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Story 1: OP sounds like they may be a high functioning sociopath. Not the Criminal Minds sociopath but the psychological definition. Unable to feel emotions but can mimic them perfectly. Regardless of the definition, the wife and friends are the ones at fault. OP literally did nothing wrong.
I knew it, he should at least see a few docs to confirm it. But the lack of feelings and the need to study how is the best to show them raise a red flag for me.
So she confesses to cheating Op doesn't outright confirm he is/isn't cheating Who's side does the friends take? The one that actually confess. And then they hire private investigators, who all find nothing? Jesus Christ, the ex's bestie was right, OP does deserve better. Better wife and better friends
Story 1: I'll be honest. OP sounds amazing. Cheating is sometimes a power play, and what shocked her the most was his attitude. It worked like an Uno reverse card. I remember a story where the guy acted like normal after he caught his gf cheating with another guy on his bed, he was like "Dont worry babe. I just came to get some things. You two have fun." Then left and she was like WTF. He didn't even ghost her. They saw each other at gatherings and stuff. She was so shocked that she begged him to talk about it, kinda like wishing he fought her or something. She freaked out so much because of that that ultimately she ended herself. Like, she couldn't accept he didn't love her enough to fight for her or at least be mad for her betrayal.
story 1 op is not the jerk at all the ex wife cheated and then tired to put blame onto him am gladd he got away form those freinds cause they side with a cheater which is really stupid i hope op ca find peace in life aguin
Lacking emotions is psychopathy not sociopathy, I think. His story is so fascinating. Psychopaths, although being emotionaless, they still can have a conscience and functioning moral compass. He is a good person and she was the jerk for cheating. To be honest, I envy him so much for being emotionaless.
@@leofelix4063 got it backwards. sociopaths are emotionless. psychopaths still have emotions. copy and pasted off a psychology website: A sociopath is incapable of feelings such as empathy, regret, and remorse. She doesn't experience emotional pain herself; thus, she can't understand the expression of those feelings in others. Sociopaths don't have feelings or emotions.
Story 1 OP might be a psycho or sociopath due to the fact that he can’t really process his own emotions, but did absolutely nothing wrong. She made her decision, and now she has to suffer for it
Sociopathic traits but from they way the story is told it's not extreme stories. However, it seems to be major traits as he can't even feel anything from family.
There is a similar story about a psychopathic op that sounds fairly similar to this one, as he fakes emotions to blend in and he's very self aware that he doesn't know how to process any feelings
Last story sounded like managers at a cinema I used to work at - or rather the last 5 years (after management changed into the school bully clique). You try to phone in sick, they would threaten you with disciplinary actions (hinting that you would be unemployed, and that they will make sure no-one will ever hire you) so you are forced to come into work while ill. Then they would put you on food areas, ignoring that you even look ill - only to get angry with you for "putting customers at risk".
Story 1, the guy is a functional sociopath. He knows there is something wrong, but he has trained himself to react as if he has feelings. I feel bad for him, but if he doesn't get counciling things could get bad.
Not everyone who is a sociopath is going to be a criminal. He also could be undiagnosed on the spectrum. I'm similar. I have to look up stuff to explain how I'm feeling and dont have strong connections to people from growing up in the foster system
Doubt he is a sociopath. They tend to get angry about being wronged. There a a few personality disorders that could explain his actions. Also, honestly some types of autism would explain it.
In the first story, the guy acted so well, so mentally stable, so logical and cold that no one believed that could be possible, so much so that the concept of emotional intelligence is something alien for them. I'm going to keep this one as an example on how to behave later in life.
Ya, thats not emotional stability, that is a serious mental condition and isnt a good way of going about life. Op has found some coping with it, but id recommend them look into it more. Do not idolize this.
@Flarflenugen Of course, the wife was wrong for cheating, but I'm with you're right. OP goes through life with no attachment or feelings for anyone, including family.
@@tanjirouzumaki444 sociopathy. An extreme disconnect from emotions. Its not something to be idolized. Its not dangerous either, but no one should want to strive to be emotionless
@@tanjirouzumaki444probably not, a lot of people think they do, but the guy seems to be on the spectrum at least, which isn’t a bad thing but as he said, he doesn’t know or understand emotional social queues, and he basically has to guess on what to do in situations that require it, now if you truly believe your like that, you should get that checked out, unless your rich already 💀
That first story tho, I'm pursuing a guy who displays similar emotional issues and it's scary to think he is trying his best but ultimately can't really care deep inside
Story 1: OP is not the jerk at all. When you find out your SO is cheating on you, nihilist or not, some people just go completely numb. No tears, no anger, nothing. I can understand the OP's reaction... especially since ive been cheated on before. By the same token, i cannot understand why the wife (and other people) would then immediately try and accuse the other of cheating as some kind of justification, and why anyone would want to try and take her side on this. Those "friends" are nothing of the sort and OP can do much better then them. Good thing he had security cameras as well, it probably made the divorce easier. The ex probably just misses the OP's money rather then missing the OP himself.. since he mentioned he was rich. OP really needs to go zero contact with the ex-wife and friends, they clearly dont care about the OP at all, especially the ones who hired PI's on the OP. Story 2: Always bad management that has to ruin it. You should NEVER tell a worker to "quit if you dont like it". With the way the world is, people arent putting up with people's crap too. Kind of funny that John ended up going from the GM of a store to a bank teller. Story 3: The restaurant mentality of "you better show up unless you're in ICU, jail or dead" really needs to go away, especially after Covid. I get that time is money and people need to work and make money, but if you are truly sick, stay away from the kitchen. Ive seen it so many times over the last 20+ years its pretty sad.
My original ex fiance was like that. To this day, whenever she sleazes out of the woodwork, she denies everything she has done...from sleeping with my friends to likely sleeping with my father. She drove one friend to suicide for sleeping with HIS father. Pure evil and addicted to a lot of drugs, she now tries to contact me through my sister.
with op being likely rich, it sounds like that woman who cheated on him, wants to be back with him so badly just to be surrounded by his riches more then to just move on from it, so yeah she's likely those golddiggers who goes after someone's wealth more, then to pursue a relationship.
Story 1 is sort of relatable to me. While I do feel emotions, I struggle to find the right words to describe my feelings, or I simply don’t know how I feel and how I should react. I am autistic, though, so maybe that's why this is sort of relatable to me. 🤷
True most peopek struggle with controling their emotions, his problem is the exact opposite. I say hes he a good man on his shoes I would end up as a killer or worse.
Welp, I am like the story 1 op and I'm fine, not knowing how to react and being like him is actualy the best thing that can happen to you, cuz u always have an edge on nearly everybody
Oh wow, a legitimate sociopath. That's rare...like absurdly rare. Rare to the point where if he's not a serial killer he will be soon...or a politician.
4:58 you can’t call someone a heartless jerk because they decided not to turn into the freaking Hulk because of something like this. It generally seems that this wife only wanted attention in the fact that all your feelings and Emotions for projected synthetically it might seem like she was not getting the attention she felt she deserved but reality he just decided that it didn’t matter because anything he did would go back on him later he would have to take responsibility for any outgoing action that he put into place in the situation.
So, for everyone's knowledge and OP's knowledge, in the first story not only is he not the jerk, I know what it is that makes him think he's broken. (Long read ahead) OP is what is known as a High Functioning Sociopath, with what appears to be an extremely high Emotional IQ, higher than most non-Sociopaths. To clarify, don't take TV's interpretation of Sociopathy, there's a great many good and hardworking people with it. They are very aware from a young age that their lack of connections, and depending on the individual sometimes a deadening of most emotions, and most of them do everything they can to determine how to fit into society. They're not these crazed murderers TV says they are, they're not these people who intentionally manipulate others to get into positions of power, they're not sitting around thinking how they want to hurt people. Common folk may feel a little weirded out by finding out someone they love has no connection to them, not in the same way a Non-Sociopath would, and it unfortunately makes them feel like they're being used for some sort of gain. Truthfully, let me say that if a Sociopath has chosen to be your friend, and they feel they have no emotional connection to you, that means they have found something other than pure emotional attachment to keep you around. They may not feel what you do, but that doesn't make their desires less valid or more manipulative than anyone else. The fact that OP goes out of his way to be a good friend, husband, son, coworker, etcetera, is because even though he doesn't feel the emotional connection, he WANTS to be those things. Not perceived as them, BE them. To him it might be mainly because it's easier to fit into society that way, but he doesn't half-ass it like many Non-Sociopaths do. He is good to his parents, he is good to his friends, he was amazing with his wife! I believe every word he says when it comes to being as good as he was, because it is a statistical fact that Sociopaths have less penchant for lying, even when the truth is going to paint them in a bad light, because they don't feel the shame or social need to remain in good standing. He openly committed faux pas at the party, at least in the Sociopath handbook. He flat-out let his mask come off, instead of reacting to it and keeping in-character (So to speak) he allowed himself to be himself. It caused many of their friends to look at him unfavorably, to dislike him for a long time. He didn't fight for his pride or to keep his good name, he allowed them to believe whatever they wanted because he truly didn't care. That is who he is, so the fact he believes he treated her well I believe it, at the same time it's obvious by how he talks that he doesn't get it, why she cheated on him. He might understand that some have the desire to cheat, but he doesn't understand the drive of it. The man can't even say "No" when a person shows up at his place to basically force him to this party. He has no concept of saying "No" when his ex tries to talk to him twice just because he doesn't want to be rude. He is very aware of other people, to the point he's almost treated himself as an NPC to give people the best that he can. It's not creepy, it IS methodical, he is just trying to fit in and be what he's perceived as the best version of himself with other people. His best version, a disconnected personality, is better than a great many "Socially Average" people.
You sure it's sociopathy and not psychopathy? I've always been taught sociopathy is more unhinged - they still can feel some emotions, especially anger. They're more impulsive. They're also made instead of born (environmental instead of genetic). OP sounds more like psychopathy, with the complete inability to feel emotion or empathy, but still taught himself to pretend. Fully in control of himself even in high-stress situations, very self aware. But completely detached emotionally.
Story 1: the OP explanation about himself strongly suggest it has asperges syndrome. You are not the jerk, your wife cheated on you, if she had issues with your behaviour she should have talked to you about it and try to find a solution.
Asperges causes problems when socializing, tho. I think that this guy just developed a very deep emotional intelligence but might have gone a little overboard to the point that it almost feels like a psicopath.
Lemme say this. As someone with Asperger's, sometimes it does manifest as struggling with emotions. But the main issue is picking up on social cues. I can't read the room very easily and I worry a lot in convos like 'did I do something wrong', 'was I too enthusiastic', 'did I say something that bothers people', etc. Nor am I really good with handling the emotions of others.
Story 1: Does OP’s wife work for PG&E!? Because she is gaslighting OP like crazy! Story 2: Yet again feeb managers who abuse employees and misuse their powers. John never intended to hire someone for that job, just saddle OP with two jobs for one paycheck. Story 3: I would sue that boss for intentional infliction of emotional stress. Sue the workplace as well for a hostile workplace environment. File a complaint against them to the labor board for violating FMLA, and complain or the health department for forcing sick employees to come into work.
First story, while i am impressed at the OPs way they handled that whole situation...based on psychology, the fact that op has such a..disinterest/lack of emotions.. could border on sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies..because no one could feel nothing for anything, all the time. They even said their closest friends and family..which..while impressive is...concerning. but all that aside. Good on op for not rising to her baiting and such
I feel for op #1. Never felt a strong attechment to most of my family. Aunts, uncles, siblings. Nothing only my grandmother. Even some ex got nothing out of me. Definitely not a jerk
For the first story, I completely feel that, I would pretend who I was, that was for five years, and now I have a little bit of an identity crisis but I’m getting over it
The last story... it's the thing that sucks about being a great employee, doing your job & being responsible! It means the boss expects MORE of you than other employees, which is not fair, especially during an example like this!
My thought too. The way he learned emotions and all that stuff plus has a great sense of responsability. He is a good person and his parents raised him very well. He is absolutely not the jerk.
Yo op is the MVP in the first story he didn't even react at all he was so chill when his ex wife cheated. His ex wife was stunned 🤯 then she said he cheated but he didn't. She got pissed & went on her knees & cried. Oh well see you in divorce court
Not trying to diagnose op or call him the bad guy but I have a feeling he might be an undiagnosed sociopath. But he isn't wrong to not care abut a cheating wife.
I was thinking this too. But it seems he doesn't really need a diagnosis judging from how he adapted himself really well to society. Most of the time, therapy is there to help the patient with understanding emotions and how to react to it. The only thing that makes me think he could need it is he is expressing some distress, saying he is sick in his head, and he could be great for him to talk to someone who could reassure him he is doing everything right.
@@orelliaorellia142exactly. He isn't in absolute need of psychological assessement or help as he seems to have found a way to live his life. But I would say that having the assessement and putting a name on his condition could be comforting compared to just saying there's something wrong with him. Mental condition is just as serious a handicap as physical handicaps. And I know people with physical handicaps who felt better once the handicap was diagnosed rather than thinking there's just something wrong and they're not putting enough efforts into things. I would guess it is somewhat similar with mental conditions, having the diagnosis might help him realize his condition was out of his control and he did as much as he could with said condition
The only attachment I’ve actually had genuinely, was my bff (who I met a year ago) and any animal that I’ve seen since they are the only things who comfort me
Story 1: Bros emotions just went null, also don’t call me out for being a nerd but that kinda reminds me of dumbledore from Harry Potter cause dumbledore literally asked when curse would kill him with and I quote “the air of asking for the weather forecast”.
Story 1 For anyone thinking sociopaths are all horrible people, you’re wrong. Not feeling emotion does not mean you have no moral compass, and it does not mean you can’t be a good person, this man is an example of that.
Bit of advice for the guy in story 1. If you're in a situation you aren't prepared to respond to. Especially if people are wondering why you aren't reacting. The phrase "I'm not sure how to respond to this" will make people think you're in shock and it will make your lack of reaction seem understandable.
I honestly want to meet OP from story 1. He seems like a pretty cool guy. I'm okay with his outlook on life: there isn't much to care for in life anyway. Even less so when you're treated poorly. He did ehat he needed to do, and got away from a bad situation. Being emotionless sounds a little rough, but i like that he takes responsibility for everything he does, unlike 95% of humanity.
The first guy was so confident nobody knows he's faking emotions, but I think people actually noticed it. But bc it's sth vague and they also don't feel emotionally connected to hi im, they don't feel the need to tell him that. I meant, from the way he described the situation at the party, you could tell he ain't got no friends, just acquaintances.
In story one, when OP said she "needed to suffer because of it," I feel like it's not horrible, but it could be better. He could have said, "and you need to face the consequences."
The first OP's level of stoicism is alarming, perhaps he has symptoms of psychopathy. It would be good to have a checkup with a psychologist just to be sure.
@@viviennemorgan7217 Irrelevant. He's not the asshole, but he's definitely an undiagnosed psycho/sociopath. He openly admits he feels no attachment to anyone, that's pretty textbook.
@@IBreak4It why do some people think that he's a psychopath, when he's not one and i know that he's not a jerk like come on dude, he ruined his relationship with his cheating wife?
1st story op sounds like a sociopath, like not the internet slang sociopath, like the textbook diagnosis of a sociopath, they typically can’t feel emotions and most of them put on a ‘face’ of the emotion they want to express
First story: The OP is possibly a narcissist or sociopath. That doesn't always mean a bad thing, it's just someone who is unable to feel genuine emotion towards others. They don't know how to feel love or react to things the way others do. This is probably why he studied psychology at such a young age, to understand how he's supposed to react in social situations. NTA, he's responding in the only way he knows how.
Cheated husband seems to have issues. But he isn’t wrong to leave someone who cheated on them. But how he describes his own feelings, he should probably get a therapist.
Story 1: OP doesn’t sound like a nihilist, he sounds like a psychopath. He has actually does extensive research into how to pretend to act like a person, that is not something nihilists do, nihilists don’t think anything matters so they wouldn’t put in any effort into something that doesn’t matter like that
Tbh I don't think he's a sociopath/psychopath I think it's just that he's hyper aware of logical futility of emotions other than being used as a tool for communication, often people can go through life like robots and when they finally understand that emotional response internally / recognize it they can unload years and years of pent up emotions, it can be caused by suppression at a young age.
Story 1: I would suggest op to learn to turn back on that emotional switch. I'm able to shut emotions on and off. Takes practice but it makes reacting to things more easier. Feeling nothing can be very damaging. Mentally and physically of those around you. As they don't know why ur acting off rather than common reactions to certain situations.
Story 1: OP is not in the wrong there. He just doesn't feel emotion. I don't condone what the ex-wife did, but I do get the idea behind it. The OP doesn't feel emotion, so he also doesn't feel love and while he might act the right way there is no love there. He's acting like it was his job to love his ex-wife regardless if he liked it or not. So she, who might be rightfully be missing that love, sought it somewhere else to either get that love it or elicite an emotion from OP. The best course of action would have been that the wife should have gotten a divorce instead of all the drama she created.
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Story 1: OP sounds like they may be a high functioning sociopath. Not the Criminal Minds sociopath but the psychological definition. Unable to feel emotions but can mimic them perfectly. Regardless of the definition, the wife and friends are the ones at fault. OP literally did nothing wrong.
Suppper facts. I feel sorry for dude
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I knew it, he should at least see a few docs to confirm it. But the lack of feelings and the need to study how is the best to show them raise a red flag for me.
This dude is the people from movies when they just cant
Could be high-functioning autism.
Amazing how cheaters and their defendants turn on the actual victim so quickly.
my favorite part is when he described being a sociopath in the first 2.5 minutes
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So she confesses to cheating
Op doesn't outright confirm he is/isn't cheating
Who's side does the friends take? The one that actually confess. And then they hire private investigators, who all find nothing? Jesus Christ, the ex's bestie was right, OP does deserve better. Better wife and better friends
Indeed
The private inverstigators part is such a violation of privacy... I'd ditch the friends along with the wife
Story 1: I'll be honest. OP sounds amazing. Cheating is sometimes a power play, and what shocked her the most was his attitude. It worked like an Uno reverse card. I remember a story where the guy acted like normal after he caught his gf cheating with another guy on his bed, he was like "Dont worry babe. I just came to get some things. You two have fun." Then left and she was like WTF. He didn't even ghost her. They saw each other at gatherings and stuff. She was so shocked that she begged him to talk about it, kinda like wishing he fought her or something. She freaked out so much because of that that ultimately she ended herself. Like, she couldn't accept he didn't love her enough to fight for her or at least be mad for her betrayal.
i would like to see that one if you could find it
story 1 op is not the jerk at all the ex wife cheated and then tired to put blame onto him am gladd he got away form those freinds cause they side with a cheater which is really stupid i hope op ca find peace in life aguin
and knowing that the women that cheated, it looks like she one of those golddigger who doesn't care about anything except getting rich fast.
Lacking emotions is psychopathy not sociopathy, I think. His story is so fascinating. Psychopaths, although being emotionaless, they still can have a conscience and functioning moral compass. He is a good person and she was the jerk for cheating.
To be honest, I envy him so much for being emotionaless.
Not a psychopath in its true sense but a high functioning psychopath , huge distinction
@@krozz1 I agree.
@@leofelix4063 got it backwards. sociopaths are emotionless. psychopaths still have emotions. copy and pasted off a psychology website: A sociopath is incapable of feelings such as empathy, regret, and remorse. She doesn't experience emotional pain herself; thus, she can't understand the expression of those feelings in others. Sociopaths don't have feelings or emotions.
Psychopaths are cold and calculated and sociopaths are angry and Impulsive
Story 1 OP might be a psycho or sociopath due to the fact that he can’t really process his own emotions, but did absolutely nothing wrong. She made her decision, and now she has to suffer for it
Sociopathic traits but from they way the story is told it's not extreme stories. However, it seems to be major traits as he can't even feel anything from family.
Im Trying to find op to tell him that, he seems to be a good person
He should go to a professional to treat that
There is a similar story about a psychopathic op that sounds fairly similar to this one, as he fakes emotions to blend in and he's very self aware that he doesn't know how to process any feelings
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
Last story sounded like managers at a cinema I used to work at - or rather the last 5 years (after management changed into the school bully clique).
You try to phone in sick, they would threaten you with disciplinary actions (hinting that you would be unemployed, and that they will make sure no-one will ever hire you) so you are forced to come into work while ill. Then they would put you on food areas, ignoring that you even look ill - only to get angry with you for "putting customers at risk".
Story 1, the guy is a functional sociopath. He knows there is something wrong, but he has trained himself to react as if he has feelings. I feel bad for him, but if he doesn't get counciling things could get bad.
My exact thoughts.
Not everyone who is a sociopath is going to be a criminal. He also could be undiagnosed on the spectrum. I'm similar. I have to look up stuff to explain how I'm feeling and dont have strong connections to people from growing up in the foster system
Even psychologists won't diagnose a patient without seeing him. It takes more than self-taught apathy and nihilism to be a sociopath
@@dharma391 Exactly this. Pretty sure you need to commit a crime to be diagnosed in some states in the US
Doubt he is a sociopath. They tend to get angry about being wronged. There a a few personality disorders that could explain his actions. Also, honestly some types of autism would explain it.
In the first story, the guy acted so well, so mentally stable, so logical and cold that no one believed that could be possible, so much so that the concept of emotional intelligence is something alien for them. I'm going to keep this one as an example on how to behave later in life.
Ya, thats not emotional stability, that is a serious mental condition and isnt a good way of going about life.
Op has found some coping with it, but id recommend them look into it more.
Do not idolize this.
@@Flarflenugen what mental condition? I go about life the same way.
@Flarflenugen Of course, the wife was wrong for cheating, but I'm with you're right. OP goes through life with no attachment or feelings for anyone, including family.
@@tanjirouzumaki444 sociopathy. An extreme disconnect from emotions.
Its not something to be idolized. Its not dangerous either, but no one should want to strive to be emotionless
@@tanjirouzumaki444probably not, a lot of people think they do, but the guy seems to be on the spectrum at least, which isn’t a bad thing but as he said, he doesn’t know or understand emotional social queues, and he basically has to guess on what to do in situations that require it, now if you truly believe your like that, you should get that checked out, unless your rich already 💀
That first story tho, I'm pursuing a guy who displays similar emotional issues and it's scary to think he is trying his best but ultimately can't really care deep inside
Story 1: OP is not the jerk at all. When you find out your SO is cheating on you, nihilist or not, some people just go completely numb. No tears, no anger, nothing. I can understand the OP's reaction... especially since ive been cheated on before. By the same token, i cannot understand why the wife (and other people) would then immediately try and accuse the other of cheating as some kind of justification, and why anyone would want to try and take her side on this. Those "friends" are nothing of the sort and OP can do much better then them. Good thing he had security cameras as well, it probably made the divorce easier. The ex probably just misses the OP's money rather then missing the OP himself.. since he mentioned he was rich. OP really needs to go zero contact with the ex-wife and friends, they clearly dont care about the OP at all, especially the ones who hired PI's on the OP.
Story 2: Always bad management that has to ruin it. You should NEVER tell a worker to "quit if you dont like it". With the way the world is, people arent putting up with people's crap too. Kind of funny that John ended up going from the GM of a store to a bank teller.
Story 3: The restaurant mentality of "you better show up unless you're in ICU, jail or dead" really needs to go away, especially after Covid. I get that time is money and people need to work and make money, but if you are truly sick, stay away from the kitchen. Ive seen it so many times over the last 20+ years its pretty sad.
My original ex fiance was like that. To this day, whenever she sleazes out of the woodwork, she denies everything she has done...from sleeping with my friends to likely sleeping with my father. She drove one friend to suicide for sleeping with HIS father. Pure evil and addicted to a lot of drugs, she now tries to contact me through my sister.
with op being likely rich, it sounds like that woman who cheated on him, wants to be back with him so badly just to be surrounded by his riches more then to just move on from it, so yeah she's likely those golddiggers who goes after someone's wealth more, then to pursue a relationship.
Exactly what i was thinking when he mentioned that.
With friends like that who needs enemies
Story 1 op nta, but by the way he talks, he sounds like a sociopath but managed to keep his moral compass
yeah definitely he seems like he has no emotions
My thoughts exactly
Yeah. His parents raised himself well.
To her to couples court, break up with her and get proof to see who cheated first. That would hurt her bad.
or divorce
Story 1 is sort of relatable to me. While I do feel emotions, I struggle to find the right words to describe my feelings, or I simply don’t know how I feel and how I should react. I am autistic, though, so maybe that's why this is sort of relatable to me. 🤷
True most peopek struggle with controling their emotions, his problem is the exact opposite.
I say hes he a good man on his shoes I would end up as a killer or worse.
Welp, I am like the story 1 op and I'm fine, not knowing how to react and being like him is actualy the best thing that can happen to you, cuz u always have an edge on nearly everybody
Oh wow, a legitimate sociopath. That's rare...like absurdly rare. Rare to the point where if he's not a serial killer he will be soon...or a politician.
Story 1 bro low-key a psychopath, NTA tho 😂
I can't really feel my feelings either but at the same time I can feel them and show them
4:58 you can’t call someone a heartless jerk because they decided not to turn into the freaking Hulk because of something like this. It generally seems that this wife only wanted attention in the fact that all your feelings and Emotions for projected synthetically it might seem like she was not getting the attention she felt she deserved but reality he just decided that it didn’t matter because anything he did would go back on him later he would have to take responsibility for any outgoing action that he put into place in the situation.
So, for everyone's knowledge and OP's knowledge, in the first story not only is he not the jerk, I know what it is that makes him think he's broken. (Long read ahead)
OP is what is known as a High Functioning Sociopath, with what appears to be an extremely high Emotional IQ, higher than most non-Sociopaths. To clarify, don't take TV's interpretation of Sociopathy, there's a great many good and hardworking people with it. They are very aware from a young age that their lack of connections, and depending on the individual sometimes a deadening of most emotions, and most of them do everything they can to determine how to fit into society. They're not these crazed murderers TV says they are, they're not these people who intentionally manipulate others to get into positions of power, they're not sitting around thinking how they want to hurt people.
Common folk may feel a little weirded out by finding out someone they love has no connection to them, not in the same way a Non-Sociopath would, and it unfortunately makes them feel like they're being used for some sort of gain. Truthfully, let me say that if a Sociopath has chosen to be your friend, and they feel they have no emotional connection to you, that means they have found something other than pure emotional attachment to keep you around. They may not feel what you do, but that doesn't make their desires less valid or more manipulative than anyone else.
The fact that OP goes out of his way to be a good friend, husband, son, coworker, etcetera, is because even though he doesn't feel the emotional connection, he WANTS to be those things. Not perceived as them, BE them. To him it might be mainly because it's easier to fit into society that way, but he doesn't half-ass it like many Non-Sociopaths do. He is good to his parents, he is good to his friends, he was amazing with his wife! I believe every word he says when it comes to being as good as he was, because it is a statistical fact that Sociopaths have less penchant for lying, even when the truth is going to paint them in a bad light, because they don't feel the shame or social need to remain in good standing.
He openly committed faux pas at the party, at least in the Sociopath handbook. He flat-out let his mask come off, instead of reacting to it and keeping in-character (So to speak) he allowed himself to be himself. It caused many of their friends to look at him unfavorably, to dislike him for a long time. He didn't fight for his pride or to keep his good name, he allowed them to believe whatever they wanted because he truly didn't care. That is who he is, so the fact he believes he treated her well I believe it, at the same time it's obvious by how he talks that he doesn't get it, why she cheated on him. He might understand that some have the desire to cheat, but he doesn't understand the drive of it.
The man can't even say "No" when a person shows up at his place to basically force him to this party. He has no concept of saying "No" when his ex tries to talk to him twice just because he doesn't want to be rude. He is very aware of other people, to the point he's almost treated himself as an NPC to give people the best that he can. It's not creepy, it IS methodical, he is just trying to fit in and be what he's perceived as the best version of himself with other people. His best version, a disconnected personality, is better than a great many "Socially Average" people.
You sure it's sociopathy and not psychopathy? I've always been taught sociopathy is more unhinged - they still can feel some emotions, especially anger. They're more impulsive. They're also made instead of born (environmental instead of genetic). OP sounds more like psychopathy, with the complete inability to feel emotion or empathy, but still taught himself to pretend. Fully in control of himself even in high-stress situations, very self aware. But completely detached emotionally.
@@IBreak4It You actually have been taught it backwards. It's legit the other way around.
@@CobaltTungstenno they got it right
Story 1: the OP explanation about himself strongly suggest it has asperges syndrome.
You are not the jerk, your wife cheated on you, if she had issues with your behaviour she should have talked to you about it and try to find a solution.
Or that he is a psychopath (like the clinical disease, not the Hollywood trope).
Asperges causes problems when socializing, tho. I think that this guy just developed a very deep emotional intelligence but might have gone a little overboard to the point that it almost feels like a psicopath.
@@omegazero6082def physcopathic behaviot, not really autism. People with autism still care, just differently. This isnt that
The Op is a high functioning psychopath ...
Lemme say this. As someone with Asperger's, sometimes it does manifest as struggling with emotions. But the main issue is picking up on social cues. I can't read the room very easily and I worry a lot in convos like 'did I do something wrong', 'was I too enthusiastic', 'did I say something that bothers people', etc. Nor am I really good with handling the emotions of others.
Story 1: Does OP’s wife work for PG&E!? Because she is gaslighting OP like crazy!
Story 2: Yet again feeb managers who abuse employees and misuse their powers. John never intended to hire someone for that job, just saddle OP with two jobs for one paycheck.
Story 3: I would sue that boss for intentional infliction of emotional stress. Sue the workplace as well for a hostile workplace environment. File a complaint against them to the labor board for violating FMLA, and complain or the health department for forcing sick employees to come into work.
First story, while i am impressed at the OPs way they handled that whole situation...based on psychology, the fact that op has such a..disinterest/lack of emotions.. could border on sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies..because no one could feel nothing for anything, all the time. They even said their closest friends and family..which..while impressive is...concerning. but all that aside. Good on op for not rising to her baiting and such
Story 1 is like listening to Dexter Morgan’s monologues.
Story 1: "You're a sociopath!" -Alucard
I feel for op #1. Never felt a strong attechment to most of my family. Aunts, uncles, siblings. Nothing only my grandmother. Even some ex got nothing out of me. Definitely not a jerk
It’s fucking hilarious seeing all the keyboard psychologist trying to diagnose op.
Story 1 sounds like he has a lack of emotions almost borderline sociopathy
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For the first story, I completely feel that, I would pretend who I was, that was for five years, and now I have a little bit of an identity crisis but I’m getting over it
The last story... it's the thing that sucks about being a great employee, doing your job & being responsible! It means the boss expects MORE of you than other employees, which is not fair, especially during an example like this!
First story: Man you are not the jerk. I wish you well.
First guy's a sociopath. He can't feel anything for anyone, which is what a sociopath is mainly.
Story one is actually a really good plot
They wanted to see op hurt but the dude leaves like a chad.😂
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To OP 1, don't worry I feel the same, I thought I was the only one
Story 1: OP may not be the jerk in this situation, but he's definitely a sociopath.
i’d say he’s a psychopath (lol i’m glad i’m not the only one that thought that)
My thought too. The way he learned emotions and all that stuff plus has a great sense of responsability. He is a good person and his parents raised him very well. He is absolutely not the jerk.
@@orelliaorellia142 agreed, totally nta
He is not sociopath
@@KadeStringer2.0he cant feel emotions or care about others emotions, thats a textbook
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Story 1 is a sociopath. I feel so sorry for people like this. May the Most High have mercy
Story one: Woah buddy the “she has seen every inch of my body” was NOT needed😟
Yo op is the MVP in the first story he didn't even react at all he was so chill when his ex wife cheated. His ex wife was stunned 🤯 then she said he cheated but he didn't. She got pissed & went on her knees & cried. Oh well see you in divorce court
Not trying to diagnose op or call him the bad guy but I have a feeling he might be an undiagnosed sociopath. But he isn't wrong to not care abut a cheating wife.
I was thinking this too. But it seems he doesn't really need a diagnosis judging from how he adapted himself really well to society. Most of the time, therapy is there to help the patient with understanding emotions and how to react to it. The only thing that makes me think he could need it is he is expressing some distress, saying he is sick in his head, and he could be great for him to talk to someone who could reassure him he is doing everything right.
@@orelliaorellia142exactly. He isn't in absolute need of psychological assessement or help as he seems to have found a way to live his life. But I would say that having the assessement and putting a name on his condition could be comforting compared to just saying there's something wrong with him. Mental condition is just as serious a handicap as physical handicaps. And I know people with physical handicaps who felt better once the handicap was diagnosed rather than thinking there's just something wrong and they're not putting enough efforts into things. I would guess it is somewhat similar with mental conditions, having the diagnosis might help him realize his condition was out of his control and he did as much as he could with said condition
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Does Noah notice how psychopathic the one guy is like that is a trait of a psychopath
The only attachment I’ve actually had genuinely, was my bff (who I met a year ago) and any animal that I’ve seen since they are the only things who comfort me
sounds to me like he's a sociopath
Story 1: Bros emotions just went null, also don’t call me out for being a nerd but that kinda reminds me of dumbledore from Harry Potter cause dumbledore literally asked when curse would kill him with and I quote “the air of asking for the weather forecast”.
Story 1
For anyone thinking sociopaths are all horrible people, you’re wrong. Not feeling emotion does not mean you have no moral compass, and it does not mean you can’t be a good person, this man is an example of that.
*Wow! First OP is a sociopath lol.*
Story one OP He ended things like a chad
First Story's OP has no enemies
when he says her pousture is bad i realized my back hurt because of my posture
Story 1: That must be a lonely existence. It's not his fault, but it isn't good to be in an empty relationship.
The ex was a gold digger.
The op is the most giga Chad man I have ever seen the cold hearted Ty ing that he said at 4:49 was hilarious 😂
I feel the same with emotion apart from a occasional paranoia
Bit of advice for the guy in story 1. If you're in a situation you aren't prepared to respond to. Especially if people are wondering why you aren't reacting. The phrase "I'm not sure how to respond to this" will make people think you're in shock and it will make your lack of reaction seem understandable.
The first story is written by a sociopath.
I honestly want to meet OP from story 1. He seems like a pretty cool guy. I'm okay with his outlook on life: there isn't much to care for in life anyway. Even less so when you're treated poorly. He did ehat he needed to do, and got away from a bad situation. Being emotionless sounds a little rough, but i like that he takes responsibility for everything he does, unlike 95% of humanity.
Can’t wait to watch this
op is a sociopath indeed.
Nah the bff of the wife was on a rampage
Op is a sociopath, but he was raised well.
The first guy was so confident nobody knows he's faking emotions, but I think people actually noticed it. But bc it's sth vague and they also don't feel emotionally connected to hi im, they don't feel the need to tell him that. I meant, from the way he described the situation at the party, you could tell he ain't got no friends, just acquaintances.
Story 1 is Lowkey sounding like a sociopath or has psychopathy of some kind
In story one, when OP said she "needed to suffer because of it," I feel like it's not horrible, but it could be better. He could have said, "and you need to face the consequences."
NGL OP in Story 1 reminds me of the American Psycho lol
First year of the new year eh...this dates way back. Hahaha
Story 1
Not feeling emotions probably helped op but maybe he shoukd get that checked out
Why can I relate to the first story soo much it seems weird.
The first OP's level of stoicism is alarming, perhaps he has symptoms of psychopathy.
It would be good to have a checkup with a psychologist just to be sure.
Op 1 is a psychopath hands down
true but still not the a
the wife cheated on him.
Never said he was, just that he's psychopathic
@@viviennemorgan7217 Irrelevant. He's not the asshole, but he's definitely an undiagnosed psycho/sociopath. He openly admits he feels no attachment to anyone, that's pretty textbook.
@@IBreak4It why do some people think that he's a psychopath, when he's not one and i know that he's not a jerk like come on dude, he ruined his relationship with his cheating wife?
story 1: *outro music playing*
1st story op sounds like a sociopath, like not the internet slang sociopath, like the textbook diagnosis of a sociopath, they typically can’t feel emotions and most of them put on a ‘face’ of the emotion they want to express
At first I thought OP from story 1 had Aspergers but it turns out he's just a sociopath🎉
And one that played the ex for the fool she was.
First story: The OP is possibly a narcissist or sociopath. That doesn't always mean a bad thing, it's just someone who is unable to feel genuine emotion towards others. They don't know how to feel love or react to things the way others do. This is probably why he studied psychology at such a young age, to understand how he's supposed to react in social situations. NTA, he's responding in the only way he knows how.
I was wondering if the first one might have traits of socio/psychopath
Guy sounds like sociopath
First dude wild
Story #1: She did cheat
Story #3: If the person did come in WHILE sick that restaurant is shut down & manager would lose X $100 - $1000 per hour
Pancakes approved
LOLis the OP from story one dexter morgan?
Story 1: is OP a clinical sociopath/narcissist?
Consensus seems to be High Functioning Sociopath.
THE OP OF STORY ONE IS WAYYYYYYYYYYY TO SKILLED AT WHAT HE DOES😅
Yeah...I think the first guy might be a functioning sociopath. That doesn't make him the jerk though.
Cheated husband seems to have issues. But he isn’t wrong to leave someone who cheated on them. But how he describes his own feelings, he should probably get a therapist.
Story 1: OP doesn’t sound like a nihilist, he sounds like a psychopath. He has actually does extensive research into how to pretend to act like a person, that is not something nihilists do, nihilists don’t think anything matters so they wouldn’t put in any effort into something that doesn’t matter like that
Tbh I don't think he's a sociopath/psychopath I think it's just that he's hyper aware of logical futility of emotions other than being used as a tool for communication, often people can go through life like robots and when they finally understand that emotional response internally / recognize it they can unload years and years of pent up emotions, it can be caused by suppression at a young age.
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Story 1: I would suggest op to learn to turn back on that emotional switch. I'm able to shut emotions on and off. Takes practice but it makes reacting to things more easier. Feeling nothing can be very damaging. Mentally and physically of those around you. As they don't know why ur acting off rather than common reactions to certain situations.
In story one the op is not the jerk
I understand the person out story 1 i dont feal any emotions
Story 1: OP is not in the wrong there. He just doesn't feel emotion. I don't condone what the ex-wife did, but I do get the idea behind it. The OP doesn't feel emotion, so he also doesn't feel love and while he might act the right way there is no love there. He's acting like it was his job to love his ex-wife regardless if he liked it or not. So she, who might be rightfully be missing that love, sought it somewhere else to either get that love it or elicite an emotion from OP. The best course of action would have been that the wife should have gotten a divorce instead of all the drama she created.
A little known FYI, Reddit discriminates against fathers raising their children when the mother has gone absent. They have rejected every single one of my stories and I can tell you right now some of the stories I have from being with my entitled EX would literally fill up three seasons of The Jerry Springer show at least