4WD Rock Sliders VS Side Steps
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- 4WD Rock Sliders VS Side Steps
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Brush bars protect against other people smacking trolley's into your panels when parked at the shopping centre carpark.
Another example of experience helping those with less of it. Great job.
Most practical advice on off roading on RUclips
I think the other thing to mention with brush bars is they also help brace the bullbar for animal impacts as well. I’ve hit 2 Roos now on the wings of my Ironman bar and it would have been interesting to see if any further damage would be done without the brush bars.
and they turn a bull bar into a ram bar!
I drove in mexico and noticed that most of the cars had steel bars along the sides of their cars : side rails, brush bars and fender rails. They actually use them in daily driving, they drove like bumper cars hitting each other crowding into lanes ect.
Had side steps... Till I learned the hard way! Start off with sliders if your into off roading.
Lake Havasu 🌞 Az USA
Great comment on compliance with side curtains. I had not heard of this before.
Thank you Ronny. This was an extremely informative and important video - especially the ADR aspects!
I realise this is about sliderrs and side steps but bash plates come into this as well. Great video as always Ronnie.
I can't wait till this King speaks of "brush wires".
Was thinking the same...I want all the info to turn standard car to mini tank.
Nice! Good advice about the sliders and ADR compliance.
This kind of content is super helpful. The most useful videos for leraning the ins and out of different mods. Thanks from Texas. Keep it up. And good wheeling
This confirmed what I have pondered about for a while. Thanks.
I started watching your videos for a quiet good time now and I definitely notice the improvement during these last years including the video editing, music, content... everything is going up and up.
Congrats and keep up the momentum😁😁😁
Thanks!
Thanks
Another great video. Always explains in detail.
Love the new format Ronny
Great to see that you're so close to 500k subscribers Ronny. Well done. Cheers
You forgot one pro to angled sliders. The hilarity of watching short friends try to jump into the truck and avoid the muddy slider 😂
My OEM tube steps were my rock sliders! Until they weren't😂 Then I got some real sliders welded on.
Another great video by Ronny and team.
Another great clip,
thank you for video
a rock side that use as air tank and side set on land rover discovery 1 was made in Australia
Great video Ronnie
Good video, awesome editing!
Brush bar adds some chassis bracing for modern chassis that appear to be more flexible than chassis of old. Bullbar, brush bars and side steps in steel add chassis bracing. Those and steel aftermarket bash plates together add bracing to chassis. Yes lots of weight but low to lower centre of gravity.
Haha!
very informative vid 👌
ive got rock sliders on my bt50 and a big branch got wedged between the sill and the slider. it dented the sill anyways but the sliders fine lol.
As an American who watches this. I have aftermarket steps so that the elderly in My family can get in and out easier.
My 2002 Ranger XLT came with a ‘Chrome’ plated bar that is probably meant to be used as a sidestep and to be fair, it has bent like a banana after some punishment. But it surprised me with how well it’s protected the sills so far. I kept thinking about taking it off until I finally buy or make myself a proper rockslider, but I don’t think the slight gain in break over angle is worth the loss in protection
Can allso just jack the car up and add sway bar. For a bit more clearance too if it's in the budget.
Hey Ronnie, just wanted to say thanks for all you do brother. I can’t even begin to tell you how much I’ve learned from you over the years. And I mean stuff I never thought I’d even remember but for some reason it’s ingrained in my head after watching your educating episodes. Thanks mate.
Curious question, if you don’t mind. I’m over here in the states and I already have a bull bar and sliders. I know I know after seeing what you said about brush rails, but I live in the national forest and we have hella trees to maneuver around. I’ve been scouring RUclips about mounting brush rails and I just can’t seem to find an answer.
How would I attach the brush rails to my already installed sliders and bull bar? Do folks in Aus usually weld them onto the sliders and then bracket them to their bull bar? Or vice versa? Any chance you can hint me the name of the parts I might need (besides the tube of course) to and where to attach them? Clamp names or kits you might know of that would help?
I was planning on just fabricating the tubing since they don’t really sell any kits like that here in the States.
Regardless, thanks as always Ronnie. You’re the best bro.
Feel free to message me on IG or Facebook too @david.rucci or @mountainoffroad4x4 🍻🙏
@@DMSVICAU thanks man! 😆🙌 ya know, I think honestly I didn’t know what the correct term for them was which is why I wasn’t pulling up anything ever! 🤦♂️😆
I did a bit of search after watching this and posting that question to Ronnie, and sure enough I got a lot of juicy info. 🙏👊
one of the rare 4x4 freaks that takes care of his health and actually works out . good on ya ron great example that more blokes should follow . most are a fat disgrace that couldnt walk out of a bad situation if they needed to. As for sliders i just spent way too long making some and now i look at them and theyre kicked up too high . looks good but not practical so onto market place they go and start again .
R/D. Great attempt to highlight these items ! 'Terrafirma' makes reference to rock sliders - seperate as rock sliders with tree bars, which was missing in this presentation mista ? V.
Angled with a kick out ordered. Wish it wasn’t 6 week leed time
Another gereat video, I approve I do :)
My '98 Isuzu Frontier came out with side steps, hoping to replace them one day.
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Have the hilux rugged X with factory sliders, probably will never use them in hard off roading. :) But they look nice. Thankfully they are legal in accidents.
Just to clarify something, when mounting rock sliders, there should be an air gap between the vehicle body & the slider. This would allow for any flex & ultimately not damage your sills etc, I would think... I purchased a set of sliders for GI s1 Patrol & the sliders were jammed hard against the body of the vehicle. When I contacted the manufacturer, they told me I had mounted them correctly & flatly refused to rectify the mounting brackets.I've since modified the sliders so they have a gap between the body & the sliders. The manufacturer is an up & coming one not far behind the likes of ECB. & OL, also, they are Qld based & manufactured in Qld. Please let me know if I'm wrong.......
It is funny, none of this compliance stuff applies in my state (USA). Bumpers are just things at the front and back at a specified height range. You can make a bumper out of wood and it passes inspection.
I find the claim that a side impact air bag wouldn't deploy because of a rock slider dubious. As far as I know they deploy because of inertia or tilt sensors. Even if they had a crumple sensor the rock rails are so low on the chassis they provide almost no protection in side impacts. A car or truck will still hit the door, a utility pole is not going to notice the rock sliders are there. My FJ has a button to disable the curtain airbags when off-roading, they deploy if you tilt the vehicle to far.
I agree about the triggering of the sideairbags. While i have read that there are pressure switches in the doors, the reason that was given was to be able to trigger deployment before the accelleration sensors detect the crash so to save time.
Which should mean that, at most the sliders will "slow" deployment to a point like if there are no pressure sensors, or the sensor doesn't get hit by the obstacle.
Hitting a concrete block (tunnel entrance?) sideways fo example, i doubt the rocksliders would prevent the airbags from comming on. As they are made for hitting something with rather slow speed vertically, and not with road driving speeds from the side.
What song do you use at the beginning?
In Serbia I manage to attest all mods except for rock slider. So its a big con for me but works fantastic.
How can i legally get sliders and full bull bar on a new patrol TIL i like the flat step style for the sliders.
Hey guys I'd like to understand more about the legality issue of sliders on side curtain airbag vehicles. A number of manufacturers such as ARB, Off-road Animal and Legendex claim their rock sliders are ADR Compliant for vehicles with side curtain airbags. How can I as a layman understand whether what they are claiming is true or if they are taking advantage of people not understanding the law?
Same here as I have installed sliders on my 200.
More importantly to me is the safety : many bull bars are ADR compliant, it does not make them safer than OEM bumper, on the contrary
As a layman myself i would say: if they can show you that their sidebars were mounted on a vehicle that underwent side crash tests and the sliders did not interfere with triggering of the side airbags.
On the other hand: from what i read, what triggers airbag deployment is a combination of accelerration sensors (several throughout the car) and pressuresensors in the doors. The later to *quicker* detect sideimpacts before the accelleration sensors detect anything.
And as i understand it, the cases where rocksliders could therefore impact side airbag triggering/deployment is sideimpact on a non deforming object. (Where the door won't get deformed before the accelleration sensors detect a reason to trigger the airbagdeployment)
Then again, the rocksliders are for the weight of your car sitting on it and getting load relatively low speed, not for impacting a concrete block with 50 kph sideways. If you hit that block, they will give way...
If you get t-boned by a car, said car will most likely trigger the pressure sensors in the doors despite the rock sliders, and your rocksliders will just be eaten up by that cars front.
Another thing as i am from Europe: there are rocksliders that can get TÜV approval in germany. If they can get that, chances are high that they do not interfere with the airbags, or the german TÜV wouldn't appove them for the road.
Ronny what's you take on 2014 jeep Rubicon factory "Rock sliders" if you have seen one.
*Me watching a video about sidesteps and rock rails
Meanwhile I living in place where the bedrock is 0.3 miles under the soil ans there is just mud everywhere.
Also me, the vehicle I used to go offroad is a hybrid bike.
And even if I would have an offroad vehicles it probably would be an offroad station wagon like an Audi A4 Allroad (an older one with proper thorsen diff)
Who made your troopy sliders mate?
Great vid Ronny. Quick question, Offroad Animal have rock sliders that they state are side airbag compatible, but the back bone of the side step is made of "Aluminium 6061 T6 Extrusion". Do you see this as a problem?
What’s an aftermarket factory sidestep
Damn techno Viking knows his sh*t about rock sliders
Hey Ronnie, any ideas where i can work shop manual for my 2011 76 series ............ i have looked every where.....
Hi Ronny - do you have any more insights on what makes a rock slider legal? I just enquired with a company I'm considering purchasing from, and they pointed out that despite best efforts, the government wasn't able to provide them specific ADR rules that they needed to adhere to, as there aren't any. We have an LC300, and I'm looking for protection, but only if I can do it legally to ensure I void no insurances.
I did a bit of googling as well, and outside of ADR 69 (front vehicle protection, which includes bull bar and brush bars) I wasn't able to find anything.
A buddy's life was saved by a slider. His ute was t-boned at a junction and survived with a fractured thigh.
Interesting. I am confused as to why they would not be ADR compliant with side airbags?
Surely 2 levels of side protection are better than 1.
Any recommendations regarding companies that makes rock sliders for a 2021 hilux x-cab?
Preferably in europe (for cheaper shipping + tax).
Alternatively name drop companies that sell around the world.
Gobi X
Sliders were the best 50kg added to my car. The flinders can be unforgiving in the rock department 😆
Hey Ronny, how are ya doing?
Hi from Germany, did you know a company that's produce Rockslider for Toyota Hilux 05-10 and ship world wide ? 😊it's really rare in Europe 🙈
I'm always amazed at the safety restrictions in Australia. Inspections for everything. It's oppressive. 😮
Can you name some legal sliders available? Looking at TJM but if they’re not full ‘sliders’ I’d rather look at other options
Legendex
Brush bars are very good for pitting cars that cut you up in traffic.
Please get Bradley Brookes from loud_n_heavy79 for an episode of modified
Dominator4x4 make really nice proper rock sliders. And offer very well priced freight Aus wide. I have no offiliation with them and am only a retail paying customer.
Phat bars all the way
Yeah alloy side steps don't do to well driving over logs and rocks especially being stock suspension and only a size up in tyres 🙄 lessons learnt
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As an American, the legality issue makes no sense to me. Why wouldn’t they want you to be able to take a hit better?
Still can't make up my mind
I'll go rhythm
It's pretty stupid to have blanket laws that prevent barwork on airbag vehicles proper offroad vehicles should have inertia sensors to deploy airbags.
so while the average bloke might imagine if there is barwork the airbag might not deploy due to a crush sensor not being activated properly by barwork which could be the case if you have crush sensors. but if you don't have crush sensors and you do have inertia sensors then the barwork has little effect once that sensor is activated by a sudden deceleration during an impact those airbags are deployed. the barwork does not prevent that from occurring.
So no airbags u can do what u want 😂
Whoever welded those sliders should look for a different line of work..
Liked to buy a patch from you but your postage is much to expensive. Putting a patch in an envelope and sent it to the Netherlands shouldn't be costing 24 AUD !