Kyle started off playing in a band with my brother in our family’s home basement. I’m we went to our first homecoming dance together. I grew up with him and it’s so heart wrenching to see him this way. He wrote a song for me years ago and I will never forget him. I love you and miss you Kyle ❤
Actually just to put it out there for anyone who cares to know, I can tell you as someone who unfortunately has almost 4 years of experience being an opiate addict struggling with heroin use (and recently been out of control no longer having any sort of limit to how much I can buy & use after suddenly acquiring a large amount of money I won't say how much but it's in the 5 figure realm) that his body language is not what you said maybe he might have been feeling that but nobody can really say how he was feeling except for Kyle but his movements and body language such as the itching his wrists and face/nose are all directly indicative of heroin and/or other opiates I recognized it right away just as I'm sure anyone else who has any experience with opiates would have identified with right away and I just feel that should be cleared up because it seems a lot of people in the comments are making the same mistake or misjudgement of his behavior..
Scoobert Doobert I haven’t heard a bad album from them. I love them all! I love their growth and differences. I’ve been listening to Cold Like War over and over. RILove Kyle.
If you watch Kyle closely, you can see how much he is on edge.. he is constantly scratching himself and nervous.. so sad to see creativity destroy itself over and over again. It’s heartbreaking. 😞 RIP brother.. gonna rock your shit for good..
It hurts to see Kyle here, he was clearly in so much pain. The staring off into space, constantly scratching his arms, the nervous smiles. I wish someone could've saved him. We love you Kyle. Rest in peace
ikr.. It breaks my heart just knowing how much pain he was in the entire time he was in the band.. Really wish he had gotten the help he needed and deserved 💔💔
Kyle’s thousand yard stare at the end 🙁 He had a good demeanor at northern invasion but people are usually good at hiding things like that unfortunately. I’m glad I got front and center for them because I’m heartbroken for people who didn’t get to see them before he passed 💔
I still remember the first show I went to specifically to see them live. It was a tiny club in Phoenix and I felt so privileged to get to see them. Fuck... I really miss Kyle... such a tragedy...
As a musician and former heroin/drug addict. I can see the pain kyl was going through. Looking all over the place, scratching his arms and picking at his tattoos, and that anxiety... He was taken way to soon from us. Sometimes I wonder if there is a section in heaven/hell for rockstars, and or musicians like us. Like maybe hes with razzle from the vince neil crash, or hendrix, joplin, morrison, syd barret.. rest in peace
You can see in this video that he had other things on his mind... i consider him to be the best singer i have ever heard. His voice helped me through depression. It's crazy that he is gone.
Everyone saying his body language. That's me everyday, and I don't take drugs tho. Imagine doing an interview, i would be paranoid too. It takes time to open up to new people, but he see's new people everyday. Kyle Pavone isn't like peep, Kyle never said he like pop to pills, and talk bout girls. I don't think he was a drug addict, just a dude who wanted to get high once awhile, like a person with beer. Let him rest in peace now, stop watching this, and go listen to their music. He wanted us to do that, not have us here watching him. Have a great life everyone, don't be scared, we all gotta cross that line one day, but today is all about remorse. Here I am grown up from listening to them, crazy time flies.
Actually he was- he opened up to people about his struggles with addiction but never talked about it in public obviously 'cause it's a really personal thing His then gf knew he was struggling with it and before he passed he made an IG post about his previous overdose and it was so bad he ended up in a coma and woke up almost two days later On August 25th 2018 a police report came in that he had overdosed on heroin and it ended up being fatal and he died from it.. The fact that he was only 28 makes it even sadder
I will admit as a person who attempted suicide you can sometimes tell when a person is being obvious in theyre posture crying for help I just wish someone was able to notice
It sucks so much Kyle is gone. This was one of my favorite bands when I was younger, I thought Kyle was a really good singer. Wish he was here still making more music lol. Rest In Peace Kyle 🙏🤘. I’m going to buy a tribute shirt soon too. 🙌
I was at bar in Houston a few months before Kyle’s passing and the Roman’s were there and I remember kyle being told to leave to heavy drinking but I did get to speak to him and he didn’t see very happy. I could tell something was off. I remember telling him how much he meant to the music scene and how much their music did so much for me in high school. Very thankful for that night.
he unfortunately did drink a lot and was clearly hurting so much and the songs on the band's Cold Like War album were a cry for help.. The thing he struggled with the most tho was (trigger warning) heroin addiction which he was open about surprisingly It's just so sad how he had all the help in the world and could've accepted that help but didn't want it and his overdose in August of 2018 was not accidental; people don't accidentally overdose on drugs, there's no such thing as an accidental overdose
He just seemed like a shy guy in close quarters in the same way I do NOT do eye contact too intense god wat a force to be reckened with if he doesntbget into the hall of fame I will riot
As someone with experience with similar struggles, I can actually physically TELL that he is "not himself" here. A lot of signs... especially physical. RIP Kyle.
Never have i seen two people in the same place but completely different places mentally than dave and kyle here. Having had suffered from major depressive disorder myself, you can tell that he wants to be where dave is here but just can't do it. He probably hated how much his demeanor due to the depression contradicted the message of the band. You can tell he just wants to get home and self medicate. This is one of the last bands on earth this should have happened to. RIP kyle. Side note: if you think metalcore is poop but think hip hop and pop has artistic merit, please dont speak your musical opinion. You obviously play no instruments and just look a fool. That is all.
Trevor Baker what makes it so obvious? Him being fidgety, gazing elsewhere? That just sucks, maybe he just didn’t want to be there... we will never know.
Stfu...hiphop is literally created with real instruments. Shitty metalcore is poop. An wcar make shit generic metalcore aside a few good songs. All genre's of MUSIC are still musical regardless if you play instruments or not. I play 7 instruments an listen to most genres an hip-hop has musical merit. Especially vocally. If you don't actually listen an break it down don't critique. You just come off as a ass. Like people who trash pop music...there was a time when metal was seem as pop or jazz... Get your head out of your ass maybe? They literally mention they listen to rap in this interview you igit...
@@crowing3886 i dont care what you listen to dude. I'm just generally tired of people criticizing metalcore as if they listen to anything better. And yes i listened to the interview thanks. Kinda shitty to want to start a debate on this video where the focus should be kyle and whatnot.
@@Rob_Cary the debate was on kyle until you went on your "metalcore is the greatest genre an if you like rap you don't know music" ignorance that the very band doesn't agree. There's good metalcore...then there's bad metalcore. Wcar are not top tier metalcore by any standards. Go listen to some botch, every time i die, the bled, misery signals an etc. Just because you can dick ride a genre doesn't mean that gives you a reason to shit on it.
You can see that Dave is visibly frustrated. That’s the look of someone who knows that their friend is going down a bad path and he is being torn apart by it.
“Somethings always going to go wrong and The one who separates the good from the great is the one who will know how to deal with it” and the look of kyles face while both the other guys are laughing 😭😭😭
Dang he looked pretty bad right here rest his soul hopefully he’s at peace it was so different seeing them live with him they were so sad and gave a big speach
A lot of people in the comments are reaching and looking for stuff with kyle, only give away are how black and sunk in his eyes are. Ive been an addict for 10 yeas and an addict knows another addict. I guarantee if they knew what he was doing, someone was helping him stay well enough to play shows and keep it going. When Johnny Craig didn't have anyone to help him he literally would bail on tours.
Turquoise Cheetah That’s a really dumb thing to say lol I know perfectly fine people who started doing drugs just because they were around it all of the time. And that’s exactly how a ton of band members get into them.
I was at Northern Invasion and both days were SICK night 1 ends with A Perfect Circle and night 2 with Tool then throw in Avenged 7 Fold Alice In Chains Breaking Benjamin all them on just the main stage then like Butcher Babies Andrew WK The Used on one of the 2 second stages....so Awesome. I was at Lollapalooza 1 Ozzfest 1 Woidstock 99 and had more fun at Northern Invasion.
Honestly read your statement thinking it'd have something to do with WCAR. Instead you read off bands that don't have anything to do with this video. No one gives a shit about the bands you saw, if they cared they'd look up the lineup from Northern Invasion. You missed the whole point of this video.
Kyle started off playing in a band with my brother in our family’s home basement. I’m we went to our first homecoming dance together. I grew up with him and it’s so heart wrenching to see him this way. He wrote a song for me years ago and I will never forget him. I love you and miss you Kyle ❤
his face and body language says it all. he wasnt fully comfortable and happy. the struggle is very evident in this. rip kyle you'll be missed buddy.
@D a n i they will continue as a 5 piece. Dave is gonna do screams/cleans. Watch their live videos. He does both.
Yeah he looks kinda irritated and didn't wanna be there and talk to the interviewer. Glad he's in a better place though.
he seems so sad
Derrick sremog it was 100 degrees, did I miss the Dr in front of your name?
Actually just to put it out there for anyone who cares to know, I can tell you as someone who unfortunately has almost 4 years of experience being an opiate addict struggling with heroin use (and recently been out of control no longer having any sort of limit to how much I can buy & use after suddenly acquiring a large amount of money I won't say how much but it's in the 5 figure realm) that his body language is not what you said maybe he might have been feeling that but nobody can really say how he was feeling except for Kyle but his movements and body language such as the itching his wrists and face/nose are all directly indicative of heroin and/or other opiates I recognized it right away just as I'm sure anyone else who has any experience with opiates would have identified with right away and I just feel that should be cleared up because it seems a lot of people in the comments are making the same mistake or misjudgement of his behavior..
I maintain that Cold Like War is a great album
All that aside though Kyle is such a huge loss. Rest in Peace
Scoobert Doobert I haven’t heard a bad album from them. I love them all! I love their growth and differences. I’ve been listening to Cold Like War over and over. RILove Kyle.
If you watch Kyle closely, you can see how much he is on edge.. he is constantly scratching himself and nervous.. so sad to see creativity destroy itself over and over again. It’s heartbreaking. 😞 RIP brother.. gonna rock your shit for good..
he was clearly going through withdrawals..
It hurts to see Kyle here, he was clearly in so much pain. The staring off into space, constantly scratching his arms, the nervous smiles. I wish someone could've saved him.
We love you Kyle. Rest in peace
ikr..
It breaks my heart just knowing how much pain he was in the entire time he was in the band..
Really wish he had gotten the help he needed and deserved
💔💔
I can tell Kyle is not ok in this. I have been there before, exactly where he looks like he is. I know the signs. It's fucking sad, dude. RIP Kyle.
the signs that he was high as a kite on heroin?
Kyle’s thousand yard stare at the end 🙁 He had a good demeanor at northern invasion but people are usually good at hiding things like that unfortunately. I’m glad I got front and center for them because I’m heartbroken for people who didn’t get to see them before he passed 💔
Right? I went to a Used concert and WCAR were the opener. Never heard of them before. Absolutely blew me away.
R.I.P Kyle Pavone. Such a great person. Wish I could have met you!
Rest in peace man, we'll miss you.
I still remember the first show I went to specifically to see them live. It was a tiny club in Phoenix and I felt so privileged to get to see them. Fuck... I really miss Kyle... such a tragedy...
The Marquee? 2010??? My first concert! Was awesome
It sucks that he's gone. He was so young and talented.
Yeah ..
Sorry to myself listen after his death.
Now I playing the music band on RUclips music
Rock In Peace dude \m/
As a musician and former heroin/drug addict. I can see the pain kyl was going through. Looking all over the place, scratching his arms and picking at his tattoos, and that anxiety... He was taken way to soon from us. Sometimes I wonder if there is a section in heaven/hell for rockstars, and or musicians like us. Like maybe hes with razzle from the vince neil crash, or hendrix, joplin, morrison, syd barret.. rest in peace
Cant you think of anything else good to say about Kyle and not focused he died on heroin?
“As a musician” yeah sure dude
@@midget_spinner8449 this nigga gatekeeping being a musician lmaoo
@Nick Gurr His comment completely rubbed me the wrong way too, Dude thinks he's part of Metallica or some shit LOL
stopped reading at "as a musician" whatever you say bro.
You can see in this video that he had other things on his mind... i consider him to be the best singer i have ever heard. His voice helped me through depression. It's crazy that he is gone.
At 3:31 Kyle said "We only have more time". You never know when your day might be.
I miss you and love you so much. Sometimes the pain of losing you is literally too much to even think about for more than a second.
Everyone saying his body language. That's me everyday, and I don't take drugs tho. Imagine doing an interview, i would be paranoid too. It takes time to open up to new people, but he see's new people everyday. Kyle Pavone isn't like peep, Kyle never said he like pop to pills, and talk bout girls. I don't think he was a drug addict, just a dude who wanted to get high once awhile, like a person with beer. Let him rest in peace now, stop watching this, and go listen to their music. He wanted us to do that, not have us here watching him. Have a great life everyone, don't be scared, we all gotta cross that line one day, but today is all about remorse. Here I am grown up from listening to them, crazy time flies.
Actually he was- he opened up to people about his struggles with addiction but never talked about it in public obviously 'cause it's a really personal thing
His then gf knew he was struggling with it and before he passed he made an IG post about his previous overdose and it was so bad he ended up in a coma and woke up almost two days later
On August 25th 2018 a police report came in that he had overdosed on heroin and it ended up being fatal and he died from it..
The fact that he was only 28 makes it even sadder
Rest up Kyle you’ll def be missed homie
I will admit as a person who attempted suicide you can sometimes tell when a person is being obvious in theyre posture crying for help I just wish someone was able to notice
I’m getting more and more nervous as the day of their concert is coming closer. RIP Kyle I miss you 💔
Suck that he's gone. Rest in peace Kyle
It sucks so much Kyle is gone. This was one of my favorite bands when I was younger, I thought Kyle was a really good singer. Wish he was here still making more music lol. Rest In Peace Kyle 🙏🤘. I’m going to buy a tribute shirt soon too. 🙌
I was at bar in Houston a few months before Kyle’s passing and the Roman’s were there and I remember kyle being told to leave to heavy drinking but I did get to speak to him and he didn’t see very happy. I could tell something was off. I remember telling him how much he meant to the music scene and how much their music did so much for me in high school. Very thankful for that night.
he unfortunately did drink a lot and was clearly hurting so much and the songs on the band's Cold Like War album were a cry for help.. The thing he struggled with the most tho was (trigger warning) heroin addiction which he was open about surprisingly
It's just so sad how he had all the help in the world and could've accepted that help but didn't want it and his overdose in August of 2018 was not accidental; people don't accidentally overdose on drugs, there's no such thing as an accidental overdose
you can tell by his movements something is off ... rip
omg those people who look for each and every detail that could have predicted his death. Pathetic...
Phil B. I mean he really did seem off though :(
He just seemed like a shy guy in close quarters in the same way I do NOT do eye contact too intense god wat a force to be reckened with if he doesntbget into the hall of fame I will riot
@@vaf5864he passed away from an accidental overdose 💔
@@nitro-verse5311 he was clearly struggling and he struggled with heroin addiction..
he wasn't in a good place mentally
this was hard to watch. rip buddy.
“We only have more time”
It’s almost 5 years and it still hurts
Yes. I was crying over the weekend and watching older videos.
It really does 💔
What hurts even more is I never got to meet Kyle or the rest of the band
He said he was into Pendulum. That's one of my favorite bands ever.
5:50 and 7:06 he scratched himself, dont think he was comfortable. RIP :(
He was always pretty uncomfortable on interviews. I think he had social anxiety
Just looked like opiate itches to me. Have an unfortunate amount of experience with those. Sad that they took such a great guy and musician.
I think he’s going through withdrawal, during this interview
@@richboyprado he was
I have a friend that's been struggling with addiction and he's frequently done that when going through withdrawals 😕
This is very surreal
As someone with experience with similar struggles, I can actually physically TELL that he is "not himself" here. A lot of signs... especially physical.
RIP Kyle.
That's how i am... He got too much on his mind cant even b how he really wants to me.. People DONT TAKE PEOPLE SERIOUS OR PAY ATTENTION TO SIGNS
Never have i seen two people in the same place but completely different places mentally than dave and kyle here. Having had suffered from major depressive disorder myself, you can tell that he wants to be where dave is here but just can't do it. He probably hated how much his demeanor due to the depression contradicted the message of the band. You can tell he just wants to get home and self medicate. This is one of the last bands on earth this should have happened to. RIP kyle.
Side note: if you think metalcore is poop but think hip hop and pop has artistic merit, please dont speak your musical opinion. You obviously play no instruments and just look a fool. That is all.
Rob Cary so true. I know what it's like to be disconnected from the present, and it's obvious Kyle was unplugged from the moment here.
Trevor Baker what makes it so obvious? Him being fidgety, gazing elsewhere? That just sucks, maybe he just didn’t want to be there... we will never know.
Stfu...hiphop is literally created with real instruments. Shitty metalcore is poop. An wcar make shit generic metalcore aside a few good songs.
All genre's of MUSIC are still musical regardless if you play instruments or not.
I play 7 instruments an listen to most genres an hip-hop has musical merit. Especially vocally. If you don't actually listen an break it down don't critique. You just come off as a ass.
Like people who trash pop music...there was a time when metal was seem as pop or jazz...
Get your head out of your ass maybe?
They literally mention they listen to rap in this interview you igit...
@@crowing3886 i dont care what you listen to dude. I'm just generally tired of people criticizing metalcore as if they listen to anything better. And yes i listened to the interview thanks. Kinda shitty to want to start a debate on this video where the focus should be kyle and whatnot.
@@Rob_Cary the debate was on kyle until you went on your "metalcore is the greatest genre an if you like rap you don't know music" ignorance that the very band doesn't agree.
There's good metalcore...then there's bad metalcore. Wcar are not top tier metalcore by any standards. Go listen to some botch, every time i die, the bled, misery signals an etc.
Just because you can dick ride a genre doesn't mean that gives you a reason to shit on it.
RIP :(
I can see his pain. Shit made me cry 😭
You can see that Dave is visibly frustrated. That’s the look of someone who knows that their friend is going down a bad path and he is being torn apart by it.
Kyle didn't seem happy here):
At 1:00 the interviewer moves his ear in a curious fashion.
0:07
😞
The only thing that shouldn't get fucked up.....got fucked up
Kyle is sad :(
Chase and status and pendulum. I hear that man. R.i.p. man. Fuck
“Somethings always going to go wrong and The one who separates the good from the great is the one who will know how to deal with it” and the look of kyles face while both the other guys are laughing 😭😭😭
I was at that Northern Invasion :'(
Dave likes The Midnight hell yeah lol
Hard to watch... 😥
Poor guy
Dang he looked pretty bad right here rest his soul hopefully he’s at peace it was so different seeing them live with him they were so sad and gave a big speach
A lot of people in the comments are reaching and looking for stuff with kyle, only give away are how black and sunk in his eyes are. Ive been an addict for 10 yeas and an addict knows another addict. I guarantee if they knew what he was doing, someone was helping him stay well enough to play shows and keep it going. When Johnny Craig didn't have anyone to help him he literally would bail on tours.
Where the fuck is full version of space oddity cover?
People pointing out his body language like it isn't obvious.
what the literal
Pathetic caption.
Outsiders having technical difficulties like loud wires shity microphones that ain't working
Their music was a big deal for me in 2009
We came as roses rofl
U can see kyle wasnt well
:(
Kyle looks different from all the drugs if one he was still here
He wasn’t depressed, he was high on heroine.
Why you know this?
fluffybune fluffybune Possibly because he died of an overdose of heroine.
Turquoise Cheetah That’s a really dumb thing to say lol
I know perfectly fine people who started doing drugs just because they were around it all of the time.
And that’s exactly how a ton of band members get into them.
Turquoise Cheetah I didn’t call you dumb and I’m not ignorant lol
Just saying it how it is.
BECAUSE HE'S DEPRESSED, you're an absolute dumbass to think depression doesn't go hand in hand with addiction. Clearly he wasn't happy.
Kyle was murdered my friends!! Just like Chester from linkin park & Chris Cornell!!
These bands need to lay off the drugs
I didn''t know the guy but he seemed like a good dude making cool music. Watching this makes me sad
I was at Northern Invasion and both days were SICK night 1 ends with A Perfect Circle and night 2 with Tool then throw in Avenged 7 Fold Alice In Chains Breaking Benjamin all them on just the main stage then like Butcher Babies Andrew WK The Used on one of the 2 second stages....so Awesome. I was at Lollapalooza 1 Ozzfest 1 Woidstock 99 and had more fun at Northern Invasion.
Honestly read your statement thinking it'd have something to do with WCAR. Instead you read off bands that don't have anything to do with this video. No one gives a shit about the bands you saw, if they cared they'd look up the lineup from Northern Invasion. You missed the whole point of this video.
Josh Green NOT even in the same REALM!
@@joshgreen1285 i actually did look up the 2018 northern invasion lineup lol, i bet it was sick!