I live in the southern piedmont area of NC. I have been attempting to reestablish my lawn with cool season TTTF. It has been a trying experience. Almost all parts are influenced by some degrees of shade. I have tried several brands of turf seeds like Pennington Rebels TTTF in both full sun and dense shade mixes, Scotts sun and shade mix, Defiance XRE TTTF, FIVE STAR TTTF. Our soil is a clay sand with gravel mixture. Each seeding was preceeded with plug aeration, seed, fertilizer followed with some form of raking and irrigation. It's been a challenging. Of the mixes creeping red and Chewings have been the fine fescue seed and in most areas have survived better than the TTTF's in both shaded and sunny areas.
Merci beaucoup, I’m in Montreal Canada and I spend a lot of time working on my lawn every summer (love it). Wanted to learn more and you surely gave an incredible course that answered all my problems (type, dog, etc.). Front Kentucky and backyard Tall f. Thanks
great video. I never seen a thorough description like this. Now I know what is what in my yard. Half my front yard is always in shade because of a neighbor's large tree and now I know it's fine fescue as it folds over and the other half or yard is all sun all day and it's mostly kbg and rye. it was terribly hot this summer and the fescue survived with all the shade it gets but the other half needs to be re-seeded and now I know what's what...great job!
Tall fescue becomes invasive. It grows in thick clumps but is uneven with the other grass surface. I also noticed that the only other grass to be annoying is the fine fescue. This is not only slippery when wet, but it grows in clumps and seems to be the only grass to penetrate into tall fescue clumps
I live in PA and most of my yard is kbg. I’m not a fan of it because of how high maintenance it is. We had a few weeks for high temps and no rain, and my yard died. If you don’t water it often, it really struggles. My local plant nursery really recommended perennial rye, so I might switch to that sometime. Great video tho. Very helpful!
Josh - First off, I wanted to sincerely thank you for an absolutely superb overview of the cool grass types. I was looking for something I could send to my son - a first time home owner - about lawn types. And yours was perfect. Hats off to you! There was one thing I wanted to comment on when you spoke about th 90:10 mixture of tall fescue and KBG. My understanding is that when figures are quoted like that, it's based on weight and not seed count. And because tall fescue is much larger and heavier, that 90:10 mixture actually works out closer to a 50:50 mixture by seed count. I learned this when I ordered just such a mixture from a highly regarded premium seed supplier. And I must say that the TF/KBG mix has been fantastic, offering the best qualities of the two types of grass (i.e. hardiness and rhizomatic growth).
Hi, can you tell where did you ordered your seed from please? Im on the same boat. Just bought a house and looking to start the lawn from scratch with a quality seed for better results. Previous owners had carpet for low maintenance. Thank you
Thank you. You video is informative for me. I just laid new sod yesterday of tall fescue and overseeded. We will see. I'm in zone 7a. It's mid fall. Temps in the 70s. A little rain. I have never done this before. So we will see!
I am still a fan of Ky-31 overseeded every other year. In alternate years I overseed with a blend of other varieties. I have gotten a lawn that is super tough and can get by with 2x feedings per year and gets by pretty well on natural rainfall. It also seems to control weeds very well on its own kept mown at 3.5 inches.I love Ky-31's deep root system too.
@@CrazyLinguiniLegs Agreed, if you are like me and want a tough and low maintenance lawn that gets by fine on natural rain it is probably your choice. Not that hard to do an annual overseed. I am on hard clay and that deep root system really seems to do well.
Josh: I have a grass that grows in patches and looks like your fescue except it lays flat and has a mow hawk toward/in the middle of the patch. Any ideas?
I wonder what kind of grass I have? because its grown into areas of sand that never had grass before, if I throw 100lbs of dirt to fill a low spot then suddenly its covered in grass a few weeks later. It doesn't really burn in the summer unless I mow it too low, and it stays somewhat green in the winter ( Til it snows that is ) I've also NEVER fertilized it once in the last 30 years, never seeded it ever, and my yard is so compacted you cant stick a screw driver in the ground, the dirt might as well be concrete its hard as a rock. I also Know for sure its not blue grass because next door neighbor has that and you can see the color difference, mine is more lime green. And I should mention it is both in the sun and in the shade, and growing on rocks and sand and the driveway... and the tree roots.. Its everywhere really
Yes, a guy in my neighborhood has zoysia growing in his lawn. It does hold up better in the heat however his lawn is a tan color until about mid May because it takes longer to come out of dormancy. If you live in southern Ohio, or in the upper parts of the transition zone I bet you could pull it off, if you can get a cold tolerant type.
I have mostly a KBG lawn. Under some flowering crab apples the lawn is very thin. Could I plant fine fescue or what might you recommend that would blend in well, but still grow?
I would try some of the new turf type tall fescues. Many of the newer stuff is finer bladed that matches with KBG and is shade tolerant. It also holds up better under foot traffic than fine fescues. There is also a very good shade tolerant blend called Scottish Links by Jacklin Seed. They are all different kinds of fine fescues but are tougher and more shade tolerant than what you’d find at the big box stores. Send me a PM with your address and I’ll send you a couple of my grass seed blends for free. You can try them out in the spring and see what works best.
This is a good video but Tall Fescue only holds good against dog damage when it is cool. It does not hold up good to dog damage in the Summer at all!!!
Kentucky bluegrass or perennial ryegrass is the only consistent grass to grow for lawns and are from europe. Fescue might be a native plant to minnesota but it is not a LAWN TYPE. Hence why before Europeans arrived, there was no such thing as a LAWN
It is depend on personal reference. I had Kentucky Blue grass and it is expensive to maintain. I went with Turf type tall fescue and non regret! Whatever you like it, go ahead. After all, it is just lawn.
By far the best video describing the differences in cool season grasses!
You have a lovely, mellifluous, radio announcer voice! Thanks for the well organized information to help me choose a new lawn.
I giggled every time he said "kyeller." Very informative!
Great video! Very informative. I felt like a student in a classroom listening to the professor speak on turf grass Lol
I live in the southern piedmont area of NC. I have been attempting to reestablish my lawn with cool season TTTF. It has been a trying experience. Almost all parts are influenced by some degrees of shade. I have tried several brands of turf seeds like Pennington Rebels TTTF in both full sun and dense shade mixes, Scotts sun and shade mix, Defiance XRE TTTF, FIVE STAR TTTF. Our soil is a clay sand with gravel mixture. Each seeding was preceeded with plug aeration, seed, fertilizer followed with some form of raking and irrigation. It's been a challenging. Of the mixes creeping red and Chewings have been the fine fescue seed and in most areas have survived better than the TTTF's in both shaded and sunny areas.
Learned a lot from this video. The demonstrations in the pot make very clear picture.
This is the overview I was looking for. Thank you. Not sure what a "keller" is though.
Sounds like irish/Scottish ancestry
He is saying color
I loved the video. Couldn’t stand the “Keller”
Merci beaucoup, I’m in Montreal Canada and I spend a lot of time working on my lawn every summer (love it). Wanted to learn more and you surely gave an incredible course that answered all my problems (type, dog, etc.). Front Kentucky and backyard Tall f. Thanks
Simply the best video describing cool season grasses, thank you!
great video. I never seen a thorough description like this. Now I know what is what in my yard. Half my front yard is always in shade because of a neighbor's large tree and now I know it's fine fescue as it folds over and the other half or yard is all sun all day and it's mostly kbg and rye. it was terribly hot this summer and the fescue survived with all the shade it gets but the other half needs to be re-seeded and now I know what's what...great job!
Excellent video. The best I've seen on cold climate grass types. Thank you!
This was incredibly informative and I learned a lot more about grasses than I expected. I didn't know there were so many types!
Your video was Super informative! Thank you, it was just what I needed to identify my grass type and what I want in this new yard!
"Oh YEAH!? Well, FESCUE too, buddy!"
Tall fescue becomes invasive. It grows in thick clumps but is uneven with the other grass surface. I also noticed that the only other grass to be annoying is the fine fescue. This is not only slippery when wet, but it grows in clumps and seems to be the only grass to penetrate into tall fescue clumps
You probably refer to k31
fantastic. liked. love the breakdown of conditions under which the grasses grow best. doing a great job, keep it up!
Thanks for a very straightforward presentation.
Just the comparison I was looking for
Great video, nothing like this out there at all. I love my lawns and when I first started growing it, I struggled with seed types. This is perfect.
I live in PA and most of my yard is kbg. I’m not a fan of it because of how high maintenance it is. We had a few weeks for high temps and no rain, and my yard died. If you don’t water it often, it really struggles. My local plant nursery really recommended perennial rye, so I might switch to that sometime. Great video tho. Very helpful!
I live in jersey by the Delaware water gap. Same thing my hole lawn is dead. So mad
Great overview! Thank you.
Josh - First off, I wanted to sincerely thank you for an absolutely superb overview of the cool grass types. I was looking for something I could send to my son - a first time home owner - about lawn types. And yours was perfect. Hats off to you!
There was one thing I wanted to comment on when you spoke about th 90:10 mixture of tall fescue and KBG. My understanding is that when figures are quoted like that, it's based on weight and not seed count. And because tall fescue is much larger and heavier, that 90:10 mixture actually works out closer to a 50:50 mixture by seed count. I learned this when I ordered just such a mixture from a highly regarded premium seed supplier. And I must say that the TF/KBG mix has been fantastic, offering the best qualities of the two types of grass (i.e. hardiness and rhizomatic growth).
Hi, can you tell where did you ordered your seed from please? Im on the same boat. Just bought a house and looking to start the lawn from scratch with a quality seed for better results. Previous owners had carpet for low maintenance. Thank you
A great video! A lot of information for me. I learned a lot! Thank you very much!!
Great video, very helpful. Thank you!
Thank you. You video is informative for me. I just laid new sod yesterday of tall fescue and overseeded. We will see. I'm in zone 7a. It's mid fall. Temps in the 70s. A little rain. I have never done this before. So we will see!
Great info, guided me in the right direction to choosing the grass I need.
Glad to help!
Knowledge is Power ! Thank You 🙏
Your videos are awesome. I'm just getting into them but so far they are some of the best lawn videos on RUclips.
Really a good overview …great info
Great discussion. Very helpful. Thanks.
I am still a fan of Ky-31 overseeded every other year. In alternate years I overseed with a blend of other varieties. I have gotten a lawn that is super tough and can get by with 2x feedings per year and gets by pretty well on natural rainfall. It also seems to control weeds very well on its own kept mown at 3.5 inches.I love Ky-31's deep root system too.
K31 pros: deep roots, less watering, less fertilizing; cons: not self-repairing and texture not as smooth as KBG
@@CrazyLinguiniLegs Agreed, if you are like me and want a tough and low maintenance lawn that gets by fine on natural rain it is probably your choice. Not that hard to do an annual overseed. I am on hard clay and that deep root system really seems to do well.
K31 belongs in farm fields
The content in this video clip is so much concise and informative !!
THANK YOU!!!! I have been looking for videos trying to decide what kind of grass I need in Illinois.
Very informative video, Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
No problem brother. I’m glad you liked the video. I have a couple more I’m working on now. Let me know if you have some suggestions on future videos.
Good Information 👍
Great Info!
Great video
Josh: I have a grass that grows in patches and looks like your fescue except it lays flat and has a mow hawk toward/in the middle of the patch. Any ideas?
Any recommendations on where to find rhizomatic turf type tall fescue?
What's with the super blurry images?
And I have never heard people pronounce color as keller.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
I wonder what kind of grass I have? because its grown into areas of sand that never had grass before, if I throw 100lbs of dirt to fill a low spot then suddenly its covered in grass a few weeks later. It doesn't really burn in the summer unless I mow it too low, and it stays somewhat green in the winter ( Til it snows that is ) I've also NEVER fertilized it once in the last 30 years, never seeded it ever, and my yard is so compacted you cant stick a screw driver in the ground, the dirt might as well be concrete its hard as a rock. I also Know for sure its not blue grass because next door neighbor has that and you can see the color difference, mine is more lime green. And I should mention it is both in the sun and in the shade, and growing on rocks and sand and the driveway... and the tree roots.. Its everywhere really
great information
This is a really good, informative video
Great video.. very educational.. Thx..!
Great video ,alot of in depth information!
Thanks Bart! I really appreciate it.
I chose tttf for my front lawn and keg for the back!
Whisky for my men and beer for my horses...😛
wow, great content 😎
AMAZING VIDEO!
This was an excellent video great information. First time viewer new sub.
Great video thank you for the content
Quality content subscribed!
Thank you for this super helpful
What’s a Keller?
Awesome video thank you! Very informative and helped me alot!
really good video
What do you think about using zoysia in a cool season region? Which type?
Yes, a guy in my neighborhood has zoysia growing in his lawn. It does hold up better in the heat however his lawn is a tan color until about mid May because it takes longer to come out of dormancy. If you live in southern Ohio, or in the upper parts of the transition zone I bet you could pull it off, if you can get a cold tolerant type.
I have mostly a KBG lawn. Under some flowering crab apples the lawn is very thin. Could I plant fine fescue or what might you recommend that would blend in well, but still grow?
I would try some of the new turf type tall fescues. Many of the newer stuff is finer bladed that matches with KBG and is shade tolerant. It also holds up better under foot traffic than fine fescues. There is also a very good shade tolerant blend called Scottish Links by Jacklin Seed. They are all different kinds of fine fescues but are tougher and more shade tolerant than what you’d find at the big box stores. Send me a PM with your address and I’ll send you a couple of my grass seed blends for free. You can try them out in the spring and see what works best.
@@Joshgats20 , Hi, I don't know how to PM.
No problem. Go to my Facebook page Greenskeeper Seed and message me on there.
U need a red smoking jacket while in ur office :)
This is a good video but Tall Fescue only holds good against dog damage when it is cool. It does not hold up good to dog damage in the Summer at all!!!
No one wants to talk about the way he says color? ok then.....
Kentucky bluegrass or perennial ryegrass is the only consistent grass to grow for lawns and are from europe. Fescue might be a native plant to minnesota but it is not a LAWN TYPE. Hence why before Europeans arrived, there was no such thing as a LAWN
It is depend on personal reference. I had Kentucky Blue grass and it is expensive to maintain. I went with Turf type tall fescue and non regret! Whatever you like it, go ahead. After all, it is just lawn.
The images are horrible quality