Lapidary Time!! Trimming and Flat Lapping with a Tile saw !!!
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- In this quick video I show how use a trim saw blade on a tile saw and also show how I fashion a flat lap disc to a tile saw
I mention a bit but not nearly enough about how DANGEROUS it is to attach wheels and discs to machines that where not made for them especially when they are spinning faster then they where made to spin
Tile saw blades can cost 25-50$ where trim saw blades cost 4-10$ also in my opinion trim saw blades work better for cutting gemstones especially ones that are smaller or more fragile
That is freaking BRILLIANT! OMG - I can totally do this!
Matt Manzano definitely it’s easy and satisfying I have another video on this topic coming soon
Absolutely. I have one laying around im about to turn into this. Bunch of quartz I have to play with
Dave... thanks so much for the great info [& disclaimer ;)]. I got my #80 6" flat lap disc last Friday and I've been using it all weekend. I got lucky because I didn't have to chop up my tile saw -- everything that needed to move was loosened with a screwdriver. I even got lucky with the reservoir because it makes a perfect 3/4 splash guard so I can stay dry -- and I have full access to the disc for grinding and water drip. I did have to order an odd size lap disc with a 5/8" arbor -- I got it from China for $18.66 including shipping, and it took about a week to arrive. It seems they have a decent assortment of 5/8" discs. I also got an arbor adaptor that reduces it to 1/2" so I can buy the common size. I've been trying to adapt something into a flat lap and your video was exactly what I needed -- Thanks, BIG TIME!
geeder no way THANK YOU you made my day, plz keep me posted about your progress it's my honor to help
I need to know where you got the arbor adapter to go from 5/8 to 1/2. Please
@@juliejones6468 It''s been a while -- but I'm pretty sure I got it from Harbor Freight. If I'm wrong on that -- check the Walmart online catalog -- that's where I found the odd size cheap Chinese disks.
@@geeder9086 I don't want to buy the other disks. Cause I bought a whole set of 1/2". So I so need to know about the arbor adapter, I was online all night and couldn't find anything.
I use a 7" mk 303 sintered rim blade on my tile saw. I cut up too 600 agates with it. The blades are $30 on Amazon and they're the best blades you can buy.
Nice! I like the videos that show how to improvise.
Thanks for the information! That was great advice about a flat lap.
Great video dave!!! I'm making one now. I have a 5/8 arbour. Only can find 1/2 inch. Does 1/2 work on 5/8 ?
This video helped me so thank you for making it.
No problem my friend it was my pleasure to make and I’m really happy that it helped
This is my next toy to buy, this is gold my friend. I do have a drop saw and she's ready for a blade change 😉 bigger rocks hehe great video once again, nga mihi my friend
Tripping on Rocks Thank you for enjoying this video this is the last hurrah before I kind of changed my video style and took the channel a little bit more seriously I do plan on making a much better video showing off how to turn these into flat labs I cut up one of my tile saws to modify it even more to get rid of the hood above and I show people how I get water onto the flatlapalso what I do to make cabing easier by using old yoga mats to make a sponge backing for every day silicon carbide sandpaper that I use on these tiles saw to Cab
That video will come out soon after the rest of my Tucson gem and mineral show 2020 series and it will definitely happen when I get home from California in late March thank you so much for watching my friend I really appreciate it make sure to get a tile saw similar to this kind so that it’s easily modified not every tile Saw is made the same But luckily the cheapest ones tend to be the easiest to modify until lapidary machines
Fantastic can't hardly wait. Thanks great tips.
A fantastic video I also use the same tile saw
Good idea 👍🏽 always think 🤔 out of the box/I’m definitely going to make one
Definitely my friend good idea there is another video I made not too long ago in turning a drill press into a flat lap
Wow, great idea! Thanks for sharing it.
Thanks for watching
I am actually looking for a way to fabricate a portable saw and flat lap to bri g with me whille on the road. Your video is clearly going to inspire me. Thanks
Pierre Bélair thanks for watching my friend I really appreciate you watching :) A lot of folks have been looking to make a machine that is portable yet effective I think the best machine I’ve seen for the money or folks who either use a small generator or that use a Gas powered motor to drive there machines I personally am always more interested in the gas powered motor because of the horsepower you could buy one of those old Laura tone machines that have a combo saw and grinder and get it to spin 1775 RPM with a good 2 hp behind it with a gas powered motor from Harbor freight
Spray some wd 40 on that blade and try after a few hours should come off . The reason it won’t come of is due to poor maintenance you have to clean after each use unless you can afford to buy a new unit . Thanks for the tips bro and happy rock cutting
Big Easy thank you so much for watching I really appreciate it and thanks for the tips I will try it out for sure
Which lapidary saw blade do you recommend for cutting chrysocolla type materials and where do I purchase it from?
MK brand
Awesome!
Wow! Who knew? You could use a cheap router control to vary the speed for lapping. Or you could use a slightly more expensive PWM speed controller that's available on Amazon and ebay. Thanks for the vid.
jt simmons definitely my friend You could definitely use it to control the speed I plan on making a lot more videos on using a tile saw to float Lab when I get home to New Mexico
If I knew what, "router control" meant. Or if I knew how to install a, "PWM speed controller". Not everyone knows these things.
Excellent idea! After watching your video, I have bought a wet tile saw for cutting, trimming and flat lapping as well. Since most suppliers recommend oil coolants for lapidary blade, I'd like to know if you use oil coolants for cutting stones.
I personally don't use oil I use water but companies do make there machines to run on oil and it is better for both the rock a d machine to use oil I just don't because of the mess
Thanks for watching my friend :)
Lapidary Dave Thank you for your reply! Looking forward to your very informative videos!
What is the brand of the tile saw
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Awesome idea! You helped me so much! I'm definitely going to do this, maybe even remove the motor and build my own with a plastic pot. Question though: what is the reason you plug the drain hole? Also is there a plug and play speed controller you could use? Thank you again and subscribed!
it sure on plug i have t watched this in years so don’t remember but you definitely might be able to figure out a speed controller
Again thank you. I bought a QEPfor $75 and actually took the motor out and built a flat lapidary table and installed it. It works great and looks great too. Still could use a speed controller that's next. Total build cost with a 6" lap disc was $165. I'm into the hobby thanks to your ideas. You rock! Pun intended
@@bobbarker5884 thanks my friend i’m happy it helped
Acitone mixed with transmission fluid 50/50 frees most stuck parts soaked with a rag thank you
redwood1957 Thanks for watching my friend I’m in the process of making a new video on modified tile saw flat laps I got one made out of the little yellow tail saw her on the left And I will be making a video on calving something with it soon
did u make an new video using this modified flat lap to make cabs? thanks
I haven’t yet but I did make a new video of a tile saw flat lap about a month ago:) check it out if you ha want already
Hey Dave... I want to convert my tile saw -- but I don't know anything about flat laps. I want to start out by buying a 50-80# disc -- but I'm confused about what is needed. I have a 7" Skil brand wet tile saw -- so I assume I should probably get a 6" lap disk. I really need to know if I can just buy a disc & mount it on the arbor -- or do I need some kind of backing plate? When looking online (jewelsntools) I saw things called "Master Lap" that were cheaper than a diamond disc "Lap Top". I would greatly appreciate any advice you may have -- Thanks, George
geeder definitely you're going to want to buy a 6 inch flat lap just for your 7 inch tile saw, I do not use a Master lap when I use the flat discs on the tile saw, I will be making another video shortly describing the modification just a little bit better I've been having people hitting me up lately telling me that they're confused when I explain how to attach the lapidary Flats
Thanks... that helps a lot! It looks like I need an arbor adaptor b/c the lap discs are mostly 1/2" & the tile saw uses 5/8" -- that seems almost universal.
I love this and have no money and want to get started in messing around with stuff lol.....
I mean....I didn't hear it here
Nathan Jonaitis LOL thank you so much for watching I plan on making a thorough video at all the different things one can do with the towel so I’m not worried about people doing it and it being potentially dangerous since everything is potentially dangerous nowadays LOL people were giving me guff When I first started making the steps videos but now I don’t care so I promise to make a in-depth video on this very soon in the meantime if you have any questions feel free to let me know would be my pleasure to help and thanks again for watching
Ha, I got the same tile saw. I use a sander/polisher as my flat lap.
ElGatoLoco698 sweet ! Shes a sweetie
awesome i have one too>! so cheap and good
So I just want to replace my tile blade with the flat lap disc but keep it in the same position as the tile blade would be or even use the tilt and just polish from the side, what are your thoughts?
that seems to be the same thing that I am doing in this video ,good luck be safe :)
@@lapidarydave ya but do you put the cover back on? Maybe I missed that part? Lol, sorry, I can be a bit of an airhead:-)
machines can very but I would not put the cover back on this machine if I was going to put a flat lap on it
@@lapidarydave ok thank you, btw, I love your disclaimer Lol, and your video
Sorry to bug you again about my a50 but I was wondering what grit and size diamond wheels do I want as well as sanding belts. How many different grits do I want for the hub?
Skin Shrimp Hello there your gonna want to get The largest will you cannot fit on your machine if it’s an 8 inch machine you’re gonna wanna get an 8 inch wheel most people use a 80 grit and a 220 grit hardware then you’re gonna want to get 80 220 400 600 & 1000Great silicon carbide belts to polish on an expandable drum company such as Johnson brothers also sells expandable diamond belts if you want to use diamond on your expandable drum it cost a little bit more but always has better results in my experience I hope this helped feel free to message me anytime with any of your questions it’s my pleasure to answer
@@lapidarydave thank you so much. I see that Johnson bros have 800 and 1200 but not 600 and 1000. What size expandable drum is on the a50?
Thank you so much you are helping me out tremendously.
Keith
@@lapidarydave also would I want nickel plated wheels?
Thanks again
Keith
Skin Shrimp So you definitely want to get 80 grit in 220 grit hard diamond wheels which are the nickel plated wheels
You’re gonna want to get 80 grit 220 grit 400 grit 600 grit 1000 grit and 12,000 grit or higher if you can find it by what you can from Johnson brothers if you can’t find 601,000 I would suggest buying them on eBay or somewhere else 600 grit and 1000 grit or a essential grit for sure
I believe the a50 Machine is a 8 inch machine so you would probably want to get a 8 inch expandable drum
A 6 inch drum will work on a 8 inch machine but a 8 inch wheel will not work on a 6 inch machine so triple check that your machine takes 8 inch wheels
@@lapidarydave I'm ordering from Johnsons Brothers now and was wondering what size belts for the drum that came on my a50. Is it 8x3? Also are cesium oxide belts awesome for obsidian? I have a polishing pad on the side
Brilliant 👍
I’m working on a much better and more in-depth video on tile saw flat laps I will have it done shortly after returning to Taos New Mexico where my studio is around the sixth of this month
I like it!!!!
Thanks so much I plan on making a new video regarding tile saws and lapidary with a few new techniques some better footage of what I was trying to make a point of here and talk a bit about a few lapidary companies that actually encourage tile saws for stone and Gem cutting , these companies even make aftermarket lapidary blades for tile saws!!! the company is MK diamond which is Barranca diamond they make a 7-inch blade which is designed to fit on a 7 inch tile saw but it is made for lapidary and not particularly designed for tile and bricks
Genius! Ty!
My pleasure:) make sure to check out my latest video where I show the tile saw flat lap in action :) if you found the video helpful consider subscribing it really helps
Sounds like the motor in the blue housing needs new bearings.
Lol oh yea it's old busted and crusted but then again it does live outside in the rain and snow it's a beater and pretty much retired to my lapidary equipment graveyard lol
Thanks so much for watching my friend make sure to Subscribe if you haven't already :) it really helps
Does anyone find this spins too fast?
It does spin quite a bit faster than a traditional flat lap but it definitely works for grinding preforming prepolishing and even polishing stones I am making a video on using a tile saw as a flat lap right now it should be out in about a week not all tile saws can be used as tile saws without heavy modifications but alot of 7" tile saws can
Lapidary Dave a little too fast for my opals 🤣
BR West got to take care of them opals :)
Lapidary Dave I know now to check the rpm’s on the motor. In Canada here different brands have different speeds! 👍
Love all your videos!!
BR West they definitely have different rpms
I used this tie saw to flat lap rough stones all day today :)