In 1987 I was 15 years old and walking up that Gigantic hill/roadway to see the Gr8fulDead a top a mountain in Telluride Colorado. Apparently on the way up, my ticket had slipped outta the back pocket of my cut-offs. All of a sudden a hand gently pokes my shoulder as I turn around a gentleman hands me my ticket and informs me it had fallen from my back pocket. That gentleman was Uncle Bobo Bill Graham. True Story
Ha! September 1988 at MSG tour before I went in met older Deadhead who was selling hash. How much I asked; 8 bucks a gram. Ok I'll take 3 and gave him $30 and quickly walked toward the doors. I hear the guy yelling hey wait up!! wait up!!! Kinda scared since I was 16 first shows he catches up to me and says hey bro here's you $6 change and hands me the money !!!
Graham really was a great guy, after many years of kinda disliking him, I changed my opinion. Talked to him many times at shows, and he did care about the kids that came to the shows. I was so sad to hear of his death in a 'copter crash. Went to the memorial free show in GG Park with about a half-million other mourner-celebrants. Bill Graham, Jerry, Pigpen, Keith, Brent, you're still loved and missed. Thank you for everything you contributed and created.
Loved to hear the kind words from Grace (and Jerry) for the positive aspects of the advent of punk rock. They were encouraging and intelligent comments that showed that both of them were still open minded and not snobs. Also, their subtle, but evident, warnings about the music "business" were great. Reminded me of when Eric Burden was (relatively recently) asked what advice he would give new musicians starting out in the business. He replied; "Have a great lawyer."
+Crimson Wolf - that's a great quote from Eric Burdon. He could have added you need a great manager like Peter Grant for Led Zepellin and David Geffen for CSNY. And a good investigative accountant like Frank Zappa insisted on having.
Back in the day bands ocassionally played in the local park for free. The acid was pure, the joints passed around. People got up and danced however and whatever they felt. People learning to be free and easy an it spread around the world. We didn't need all the stuff that binds us to the wheel if we care for each other.. It was a brief glimpse of a raw possibility for future generations to refine and employ.
@@jacksprat3009 Fell off my skateboard a little over a year ago. Broke my first pair of bi-focals . Got back on it in week 3 or so. No traffic-no cars. Worked up quite a sweat. So Jack be nimble. HA . Only been doin' the steel wheel thing since '55. Who is J.Harper. Free and easy But don't stop 5he music Don't stop the show. And hope all of yours and you are fine! Forgot to compliment you on your well turned phrase . Employ and refine. I'm anti-socialing quite well. Better than I 5hought. Irregardless of distance.
@@bobjones9600 - Steel wheel boards. You must be familiar with the term "Ho Dad" I have found social distancing with some home grown can be a good time to turn on, tune in and have a beer. Cheers!
None of you realize Bill Graham's contribution to getting these folks on stage, on time, the first time and giving an organized, interesting if not theatrical presentation in a larger hall for the first time in rock history. No one did it before him starting in 1965. And then he took it back to NY and did it via the Fillmore East there. Otis Redding, Chuck Berry, all the black R&B guys who couldn't play in Northern US clubs Bill went and personally booked them to SF not even knowing who they were or what they played. He was a salsa music and also a theater lover who slaved in the Catskill Borscht Belt for famous Jewish comedians in hotels in the 50s running card games after hours and learning the ropes. He came to this country as a malnourished orphan from Germany, a Russian/Polish Jew who's mother had perished there but stayed so she could smuggle him out. He hated drugs and fathered these bands often paying them more than he'd booked them so they would return and could catch up on their expenses. Never forget the mighty Bill Graham. Without him many acts would not have gotten national exposure in his star of the art halls where they recorded live: Allman Brothers with Duane, Mike Bloomfield and the Butterfield Blues band, Johnny Winter, Laura Nyro, Al Kooper's original BST, etc. 1000s went to his funeral when his helicopter crashed...1991.
Sorry I offended you so deeply. That was not my intention. Don't know how I came across as self absorbed when I was singing Graham's praises. I had just finished his biography which is not Wiki and I was moved by his life story. You have a better day and God bless your sweet heart.
Sam Adams You don't have to be rude with that "None of you realize" bullshit. I stopped reading from there. How dare you insult us with your arrogant attitude. Anyone who is plugged in to the San Francisco music scene and New York's Fillmore East and is at least 65 years old knows of Bill Graham and his style of promoting. And frankly, the logistical aspect of his job isn't even what he brought to BGP concerts. He was a stickler for showing up on time and being prepared. He took a personal interest in his artists, his employees and his patrons. He cared about people. I know because he was my boss in the 70's and 80's. At work he was all business. Away from work there wasn't a finer and more devoted friend than Bill. We were all family. When he left us, so did the family. Don't ever start a post with such a untrue and insulting sentence. Those who were part of the era realize. Those who weren't don't give a shit.
This was 19 years after the Dead started in 1965. They still had 11 years to go. And now in 2023, 39 years later, the Dead’s music is still as popular as ever.
Grace said it best about Bill - "He's one of us, and one of them". And Bill said it best about Jerry & crew "they may not be the best at what they do, but they are the only ones who do it."
All three of them were long time San Franciscans and still living in the Bay Area in 1984. It's not odd at all that when a local TV station invited them on for an extended segment, they would come.
I worked with Bill Kurtis many years ago. He is a fine individual. It was very cool to see this interview. Thanks to ThePooneil. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Kurtis
I miss the feeling of child like wonder at the simple things we take for granted. It comes back when I plant something in my garden. When it starts growing out of the ground - I am still like "Far out! A miracle just happened."
I've been at concerts where Bill Graham introduced the performers. Do you know about the Tower of Power joke? The "San Francisco sound" is sort of like London meeting Aztec meeting Shanghai. Energized with love and youth.
I really opened my ears for this, because I really needed to hear what these people thought; because I grew up with these folks. In the end, I realized that Grace was a sellout for a buck a long time ago, Jerry is missed by millions for a great many reasons, and smart businessmen and promoters like Bill don't exist anymore; because the passion and emotion is gone in their profession. The music industry caved in to the immortal temptation of cash; more, and more, and more of it. Even the GD's 50th had overtones of something that never existed when Jerry was alive. Call it just a feeling; but it used to be about the music, the art, creating something extraordinary, and sharing it with anyone willing to enjoy the experience. But now, the fifty year golden road somehow feels tarnished and soiled with that all-too-familiar stench of greed and opportunism, not unlike another "Rolling Stones Reunion Tour". I think I would have enjoyed myself more if I got tickets to Dark Star Orchestra or Phil Lesh & Friends at the Beacon Theatre; or heard Jorma and Jack do an acoustic gig at some backwater Ohio roadhouse. One thing is for certain; Jerry Garcia's recordings, whether with the Grateful Dead, or hundreds of other groups of musicians; and the recordings of Jorma Kaukonen & Jack Cassidy with Hot Tuna, will outlast my great grandchildren, and it's doubtful anyone will remember the inconsequential subject of this interview; or Bob Weir...............yeah, I know.......low blow. But like Grace, he could never accept the fact that he was an important side man; the spice to the main course, the second banana. He knew on August 9th, 1995, that the Grateful Dead was in fact dead; but they just couldn't pass up the cash, could they?
+Whiskey River (Doc) you need to see "The Other One", the Weir documentary, I believe you have completely hopped the track, vis a vis how Weir accepted ( or rather just 'was') his part in the band- fact is, Jerry continually urged Weir to step up in the late 60's- early 70's, and he did beautifully...
In her day, Grace was magnificent (I still get chills down my spine listening to "Greasy Heart" from "Crown of Creation") -- the money-hunger and the booze, though, didn't do well by her as the '70s progressed. Also, Garcia did have some serious (if unfortunately never fully developed) chops as a painter/visual artist; her attempts in that direction were -- shall we say -- less than stellar.
Jerry did want Bob to step up, as he should, as he did but Weir could never bring what Jerry brought. Most of the magic was gone when Jerry died. I went to the Fare Thee Well concerts, and they were a shell of what they used to be. Though, in my mind, they were still special. A gimmick, maybe, but a needed reunion. Though, I agree with you about the Dark Star Orchestra ect. The magic could be found in other forms. Maybe so not as great as Jerry's, but yet still there. We should all apreciate these manefestations when they happen.
Whoa. Bill and Jerry are right on the nose talking about today’s music. People just keep getting more and more money for repetitive acts or trademark sounds. That’s why everyone sounds the same now, the same song on 4 different radio stations at the same time, it’s overload on the “new trend”.
When the tragic news of Kobe Bryant hit 1 week ago today the 1st thing I thought of was Bill Graham. 2nd was Stevie Ray Vaughn. All 3 tragically lost their lives in helicopter crashes. R.I.P. to our fallen brothers & sisters
Jerry and Bill have very good points. So does Grace. i like change and new creativity in music as Grace stated but the art and substance must remain or instead of getting new exciting fresh music you have too much dependence on material element instead of the much more important human element in talent creativity. You take the special new unique exciting "life" or "spirit" (soul,whatever) away from the new creativity in music. It's like throwing paint at paper without drawing anything. It has no life,beauty,shape,symbol,form or language to the new creative expressed art form.
Love that guy with the grey beard! This Friday we're going to see a Dead cover band called Dark Star Orchestra. I'll be wearing my shirt with his face on it that reads, "I may be old but I got to see Jerry."
@@stevennovakovich2525 These are still the days if you want them to be. It's a New Day. Tomorrow I will be 70 and I started taking professional voice lessons. I am not sure where it will lead. I always enjoyed singing for people. Life and disability got in the way in my late 20s. I don't expect you will see me on national tour. I enjoy it like I enjoy being a Certified Professional Dog Trainer, so I will work hard at it. I have "discovered" the Dutch music scene. They are doing interesting things. Check out Anouk, Kensington, Glennis Grace, Bløff, De Djik, Candy Dulfer and Miss Montreal. Every Summer the Netherlands has Pink Pop, an outdoor Woodstock like music festival. As everything the Dutch do, it is better organized. The same Dutch family has been hosting it for decades. So, some of the Dutch bands sing in Dutch. I am learning to speak Dutch. But, there are plenty of bands performing in English.
lol "dont mention it". great answers. I was a 9 year old kid at that jackson tour and i can say it was worth it. My Dad prob didnt like it musically but I still remember. 7 years later i was seeing the dead though. A little bit different.
No longer agree w/ Grace about synths -- at the beginning they were new and exciting ("Wow -- we can do some really far-out, weird shit with this!") -- but after a while they simply began to sound fake and robotic, and with very few exceptions I think they still do. Nothing like inspired human artistry; a drum is not a metronome, it's not just a "beat," it's the heartbeat of the human soul. Y'can't synthesize that.
Have you seen the Floyd documentary about when they played in Pompeii? They talk about experimenting with synthesizers and I think they pulled it off pretty well. It doesn't work for every band though and I'm not a fan of it most times either. At least it's not Auto tune.
Synths have their place, don't get me wrong. But to me, once we get past the self-consciously "experimental" or "novelty" concept (or maybe a particular kind of "art music" like electronica, or a lot of what Floyd used to do), there's nothing like good old human skill and the sensual charge of physical human bodies interacting (via breath, skin, etc.) with physical objects, most of which have evolved from instruments that were originally made from organic material. An entire musical genre built on what used to be considered "novelty" sounds seems to me like an entire big-band repertoire consisting solely of Spike Jones sound effects, or an entire classical music canon consisting of nothing but PDQ Bach antics. In other words, artifice and "novelty" have their place, but it bothers me deeply to see them become the whole deal. (I still maintain, as Duke Ellington said, that "the drum is a woman" -- I'm not about to push her to the curb for a robot or an android!)
@Max Reichert Jerry’s appearance as you have described it had nothing to do with addiction. He was trying to show nationwide TV viewers that he was informal and casual.
Sending a boat load of money off to a distant land and being subject to a lottery to get concert tickets. Hmm, where did I recently experience such a thing....? Ahh yes, Uncle Jer's ghost won't be happy about this...
f4vre01 Could not agree more.....it was quite obvious they hired an amateur named Peter Shapiro for GD50. Bill would of put a lot more thought in how the fans are being treated
f4vre01 Ha! I was thinking the same thing. But I also think he's rolled over so many times his DIZZY! You know I get the Dick's Pick's and boxed sets. But the merchandising is out of control. I love the Jerry ties but he's been dead for 20 years. Is he sending psychic messages to who was it Weir's sister? The worst was a plain black T-shirt for $25!
I didn't realize it was her and I walked up to her and said Hi Im Mike what's your name and she said Im GRACE no airs about her whatsoever. Later people were saying did you know Grace Slick was here tonight? IGNORANCE is DEFINITELY BLISS !!
By 1984 Grace Slick's once magnificent voice was a a faint shadow of itself. For that matter, there was very little, if any, magnificence left by 1974. She peaked in 1967 with "Somebody to Love", which Jerry Garcia himself re-arranged for the "Surrealistic Pillow" album. (Even the name "Surrealistic Pillow", by the way, was Jerry's idea.)
I do not agree with Mr Wells ... and comparing Grace with Jerry is unnecessary, as they both respected the other's musicianship. I saw Grace with the Jefferson Airplane in their 1989 reunion concert at Poplar Creek Il and she was still very much magnificent in her performance. Her voice had changed but it was as emotive and powerful as ever. Jerry did continue to make the same music, Grace was more innovative in what she wanted to express. Both were true to themselves in their artistry and what they wanted to do at the time.
Yes slick sang well but this does not change in any way the fact that she was an extemely minor talent as compared to Jerry. Fan of both but please get real.
i can't get over this taping. none of these are early morning people. the skateboard punks all were changing into tatooed skinheads down in the haight..who would have thought, bill would have died first (with stevie ray vaugn and pilot,) before 1990. grace is still around as far as i know. my favorite female vocalist of all time. it is unfortunate that on my seventeenth birthday, i didn't want tickets to moscone center for the starship, because of the 29.95 tickets. i used my weekend jpb money for a quarter ounce of pot, two six packs of tuborg gold and three or four packs of marlboro lights. and played blows against the empire as loud as it goes. you could still sneak into the dead..
Oh, my God, this is so great! 😂 Seeing Grace and Jer sitting next to each other in 1984. Now that is hysterical. Grace is doing the eighties Full Force. Jer looks like a Bowery bum they grabbed and gave a quick bath. 🤣 I cannot stop laughing.
no mention of the 2 greatest psychedelic guitarist and the best blues guitarist Mike Bloomfield & Cippolina was the king of acid rock ! and Grace you're wrong ! they don't make em like that anymore
I remember the days we used to mail off to the PO box that was on the SkullF*ck album. "Dead Freaks Unite! Hello. How are you? Who are you? Where are you? Box 1074 San Rafael" or whatever the box number was. We mailed letters and money off to that address before the tours to get our tickets. It worked out well. I dont recall losing money or tickets although given the numbers we surely must have had some. I remember using Money Orders. Maybe personal checks? I wonder I wonder how JG would feel about the mail order of the Dead tour(s) last year. The other interesting thing in this video is Grace and Bill leaning away from Jerry. I realize they are seated very closely and this is probably uncomfortable, but cannot help wonder if Jer was smelling ripe that day. This was the beginning of his descent. By '85 he had ballooned up, staring out at the floor most of the time.
Yeah, that's how I joined the original DeadHeads . . . and the really great thing about it -- through their newsletter, I found out about Ken Kesey's literary journal "Spit In the Ocean," to which I also immediately subscribed and which gave me great pleasure (and elucidation) over the next several years (incl. an entire issue dedicated to memories of Cassady) . . .
It's funny. Sending money to GDTS was pretty much the same thing that they're talking about with the Jacksons. It was more or less a lottery. They sent you your money order back if you didn't get tickets. So, there's no small measure of hypocrisy here... but when you're great, you're allowed to contradict yourself. It's fine. Love these three.
Great contrast between Jerry and Grace, the latter who had clearly embraced the 1980s pop culture and Jerry remained with his dark t-shirt, long hair, and beard. I think we know where those two were headed--Jerry for great illness followed by an extraordinary refound desire to live and play music well, and Grace Slick destined to extraordinary weight gain (Jerry as well--not meant as an insult) and not a whole lot of good song writing as far as I am concerned. Thanks for posting/sharing.
Jerry went on to also be in the biggest touring band of the late 80's and early 90's and one of the most celebrated and iconic musicians of our time. The 3 day stadium reunion shows coming up this July of 2015 for Grateful Dead members and trey from Phish are beyond sold out, for a good reason. People like genuine. Grace went on to obscurity as did Jefferson Starship in their attempt to stay relevant and produce music for the masses and follow trends. I Love her but that's the path she was on unlike Jerry and Bill. But I think Jerry understood something and so did Bill that Grace wasn't getting in the early 80's. Selling out and giving the masses what they want isn't the way to go. Include the people and give them something genuine and make it accessible. That's the legacy of Bill and Jerry. That's why they just got 350,000 ticket request for the 'Grateful Dead' members reunion shows before the on sale date when they only have 180,000 tickets available.
We are very much on the same page. I also loved jerry Garcia band where unlike the GD he was the band leader but it still felt like him just needing another outlet beyond the GD to celebrate music rather than emblaze his name into rock history or re-invent something. Again he was always understated humble and just real. The band was the thing for him. I guess that's what made us draw even closer and revere the guy more. Thanks for the discussion.
the only time Grace played with the GD, she was drunk as shit. Listen to the jam before He's Gone archive.org/details/gd72-10-09.sbd.vernon.5249.sbeok.shnf/gd72-10-09d2t03.shn
The boys have you on all points here, Grace. Change is not always a good thing. Punk was garbage, and taking the focus off of the band in order to charge 100 times the price to watch a pyrotechnics display is a poor exchange for having your soul, and mind expanded, through musicians baring their souls to you. There is a reason why the "Classic Rock" era still resonates and will for centuries, and it doesn't require any background or ornamental design other than the music, itself. Having been a part of the great Jefferson Airplane and seeing it become deluted into Starship should have illuminated this point to you quite clearly. Making more money does little to improve your craft. It might buy you bigger houses and faster cars, but you lose yourself riding the tiger....
Daniel Macomber I willl agree that that garbage still has an effect on the garbage that attempts to pass for music in the present day. Posers playing dress up producing sounds that have a half life of about two weeks. At least with mp3's and digitable download sources the land fills won't be overflowing with that crap. As for the Dead Kennedys, just the name of the group itself tells me all that I need to know about their frame of mind. And it's no place that I care to visit.
obbor4 Um . . . Grace is still alive and creating art. You may not have liked some of what she did, however, some of it was very interesting and . . . Good! Well crafted! Welcome To The Wrecking Ball, Software, even Dreams has merit . . . Planet Earth RockandRoll Orchestra! And . . . she's the one who's still alive and creating art, albeit on a canvas. It was an interesting interview and I agree with previous comment that it's amazing these 3 were gathered together at the same time.
Teece Gould Because she's still alive, her attempt to join the kiddies in territory clearly unsuited for a woman of her age, and history, is more valid than if she would have left a great memory instead of an embarrassing attempt to be the old lady wearing the miniskirt and the punk hairdo at the junior high school dance? Certainly, she is free to attempt to try and remain relevent and show up like the crazy cat lady in her interviews, we all have a wacky old aunt like this somewhere. They did a great movie about a similar character called 'Sunset Boulevard'. She'd be the one telling Mr. Demille that she's ready for her close up. Jerry and the boys never embarrased themselves, nor did they see their audience turn it's back and shake their heads sadly thinking about how cool that they used to be.
obbor4 I happen to disagree. She's not as shallow and superficial as the person you paint in your scathing commentary. While I would never argue that "We Built This City" is commercial garbage, I've never been under contract of record company to produce a Top 40 hit.(I bet it earned them a ton of $$) Even in your commentary you talk down to me as if I don't know who Gloria Swanson was. Your analogy is an off putting attempt to insult. You're obviously a Dead Head who feels betrayed by the direction of the J.A. turned J.S. Oh well. I like Grace Slick, Paul Kantner, Marty, Jorma, Jack . . . Papa John . . . Craig . . . Pete Sears . . . the guy from Quicksilver Messenger, etc. . . and I really liked Jerry Garcia. However, unlike you I'm not going to waste time voicing my detailed criticisms of the Grateful Dead regardless of how boring their music is. . .or you are.
obbor4 . . . Nor did she become a heroin addict and die. However, I love listening to what she has to say about Jerry. She really loved him as a dear friend and they produced really great music together i.e. Sunfighter, Blows Against the Empire, Baron Von Tollbooth and The Chrome Nun, etc.
Grace was a lot more open minded than than most of her peers. She seemed to accept the change in cultural climate and music in general. Garcia never left Woodstock. lol
This was during the period where Garcia would wear the same clothes for days, not bathe, and apparently stank badly. You can see this by the body language of Grace and Graham.
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I apologize to the people who will be offended by my next comment, however it is what it is and I believe it is the truth. Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, and in particular Grace Slick and Jerry Garcia were BETTER than Bob Dylan. Don't take it personally folks.
How did the radical 60s turn into the bland 80s in such a short time? It must of been a minority in the 60s or a lot sold out or probably a mix of both-
@@lastnamefirst4035 Not talking about them particular. Even the Youth of the 80s were castrated, doing Pepsi Cola ads and shit. The Beatles or Stones never did any ads in the 60s! Listen to Bill Hicks and you might get it. The 80s was the decade of greed, which we are sill living in the effects of.
@@Franz19970 cant think of tv commercials by the stones or beatles but they have always had big business/company sponsors on tours. Same thing. Thats how theyve made mega $s plus charging 4-5 hundred dollar to $1,000 + for concert tickets. They are some of the top "sell outs" of all time. They are not rich bc of generosity and good looks
In 1987 I was 15 years old and walking up that Gigantic hill/roadway to see the Gr8fulDead a top a mountain in Telluride Colorado. Apparently on the way up, my ticket had slipped outta the back pocket of my cut-offs. All of a sudden a hand gently pokes my shoulder as I turn around a gentleman hands me my ticket and informs me it had fallen from my back pocket. That gentleman was Uncle Bobo Bill Graham. True Story
Nice post. Thanks. I felt like I was there.
Wow! That’s an incredible moment for sure!
Ha! September 1988 at MSG tour before I went in met older Deadhead who was selling hash. How much I asked; 8 bucks a gram. Ok I'll take 3 and gave him $30 and quickly walked toward the doors. I hear the guy yelling hey wait up!! wait up!!! Kinda scared since I was 16 first shows he catches up to me and says hey bro here's you $6 change and hands me the money !!!
Being Bill Graham Im surprised he didn't charge you again 😃
Thank you
Great to see Jerry chuckling at the suit and saying sharp and down-to-Earth things. He never changed, never sold out, always saw the weirdness.
Graham really was a great guy, after many years of kinda disliking him, I changed my opinion. Talked to him many times at shows, and he did care about the kids that came to the shows. I was so sad to hear of his death in a 'copter crash. Went to the memorial free show in GG Park with about a half-million other mourner-celebrants. Bill Graham, Jerry, Pigpen, Keith, Brent, you're still loved and missed. Thank you for everything you contributed and created.
Loved to hear the kind words from Grace (and Jerry) for the positive aspects of the advent of punk rock. They were encouraging and intelligent comments that showed that both of them were still open minded and not snobs. Also, their subtle, but evident, warnings about the music "business" were great. Reminded me of when Eric Burden was (relatively recently) asked what advice he would give new musicians starting out in the business. He replied; "Have a great lawyer."
+Crimson Wolf - that's a great quote from Eric Burdon. He could have added you need a great manager like Peter Grant for Led Zepellin and David Geffen for CSNY. And a good investigative accountant like Frank Zappa insisted on having.
Back in the day bands ocassionally played in the local park for free. The acid was pure, the joints passed around. People got up and danced however and whatever they felt. People learning to be free and easy an it spread around the world. We didn't need all the stuff that binds us to the wheel if we care for each other.. It was a brief glimpse of a raw possibility for future generations to refine and employ.
Little jack sprat
Still free and easy. How R you doin" Bob?
@@jacksprat3009 Fell off my skateboard a little over a year ago. Broke my first pair of bi-focals .
Got back on it in week 3 or so. No traffic-no cars. Worked up quite a sweat.
So Jack be nimble. HA .
Only been doin' the steel wheel thing since '55.
Who is J.Harper.
Free and easy
But don't stop 5he music
Don't stop the show.
And hope all of yours and you are fine!
Forgot to compliment you on your well turned phrase .
Employ and refine.
I'm anti-socialing quite well. Better than I 5hought. Irregardless of distance.
@@bobjones9600 - Steel wheel boards. You must be familiar with the term "Ho Dad" I have found social distancing with some home grown can be a good time to turn on, tune in and have a beer. Cheers!
@@jacksprat3009 Dude
Beat of
Bottoms up
Cheerio
And speaking of breakfast
Caffeine
"Music is always something that you have when everything else goes out the window." Wise words, Grace. Thank you for posting this @ThePoonel.
Jesus Grace is soooo 80s here. Jerry just looks like Jerry...timeless.
Thats the 80s for ya lol
It was the 80s. U expect her to look like an old hippie?
Now that she's in her late 60s, Grace hates the way she looked then. Having been a Department Store Model, Grace always has been on trend.
@@briankocheraabcdt4628 Grace is 81
@Arian Ethan no, nobody cares
Great to hear what they were saying in 1984, interesting stuff, many thanks!
None of you realize Bill Graham's contribution to getting these folks on stage, on time, the first time and giving an organized, interesting if not theatrical presentation in a larger hall for the first time in rock history. No one did it before him starting in 1965. And then he took it back to NY and did it via the Fillmore East there. Otis Redding, Chuck Berry, all the black R&B guys who couldn't play in Northern US clubs Bill went and personally booked them to SF not even knowing who they were or what they played. He was a salsa music and also a theater lover who slaved in the Catskill Borscht Belt for famous Jewish comedians in hotels in the 50s running card games after hours and learning the ropes. He came to this country as a malnourished orphan from Germany, a Russian/Polish Jew who's mother had perished there but stayed so she could smuggle him out. He hated drugs and fathered these bands often paying them more than he'd booked them so they would return and could catch up on their expenses. Never forget the mighty Bill Graham. Without him many acts would not have gotten national exposure in his star of the art halls where they recorded live: Allman Brothers with Duane, Mike Bloomfield and the Butterfield Blues band, Johnny Winter, Laura Nyro, Al Kooper's original BST, etc. 1000s went to his funeral when his helicopter crashed...1991.
Sorry I offended you so deeply. That was not my intention. Don't know how I came across as self absorbed when I was singing Graham's praises. I had just finished his biography which is not Wiki and I was moved by his life story. You have a better day and God bless your sweet heart.
I practically lived at the Fillmore East. Thank God that I got to live in the time of Bill Graham..Sometimes I think I should write a book..
please do, just write.. see where it goes
But I hear he was a dick.
Sam Adams You don't have to be rude with that "None of you realize" bullshit. I stopped reading from there. How dare you insult us with your arrogant attitude. Anyone who is plugged in to the San Francisco music scene and New York's Fillmore East and is at least 65 years old knows of Bill Graham and his style of promoting. And frankly, the logistical aspect of his job isn't even what he brought to BGP concerts. He was a stickler for showing up on time and being prepared. He took a personal interest in his artists, his employees and his patrons. He cared about people. I know because he was my boss in the 70's and 80's. At work he was all business. Away from work there wasn't a finer and more devoted friend than Bill. We were all family.
When he left us, so did the family. Don't ever start a post with such a untrue and insulting sentence. Those who were part of the era realize. Those who weren't don't give a shit.
This was 19 years after the Dead started in 1965. They still had 11 years to go.
And now in 2023, 39 years later, the Dead’s music is still as popular as ever.
Grace said it best about Bill - "He's one of us, and one of them". And Bill said it best about Jerry & crew "they may not be the best at what they do, but they are the only ones who do it."
Jerry and crew were the the ONLY ones who did what they did.
The only ones and the best.
In retrospect I cannot believe the three made themselves available at the same time.
Yea unusual but I guess they respected Bill Kurtis as an interviewer, among other reasons.
All three of them were long time San Franciscans and still living in the Bay Area in 1984. It's not odd at all that when a local TV station invited them on for an extended segment, they would come.
I can't believe Jerry was up so early. Must have been up all night?
@@davenelson9505 he did enjoy his "cat naps" , especially around 84 lol. Miss yer Face Jerry g.
Billy Graham was awesome in Bugsy movie
Jerry was always Jerry. No matter the decade.
I may never get over that opening image of Grace...
I worked with Bill Kurtis many years ago. He is a fine individual. It was very cool to see this interview. Thanks to ThePooneil.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Kurtis
Holy cow...Bill Kurtis from the History channel!!
Can't miss the voice.
he's on NPR on the weekends with 'Wait Don't Tell Me!' Great voice for both television and radio.
Grace Slick was the sexiest singer of the 60's/70's.
Great interview but Graham was amazingly short - thanks for posting!
Bill Kurtis! This was before my time in SF. Interesting. Watched him for so long on crime TV shows. Thanks, bearswin1985 for the info.
Them 3 built that city (San Francisco) on rock n roll lol. RIP AND MISS YOU jer bear and bill
Grace hates that song!
Bill Kurtis is so young, this is great, thanks for posting ThePooneil :)
Jerry..You are forever
Sweet friendly nudge that Jerry and Bill exchange!
The only thing Good about the good ole days is we were young!!!! It goes by to fast.
I miss the feeling of child like wonder at the simple things we take for granted. It comes back when I plant something in my garden. When it starts growing out of the ground - I am still like "Far out! A miracle just happened."
Jerry gone, Bill gone, Grace still choogalin on.
john g sigh.
choogalin
@@bobjones9600 I haven't heard that word in a real long time.
In 2019, they asked Grace what she thought about the year as it was 50 years after Woodstock. She said, "sandwiches have gotten too big."
Sounds like grace 😂
I like the comment about Bills daughter driving a long way to the Dead concerts :)
Bill Kurtis was a real pro.
I didn't notice if they named the host, but by the end, after listening to that voice, I figured out it was him.
Grace Slick, Jerry Garcia and Bill Graham partied all night and went to an early morning interview.
@logicalpolice Prove it.
I've been at concerts where Bill Graham introduced the performers. Do you know about the Tower of Power joke? The "San Francisco sound" is sort of like London meeting Aztec meeting Shanghai. Energized with love and youth.
Please tell me the Tower of Power joke, even if it has been 5 years since you left your comment !
I really opened my ears for this, because I really needed to hear what these people thought; because I grew up with these folks. In the end, I realized that Grace was a sellout for a buck a long time ago, Jerry is missed by millions for a great many reasons, and smart businessmen and promoters like Bill don't exist anymore; because the passion and emotion is gone in their profession. The music industry caved in to the immortal temptation of cash; more, and more, and more of it. Even the GD's 50th had overtones of something that never existed when Jerry was alive. Call it just a feeling; but it used to be about the music, the art, creating something extraordinary, and sharing it with anyone willing to enjoy the experience. But now, the fifty year golden road somehow feels tarnished and soiled with that all-too-familiar stench of greed and opportunism, not unlike another "Rolling Stones Reunion Tour". I think I would have enjoyed myself more if I got tickets to Dark Star Orchestra or Phil Lesh & Friends at the Beacon Theatre; or heard Jorma and Jack do an acoustic gig at some backwater Ohio roadhouse. One thing is for certain; Jerry Garcia's recordings, whether with the Grateful Dead, or hundreds of other groups of musicians; and the recordings of Jorma Kaukonen & Jack Cassidy with Hot Tuna, will outlast my great grandchildren, and it's doubtful anyone will remember the inconsequential subject of this interview; or Bob Weir...............yeah, I know.......low blow. But like Grace, he could never accept the fact that he was an important side man; the spice to the main course, the second banana. He knew on August 9th, 1995, that the Grateful Dead was in fact dead; but they just couldn't pass up the cash, could they?
+Whiskey River (Doc) you need to see "The Other One", the Weir documentary, I believe you have completely hopped the track, vis a vis how Weir accepted ( or rather just 'was') his part in the band- fact is, Jerry continually urged Weir to step up in the late 60's- early 70's, and he did beautifully...
In her day, Grace was magnificent (I still get chills down my spine listening to "Greasy Heart" from "Crown of Creation") -- the money-hunger and the booze, though, didn't do well by her as the '70s progressed. Also, Garcia did have some serious (if unfortunately never fully developed) chops as a painter/visual artist; her attempts in that direction were -- shall we say -- less than stellar.
Jerry did want Bob to step up, as he should, as he did but Weir could never bring what Jerry brought. Most of the magic was gone when Jerry died. I went to the Fare Thee Well concerts, and they were a shell of what they used to be. Though, in my mind, they were still special. A gimmick, maybe, but a needed reunion. Though, I agree with you about the Dark Star Orchestra ect. The magic could be found in other forms. Maybe so not as great as Jerry's, but yet still there. We should all apreciate these manefestations when they happen.
Thank you for mentioning Hot Tuna
@@jazzmanchgo however, that being said according to grace she makes a helluva lot of $$ on her paintings
Whoa. Bill and Jerry are right on the nose talking about today’s music. People just keep getting more and more money for repetitive acts or trademark sounds. That’s why everyone sounds the same now, the same song on 4 different radio stations at the same time, it’s overload on the “new trend”.
Yeah. I too thought their foresight was pretty impressive. All three of them are/were very smart and able to see the game at a higher level.
@@SitlerHQ i dont think any of them. thought they were of higher conciousness. Smart, yes
Grace is so pretty. She never looks bad.
That 80's hair and makeup did no woman any favors.
I only got to see Jefferson Starship only once in 1984 Grace was the best singer out there. She retired far too early.
When the tragic news of Kobe Bryant hit 1 week ago today the 1st thing I thought of was Bill Graham. 2nd was Stevie Ray Vaughn. All 3 tragically lost their lives in helicopter crashes. R.I.P. to our fallen brothers & sisters
@reality check umm kobe wasnt the only to die on that helicopter, this what makes it even more relatable tragic wise
Jerry and Bill have very good points. So does Grace. i like change and new creativity in music as Grace stated but the art and substance must remain or instead of getting new exciting fresh music you have too much dependence on material element instead of the much more important human element in talent creativity. You take the special new unique exciting "life" or "spirit" (soul,whatever) away from the new creativity in music. It's like throwing paint at paper without drawing anything. It has no life,beauty,shape,symbol,form or language to the new creative expressed art form.
I enjoyed that
Jerry is such a brilliant man
2:23 I died laughing at what Bill said lol what a great moment.
Love that guy with the grey beard! This Friday we're going to see a Dead cover band called Dark Star Orchestra. I'll be wearing my shirt with his face on it that reads, "I may be old but I got to see Jerry."
The last statement to Jerry was very telling as to how he was treated in the interview.
I think that is Bill Curtis who was the interview, him and Grace are the only two still alive.
The Observer yep......heard him on npr this weekend!
Jerry lives forever man
Bill Kurtis Always recognize the voice
I"d like to see a reaction video or something, of a 1960s musician voicing opinions on trap music like migos or gucci mane or something.
Gone are the days...
Wolf Sings :(
But these *are* the days for young people now. We all have our time and we move on (hopefully).
@@stevennovakovich2525 These are still the days if you want them to be. It's a New Day. Tomorrow I will be 70 and I started taking professional voice lessons. I am not sure where it will lead. I always enjoyed singing for people. Life and disability got in the way in my late 20s. I don't expect you will see me on national tour. I enjoy it like I enjoy being a Certified Professional Dog Trainer, so I will work hard at it.
I have "discovered" the Dutch music scene. They are doing interesting things. Check out Anouk, Kensington, Glennis Grace, Bløff, De Djik, Candy Dulfer and Miss Montreal.
Every Summer the Netherlands has Pink Pop, an outdoor Woodstock like music festival. As everything the Dutch do, it is better organized. The same Dutch family has been hosting it for decades. So, some of the Dutch bands sing in Dutch. I am learning to speak Dutch. But, there are plenty of bands performing in English.
I just cant get the word...murder out of my head when i hear Bill's voice. lol
What the fuck does that even mean??
Bill Kurtis used to be on a show on A&E about cold case files or something like that and he always said....."murder" many times in the show.
Bill Graham or Kurtis?
Don’t murder me 🎵🎶
Bill Kurtis's voice 😍
lol "dont mention it". great answers. I was a 9 year old kid at that jackson tour and i can say it was worth it. My Dad prob didnt like it musically but I still remember. 7 years later i was seeing the dead though. A little bit different.
What was it like? Not fair I was being born so late...
Is that Bill Curtis from American Justice and Cold Case Files?
Awesome opportunity to have this interview. Moments of boring stuff though.
getting these 3 folks out of bed this early,,,,, wow how did that happen? that's the real story here,
Wow I had no idea Carl Sagan was affiliated with the Grateful Dead. That is pretty cool!
So if Grace was open minded about punk, she could've probably dug Dead Kennedys then lol
Im sure grace had never heard DK. I doubt she really knew punk rock. Make her listen to Holiday In Cambodia lol. She was always a tad outta touch
No longer agree w/ Grace about synths -- at the beginning they were new and exciting ("Wow -- we can do some really far-out, weird shit with this!") -- but after a while they simply began to sound fake and robotic, and with very few exceptions I think they still do. Nothing like inspired human artistry; a drum is not a metronome, it's not just a "beat," it's the heartbeat of the human soul. Y'can't synthesize that.
Have you seen the Floyd documentary about when they played in Pompeii? They talk about experimenting with synthesizers and I think they pulled it off pretty well. It doesn't work for every band though and I'm not a fan of it most times either. At least it's not Auto tune.
Synths have their place, don't get me wrong. But to me, once we get past the self-consciously "experimental" or "novelty" concept (or maybe a particular kind of "art music" like electronica, or a lot of what Floyd used to do), there's nothing like good old human skill and the sensual charge of physical human bodies interacting (via breath, skin, etc.) with physical objects, most of which have evolved from instruments that were originally made from organic material. An entire musical genre built on what used to be considered "novelty" sounds seems to me like an entire big-band repertoire consisting solely of Spike Jones sound effects, or an entire classical music canon consisting of nothing but PDQ Bach antics. In other words, artifice and "novelty" have their place, but it bothers me deeply to see them become the whole deal. (I still maintain, as Duke Ellington said, that "the drum is a woman" -- I'm not about to push her to the curb for a robot or an android!)
Love your logo Join!!! I joined 25 years ago. Where'd you download that from? I want one that says "Dont Tread on Me" can find 1 though :/
Ambria the songtress think I just found one on Google images and adjusted it to fit. The Gadsden flag's sentiment rings very true too though.
Ambria the songtress
Somebody to love...
Jerry looks like he has been sleeping in a cardboard box. He's got the latter day Jim Morrison look
@Max Reichert Jerry’s appearance as you have described it had nothing to do with addiction. He was trying to show nationwide TV viewers that he was informal and casual.
Sending a boat load of money off to a distant land and being subject to a lottery to get concert tickets. Hmm, where did I recently experience such a thing....? Ahh yes, Uncle Jer's ghost won't be happy about this...
f4vre01 Could not agree more.....it was quite obvious they hired an amateur named Peter Shapiro for GD50. Bill would of put a lot more thought in how the fans are being treated
f4vre01 Ha! I was thinking the same thing. But I also think he's rolled over so many times his DIZZY! You know I get the Dick's Pick's and boxed sets. But the merchandising is out of control. I love the Jerry ties but he's been dead for 20 years. Is he sending psychic messages to who was it Weir's sister? The worst was a plain black T-shirt for $25!
+f4vre01 Mail order always worked like that for Dead shows....
LowerTheBoom1 since I don't know you i really don't give a fuck what you think.
Wow Noah...whatty a lousy spew of negativity in you. Find peace someday hopefully
These two look like they have a grizzly bear sitting between them, the 'Jear Bear!'
I didn't realize it was her and I walked up to her and said Hi Im Mike what's your name and she said Im GRACE no airs about her whatsoever. Later people were saying did you know Grace Slick was here tonight?
IGNORANCE is DEFINITELY BLISS !!
Garcia was acutely aware that Slick was the most gifted vocalist, and she proved herself more able and versatile than himself.
HA!
By 1984 Grace Slick's once magnificent voice was a a faint shadow of itself. For that matter, there was very little, if any, magnificence left by 1974. She peaked in 1967 with "Somebody to Love", which Jerry Garcia himself re-arranged for the "Surrealistic Pillow" album. (Even the name "Surrealistic Pillow", by the way, was Jerry's idea.)
I do not agree with Mr Wells ... and comparing Grace with Jerry is unnecessary, as they both respected the other's musicianship. I saw Grace with the Jefferson Airplane in their 1989 reunion concert at Poplar Creek Il and she was still very much magnificent in her performance. Her voice had changed but it was as emotive and powerful as ever. Jerry did continue to make the same music, Grace was more innovative in what she wanted to express. Both were true to themselves in their artistry and what they wanted to do at the time.
Yes slick sang well but this does not change in any way the fact that she was an extemely minor talent as compared to Jerry. Fan of both but please get real.
The men on the chess board got up and told Grace to come to this interview.
Grace was always cool. Never changed except for her clothes depending on the decade. And always beautiful. Has sort of a Joan Collins look here 🙏😎💋
i can't get over this taping. none of these are early morning people. the skateboard punks all were changing into tatooed skinheads down in the haight..who would have thought, bill would have died first (with stevie ray vaugn and pilot,) before 1990. grace is still around as far as i know. my favorite female vocalist of all time. it is unfortunate that on my seventeenth birthday, i didn't want tickets to moscone center for the starship, because of the 29.95 tickets. i used my weekend jpb money for a quarter ounce of pot, two six packs of tuborg gold and three or four packs of marlboro lights. and played blows against the empire as loud as it goes. you could still sneak into the dead..
Stevie Ray wasn't in that helicopter. His went down in Wi
Damn you VHS
Oh, my God, this is so great! 😂 Seeing Grace and Jer sitting next to each other in 1984. Now that is hysterical. Grace is doing the eighties Full Force. Jer looks like a Bowery bum they grabbed and gave a quick bath. 🤣 I cannot stop laughing.
Watch the way Grace's eyes open-and then open-every time she blinks.
Early morning cocaine?
her eyes are pinned for sure!
Armadillo!
Jerry is 42 here, Grace 45, and Bill is 53.
Anyone know which SF tv station this is from?
Rip jerry n bill
and they thought pop music was bad then,..btw punk music was a media event
Nothing is worse than Grace's hair.
Deep topics 🍄🌁🍄
no mention of the 2 greatest psychedelic guitarist and the best blues guitarist Mike Bloomfield & Cippolina was the king of acid rock ! and Grace you're wrong ! they don't make em like that anymore
I remember the days we used to mail off to the PO box that was on the SkullF*ck album. "Dead Freaks Unite! Hello. How are you? Who are you? Where are you? Box 1074 San Rafael" or whatever the box number was. We mailed letters and money off to that address before the tours to get our tickets. It worked out well. I dont recall losing money or tickets although given the numbers we surely must have had some. I remember using Money Orders. Maybe personal checks? I wonder
I wonder how JG would feel about the mail order of the Dead tour(s) last year.
The other interesting thing in this video is Grace and Bill leaning away from Jerry. I realize they are seated very closely and this is probably uncomfortable, but cannot help wonder if Jer was smelling ripe that day. This was the beginning of his descent. By '85 he had ballooned up, staring out at the floor most of the time.
Finally someone remembered the Who are you? How are you? Where are you? Them was the day's,bro. Thee omnipotent Grateful Dead !
Yeah, that's how I joined the original DeadHeads . . . and the really great thing about it -- through their newsletter, I found out about Ken Kesey's literary journal "Spit In the Ocean," to which I also immediately subscribed and which gave me great pleasure (and elucidation) over the next several years (incl. an entire issue dedicated to memories of Cassady) . . .
David Whiteis Right on Happy 4th Bro !!!!
oh my god, grace. the 1980s were scary.
It's funny. Sending money to GDTS was pretty much the same thing that they're talking about with the Jacksons. It was more or less a lottery. They sent you your money order back if you didn't get tickets. So, there's no small measure of hypocrisy here... but when you're great, you're allowed to contradict yourself. It's fine. Love these three.
Great contrast between Jerry and Grace, the latter who had clearly embraced the 1980s pop culture and Jerry remained with his dark t-shirt, long hair, and beard. I think we know where those two were headed--Jerry for great illness followed by an extraordinary refound desire to live and play music well, and Grace Slick destined to extraordinary weight gain (Jerry as well--not meant as an insult) and not a whole lot of good song writing as far as I am concerned. Thanks for posting/sharing.
Jerry went on to also be in the biggest touring band of the late 80's and early 90's and one of the most celebrated and iconic musicians of our time. The 3 day stadium reunion shows coming up this July of 2015 for Grateful Dead members and trey from Phish are beyond sold out, for a good reason. People like genuine. Grace went on to obscurity as did Jefferson Starship in their attempt to stay relevant and produce music for the masses and follow trends. I Love her but that's the path she was on unlike Jerry and Bill. But I think Jerry understood something and so did Bill that Grace wasn't getting in the early 80's. Selling out and giving the masses what they want isn't the way to go. Include the people and give them something genuine and make it accessible. That's the legacy of Bill and Jerry. That's why they just got 350,000 ticket request for the 'Grateful Dead' members reunion shows before the on sale date when they only have 180,000 tickets available.
We are very much on the same page. I also loved jerry Garcia band where unlike the GD he was the band leader but it still felt like him just needing another outlet beyond the GD to celebrate music rather than emblaze his name into rock history or re-invent something. Again he was always understated humble and just real. The band was the thing for him. I guess that's what made us draw even closer and revere the guy more. Thanks for the discussion.
She sounds like Lucy Arnaz.
Lol she does. Looks like her too
Yo Bill Graham was tuff
The group is fine, the surroundings are questionable.
the only time Grace played with the GD, she was drunk as shit. Listen to the jam before He's Gone archive.org/details/gd72-10-09.sbd.vernon.5249.sbeok.shnf/gd72-10-09d2t03.shn
The boys have you on all points here, Grace. Change is not always a good thing. Punk was garbage, and taking the focus off of the band in order to charge 100 times the price to watch a pyrotechnics display is a poor exchange for having your soul, and mind expanded, through musicians baring their souls to you. There is a reason why the "Classic Rock" era still resonates and will for centuries, and it doesn't require any background or ornamental design other than the music, itself. Having been a part of the great Jefferson Airplane and seeing it become deluted into Starship should have illuminated this point to you quite clearly. Making more money does little to improve your craft. It might buy you bigger houses and faster cars, but you lose yourself riding the tiger....
Daniel Macomber I willl agree that that garbage still has an effect on the garbage that attempts to pass for music in the present day. Posers playing dress up producing sounds that have a half life of about two weeks. At least with mp3's and digitable download sources the land fills won't be overflowing with that crap. As for the Dead Kennedys, just the name of the group itself tells me all that I need to know about their frame of mind. And it's no place that I care to visit.
obbor4 Um . . . Grace is still alive and creating art. You may not have liked some of what she did, however, some of it was very interesting and . . . Good! Well crafted! Welcome To The Wrecking Ball, Software, even Dreams has merit . . . Planet Earth RockandRoll Orchestra! And . . . she's the one who's still alive and creating art, albeit on a canvas. It was an interesting interview and I agree with previous comment that it's amazing these 3 were gathered together at the same time.
Teece Gould Because she's still alive, her attempt to join the kiddies in territory clearly unsuited for a woman of her age, and history, is more valid than if she would have left a great memory instead of an embarrassing attempt to be the old lady wearing the miniskirt and the punk hairdo at the junior high school dance? Certainly, she is free to attempt to try and remain relevent and show up like the crazy cat lady in her interviews, we all have a wacky old aunt like this somewhere. They did a great movie about a similar character called 'Sunset Boulevard'. She'd be the one telling Mr. Demille that she's ready for her close up. Jerry and the boys never embarrased themselves, nor did they see their audience turn it's back and shake their heads sadly thinking about how cool that they used to be.
obbor4 I happen to disagree. She's not as shallow and superficial as the person you paint in your scathing commentary. While I would never argue that "We Built This City" is commercial garbage, I've never been under contract of record company to produce a Top 40 hit.(I bet it earned them a ton of $$) Even in your commentary you talk down to me as if I don't know who Gloria Swanson was. Your analogy is an off putting attempt to insult. You're obviously a Dead Head who feels betrayed by the direction of the J.A. turned J.S. Oh well. I like Grace Slick, Paul Kantner, Marty, Jorma, Jack . . . Papa John . . . Craig . . . Pete Sears . . . the guy from Quicksilver Messenger, etc. . . and I really liked Jerry Garcia. However, unlike you I'm not going to waste time voicing my detailed criticisms of the Grateful Dead regardless of how boring their music is. . .or you are.
obbor4 . . . Nor did she become a heroin addict and die. However, I love listening to what she has to say about Jerry. She really loved him as a dear friend and they produced really great music together i.e. Sunfighter, Blows Against the Empire, Baron Von Tollbooth and The Chrome Nun, etc.
Grace was a lot more open minded than than most of her peers. She seemed to accept the change in cultural climate and music in general. Garcia never left Woodstock. lol
Not even close.
Good thing
Jerry was open minded, he just thought the punks were poor musicians and he was right.
Grace talked about punk hair and style where jerry talked about their music
Thats not true at all, Jerry was just a different kind of musician.
George Jungle, Watch out for that power tower.
Bill may not have cared for punk rock bc it didn't command the high $ concerts as mainstream rock
The way Grace is sitting it looks like ol' Jer Bear maybe forgot to shower that morning
Yeah I was thinking the same thing
"That morning"? Try "that year." I'd estimate the number of showers he took between 1982 and 1985 could be counted on no more than two hands.
This was during the period where Garcia would wear the same clothes for days, not bathe, and apparently stank badly. You can see this by the body language of Grace and Graham.
Damn he was jonesing that bad smh...
O lol please You weren't there
How do you know?
@@c.a.carlln0287 he doesnt know that. Ive never heard that
They are sitting very close t eachother unlike whst he says in his comment
Could Grace Slicks pupils be more dilated? LOL
No
Too much strong coffee in the morning...
dialated or pinned?
she's grace, she just came from an all night party in the 80s, guess what's passed around.
@@jeepguy220 Grace was supposedly clean and sober for the decade of the 80's.
Oh look it’s Grace Slick right before she became a man
😃 you're right
Yea that’s not cool - Jerry Garcia
The party Grace went to was for Willie Brown, the mayor of San Francisco
Who sold out?
1983 MASTERS OF REALITY LIMITED UNLIMITED I WONDER WHAT SHES DOING TONIGHT WHAT DID SHE DO THAT FOR WHO ARE YOU SONG 2 AUNTIE MAME MOVIES 1958 1974 IRON BUTTERFLY BAND MUMPS ICE CREAM
I apologize to the people who will be offended by my next comment, however it is what it is and I believe it is the truth. Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, and in particular Grace Slick and Jerry Garcia were BETTER than Bob Dylan. Don't take it personally folks.
How did the radical 60s turn into the bland 80s in such a short time? It must of been a minority in the 60s or a lot sold out or probably a mix of both-
They were the youth then. 20 yrs later...you cant figure that out?
@@lastnamefirst4035 Not talking about them particular. Even the Youth of the 80s were castrated, doing Pepsi Cola ads and shit. The Beatles or Stones never did any ads in the 60s! Listen to Bill Hicks and you might get it. The 80s was the decade of greed, which we are sill living in the effects of.
@@Franz19970 cant think of tv commercials by the stones or beatles but they have always had big business/company sponsors on tours. Same thing. Thats how theyve made mega $s plus charging 4-5 hundred dollar to $1,000 + for concert tickets. They are some of the top "sell outs" of all time. They are not rich bc of generosity and good looks
@@lastnamefirst4035 Well said. They are definitely corporate. Lol
The 80s were bland??
Grace Slick is aways hallucinated
Grace had a bad trip.
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Grace wouldn't know punk rock if Jello Biafra hit her w a Dead Kennedy 😀
wow gerry was early 40s here...looked 75
Is it me, or did these prep school slackers, "from the sixties", have WAY to much influence ?
It’s you