Said this in another Embiid-focused video. Joel Embiid has more flagrant fouls than Draymond Green in roughly half the games played. He’s a dirty player. Say what you want about Heat LeBron, Shaqless Kobe, and GSW KD, they weren’t dirty players. Embiid is an injury threat to players who share the court with him, even his own teammates.
He doesn't have the same reputation because he is at least somewhat funny and charismatic and was likeable his first 1-3 years. Dray's flagrants are also blatant strikes and kicks while embiid masks his as unintentional basketball motions.
So him grabbing Mitchell Robinson knee while he's getting a reb ain't dirty or intentional? Dray hits and embiid grabs u in mid air is dangerous no matter who u like and dislike
Joel Embiid is actually the BEST villain because a villain's main role is to make the heroes look good. Embiid is that hyped up villain who loses every time to the heroes.
@@djadondaman17 The media has always hyped him up, even gave him an MVP, building up this villain for the casuals. Embiid has embraced his villain role by being dirtier than Draymond, and foul bait harder than Harden.
Your take at the 6:44 mark is wrong. Joel is 100% off base in his take about Tatum. Embiid has 6 playoff games over his career where he shot below 40% and had 5+ turnovers but his team still won. Jokic, Giannis, Luka, and Tatum COMBINED have 6 such wins. Joel has been bailed out by his team more than any superstar in the NBA. He should NEVER be speaking about a lack of help.
as a knicks fan, watching embiid and the sixers crumble in every way, from him being an ineffective flop merchant, their arena getting overrun by knicks fans, causing the sixers front office to mass purchase tickets, only for that to still not work, to embiid crying and making excuses after every game, was honestly the best 2 weeks of my life😂
@@ricanLegend2003Would not be so sure. I like PG, but him and Embiid have brittle bones at this point.Not to mention both are aging and George will be past his prime within the next 2 years atleast.
Exactly. Had he been merely an amazing and crafty player without much success, he wouldn’t have had that much spotlight on him. It’s his big mouth that gets the attention.
Watching embiid, avoid jokic in Denver for years just to be pathetic against him in the Olympics was a highlight, I'm not going to lie. It took ad and bam, top 15 bigs to stop him and even then they scored, USA and Serbia scored equally when jokic was on the floor and got blown out in mins without him
@@samuelsamano3777To be fair Dirk had a reputation as a choker before winning his ring. Very unlikely for Embiid who drops off way more often in the playoffs to pull it off but still.
Friendly reminder: Every MVP winner in the past 10 years has AT LEAST gone to the conference finals except Joel Embiid. Only Derrick Rose, Steve Nash and Embiid have never been to the Finals out of every MVP winner. (Side note: I'm rooting for Memphis to somehow get to the Finals 😂)
@@LILCHEESE99I mean it’s obvious he just isn’t that dude. Tbh I think he needs to be the 2, or maybe even the 3. The talent is there, but something is wrong with his mental. He seems fragile both mentally and physically and frankly he simply cannot be relied on. His talent is way higher than Ben Simmons, but frankly I don’t think he’s got what it takes to carry a team as the 1st option and win a chip
@@thedman05 'we just need a few more pieces' 'if i go 5-20 we get blown out' he's already admitted that he can't carry a team to victory so i totally agree, he would actually be insane as a 2/3rd option because (imo) i dont think he has the ability to be a strong leader of a team
Also don’t forget in that game 6 where Tatum went 1-14 in the first 3 qtrs, he did something that Embiid couldn’t do by taking over and having 19 in the 4th alone to force Game 7😂😂
Sixers look worse than wizards without embiid. He comes back win 10 straight. Tatum getting outplayed by 2 celtics on team usa. Only reason is brown not there would be 3 celtics
Honestly, yeah Tatum is inconsistent, but I think he is slightly underrated at this point. I don’t think he’s top 5 or anything, but he is definitely slept on for the amount of success he has had in his career. I think we’ll look back in a couple of years and realize this. I also think a main reason for this is due to how we look at the game now. I remember watching the finals and I think Tatum had a really solid defensive performance the whole series. However, a lot of people paid attention to the lack of offensive production and said that he had an objectively bad series. I think he actually played solid, yeah he could’ve done way better, but he played his role really well and he took over when he needed to. I don’t think Tatum will be a top 5 player, but I definitely think he’ll be like a better version of Paul George if that makes sense. Like he can be the man and you can build around him, but you have to do a really great job building around him if that makes sense.
He's really good at everything but never exceptional at anything. His game is as text book "good" as it gets but his game has nothing that pushes him over anyone on the top 5
I think people would like him more if we didn’t have National media trying to push him as the American Superstar. Now they have their sights on Anthony Edwards, so Tatum can be judged in a less reactionary manner. I also think he just doesn’t have that “ it” factor when it comes to the eye test. Even Tim Duncan had a pleasing serenity to his game, and you could FEEL his presence as the pillar for his team. Jayson Tatum does not have that quality to him.
Embiid’s flopping actually HAS ended someone’s career, his own teammate Danny Green. 2022 ECF Game 6, Embiid fell on him during a flop causing a tear in 2 ligaments in his left knee.
bro youtube the clip of him falling on dannys knee and PLEASE TELL ME HOW WAS HE FLOPPING. DUDE TRIED TO PUT UP A LAY UP through two defenders. danny himself said it wasnt embiids fault. i'm so tired of these weird ass narratives.
Embiid isn't a villain, he's more like a Seinfeld character: he doesn't really have any redeeming qualities, and it's funny to watch every situation blow up in his face
Yeah cause they HAVE TO. Are you dumb? Of course Giannis and Jokic gonna have crazy numbers when they play with bums, while Embiid only plays with already locked hall of famers and all nba players.
I don't think it's an "Embiid can't play with different rules" situation. He just looks washed. He's already 30 and with his injury history, I'd believe it too. His prime might already be over.
@@Alex-sj2gq Again, injury history. How many points he scored last season is irrelevant if he enters the postseason hobbled for what, the 5th time in a row? And I did not _assert_ that his prime is over, only entertained the possibility. Most big men decline or at least start to decline around his age.
Jokic has won a trophy. Giannis has won a trophy. Tatum has won a trophy. What is joel embiid talking about, huh? The regular season doesn't matter anymore. You have to get it done in the playoffs, which you never done. You have to blame yourself for not making no eastern conference finals. Or nba finals.
@@impacc4182 The ringless players who are respected are beloved because at least you know they gave it all they had. Charles Barkley was on another level in the early 90s and was dominant in the 1993 Finals. He put up 27 points and 13 rebounds (!) and 5.5 assists as a PF against the Bulls. He had the misfortune of playing the Bulls in MJ’s literal career best finals: 41PPG, along with 8.5 rebounds and 6 assists. That’s what Embiid has never done. He is a player who has left a lot on the table, he hasn’t pushed himself to his absolute best and squeezed every bit of talent he has to at least go down swinging. Say what you want about KD, but in the end, easy road or not, you can’t say that in OKC or since his Warriors days he didn’t give it all he has.
Embiid with all the talent in the world has the worst and the most annoying tendencies you see in a superstar level player. One of the most pathetic things in recent memory was essentially crying, and begging to the national media for the MVP award in 2023 that should’ve gone to Jokic. In the end Joker won the finals MVP and Embiid can’t even get out of the 2nd round.
dude is the dirtiest in the league by far, there was like 7 or 8 clips of him intentionally hurting knicks players IN A SINGLE SERIES. Not to mention his field goal percentage vs Mitch was ASS.
@lorddj9910 I'ma get hate for it but this is precisely why I can't take it seriously when someone says they'd take Embiid over Tatum. I'm not tryna hide it no more, when it comes to the playoffs when it counts yes we get annoyed at JT's inconsistency but we really out here willing to make excuses for a guy that just never showed up in the first place? Say what you will about JT's inconsistency but to be inconsistent means that he first had to show up on multiple occasions, Embiid never has.
@Nick-sr4fe right?? The reason JT gets all this criticism is because he brave enough to take the accountability of when shit goes south in the first place. He knows exactly what's coming when he dawns that cape and bears with it, even having to deal with the people saying he doesn't deserve the cape. Meanwhile, Embiid's team time and time again has had to watch as he actively avoids the task of having to do the same for them. He cowers in fear of the backlash he MIGHT receive before he ever even dawns the cape. He wants the praise, but not the responsibility.
As a Nuggets fan, I hated Kobe a lot cuz he whooped our ass for years. But towards the end of his career, I realized he is a once in a lifetime player. It was terrible to learn of his passing. What pisses me off about Embiid is that he’s constantly being compared to Jokic and delusional fans pick him over Jokic. Embiid’s resume is nowhere near Jokics, and his play style is horrendous. It doesn’t make any sense all the hype Embiid has when he’s not a real winner or team leader.
@@kjjr3270 foul bating is always way harder to watch when it's done by one of the biggest players in the league. And don't act like people don't criticise others for doing it as well. James harden got heaps of shit for it too (and rightfully so it was so fucking boring to watch)
@@RiamuBerru oh yeah, cause Luka or Brunson is a bit smaller he shouldn't get no slack right? Hypocrite. Luka like 6'9 as well, just be honest and say you hate Embiid just existing.
@@kjjr3270fans like you are also a big reason why no one likes embiid anymore. Blind fans. You’re comparing a 7 ft 1 280 pound center to two guards and embiid still flops more. Maybe if he focused on making the shot more than fouling then maybe he’d see a conference finals
This makes the 2024-25 season so pivotal for Joel Embiid: because with the emergence of Tyreese Maxey and getting Paul George, the 76ers actually can make the ECF. With Paul George's years of being an elite player possibly being down to their last few, next year is vital for them. Yes. the Celtics will still be the biggest challenge and the Knicks will be a very close second, the 76ers can be the third or fourth best team in the eastern conference next year because no real basketball fan should ever trust the combined delusion of Doc Rivers and Darvin Ham as coaches.
I used to be a big Embiid fan until I realized the sum of what you said in this video. Instead of Kawhi Stephen A Smith should be referring to Embiid when he says the worst superstar.
12:25 The most ironic shit to hear if youre a Raptors fan since he fell on Scottie on his rookie playoff debut when was on path for a trip dub and injured him lol, and also ironic if youre a fan of other eastern conference teams, even Philly themselves since he fell on Danny too
If you're a raptors fan than you'll also remember in the first round when he took an elbow to the face from Siakam causing an orbital fracture during game 5 while we were up by 30 with 4 mins left. It's crazy almost like weird injuries happen in basketball or something??
@@Timmeh_Timbo except my point is that Embiid hurts people tryna flop for fouls or him being clumsy as fuck all the damn time so him talking about freak accidents is very funny, bc he is the king of giving them too
I will go to my grave saying Jokic is an MVP for 4 straight years. There is no way I will ever acknowledge Embiid as an MVP even if my life depended on it.
Funny how people blame Harden for that 2 years sixers loss when EMBIID THE MVP FIRST OPTION fails to stay HEALTHY, Harden was 33 or 34 trying to upkeep the franchise while the hero is hurt....AGAIN
who else saw the og title "how to become the nba's next villain" it was too dramatic so i think the new title is better. Embiid isnt really a villain either cause hes never been the best player in the world where as bron and kd were during their superteam days
Embiid is overrated I’ve been saying time & time & time again because he never shows up when his team needs him the most. As a Philly Native Born & Raised whenever I come across ppl and I tell them that they be like “Ohhh you’re just a hater or this or that” All I do is laugh because the numbers doesn’t lie. Please don’t get me wrong he’s a good player (WHEN HE’S HEALTHILY) but when you need him those most he’s never there. And now he just sign this new contract, I’ma just sit back sip my tea & eat my popcorn and watch this plans out 🤣🤣🤣
On the "path of least resistance", Embiid declared for one of the greatest Team USAs ever this year that CLEARLY doesn't need him instead of a national team (Cameroon/France) that does because it's an easy gold.
I feel for Embiid, but I feel more for Jahlil Okafor. He was the FIRST "sacrificial lamb" in Sam Hinkie's "Process" that culminated in the Sixers getting Embiid. Being the FIRST overall #1 pick to a franchise that PROUDLY admitted being in perpetual tank mode meant his pro resume, as well as his marketability to other teams, was DOOMED from the jump.
Dude had no business winning that MVP next to guys like Jokic, Luka, Giannis etc. Literally complained his way to the mvp, that in combination with his scheduled 2nd round choke exit every.single.year and his disgusting dirty plays and flops makes him so easy to hate
yes I'm sure he was 2nd in MVP finishes by accident for 4 straight years. Never mentioned how Jokic stole Embiid's MVPs in 2021 and 2024 either, give over
@@kaysheye7784 dude is a glorified stat padder that can't get it done when it actually matters and chokes it year after year for how long now? On top of that he is probably the dirtiest player in the league and has no problem injuring other players while at the same time being an absolute pussy constantly crying to the refs when somebody hits him. There is literally not one positive or redeeming quality about this guy that you can like. Blames everybody else every time, never takes accountability etc.Overrated, weak and soft
Dude i keep saying this, his falls and him playing in blowouts to get his numbers up, is what ruins him. If he didnt flopp that much and played less minutes, he would have lesser numbers but would be ready for playoffs... Instead he avg 36 ppg for like 40 games and most of those are vs non playoff teams... He either plays bad or ducks best teams every year... Whoever is his trainer should tell him, play less minutes, score a bit less , rebound lesa and stop throwing yourself on the floor, it doesnt even work in playoffs and you will win NBA if you stop this BS.
I would take lebron at 50 over prime embiid in the playoffs...and I'm a sixer fan. In a player's league, every legit HOF player needs to make a finals appearance as the team's #1 option.
If Embid acted more serious and not always joking , he might get the benefit of the doubt but the more he trolls , the more hate and scrutiny will come his way. Good player , just not great ..yet
Joel is a bum. I can’t respect a dude that does all that work in the regular season just to flame out and not stay healthy in the postseason. The best ability is availability
@@ricanLegend2003 facts. His +/- in the playoffs is all time great. He was +78 against the Raptors for example - despite Marc Gasol lowkey having him in his pocket at times (only Horford i’ve seen do the same)
No, that means you failed at being feared. You just described a lolcow, lol. A good example of a villain would be KD in GS or LeBron winning in 2012/13.
@@peamut547i think the real issue is his need to be liked. when bron, kobe and kd were hated, they embraced it. when joel gets hate or faces adversity, he deflects it and plays dumb. he’s a villain that wants to be liked by everyone. u can’t have both.
Embiid it's just not one of the best big men in the modern era but also one of the best player. But truthfully majority of the NBA fans knows Jokic deserve that MVP. Too bad it had gotten to sensitive topic carried by almost all the big media. and about Ben Simmons? he just don't have the mentality.
If you look into it more I understand why Ben refused to play for them again embiid choked that hawks game but blamed Ben straight after the game for not taking the dunk look a embiids stats for that game if he had of turned up that dunk at the end wouldn’t even have mattered. Never mind he covered it
@@killiemuckenyou’re stat watching bro. Fr watch that game. When ben didn’t take that dunk the whole atmosphere changed. Wasn’t just Embiid, it was the whole team including bench and coaching staff. Not only did he mess up by not scoring, but he absolutely ruined the mentality of the team. I do agree Embiid didn’t have the best game, but Ben really did sell 🤦🏻♂️ it wasn’t Embiid team back then, it was more Ben’s team and that’s where it really fell apart
@killiemucken I hate Ben but youre right. Embiid blamed his teammates after he and Harden flamed out too. He always points the finger at everybody else.
Lmao I’m not a big fan of embiid but let’s not rewrite history that collapse against ATL was on Ben Simmons for the most part, embiid choked in game 7 as well though
Him not stepping beyond the 2nd round is still the biggest blemish to his name..like TMac was a perennial 1st round loser, but the guy didn't win MVP, had his prime cut short and you could argue that his teams were quite subpar during his best years..but Embiid just cant get it done even with great squads. 😬
T Mac had legit trash teams most of his career and when he didn’t he suffered from back issues or his main stars had their injuries. Their story is not alike at all.
@@bandito241 Never said it was..just saying that they're practically at the same tier as players, but Embiid winning MVP def made the "Playoff Loser" accusations more stronger compare to Mac's
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@@bandito241 Not true at all. He's blown multiple leads in the playoffs. 3-1 in '03, a 2-0 lead in '05, and another 2-0 lead in '07. Of course there were injuries but Tmac is labeled as a perennial first round loser for a reason.
Embiid is not consistent enough for the type of offense the team runs through him. Offense is slow when it runs through him, and he sets trash screens. Olympics are exposing the type of role he needs. He can’t have the highest usage % the way a big like Jokic can do. Jokic has a low vert, but his lateral quickness is great when compared to Embiid.
Flopper Choker Blames his teammates Complains about not having enough help Never had a season where he averaged above 23 without being at least second in the league in free throws Complains when he doesn't get an accolade gifted Betrays his own country out of insecurity INTENTIONALLY HURTS OTHER PLAYERS You wanna act like he doesn't deserve it? And it's all due to his own fault
That play against Mitchell Robinson in the recent playoffs where he tried to pull him down was when I lost it with Joel. Because that was dirty, there were no two ways about it.
I’m even lower on the 76ers after watching embiid in the Olympics. Dude relies on foul baiting and it’s embarrassing. Have fun 76ers fans. You have pg13 and embiid, two playoff droppers that are delusional
Flopper Choker Blames his teammates Complains about not having enough help Never had a season where he averaged above 23 without being at least second in the league in free throws Complains when he doesn't get an accolade gifted INTENTIONALLY HURTS OTHER PLAYERS You wanna act like he doesn't deserve it? And it's all due to his own fault
Said this in another Embiid-focused video. Joel Embiid has more flagrant fouls than Draymond Green in roughly half the games played. He’s a dirty player. Say what you want about Heat LeBron, Shaqless Kobe, and GSW KD, they weren’t dirty players. Embiid is an injury threat to players who share the court with him, even his own teammates.
He doesn't have the same reputation because he is at least somewhat funny and charismatic and was likeable his first 1-3 years. Dray's flagrants are also blatant strikes and kicks while embiid masks his as unintentional basketball motions.
If this is true I’m hiring Embiid PR firm. Because that’s crazy
So him grabbing Mitchell Robinson knee while he's getting a reb ain't dirty or intentional? Dray hits and embiid grabs u in mid air is dangerous no matter who u like and dislike
He's a clumsy dirty player one of the most dangerous kind of players.
You are 💯 correct
Embiid fans will tell you this is just part of “The Process” 😭
💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️ 💀
Excuses is a sport for them😭
@@mugiwara8295 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@@Faddahrogeroftrinibago Well most of Embiid`s fans are Philly fans, so excuses and disgusting behavior are apart of the Philly culture.
Really? Still? 😭
Joel Embiid is actually the BEST villain because a villain's main role is to make the heroes look good. Embiid is that hyped up villain who loses every time to the heroes.
How do u make the heroes look good if said heroes don't find u as a threat?
@@djadondaman17 The media has always hyped him up, even gave him an MVP, building up this villain for the casuals.
Embiid has embraced his villain role by being dirtier than Draymond, and foul bait harder than Harden.
I think that's called being a character foil
For me, villains that always lose to heroes are called clowns.
its just basketball go outside touch some grass
Your take at the 6:44 mark is wrong. Joel is 100% off base in his take about Tatum. Embiid has 6 playoff games over his career where he shot below 40% and had 5+ turnovers but his team still won. Jokic, Giannis, Luka, and Tatum COMBINED have 6 such wins.
Joel has been bailed out by his team more than any superstar in the NBA. He should NEVER be speaking about a lack of help.
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as a knicks fan, watching embiid and the sixers crumble in every way, from him being an ineffective flop merchant, their arena getting overrun by knicks fans, causing the sixers front office to mass purchase tickets, only for that to still not work, to embiid crying and making excuses after every game, was honestly the best 2 weeks of my life😂
Enjoy it, this year will be different.
@@ricanLegend2003Would not be so sure. I like PG, but him and Embiid have brittle bones at this point.Not to mention both are aging and George will be past his prime within the next 2 years atleast.
Embiid dropped 50 on the knicks with season ending injury’s. I feel really good about the Sixers this season.
@@ricanLegend2003 sixers fans the nba version of cowboys fans😭
@@Alecgotgame26 when was the last time the knicks franchise made an ECF?
the “why don’t you ever go to denver” part killed me 😂
It's so wild how Embiid says people hurt him when he's literally injured so many players
Both are true. Am sure the people he injured have said the same thing.
I still see people saying they'd pick Embiid over Jokic. It's crazy how much being a meatrider can blind you.
I've only seen peeps online try and make that claim. If you want to be seen as a somewhat knowledgeable fan you can't say that irl conversations
@@chuckthebucket8461 unless you're in Philly, but I think "Knowledgeable Philadelphia Sports Fan" is an oxymoron.
@handeggchan1057 ayyyy Rob Mcelhenney does a pretty good job of understanding how shitty Philly fans are so some of them at least know they're shit
@@handeggchan1057 get off his nuts
PEOPLE SAY THEY PICKING EMBIID OVER GIANNIS
Joel Embiid seems like the type of guy thats ultra talented with a loser mentality. Blaming everyone around him and never take responsibility
Him and Ben Simmons are the same in ideology but different players, crazy loo
Well it’s gonna get even worse when Paul George and Him get going in the playoffs😭
They need to get maxey out of there they dont deserve such punishment
@@nastyeggplantthey might get it done if Maxey is their #1. They got a great squad when healthy. But Joel gotta just put his head down and work
@@nastyeggplantMaxey better
Embiid talks too much for a player who has never played competitive basketball in June.
Facts man
ok , t mac has the same story but yall goat him like its no tomorrow . keep the same logic and stop dickriding embiid cuz social media tells you to
Exactly. Had he been merely an amazing and crafty player without much success, he wouldn’t have had that much spotlight on him. It’s his big mouth that gets the attention.
Exactly it’s even more infuriating when he takes jabs at players like Giannis, Jokic, Lebron, and Tatum
technically he did in June 2021
Watching embiid, avoid jokic in Denver for years just to be pathetic against him in the Olympics was a highlight, I'm not going to lie. It took ad and bam, top 15 bigs to stop him and even then they scored, USA and Serbia scored equally when jokic was on the floor and got blown out in mins without him
💯💯💯
I mean in the games they do play embiid has constantly played better
@@josephmeluskey4109 he got -9 or -8 aginst serbia (WITH USA, THATS TERRIBLE)
Back here after Embiids performance against Serbia.
You watch yesterday’s game? 😂
The 3 “old timers” are the reason USA even got the gold w/ Steph, Durant and LeBron.
how about joel in the seminfinals? FUNNY CLOWN NUTAZZ HOMIE
Literally carried
Y'all still lost to Argentina. Big L
They can't win without the so called Superstars.
Embiid had Jimmy, Ben & Harden…he choked with all of them. HE CHOKED!! Now he has PG, he’ll choke again!
There are 3-13 this season 😂😂😂😂
As a sixers fan embiid needs to have a 2011 dirk run to turn his legacy around
Most point drop off from reg season to playoffs that an MVP has ever displayed. Keep dreaming Philly guy.
Dirk still got to the finals and actually outplayed Timmy coming off a ring in 2006 in San Antonio. Joel doesn't even have that
thats like saying Satan needs to help a grandma over the street to become god.
@@hardywoodaway9912😭
@@samuelsamano3777To be fair Dirk had a reputation as a choker before winning his ring. Very unlikely for Embiid who drops off way more often in the playoffs to pull it off but still.
Friendly reminder: Every MVP winner in the past 10 years has AT LEAST gone to the conference finals except Joel Embiid.
Only Derrick Rose, Steve Nash and Embiid have never been to the Finals out of every MVP winner.
(Side note: I'm rooting for Memphis to somehow get to the Finals 😂)
10 years? Isn’t it ever?
Correction... EVERY NBA MVP EVER!!! has made it to a conference finals, except for Joel Embiid
@@LILCHEESE99I mean it’s obvious he just isn’t that dude. Tbh I think he needs to be the 2, or maybe even the 3. The talent is there, but something is wrong with his mental. He seems fragile both mentally and physically and frankly he simply cannot be relied on. His talent is way higher than Ben Simmons, but frankly I don’t think he’s got what it takes to carry a team as the 1st option and win a chip
@@thedman05the 3 is stretching it 1
Or 2 for sure
@@thedman05 'we just need a few more pieces' 'if i go 5-20 we get blown out' he's already admitted that he can't carry a team to victory so i totally agree, he would actually be insane as a 2/3rd option because (imo) i dont think he has the ability to be a strong leader of a team
Also don’t forget in that game 6 where Tatum went 1-14 in the first 3 qtrs, he did something that Embiid couldn’t do by taking over and having 19 in the 4th alone to force Game 7😂😂
@lookatjaydenman6383 Don’t forget the 5 minutes that passed in the 3rd or 4th of Game 6 where Embiid was on the court and didn’t attempt a shot.
@@Doatello1991 Always disappears when it matters
And all those shots were mostly on Embiid head too
@@Nick-sr4feironically the shot that got him going in game 6 4Q was a 3 over embiid
Sixers look worse than wizards without embiid. He comes back win 10 straight. Tatum getting outplayed by 2 celtics on team usa. Only reason is brown not there would be 3 celtics
Honestly, yeah Tatum is inconsistent, but I think he is slightly underrated at this point. I don’t think he’s top 5 or anything, but he is definitely slept on for the amount of success he has had in his career. I think we’ll look back in a couple of years and realize this. I also think a main reason for this is due to how we look at the game now. I remember watching the finals and I think Tatum had a really solid defensive performance the whole series. However, a lot of people paid attention to the lack of offensive production and said that he had an objectively bad series. I think he actually played solid, yeah he could’ve done way better, but he played his role really well and he took over when he needed to. I don’t think Tatum will be a top 5 player, but I definitely think he’ll be like a better version of Paul George if that makes sense. Like he can be the man and you can build around him, but you have to do a really great job building around him if that makes sense.
He's really good at everything but never exceptional at anything. His game is as text book "good" as it gets but his game has nothing that pushes him over anyone on the top 5
I think he takes too many 3s. He should drive more to get a bucket or get the and 1
i’m not sure the word “slightly” can even apply when you consider the amount hate this guy is getting now (for SOME reason)
I think people would like him more if we didn’t have National media trying to push him as the American Superstar.
Now they have their sights on Anthony Edwards, so Tatum can be judged in a less reactionary manner.
I also think he just doesn’t have that “ it” factor when it comes to the eye test. Even Tim Duncan had a pleasing serenity to his game, and you could FEEL his presence as the pillar for his team.
Jayson Tatum does not have that quality to him.
What makes Tatum so interesting is that we actually don't think this is his ceiling
Embiid’s flopping actually HAS ended someone’s career, his own teammate Danny Green. 2022 ECF Game 6, Embiid fell on him during a flop causing a tear in 2 ligaments in his left knee.
Naw Tatum is ass- what he do w/o Jalen Brown?
@@DSPHistoricalSociety I think you replied to the wrong comment dawg
@@AllSeeingThai CORRECT!!
Simply not what happened man
bro youtube the clip of him falling on dannys knee and PLEASE TELL ME HOW WAS HE FLOPPING. DUDE TRIED TO PUT UP A LAY UP through two defenders. danny himself said it wasnt embiids fault. i'm so tired of these weird ass narratives.
Embiid isn't a villain, he's more like a Seinfeld character: he doesn't really have any redeeming qualities, and it's funny to watch every situation blow up in his face
Meanwhile, MVPs like Giannis and Jokic is still playing better in different rules in the Olympics.
Yeah cause they HAVE TO. Are you dumb? Of course Giannis and Jokic gonna have crazy numbers when they play with bums, while Embiid only plays with already locked hall of famers and all nba players.
I don't think it's an "Embiid can't play with different rules" situation. He just looks washed. He's already 30 and with his injury history, I'd believe it too. His prime might already be over.
@@BlueGrovyleThey guy just got done averaging 35ppg but sure his prime is over
@@Alex-sj2gq Again, injury history. How many points he scored last season is irrelevant if he enters the postseason hobbled for what, the 5th time in a row?
And I did not _assert_ that his prime is over, only entertained the possibility. Most big men decline or at least start to decline around his age.
What nobody remembers is that Zydrunas left with Lebron to Miami. He then retired after the 2010-2011 season.
Jokic has won a trophy. Giannis has won a trophy. Tatum has won a trophy. What is joel embiid talking about, huh? The regular season doesn't matter anymore. You have to get it done in the playoffs, which you never done. You have to blame yourself for not making no eastern conference finals. Or nba finals.
Championships are not everything there are plenty of great players that never won a ring. But yes I agree embiid has to show up in the playoffs
Championships are everything. There's no point if you don't win a ring.@@impacc4182
@@impacc4182 The ringless players who are respected are beloved because at least you know they gave it all they had.
Charles Barkley was on another level in the early 90s and was dominant in the 1993 Finals.
He put up 27 points and 13 rebounds (!) and 5.5 assists as a PF against the Bulls.
He had the misfortune of playing the Bulls in MJ’s literal career best finals: 41PPG, along with 8.5 rebounds and 6 assists.
That’s what Embiid has never done. He is a player who has left a lot on the table, he hasn’t pushed himself to his absolute best and squeezed every bit of talent he has to at least go down swinging.
Say what you want about KD, but in the end, easy road or not, you can’t say that in OKC or since his Warriors days he didn’t give it all he has.
Embiid is not villain, he is just an asshole. The difference is in character strength and he has really weak one ( the character that is).
Embiid with all the talent in the world has the worst and the most annoying tendencies you see in a superstar level player. One of the most pathetic things in recent memory was essentially crying, and begging to the national media for the MVP award in 2023 that should’ve gone to Jokic. In the end Joker won the finals MVP and Embiid can’t even get out of the 2nd round.
Joel Embiid is a "fuck off" villain, not a "fuck you" villain.
mavs fan and I legitimately think that clip on mitchell robinson is ridiculous and he should be banned for 10 games for that type of play smh
dude is the dirtiest in the league by far, there was like 7 or 8 clips of him intentionally hurting knicks players IN A SINGLE SERIES. Not to mention his field goal percentage vs Mitch was ASS.
Figure since you have an 82 game season, and need 65 games for awards, I'd give him 18 game suspension.
I rooted for Embiid to win his MVP the year he got it, but pretty much everything he's done since then has made him my least favorite player.
I love his game but dude is just so unlikeable . If your going on a whole press tour campaigning for MVP you can’t go pathetic in a game 7
@@rohangupte3545Tatum really dropped a 50 ball on that man 😂
@lorddj9910 I'ma get hate for it but this is precisely why I can't take it seriously when someone says they'd take Embiid over Tatum. I'm not tryna hide it no more, when it comes to the playoffs when it counts yes we get annoyed at JT's inconsistency but we really out here willing to make excuses for a guy that just never showed up in the first place? Say what you will about JT's inconsistency but to be inconsistent means that he first had to show up on multiple occasions, Embiid never has.
@@narrow3601EXACTLY THIS. The same people who criticize Jayson Tatum will sit here and cape for Embiid when he has produced way less than Tatum
@Nick-sr4fe right?? The reason JT gets all this criticism is because he brave enough to take the accountability of when shit goes south in the first place. He knows exactly what's coming when he dawns that cape and bears with it, even having to deal with the people saying he doesn't deserve the cape. Meanwhile, Embiid's team time and time again has had to watch as he actively avoids the task of having to do the same for them. He cowers in fear of the backlash he MIGHT receive before he ever even dawns the cape. He wants the praise, but not the responsibility.
As a Nuggets fan, I hated Kobe a lot cuz he whooped our ass for years. But towards the end of his career, I realized he is a once in a lifetime player. It was terrible to learn of his passing.
What pisses me off about Embiid is that he’s constantly being compared to Jokic and delusional fans pick him over Jokic. Embiid’s resume is nowhere near Jokics, and his play style is horrendous. It doesn’t make any sense all the hype Embiid has when he’s not a real winner or team leader.
The foul baiting Joel embid does is frustrating and his game is not as fun to watch compared to the others.🏀💯
Luka, Brunson etc. do the same damn thing. Just say you hate Embiid for no reason
@@kjjr3270 foul bating is always way harder to watch when it's done by one of the biggest players in the league. And don't act like people don't criticise others for doing it as well. James harden got heaps of shit for it too (and rightfully so it was so fucking boring to watch)
@@kjjr3270 yeah but they are guard Joel embid is a a seven footer with a injury history.
@@RiamuBerru oh yeah, cause Luka or Brunson is a bit smaller he shouldn't get no slack right? Hypocrite. Luka like 6'9 as well, just be honest and say you hate Embiid just existing.
@@kjjr3270fans like you are also a big reason why no one likes embiid anymore. Blind fans. You’re comparing a 7 ft 1 280 pound center to two guards and embiid still flops more. Maybe if he focused on making the shot more than fouling then maybe he’d see a conference finals
I remember when this was titled "How to Become the NBA's Worst Villain"
Your comment is 2 hours ago- it's still called that
Haven't watched yet but it put a smile on my face seeing the notification, I love to see Embiid hate
Bruh
@@HoopEnthusiasts 😂😂
Your life must be miserable
-the life of a miserable virgin
@@kjjr3270 You must be an Embiid fan which I guarantee is more miserable
This makes the 2024-25 season so pivotal for Joel Embiid: because with the emergence of Tyreese Maxey and getting Paul George, the 76ers actually can make the ECF. With Paul George's years of being an elite player possibly being down to their last few, next year is vital for them. Yes. the Celtics will still be the biggest challenge and the Knicks will be a very close second, the 76ers can be the third or fourth best team in the eastern conference next year because no real basketball fan should ever trust the combined delusion of Doc Rivers and Darvin Ham as coaches.
Bucks coaches are frauds, but you can never count out a healthy giannis
Paul George is injured I think rn
I used to be a big Embiid fan until I realized the sum of what you said in this video. Instead of Kawhi Stephen A Smith should be referring to Embiid when he says the worst superstar.
ben simmons really saved him from generational hate
Embiid has the talent of a superstar, but not the mindset of one
12:25 The most ironic shit to hear if youre a Raptors fan since he fell on Scottie on his rookie playoff debut when was on path for a trip dub and injured him lol, and also ironic if youre a fan of other eastern conference teams, even Philly themselves since he fell on Danny too
If you're a raptors fan than you'll also remember in the first round when he took an elbow to the face from Siakam causing an orbital fracture during game 5 while we were up by 30 with 4 mins left. It's crazy almost like weird injuries happen in basketball or something??
@@Timmeh_Timbo except my point is that Embiid hurts people tryna flop for fouls or him being clumsy as fuck all the damn time
so him talking about freak accidents is very funny, bc he is the king of giving them too
I still don’t understand how we rank embiid over tatum. Embiid has never beaten tatum in the playoffs and last time they met tatum dropped 50 on him
True
I will go to my grave saying Jokic is an MVP for 4 straight years.
There is no way I will ever acknowledge Embiid as an MVP even if my life depended on it.
Funny how people blame Harden for that 2 years sixers loss when EMBIID THE MVP FIRST OPTION fails to stay HEALTHY,
Harden was 33 or 34 trying to upkeep the franchise while the hero is hurt....AGAIN
words cannot express how much i enjoyed this video. thank you swishout
Never saw him as a villain
He was a joke…
(Is)
great video and story telling
who else saw the og title "how to become the nba's next villain"
it was too dramatic so i think the new title is better. Embiid isnt really a villain either cause hes never been the best player in the world where as bron and kd were during their superteam days
Buddy has changed the name of like the last five vids within two hours of uploading
Embiid is overrated I’ve been saying time & time & time again because he never shows up when his team needs him the most. As a Philly Native Born & Raised whenever I come across ppl and I tell them that they be like “Ohhh you’re just a hater or this or that” All I do is laugh because the numbers doesn’t lie. Please don’t get me wrong he’s a good player (WHEN HE’S HEALTHILY) but when you need him those most he’s never there. And now he just sign this new contract, I’ma just sit back sip my tea & eat my popcorn and watch this plans out 🤣🤣🤣
Embiid is a straight up troll. I don't take him serious. For example, bro gotta sit on the bench with Tatum after all that talking🤷🏾♂️
As I’m watching this, embid gets suspended for shoving a media member lol
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On the "path of least resistance", Embiid declared for one of the greatest Team USAs ever this year that CLEARLY doesn't need him instead of a national team (Cameroon/France) that does because it's an easy gold.
If Unc status is remembering certain NBA events in 2010 then I'm old AF
Embiid hasn’t beat Boston in the playoffs yet
@14.37 Lebron will always be 10 years older lol
How can this bum be awarded the MVP? This bum hasn't accomplished squat
Great video👍
The worst Mvp in nba history. MOST VALUABLE PUNK tbh.
I feel for Embiid, but I feel more for Jahlil Okafor. He was the FIRST "sacrificial lamb" in Sam Hinkie's "Process" that culminated in the Sixers getting Embiid.
Being the FIRST overall #1 pick to a franchise that PROUDLY admitted being in perpetual tank mode meant his pro resume, as well as his marketability to other teams, was DOOMED from the jump.
Essentially, flop and say stupid shit all the time 😂
Embiid mocking Giannis when he can't even get out of the 2nd round was wild.
1:18 I remember being a kid watching ts premiere on Disney xd 😭
Most undeserving mvp in my lifetime
He exemplifies the opposite of that famous saying "Its impossible not to like this guy."
Dude had no business winning that MVP next to guys like Jokic, Luka, Giannis etc. Literally complained his way to the mvp, that in combination with his scheduled 2nd round choke exit every.single.year and his disgusting dirty plays and flops makes him so easy to hate
yes I'm sure he was 2nd in MVP finishes by accident for 4 straight years. Never mentioned how Jokic stole Embiid's MVPs in 2021 and 2024 either, give over
@@kaysheye7784 dude is a glorified stat padder that can't get it done when it actually matters and chokes it year after year for how long now? On top of that he is probably the dirtiest player in the league and has no problem injuring other players while at the same time being an absolute pussy constantly crying to the refs when somebody hits him. There is literally not one positive or redeeming quality about this guy that you can like. Blames everybody else every time, never takes accountability etc.Overrated, weak and soft
Dude i keep saying this, his falls and him playing in blowouts to get his numbers up, is what ruins him. If he didnt flopp that much and played less minutes, he would have lesser numbers but would be ready for playoffs... Instead he avg 36 ppg for like 40 games and most of those are vs non playoff teams... He either plays bad or ducks best teams every year... Whoever is his trainer should tell him, play less minutes, score a bit less , rebound lesa and stop throwing yourself on the floor, it doesnt even work in playoffs and you will win NBA if you stop this BS.
yeah I remember when he killed this BS narrative when he dropped 51 on Gobert and the number 1 defense in the league.
@@Swashcuff in REGULAR season lol
@stasisdan4451 😂
8:11 as a hawks fan, 2021 brings back so many great memories 🥲
Been waiting for a Vid!! Keep it up Swish
embiid is literally ESPN's darling, they create a lot of narrative just to let him win especially how embiid is a "great" defender.
Even embiid mvp was a cry price, he was never the the real deal.
Embiid and Paul George are having a blame off by the end of the year. Those two dodge responsibility better than any players I've ever seen
Nice Video Swish. See You in 2-3 Weeks 😀
LeDecision was like JFK assassination to me. I remember everything so vividly
I would take lebron at 50 over prime embiid in the playoffs...and I'm a sixer fan.
In a player's league, every legit HOF player needs to make a finals appearance as the team's #1 option.
10 years in the league and still stuck at 2nd round
Big difference - the first three were Winners + Champions. Embiid won't ever come close to sniffing either
I used to pray for times like this
Embiid doesn’t have that game 7 HIM in him
If Philly gets to an eastern finals
PG will be having Career playoff numbers
If Embid acted more serious and not always joking , he might get the benefit of the doubt but the more he trolls , the more hate and scrutiny will come his way. Good player , just not great ..yet
Joel is a bum. I can’t respect a dude that does all that work in the regular season just to flame out and not stay healthy in the postseason. The best ability is availability
@michaelbarnes2126 you can't "respect" someone because of an unfortunate injury history? That doesn't even make sense lol
@@PovertyG0d he foul baits, cried for an MVP and throws shade when he’s barely achieving anything in the league. It’s more than the injuries
Ngl u cooked with this vid🔥 straight facts
I dare someone to name a single bench player on that 2019 sixers roster 🤣🤣🤣
Greg Monroe who was -12 in the 1 min 30 sec that Embiid sat in Game 7 vs Raptors…. 💔
TJ McConnell
@@BuMPiHD 🤣🤣🤣 unless embiid played 48 minutes they had no chance.
@@ricanLegend2003 facts. His +/- in the playoffs is all time great. He was +78 against the Raptors for example - despite Marc Gasol lowkey having him in his pocket at times (only Horford i’ve seen do the same)
@@achuil he was ass. Mostly because his teammates consisted of Walmart workers on that bench.
Best video salute bruh
This video aged even worse
Like you said, Kobe was HATED! Things change with time and perspective. Ill never be a big fan but i admire his legacy/greatness.
i think the point of being a villian is we don't want you to succeed, if joel don't win in my opinion he the best villain ever lol
No, that means you failed at being feared. You just described a lolcow, lol.
A good example of a villain would be KD in GS or LeBron winning in 2012/13.
@@peamut547i think the real issue is his need to be liked. when bron, kobe and kd were hated, they embraced it. when joel gets hate or faces adversity, he deflects it and plays dumb. he’s a villain that wants to be liked by everyone. u can’t have both.
Nah the best bail out is Chuck telling Shaq, "If I had Kobe and Wade carrying my fat ass, I'd have four rings too."
Video aged like milk.
Glad to hear somebody say it. When players perform poorly these are the videos you will see.
How?
Man, these clips that you find for the start of every video is on point. Keep it up 💯
Thanks, Joel Embiid for helping USA win against Serbia!!!
10:26 they took lebron to 7 games in ECF how could you say they weren’t the better team 😂😂
This aged well
Joel Embiid really has the intellect of a squirrel.
Calling out lebron for being old seems to do it 😂
Its unbelievable how good He is yet how short he falls.
Crazy
Embiid it's just not one of the best big men in the modern era but also one of the best player.
But truthfully majority of the NBA fans knows Jokic deserve that MVP. Too bad it had gotten to sensitive topic carried by almost all the big media.
and about Ben Simmons? he just don't have the mentality.
If you look into it more I understand why Ben refused to play for them again embiid choked that hawks game but blamed Ben straight after the game for not taking the dunk look a embiids stats for that game if he had of turned up that dunk at the end wouldn’t even have mattered. Never mind he covered it
@@killiemuckenyou’re stat watching bro. Fr watch that game. When ben didn’t take that dunk the whole atmosphere changed. Wasn’t just Embiid, it was the whole team including bench and coaching staff. Not only did he mess up by not scoring, but he absolutely ruined the mentality of the team. I do agree Embiid didn’t have the best game, but Ben really did sell 🤦🏻♂️ it wasn’t Embiid team back then, it was more Ben’s team and that’s where it really fell apart
@killiemucken I hate Ben but youre right. Embiid blamed his teammates after he and Harden flamed out too. He always points the finger at everybody else.
Lmao I’m not a big fan of embiid but let’s not rewrite history that collapse against ATL was on Ben Simmons for the most part, embiid choked in game 7 as well though
Joker did not deserve that MVP. Nor the two before that.
Him not stepping beyond the 2nd round is still the biggest blemish to his name..like TMac was a perennial 1st round loser, but the guy didn't win MVP, had his prime cut short and you could argue that his teams were quite subpar during his best years..but Embiid just cant get it done even with great squads. 😬
T Mac had legit trash teams most of his career and when he didn’t he suffered from back issues or his main stars had their injuries. Their story is not alike at all.
@@bandito241 Never said it was..just saying that they're practically at the same tier as players, but Embiid winning MVP def made the "Playoff Loser" accusations more stronger compare to Mac's
@@bandito241 Not true at all. He's blown multiple leads in the playoffs. 3-1 in '03, a 2-0 lead in '05, and another 2-0 lead in '07. Of course there were injuries but Tmac is labeled as a perennial first round loser for a reason.
aged terribly
He had a good game now but that still doesn't change how annoying he is
Embiid is not consistent enough for the type of offense the team runs through him. Offense is slow when it runs through him, and he sets trash screens. Olympics are exposing the type of role he needs. He can’t have the highest usage % the way a big like Jokic can do. Jokic has a low vert, but his lateral quickness is great when compared to Embiid.
I am so tired of the embiid hate . It's crazy he could do anything and people would find a negative
Flopper
Choker
Blames his teammates
Complains about not having enough help
Never had a season where he averaged above 23 without being at least second in the league in free throws
Complains when he doesn't get an accolade gifted
Betrays his own country out of insecurity
INTENTIONALLY HURTS OTHER PLAYERS
You wanna act like he doesn't deserve it?
And it's all due to his own fault
That play against Mitchell Robinson in the recent playoffs where he tried to pull him down was when I lost it with Joel. Because that was dirty, there were no two ways about it.
I’m even lower on the 76ers after watching embiid in the Olympics. Dude relies on foul baiting and it’s embarrassing. Have fun 76ers fans. You have pg13 and embiid, two playoff droppers that are delusional
“Twuss duh Pwocess” - Joel Embiid
L video, Embiid hate is getting outta hand
Flopper
Choker
Blames his teammates
Complains about not having enough help
Never had a season where he averaged above 23 without being at least second in the league in free throws
Complains when he doesn't get an accolade gifted
INTENTIONALLY HURTS OTHER PLAYERS
You wanna act like he doesn't deserve it?
And it's all due to his own fault
Embiid is about one season away from Tyrese Maxey taking this team over and becoming the Man in Philly