Man, you should do a F-35 challenge; not using anything else until u´ve beaten everything else :D; Lighting II deserves more love since it´ll be the main representative for decades to come.
Imagine the frustration of being gun killed by an opponent who capitalizes on your every mistake, then being shot in the head while reaching for the ejection handle.
Love the Super Hornet content!! I’m a E/A-18G Growler mechanic so it’s pretty cool to see a product of my work in a video game!! Have fun! Love the channel!
I love the variety of pilots... I feel like when you fly with Toxic all the time you can anticipate his moves, when you fly with a different pilot it becomes a whole new ballgame
Something about jujutsu?...Oh nah...OH NO As the F-16 climbed towards the Super Hornet, the hornet asked, "if you were to dogfight me, would you win?" The F-16 smirked and said, "If you used your near instant turn to shoot at me, I might have a little trouble" The Hornet pressed further, questioning the Viper, "But would you lose?" The Viper responded saying..."Nah I'd Turn" The Viper continued, saying "Throughout heaven and airfields, I alone am the exception for I hold the title of the strongest turn rate"
I happen to know a guy that’s flown both the legacy hornet and f-16 on squadron. His assessment of the probability of victory between hornet and viper was viper wins 70% of the time, all else equal.
@@nitonono4143 look, I’m just regurgitating what the guy who actually flew them told me; but that was only as regards BFM. As far as I know, in BVR it’s much more complicated than that. What generation of systems are being used is a much bigger factor than which airframe they are attached to. Basically, if we are comparing a current FA-18F to a 1980s F-16 the viper is going to be in big trouble in BVR. That said, literally nothing more than his assessment of the BFM probability was told to me. He won’t say anything: literally anything about what systems are in any of the jets he flew. Not missiles, radars, nothing. So beyond his basic opinion (based in his experience in both jets) of the BFM fight I have no insight into what would happen if a hornet fought a viper. And I think it’s reasonable to say that, unless you’re privy to secret information about fighter capabilities you can’t really have an informed opinion either. You can read everything published and all you will have are a large collection of assumptions about what the capabilities are.
Great content, as always! What would be really interesting is to hear you and your dogfighting opponent have a chat about gameplan, mistakes and those kind of things.
are two circle fights even possible with modern HOBS missiles? I know you can jam the WEZ in a one circle, but I feel like if heaters were in play the two circle would be almost impossible
While based at Pax River, I spoke with one of the design engineers of the original Hornet. He said the Navy recently had them increase aileron authority. I asked how it worked out. He shrugged. The wings were now twisting.
Would you do F-35 vs Chinese J-20 BVR battle, please? 🙏 I suppose it will be the most likely competition between these two countries over west pacific.
That Hornet must have been from the Black Knights squadron, because you cut off both horizontal stabs and a wing. Tis but a flesh wound. Round two both arms!
7:10 that explosion was very cool, would be sweet IF ED worked on debris damage, is there explosion debris damage? i dont remember dying because from another aircraft debris.
It ain't an even fight if GS isnt flying both Aircraft.. I would like to see this too, see the difference of skill vs tactics while decision making on the fly to maximize on mistakes an or tactics/ aircraft capabilities
I don't think I've seen a video yet where he kills a bandit during the merge by dropped fuel tanks on him... Other than that, we've been treated to a pretty thorough collection of engagements.
Ah yes the high AOA and slow dominance of the hornet vs the screaming 2 circle killer f-16. Two totally different styles. These planes can kill one another all day long; as long as they know their respective strengths.
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Super Hornet bandit unknown video?
Man, you should do a F-35 challenge; not using anything else until u´ve beaten everything else :D; Lighting II deserves more love since it´ll be the main representative for decades to come.
😊 bro you have sidewinders. Why don't you use them ?
Can u play with felon against American fighters
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx
SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx
Imagine the frustration of being gun killed by an opponent who capitalizes on your every mistake, then being shot in the head while reaching for the ejection handle.
Ah, yet another reason to put off my homework
🫡 same here
Lol no Bueno buddy
Don't worry just tell your teacher there are only 2 genders and she will forget all about your homework.
No yall do y’all’s damn homework
@@zezoo2107 nuh uh cant make me
2:00 props to GS for being able to provide us with crystal clear commentary while pulling 8-9gs for 15 seconds+
Love the Super Hornet content!! I’m a E/A-18G Growler mechanic so it’s pretty cool to see a product of my work in a video game!! Have fun! Love the channel!
VAQ ftw unless your in a carrier going command like myself...
now we need one where you're in the hornet
The double tap on the pilot was wild!
I love the variety of pilots... I feel like when you fly with Toxic all the time you can anticipate his moves, when you fly with a different pilot it becomes a whole new ballgame
You remembered my Bjj comment. I'm flattered😊 I didn't know Viper can handle slow speeds like that. Good job!
That second fight was pure artistry. Beautifully done on both sides.
The Super Hornet sure does turn better when it isn't weighed down by a couple of 2000lbs JDAM's, yet deadly nonetheless.
The patience you exhibit while dogfighting is a lesson we all need to learn. Like a chess match
Something about jujutsu?...Oh nah...OH NO
As the F-16 climbed towards the Super Hornet, the hornet asked, "if you were to dogfight me, would you win?"
The F-16 smirked and said, "If you used your near instant turn to shoot at me, I might have a little trouble"
The Hornet pressed further, questioning the Viper, "But would you lose?"
The Viper responded saying..."Nah I'd Turn"
The Viper continued, saying "Throughout heaven and airfields, I alone am the exception for I hold the title of the strongest turn rate"
this is too good 💀
I only recently got into anime so I'm happy I know this reference
ok.
I can just hear the edits with this.
I'd like to see a gunfight with F-22 against two F-15s.
YES!
Su-47 vs F-15S/MTD dogfight? Seeing these demonstrator aircraft go at it is a cool thought.
I was in VFA-2 for 6 years so seeing our show bird in the thumbnail is always nice
Epic fights - had to work hard for the kills, but best man won.
I happen to know a guy that’s flown both the legacy hornet and f-16 on squadron. His assessment of the probability of victory between hornet and viper was viper wins 70% of the time, all else equal.
hobs fight? f16fa18
bvr: f16=\>fa18, f16 have very slight advantage due to its better speed means amraam can be lobbed further
@@nitonono4143 look, I’m just regurgitating what the guy who actually flew them told me; but that was only as regards BFM. As far as I know, in BVR it’s much more complicated than that. What generation of systems are being used is a much bigger factor than which airframe they are attached to. Basically, if we are comparing a current FA-18F to a 1980s F-16 the viper is going to be in big trouble in BVR. That said, literally nothing more than his assessment of the BFM probability was told to me. He won’t say anything: literally anything about what systems are in any of the jets he flew. Not missiles, radars, nothing. So beyond his basic opinion (based in his experience in both jets) of the BFM fight I have no insight into what would happen if a hornet fought a viper. And I think it’s reasonable to say that, unless you’re privy to secret information about fighter capabilities you can’t really have an informed opinion either. You can read everything published and all you will have are a large collection of assumptions about what the capabilities are.
You've been doing so well in the Super Hornet man, It would be good to see you verses an F-16.
When GS is about to pull the trigger for a gun kill, my mind tells me "he's going to miss". 😂
The Super Hornet is far less maneuverable than the legacy.
To say they are the same is a wild assessment.
Man I am LOVING all this Super Hornet content!!!
Oooh new music track between rounds! That's fun. Great match!
Was 404 Ghost talking smack? The GS Death Chuckle was out in full force! Took his head off in the last round! 😂
Love the vids!!! Been wanting to get into DCS for some time an finally making the leap into the steep learning curve of a sim. Your vids are helping.
Beautiful!
I'd love to see a SAAB Gripen vs Dassault Rafaele fight
Great matchup. GS just about did a little dirt farming after the first round. lol. two excellent DCS pilots.
Round one, at least he bailed out. He is now running to nearest airport to rent another F/A 18. Great video, thanks for posting, . Now round 2.
A like In 8 minutes is wild
He didn’t bail out the second time
That was some cold harded ISH with that last head shot. lol Great vid. Well done.
Your videos are always entertaining. Would love to see more F22 Raptor videos.
I’ve been requesting this forever thank you so much 👍🙏🙏
I had some really good dogfights thanks to the tactics I've learnt from these videos yesterday
Great content, as always! What would be really interesting is to hear you and your dogfighting opponent have a chat about gameplan, mistakes and those kind of things.
Fantastic flying. Now can we have GS flying the Super Hornet vs the F16 please?
It's fun watching artists work and I appreciate the insight you put out! I'm now going to go back to my box of jumbo crayons...
Hey GS could you do an operations or dogfight video with either the F-35 or the Mirage? Give those jets some love pls?
IMO these are the two most visually pleasing fighters every built!
Let's see some more WW2 dogfights: P-51 Mustang vs. F6F Hellcat! Continue with the creative content GS, you're doing a good job. 👍
Being a former Navy guy, I was saddened by the Hornets demise, Great fight as usual! Bravo!
The hard battles are the best, this one had only 2 rounds because both you and the F18 pilot are so skilled!!💥🔥
Two excellent pilots make for a tremendously compelling video. Definite golf clap.
Would love to see you do some 1v1 with each pilot having the exact same aircraft. I wonder sometimes how much better you are than your opponents.
"Nothing left for me to teach you" Blasts the cockpit for good measure 🤣
Oh man, what a great episode! Fantastic one.
I want to see more hornet stuff maybe some hornet dogfights?
are two circle fights even possible with modern HOBS missiles? I know you can jam the WEZ in a one circle, but I feel like if heaters were in play the two circle would be almost impossible
Going back for the pilot kill was dead ass cold blooded.
The match ive been waiting for since the last one which i think was three years ago
Great flying by both of you guys!
How about A-10 vs F-35 CAS competition based on the USAF report?
Pilot was filled with lead! Looked like you started on one shoulder and finished on the other side lol
Awesome demonstration!!! Thank you for sharing. Can you do some F-4 air-to- ground attacks with some high drag bombs?
I LOOOOVVVE the sound of the Hornet engine! So badass.
While based at Pax River, I spoke with one of the design engineers of the original Hornet. He said the Navy recently had them increase aileron authority. I asked how it worked out. He shrugged. The wings were now twisting.
Dang, I’m just watching and the views are going from 13,000 to 14,000
Wish we could get a full fidelity 18F
Would you do F-35 vs Chinese J-20 BVR battle, please? 🙏
I suppose it will be the most likely competition between these two countries over west pacific.
Every single day for the last year after a long days work I come home get in bed and look it there’s a new GS video. Never disappoints.
looks like you've been enjoying that f/a-18f mod lately
That Hornet must have been from the Black Knights squadron, because you cut off both horizontal stabs and a wing. Tis but a flesh wound. Round two both arms!
New tunes....for Viper Week ! Yes
F/A-18F vs f-15E model might be fun
6:23, "That's a wing."
I was hoping you would be in the super hornet as I thought would be interesting to see how you do as the underdog.
F-16 Vs F-18 but they each get 2 sidewinders? I love the fox-2 dogfights
Did we just witness GS do a deliberate execution? LOL
You think you could do a mission with both the F-16 and Mig-29?, would love to see the two multiroles wreaking havoc together.
The Hornet had multiple opportunities, but it seemed it simply failed in the aiming part. These kills were not for granted for the Viper.
slow is definitely the hornet's realm...it's heartbreaking to see bullet 100 markings on that pile lol
Wow, that cockpit snipe was just rude 😆
GS it would be cool to see you in the F-35A dogfighting the F-16 but with the use of fox 2's. At least I think it would be fun to see
Love a good gun fight!
Need to get some tracers for the gun.
Yeah!!! Thanks man!!
Let's see this fight BVR
Id love to see some sd-10 action with the jf17
GS talking shit for 15 min and delivering 😂. I was kinda hoping he’d pop you after dumping on the Hornet for the first 5 min 😂
Yeah do bvr with those two air crafts again.
Imagine thousands of hours of flight time, and somehow you end up in a gun fight, and you see those tracers barely miss you 😅
Yes more dogfight please, BVR are fun sometimes but dog fight is always exciting 😊❤
Who wants to see a MiG-35 dogfight? Drop a like let GS see this.
I wish you would have used the e single seat model for the dogfight
Bought the legacy hornet not 12 hours ago... If only I'd have seen this vid
Where did you learn these maneuvers. One circular two circles. Dad are these real tactics that real fighter pilots use.
I'LL CALL YOU RUTHLESS AND I'M SURE GLAD Y'ALL ARE ON OUR SIDE!!!
Bro died doing the cobra lol 😂
7:10 that explosion was very cool, would be sweet IF ED worked on debris damage, is there explosion debris damage? i dont remember dying because from another aircraft debris.
13:17 ? The pilot.. brutal
Do an F-16 vs F-22 guns only fight next
Outstanding video~ however, my first base was an Eagle (F15) base so I'd love to see an Eagle vs Eagle fight...As even as it gets...
It ain't an even fight if GS isnt flying both Aircraft.. I would like to see this too, see the difference of skill vs tactics while decision making on the fly to maximize on mistakes an or tactics/ aircraft capabilities
It would be cool if you made a video where you did 2 rounds of dogfighting then 1 or 2 rounds of bvr to show the overall capabilities
I don't think I've seen a video yet where he kills a bandit during the merge by dropped fuel tanks on him... Other than that, we've been treated to a pretty thorough collection of engagements.
Do some fox 2 fights with the viper and see how it pans out
Requesting Su-57 vs J-20.
Ah yes the high AOA and slow dominance of the hornet vs the screaming 2 circle killer f-16. Two totally different styles. These planes can kill one another all day long; as long as they know their respective strengths.
Could you do some kind of F16 “behind enemy lines” mission sometime?
Let’s see you in the f16 vs the super hornet in a hobs fox 2 fight!!
I would like to see F-35 vs Su-35. Nato vs russian main aircraft using Fox 3 to see how would actual battle would play out
Let’s gooo! Another GS video :D
This was a good matchup
love your videos never stop!
Round 2 was surgical precision by the Viper