mecca after 4000 BCE (or in Kaliyuga)
Professor, it seems even though atomic number was not known at that time yet somehow Mendeleev reveres the atomic weight order at few places to make it consistent with yet to to be invented atomic number. Question of that girl was how did he do it. What told him that although atomic weight says order says something else but that’s not correct order .
Good catch. Globalists had different motives and their methods are also different. Wars are instigated for 1. Money 2. Separate JEWISH state called Israel (through world wars I and II) Viruses like Covid and ideologies like Marxism and its tentacles like Wokeism were created for de-population and NWO (new world order) agenda which is nothing but one world (without borders so- no nationalism, no majority religion (depending on country), no majority tradition, cancel culture etc) one currency (like bit coin) and total control of food and money by a few elites. Rest are all confused pawns who don't know the ultimate motive of this elite gang
Dimitri Mendeleev understood that Panini did the phonological patterning of Sanskrit alphabet sounds as a function of their articulatory properties. Mendeleev ordered the elements by their increasing atomic weight.. The atomic number (the number of protons in an atom’s nucleus), correlates with atomic weight, that fixes an element’s place in the periodic table…Mendelev just arranged the chemical properties of elements as a function of their atomic weights in his Periodic table.. This is impossible unless Sanskrit is the divine language. . Like Nikola Tesla , Dimitri Mendeleev also saw the Sri Yantra in his dreams. “I saw in a dream , a geometry and a table where all elements fell into place as required. Awakening, I immediately wrote it down on a piece of paper.” - Dimitry Mendeleev
@@KT-DBT-ST-AT is it possible that some ancient civilization lived at that point in India who got extinct and those who survived became hunter gatherers
@@KT-DBT-ST-AT Indian history is at the shadows of toba VOLCANIC ERUPTION and we don't know how devastating it was I assume it might even have killed people in North India only few have survived
@@time43200 civilization in 70000bce seems false with the information available to us today. Hence presence of such civilization is impossible because agriculture was not invented by then and no civilization can evolve without agriculture but indeed human presence or existence as hunter gatherers tribes or groups might be possible
@@time43200 agriculture invention is not possible before 16000 BCE because of ice age. We have the evidence of agriculture beginning in Bharat since 15000-16000 BCE Toba Supervolcanic Eruption (~72000 BCE) • Early Agriculture in India (~16000 BCE) It may be difficult to say when humans settled down for the first time in the Indian peninsula but the catastrophic eruption of Toba Volcano of Sumatra, Indonesia had completely wiped out the humanity, flora and fauna of India 75000 years ago. Toba’s erupted mass deposited an ash layer of about 15 centimetres (5.9 in) thick over the whole of India. Archaeological site of Jwalapuram in Kurnool district of Andhra Pradesh has evidence of human habitation before and after the event of Toba eruption. This Toba super-eruption was the largest explosive volcanic event of the past two million years. Possibly, only a few people living in the hills of Kashmir and HinduKush range might have survived. Gradually, North-western and North India became habitable. Thus, Sapta-Sindhu region and Sarasvati River became the cradle of Indian civilisation. The marine archaeological studies of Gulf of Cambay support the presence of human settlements in Gujarat from 29000 BCE. The history of ancient Indian agriculture dates back to at least 16000 BCE. The early North-Indian agrarian society might have developed a calendar that reckoned from the beginning of rainy season(from summer solstice). The history of ancient Indian agriculture dates back to at least 16000 BCE. The archaeological findings of early agriculture on the banks of Lahuradewa Lake in eastern UP have been carbon dated from 13000 BCE to 7300 BCE. Evidence of the early cultivation of barley and oats has been found from 15500 BCE in southern Sri Lanka. According to some scientific studies, Indian subcontinent had experienced a semiarid climate around 22000-16500 BCE and the climate gradually became favourable for agriculture after 16500 BCE. In all probability, ancient Indians had struggled for survival and mastered agriculture and cattle herding during the period of a semi-arid climate around 22000-16500 BCE. They might have also evolved a basic seasonal calendar (from Varṣā Ritu (summer solstice) to Varṣā Ritu) for the purpose of agriculture. Thus, agriculture and astronomy had been evolved to an advanced stage around 16000 BCE.
Konigsberg vanished forno fault if it, it was bombed, simple, The comparison with Kashi is erroneous. The discussion is also silent on the Chinese and Arab civilizations. After all they are also part of Eurasia
misunderstanding seems very deep in this presentation. Ukraine is the original, civilised Rus. Muscovite invaders are Mongols in essence, other 'civilisation" is destruction of cities, looting, riding of invaded territories.
It's nonsensical that sansikrit letters are like elements of periodic table.The question is why Mendalev used Rman alphabets instead of Russian alpha bets even though he was Russian. I have the answer coming up in my book. I developed the first periodic table in Arabic and Urdu,not very pretty. Periodic table is the alpha beta of the universe. Prof.Dr.Nasir Fazal gold medalist Cambridge USA 🇺🇸
Dimitri Mendeleev was educated in St. Petersburg. He learnt Sanskrit from the Sanskrit dept whose professor was his close friend.. His periodic table formulated in 1869 remains the ultimate conceptual advancements in the history of science. Dimitry Mendeleev he acknowledged in all humility that he could not have created his periodic table of elements without studying Panini’s (Hindu sage from India) Sanskrit grammar..
Mendeleev noted how Hindu/Vedic sage Panini (Sanskrit grammarian) broke the phonetic parallelism of sounds when the simplicity of the system required it, e.g. putting the velar to the right of the labial in the nasal row. .So he gave priority to isomorphism over atomic weights when they conflicted, e.g. putting beryllium in the magnesium family because it patterns with it even though, by atomic weight, it seemed to belong with nitrogen and phosphorus. .In both cases, the periodicities they discovered would later be explained by a theory of the internal structure of the elements.. Like the musical scale of Sanskrit, the elements in the periodic table are also arranged, very logically, in rows and columns based on how each letter is pronounced.
Dimitry Mendeleev gleaned that 7500 years ago, Panini the Sanskrit grammarian, did the phonological patterning of Sanskrit alphabet sounds as a function of their articulatory properties. .When Mendeleev proposed his periodic table, he noted gaps in the table and predicted that then-unknown elements existed with properties appropriate to fill those gaps. Indeed divinity was apparent.. Mendeleev theorized that the gaps that lay in his table must correspond to undiscovered elements, there was no other reason as Veda Srutis downloaded were infallible..
Like Panini, Mendeleev arrived at his discovery through a search for the “grammar” of the elements (using what he called the principle of isomorphism,..To give provisional names to his predicted elements, Mendeleev used the prefixes EKA- DVI and TRI-, from the Sanskrit names of digits 1, 2, and 3 depending upon whether the predicted element was one, two, or three places down from the known element of the same group in his table..
One of the most enlightening talk I've come across in recent time. Thanks Desiraju and Sangam talks.
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another nice one of the same Prof - Philosophy of Science as applied to Indian thought streams , Prof Gautam Desiraju ruclips.net/video/4q1eNHVQEsc/видео.html
🙏Brilliant talk on how civilisation survives or perishes with perfect example of Konigsberg and Kashi. How much ever the liberal, woke west tries, they cannot destroy our ancient civilisation of wisdom, spirituality and knowledge.
another nice one of the same Prof - Philosophy of Science as applied to Indian thought streams , Prof Gautam Desiraju ruclips.net/video/4q1eNHVQEsc/видео.html
Great analysis by Prof. Desiraju on the subtle but huge differences between intellectual thinking and intuitive thinking.... taking periodic table as an example to the current social thoughts on freedom, human rights, conflicts arising etc. Respects 🙏
Thank you Sir for such an insightful talk. It was not only fascinating but also an eye opener. Request Sangam Talks to arrange more such talks of Prof Desiraju.
Awesome talk. Professor is entrenched in scientific Western dominated established but did not hesitate to promote Indic civilizational thought processes. Sadly, this is an act of bravery just for stating a different opinion. Hope he will give more courage to more Indian scientists to speak up.
Dimitri Mendeleev was educated in St. Petersburg. He learnt Sanskrit from the Sanskrit dept whose professor was his close friend.. His periodic table formulated in 1869 remains the ultimate conceptual advancements in the history of science. Dimitry Mendeleev acknowledged in all humility that he could not have created his periodic table of elements without studying Panini’s (Hindu/Vedic sage) Sanskrit grammar..
धन्यवाद सर
आकाश,वायू, अग्नी, पाणी, पृथ्वी
शब्द. , स्पर्श,रुप ,रस. ,गंध
पंचमहाभूते यावर भारतीय व पाश्चिमात्य लोकांची मानसिकता, चिंतन, मनन करणेत मूलभूत फरक आहे
एक प्रश्न पडतो
गण क्रमांक ११मध्ये
तांब
चांदी
सोनं
आहेत कारण त्यांचे गुणधर्म असतात असे शाळेत वाचून शिकवले जाते
तांब, चांदी, सोनं त्यांचें रंग , किंमत वेगळे सामान्य माणसाला ,विद्यार्थ्यांना त्यांचे गुणधर्म समान कसे हा प्रश्न पडतो
मला प्रश्न पडतो तांब, चांदी सोनं
लोह,कथील,शिस हे धातू भारतीयांना प्राचीन काळापासून माहीत होते,वापरत होते
तसेच वैशेषिक दर्शन यामध्ये कणाद ऋषीनी अणू संकल्पना मांडली आहे
तरीही आवर्त सारणी चार विकास भारतात न होता
युरोपियन डोबेरायनर,न्युलॅंड,,मेंडेलीव्ह, मोजले
यांनी आवर्त सारणी विकसित केली याची काय कारण आहेत
आजही शाळेत केवळ पाठांतर पध्दतीने आवर्त सारणी शिकविली जाते
त्यामुळे विद्यार्थ्यांना रसायन शास्त्राचे भय वाटते
विद्यार्थी संशोधक होत नाहीत
धन्यवाद सर छान स्पष्टीकरण दिलात
आपलाच महिंद्रकर यु शि सोलापूर
१२/२/२०२३ रविवार
This talk was so utterly beautiful.
I don't think my limited vocabulary can express, the currents of Satisfaction one gets after understanding Highly satisfying pieces of Gyan, are the currents by whole body was experiencing during the 35-39 min time frame.
And at the end he connected the whole talk till the 40 minute mark with the absolutely seed of probably the whole geopolitical landscape (if it was a fruit) and where does this seed stands on the map of earth.
Pranam sir.
I still think my words were not enough to completely express what i felt and i think i could do some jugaad with the words that i do know.
Intuitive knowledge flows from the heart,
A feeling that guides us from the start.
It's born from experience and trust,
A connection between us and the universe.
Intellectual knowledge, on the other hand,
Comes from study, reason and demand.
It's built on facts and logical thought,
A quest for truth that can never be bought.
Both have their place in this world of ours,
And both have the power to inspire and empower.
But when they come together, they soar,
Forging new paths and opening doors.
Just like Mendeleev, who combined the two,
Creating the periodic table anew.
He blended art and science, heart and mind,
To shed light on the elements, so finely refined.
So let's embrace both, in all we do,
For they are the keys to a world that's true.
Where science and art blend in perfect rhyme,
Creating a beauty that's both divine and sublime.
Never thought of this philosophical side of mendeleev classification. Really enlightening!
What an enlightening talk! Thank you so much for this 🙏🏼
One of the best lectures I heard.... very knowledgeable and erudite Professor U are sir.... thousand salutes
Namaskar Professor Desiraju, could you pls have another session dedicated to functioning of shabda tanmatra where physics creates chemistry
It's a wonderful session bridging Chemistry, Philosophy and History three otherwise seperate subjects. I agree with Putin's point of view that Ukraine is heart of Russia and the concept of Ukraine going west might sound alien to him but Ukraine is like Pakistan which is soul of Harappan civilization and yet we should digest the idea of it going away as it has become a tumour now. Same with Ukraine
Glad to hear your scientific talk with our institute giant tower as back ground - where I I was with institute in66-68 -connecting periodic tab. To musical notEs
ETHER for DIRECTION or Disha as DIRECTION is a SPECIAL SENSE BIOLOGICALLY ( same as Smell, touch, taste, vision). The direction in human is called SPATIAL ORIENTATION DETECTED by three SEMICIRCULAR CANALS in ears. Interestingly oriented in X, Y, Z axis.
Loved the Journey of Elements Discovery..
The Law of Triads and Arithmetic Progression..
The Law of Octaves and analogy with music..
The method of madness to see correlation between mass and volume and
The BANG discovery of periodicity and prediction of newer elements and their properties by Mandaleef even before knowing them! And his trust on his deep intuition!
Thanks 🙏 for this enlightening talk on my favorite topic of periodic table..
Brilliant work 👏🏽 by team Sangam Talks may you continue to grow each day
That difference between Intuitive knowledge vs Intellectual knowledge personally hits different especially when someone has to prove LHS=RHS or CPCTC to Parversal's theorem, Mellin transform, Glasser's master theorem, and many more. I can predict results colloquially which has developed over time through practice without having to do hefty calculations and footnotes. The real question is how the east especially Bharat will gain knowledge in their natural way.
Dimitri Mendeleev was educated in St. Petersburg. He learnt Sanskrit from the Sanskrit dept whose professor was his close friend.. His periodic table formulated in 1869 remains the ultimate conceptual advancements in the history of science. Dimitry Mendeleev acknowledged in all humility that he could not have created his periodic table of elements without studying Panini’s (Hindu/Vedic sage) Sanskrit grammar..
Dimitry Mendeleev gleaned that 7500 years ago, Panini the Sanskrit grammarian, did the phonological patterning of Sanskrit alphabet sounds as a function of their articulatory properties. .When Mendeleev proposed his periodic table, he noted gaps in the table and predicted that then-unknown elements existed with properties appropriate to fill those gaps. Indeed divinity was apparent.. Mendeleev theorized that the gaps that lay in his table must correspond to undiscovered elements, there was no other reason as Veda Srutis downloaded were infallible..
The periodic table came in a dream to Mendeleev. Intuitional knowledge.
Dream my foot. He based the entire thing on the periodic structure of Samskritam. It has been shown.
Prof.Desiraju Garu 🙏🙏🙏
Very fascinating.. periodic table and stories behind it are really interesting.
great talk....such topic is the need of hour youth.....keep continue for all science
Great Talk!
Great info...how deep science is related to Dharma..or how Gyan becomes Vigyan and how Vigyan helps to get the Gyan...
I have seldom come across such enlightening and fruitful talk especially by such a learned luminary. This leaves little scope for any doubt on the topic
My heartfelt greetings and gratitude to the learned professor
Thank you
This is simply superb!
It blown my mind listening to these Indian scientists. The Greeks merely imitating what they heard from ancient India, than somehow their childish incomplete imitation became the benchmark for science.
Excellent research and presentation. Truly appreciate your efforts and loving sangam talks for such endeavour.
Sir humility is a virtue, yet abrahamic religions never promoted it. They only promoted muscle power, chauvinism, consumption and boisterous behaviours... An analytic view on this may please be done.
Such a nice video. I am going to have this in my hard disc and watch it everyday .
So many valuable insights...so many pointers to the vast and deep knowledge East (Bharat/ Sanatan Sanskriti) has...
Thank you so much
Reading the professor's book Bharat: India 2.0. I highly recommend you all read this book.
Driving a car or any axial vehicle is also a intuitive knowledge, how much we can go to the non driver side of the road, comes with practice.
Glad to see that some part what we have studied in school is worth a super intellectual discussion....
Really good session would love to see more such sessions
Excellent boss mind blowing
Excellant incite into ways of thinking.
It's been a long time since I've heard words as wise as this video as a whole.
But to be extremely specific about the words I'm speaking About
It is
1. @35:01
In summary
Intuitive knowledge - certainty but not communicability
Intellectual knowledge - communicability
2. and @35:38
Nope. Intuitive knowledge can be communicated (in others can be written down) and explained logically. Mendeleev had access to Hindu/Vedic Sanskrit grammarian Panini's works. He understood it and also used the same model on elements. Like the musical scale of Sanskrit, the elements in the periodic table are also arranged, very logically, in rows and columns based on how each letter is pronounced.
Like Panini, Mendeleev arrived at his discovery through a search for the “grammar” of the elements (using what he called the principle of isomorphism,..To give provisional names to his predicted elements, Mendeleev used the prefixes EKA- DVI and TRI-, from the Sanskrit names of digits 1, 2, and 3 depending upon whether the predicted element was one, two, or three places down from the known element of the same group in his table..
But to get to the intuition stage or "Eureka" moment, one needs thorough understanding of basics.
@@indianmilitary i think by communication here we mean the difference between having the formula but not the proof and having the fomula or it's working but having the proof too.
The presence of proof being the factor of communicability.
See, if someone predicted the earthquake in turkey sole days before and said his methods are in astrology, people would still not give the guy his deserved respect now.
But if same done to any extent by a scientific method (one that can show it's method, this communicable) would get every praise by everyone.
Looking Pancha-tatwa(bhuta) as
States of matter:
Solid-Prithvi, Liquid-Jal, Energy-Agni, Gas-Vyau, Sky-Space (nearly no Energy/Particles)
As energy is also a state of matter.
No matter is lost in nuclear reaction.
अति सुंदर
Very interesting, thanks
Everything from new point of view
Thank you, sir. 🙏
Very interesting
Hey Prabhu!
Great innovative...
Very informative.
Wonderful explanation 👍
Love from IIT
Sir
Titus Lucretius (99 BC - 55 BC) postulated (in his "nature of things") 4 elements - Earth, air, water & fire. In that he differs from Indian Philosophy, in omitting sky (ether).
ayah = Iron (not silver); "ayaskaanta" means attracter of Iron.
Dmitri Mendeleev's Mother had a huge role in inspiring his thought process, which again is TOTALLY UNLIKE the New World.
I really hate to use the phrase "The West" to represent the regions that it popularly depicts, because "the West" puts Britain at the center of the world (like present day's world map), pushing their hegemony that we should consciously and actively oppose and discard.
I too am foxed what was behind the intuition of Mendeleev which asked him to fevered the order at few places.
Thanks for this!
Sir - Surely we can extend the approach of combining logical and intuitive to the ultimate reality of Brahman of Advaita. In fact exactly this is what rishis of upanishads did, termed this intuition as "shruti" the heard. Once arriving consciousness as the essence of Jeevatma logically, they took to intuition to postulate that this consciousness pervades, omnipresent..
Logic only approach of science is hence still struggling with the hard problem of consciousness
Quite correct
West did not have the concept of embodied experience because of their lack of understanding of correct metaphysics. Abrahamic religions did not help
At 5.44 in the video I saw that Akasa can be heard ? We can hear Akasa ?? What does it mean
Can someone explain please 😊
Mendeleev was intuitive intellectual guy….after scholarly background ..intuitive instinct insight of Mendeleev table visualised and missing spaces to be discovered in future were well predicted.
Awesome!!
Great info thanks for sharing
धन्यवाद सर
आकाश,वायू, अग्नी, पाणी, पृथ्वी
शब्द. , स्पर्श,रुप ,रस. ,गंध
पंचमहाभूते यावर भारतीय व पाश्चिमात्य लोकांची मानसिकता, चिंतन, मनन करणेत मूलभूत फरक आहे
एक प्रश्न पडतो
गण क्रमांक ११मध्ये
तांब
चांदी
सोनं
आहेत कारण त्यांचे गुणधर्म असतात असे शाळेत वाचून शिकवले जाते
तांब, चांदी, सोनं त्यांचें रंग , किंमत वेगळे सामान्य माणसाला विद्यार्थ्यांना त्यांचे गुणधर्म समान कसे
मला प्रश्न पडतो तांब, चांदी सोनं
लोह,कथील,शिस हे धातू भारतीयांना प्राचीन काळापासून माहीत होते,वापरत होते
तसेच वैशेषिक दर्शन यामध्ये कणाद ऋषीनी अणू संकल्पना मांडली आहे
तरीही आवर्त सारणी चा विकास भारतात न होता
युरोपियन डोबेरायनर,न्युलॅंड,,मेंडेलीव्ह, मोजले
यांनी आवर्त सारणी विकसित केली याची काय कारण आहेत
आजही शाळेत केवळ पाठांतर पध्दतीने आवर्त सारणी शिकविली जाते
त्यामुळे विद्यार्थ्यांना रसायन शास्त्राचे भय वाटते
विद्यार्थी संशोधक होत नाहीत
धन्यवाद सर छान स्पष्टीकरण दिलात
आपलाच महिंद्रकर यु शि सोलापूर
१२/२/२०२३ रविवार
यजूर्वदातील तील (रुद्र चमका तील) धातूंची आलेली नावे सरांनी सांगितली आहेत. त्यात सर्व धातू येतात. " ते सर्व धातू मला दे " असे आपण रुद्र पाठ करताना मागतो. ते एका ओळीत बसविलेले नसले तरी एकत्र आहेत.
वर्गीकरण, अनुवर्तित्व व सारणीकरण आपल्या द्रष्ट्या ऋषींनी केले असले तरी ते सध्याच्या सारणी स्वरूपात (graphics) आणखी पुढे नेण्याचे श्रेय पाश्चात्य शास्त्रज्ञांना द्यावे लागेल. अशी हस्तलिखिते असतीलही. काय सांगावे?
डार्विन च्या बाबतीत ही असेच असावे.
येथे भाषण करणाऱ्या सरांना मराठी कळण्याची शक्यता फारच कमी आहे. म्हणून मी लिहिले.
Talking of Huntington, he WAS right about the clash between Islam and western civilization. Actually they are both part of the same family. Islam draws heavily upon the Old Testament. But changes stories. In a formal sense they all belong to the same family.
Yes they are all Abrahamic religions
1. Western classical music had only five octaves (octaves was a misnomer, it should have been pentaves) before it came into contact with Indian knowledge.
2. On intellectual and intuitional systems. Isavasya Upanishad says,
"Vidyam cha avidyam cha
Yastadvedo'bhayam saha
Avidyaya mrityum tirtva
Vidyaya'mritamashnu te."
Pls explain what those 3 verses sanskrit verses mean.
@@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108
It is a mantra (no. 11) from ईशावास्योपनिषद (ईशावास्य + उपनिषद = ईशावास्योपनिषद)। It cannot be called a verse, because the Sanskrit word mantra cannot be translated to English.
It means, One who knows both Vidya (atmavidya) and Avidya (knowledge about प्रकृति or material sciences) should use Avidya to cross संसार and use Vidya to attain Immortality.
Explanation: Material sciences have provided us all sorts of comforts and time-saving means. During hot summers we have AC. To travel quickly and save time, we have all kinds of vehicles. Use such things to get rid of our disadvantages, and use them to our advantage. And we should steadfastly practice atmavidya.
Very interesting
Perhaps it's not a coincidence that "Russia" is originally from "Rishi"
And "Rouble" is actually similar to "Rupalli", रूप्पली as some call "Rupee" in slang!!
Thanks
Original density of Gallium ,is 5.9 or 5.91 density unit?
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@17:22 if Cannizzaro gave atomic weight concept in 1860 ...how can german scientist dobereiner give arithmetic mean of similar elements based on canizzaro's model (1860)? ...since dobereiner lived til 1849 ! @17:47
The weights of the elements he quoted came from Dalton etc.
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Indo-Slavonic Civilization is the Indo-European civilization based on the ancient religions of India, Russia, Greece and Armenia. It is the opposite to the Judaism from where the Islam and Western Christianity were derived. The values of these two opposite civilizations and religious systems are very different.
Ancestors of Jews, Christians and Muslims were disgraced descendants of Namboodiri Brahmins of Kerala (sound india) who migrated to Jerusalem, Europe and mecca after 4000 BCE (or in Kaliyuga)
Professor, it seems even though atomic number was not known at that time yet somehow Mendeleev reveres the atomic weight order at few places to make it consistent with yet to to be invented atomic number. Question of that girl was how did he do it. What told him that although atomic weight says order says something else but that’s not correct order .
That was his intuition. Non communicable.
Genius
Interesting thought. But how to explain the wars led by US in different parts of the world? Does not follow black line ?
Good catch. Globalists had different motives and their methods are also different. Wars are instigated for 1. Money 2. Separate JEWISH state called Israel (through world wars I and II)
Viruses like Covid and ideologies like Marxism and its tentacles like Wokeism were created for de-population and NWO (new world order) agenda which is nothing but one world (without borders so- no nationalism, no majority religion (depending on country), no majority tradition, cancel culture etc) one currency (like bit coin) and total control of food and money by a few elites. Rest are all confused pawns who don't know the ultimate motive of this elite gang
Prof is disecting europian monopoly!
i didn't got the pythagorous theorem proof
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Sir, sanskrit numbers names already are pretty close to Russian numerals... Possibly they are from a common source.
Dimitri Mendeleev understood that Panini did the phonological patterning of Sanskrit alphabet sounds as a function of their articulatory properties. Mendeleev ordered the elements by their increasing atomic weight.. The atomic number (the number of protons in an atom’s nucleus), correlates with atomic weight, that fixes an element’s place in the periodic table…Mendelev just arranged the chemical properties of elements as a function of their atomic weights in his Periodic table.. This is impossible unless Sanskrit is the divine language. . Like Nikola Tesla , Dimitri Mendeleev also saw the Sri Yantra in his dreams. “I saw in a dream , a geometry and a table where all elements fell into place as required. Awakening, I immediately wrote it down on a piece of paper.” - Dimitry Mendeleev
Newlands Law of Octaves is represented wrong. It should be,
H1 x x x x x x He2
Li3 Be4 B5 C6 N7 O8 F9 Ne10
Na Mg Al Si P S Cl Ar
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SIR DO YOU THINK THAT TOBA VOLCANIC ERUPTION MIGHT HAVE MADE INDIAN POPULATION EXTINCT
@@KT-DBT-ST-AT is it possible that some ancient civilization lived at that point in India who got extinct and those who survived became hunter gatherers
@@KT-DBT-ST-AT Indian history is at the shadows of toba VOLCANIC ERUPTION and we don't know how devastating it was I assume it might even have killed people in North India only few have survived
@@time43200 civilization in 70000bce seems false with the information available to us today. Hence presence of such civilization is impossible because agriculture was not invented by then and no civilization can evolve without agriculture but indeed human presence or existence as hunter gatherers tribes or groups might be possible
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 But is it possible that toba VOLCANIC erruption caused agriculture to get ended at that time
@@time43200 agriculture invention is not possible before 16000 BCE because of ice age. We have the evidence of agriculture beginning in Bharat since 15000-16000 BCE
Toba Supervolcanic Eruption (~72000 BCE)
• Early Agriculture in India (~16000 BCE)
It may be difficult to say when humans settled down for the first time in the Indian peninsula but the catastrophic eruption of Toba Volcano of Sumatra, Indonesia had completely wiped out the humanity, flora and fauna of India 75000 years ago. Toba’s erupted mass deposited an ash layer of about 15 centimetres (5.9 in) thick over the whole of India.
Archaeological site of Jwalapuram in Kurnool district of Andhra Pradesh
has evidence of human habitation before and after the event of Toba eruption. This Toba super-eruption was the largest explosive volcanic event of the past two million years.
Possibly, only a few people living in the hills of Kashmir and HinduKush range might have survived. Gradually, North-western and North India became habitable. Thus, Sapta-Sindhu region and Sarasvati River became the cradle of Indian civilisation. The marine archaeological studies of Gulf of Cambay support the presence of human settlements in Gujarat
from 29000 BCE. The history of ancient Indian agriculture dates back to at least 16000 BCE. The early North-Indian agrarian society might have developed a calendar that reckoned from the beginning of rainy season(from summer solstice).
The history of ancient Indian agriculture dates back to at least 16000 BCE. The archaeological findings of early agriculture on the
banks of Lahuradewa Lake in eastern UP have been carbon dated from 13000 BCE to 7300 BCE. Evidence of the early cultivation of barley and oats has been found from 15500 BCE in southern Sri Lanka. According to some scientific studies, Indian subcontinent had experienced a semiarid climate around 22000-16500 BCE and the climate gradually became
favourable for agriculture after 16500 BCE. In all probability, ancient Indians had struggled for survival and mastered agriculture and cattle
herding during the period of a semi-arid climate around 22000-16500 BCE. They might have also evolved a basic seasonal calendar (from Varṣā Ritu (summer solstice) to Varṣā Ritu) for the purpose of agriculture. Thus,
agriculture and astronomy had been evolved to an advanced stage around 16000 BCE.
siberia was a part of jamboo dweep so there should no surprise that his language originated from sanskrit
ayas is iron (not silver)
Certainly there is a dispute on ayas
The problem is that Eurasian side think that their thinking is lower than on westeren side..nd this is the major problem
The timestamp are all wrong
then give your timestamp and prove it.
Lauh is iron..as far as I know
Konigsberg vanished forno fault if it, it was bombed, simple, The comparison with Kashi is
erroneous. The discussion is also silent on the Chinese and Arab civilizations. After all they are also part of Eurasia
misunderstanding seems very deep in this presentation.
Ukraine is the original, civilised Rus.
Muscovite invaders are Mongols in essence, other 'civilisation" is destruction of cities, looting, riding of invaded territories.
It's nonsensical that sansikrit letters are like elements of periodic table.The question is why Mendalev used Rman alphabets instead of Russian alpha bets even though he was Russian. I have the answer coming up in my book.
I developed the first periodic table in Arabic and Urdu,not very pretty.
Periodic table is the alpha beta of the universe.
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Dimitri Mendeleev was educated in St. Petersburg. He learnt Sanskrit from the Sanskrit dept whose professor was his close friend.. His periodic table formulated in 1869 remains the ultimate conceptual advancements in the history of science. Dimitry Mendeleev he acknowledged in all humility that he could not have created his periodic table of elements without studying Panini’s (Hindu sage from India) Sanskrit grammar..
Mendeleev noted how Hindu/Vedic sage Panini (Sanskrit grammarian) broke the phonetic parallelism of sounds when the simplicity of the system required it, e.g. putting the velar to the right of the labial in the nasal row. .So he gave priority to isomorphism over atomic weights when they conflicted, e.g. putting beryllium in the magnesium family because it patterns with it even though, by atomic weight, it seemed to belong with nitrogen and phosphorus. .In both cases, the periodicities they discovered would later be explained by a theory of the internal structure of the elements.. Like the musical scale of Sanskrit, the elements in the periodic table are also arranged, very logically, in rows and columns based on how each letter is pronounced.
Dimitry Mendeleev gleaned that 7500 years ago, Panini the Sanskrit grammarian, did the phonological patterning of Sanskrit alphabet sounds as a function of their articulatory properties. .When Mendeleev proposed his periodic table, he noted gaps in the table and predicted that then-unknown elements existed with properties appropriate to fill those gaps. Indeed divinity was apparent.. Mendeleev theorized that the gaps that lay in his table must correspond to undiscovered elements, there was no other reason as Veda Srutis downloaded were infallible..
Like Panini, Mendeleev arrived at his discovery through a search for the “grammar” of the elements (using what he called the principle of isomorphism,..To give provisional names to his predicted elements, Mendeleev used the prefixes EKA- DVI and TRI-, from the Sanskrit names of digits 1, 2, and 3 depending upon whether the predicted element was one, two, or three places down from the known element of the same group in his table..
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