Nice video. I've often wondered this but never found a run video of someone who converted from 540 to 550. On these 12428 and 12429 models the stock the stock 540 motor often dies cause they are actually gear pretty high for a rock racer so they can achive a decent speed on a 2S Li-ion Battery. However this puts too much load on the motor especially when running a lipo and burns them out. Alot of people do a brushless conversion but you need to upgrade the motor, ESC, radio, reciver and servo at which point it can become a bit pricy for such a cheap RC car. A 550 is good option because not only is it much cheaper cause you only have to swap out the motor but the extra size gives you more torque so not only does it perform better but the motor is not working as hard and is likely to last longer then the 540 brushed motor. Again well done on sharing this upgrade 👏
Thank you for taking the time to comment. Yes it worked rather well, I do really like the 12429 but it is a little tall in the gearing department for a rock bouncer. I'm going to try and lock the diffs to at some point. 👍😄
Hi rc friend 👋. Well done - good job - big like 👍😉. I clean the engine with cleaning alcohol and it looks very good👌. Thanks for sharing 💫. Greetings from Spain Amigo 🙂😎👍🛻💨🤝💨💨🌟💨💨🇪🇸
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 I got a 550 12T on aliexpress, and, mounted the back plate from the original 540 on it, but, is it really necesary? i didnt notice much difference from the 540(with original back plate) vs 550(with back plate from 540).. I see a lot of people mounting the new 550 without this 540 back plate..?
I modded mine to hold action figures and basically be a gi joe classified vehicle and this is definitely an upgrade i need but do you have the stock electronics in this?
The epoxy wltoys uses melts at high temps. So if you use a soldering iron to hear the screws, they'll come out and you can get that motor off the mount.
It's not the motor mounts that are the issue, it's the horrible little grub screw in the pinion gear. I've yet to get one out successfully even heating the adhesive. 😞
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 What wattage is your iron? I have an overkill 80w Weller, perhaps that's why it worked for me? Or maybe wltoys changed from epoxy that melts to something else that doesn't...? This is one of those points where wltoys seems to fall down hard, they sell all the spares you could want, but they make it difficult/impossible for most people to fully tear down the cars for repairs.
@@antontaylor4530 I've got a 100w Antex one which is vertually unusable for RC, but I think the problem was the grub screws round off so easily! I would have to agree totally with what you've said about the maintenance!!!!
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 100w should be more than enough. Short of a gas axe... Have you had any problems taking apart axles, diffs, driveshafts etc?
@@antontaylor4530 anywhere theres a thread locked grub screw there will be trouble! I've not had any issues so far but I have heard people complain about striping those parts! 😞
Pop the end bell, pull out armature put it in a drill, smooth commutator with sand paper, adavance it 1 notch, away from the way it spins. New performance.
@@rccarsandmusic2641 I tried to melt it with a large soldering iron I have but no joy, the glue was Molten but I still failed to get the bloody screw out! 😲
@@Max.Mustermann. yes! I've not managed yet to successfully remove a motor pinion with out destroying it. I don't know if it's the amount or the type but it's an issue that seems particular to Wltoys. Came to remove the pinion off a FTX Tracer yesterday an it was locktite'd on yet a good bit of pressure and off it pops! So it's not rocket science. 👍👍
Hello! Check out my other video for this truck about dual mounting two batteries. Works a treat, it significantly increased run time. hope this helps! 👍👌👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Yes i've seen that, seems like its the only way to go wighout any major cutting or modding. Thank you and keep churning out those videos!
@@roastin not particularly. Although I use the stock Li-ion's which although don't give the same punch, do last a little longer. It isn't much of a jump from 540 to 550 anyway. The only issue I have had is that very occasionally it will cut out under full power, not sure if it's because of the extra draw on the motor or wether one of the batteries I've been sing is a little duff? 👍👍
12429 is killer in the snow. I’ve got 2 of them. And had tons of fun with them.
Must admit i'm quite fond of mine! Thanks for taking the time to reply.
My kids will have a 144001, and if I upgrade them, I'll have a "free" upgrade for my 12429 🤩
Really nice to have found this channel
Welcome aboard Hugo! Yes my friend I would definitely make that 550 motor disappear!! FREE POWER! 👍😄👍
Nice video. I've often wondered this but never found a run video of someone who converted from 540 to 550.
On these 12428 and 12429 models the stock the stock 540 motor often dies cause they are actually gear pretty high for a rock racer so they can achive a decent speed on a 2S Li-ion Battery.
However this puts too much load on the motor especially when running a lipo and burns them out.
Alot of people do a brushless conversion but you need to upgrade the motor, ESC, radio, reciver and servo at which point it can become a bit pricy for such a cheap RC car. A 550 is good option because not only is it much cheaper cause you only have to swap out the motor but the extra size gives you more torque so not only does it perform better but the motor is not working as hard and is likely to last longer then the 540 brushed motor.
Again well done on sharing this upgrade 👏
Thank you for taking the time to comment. Yes it worked rather well, I do really like the 12429 but it is a little tall in the gearing department for a rock bouncer. I'm going to try and lock the diffs to at some point. 👍😄
Great mod it really woke this truck up 😁
Yes, it's not leagues ahead of the old motor. But if yours is feeling a little ropey and tired it's a nice (cheapish) way of giving it a boost! 👍
Very cool nice job👍👍
Thank you.
Mostly 540 motor is super hot..if you put fan heat sink..it will less heat for the motor🤝🏻💪🏻..awesome video
Yes I will have to put one on! 👍👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 That's awesome..sir..🤟🏻
love your videos man
Oh that's very kind of you to say. Appreciate your watching and commenting! 👌👍👌👍
Good job
Thank you very much! Appreciate the comments! 👍👌👍👌
Hi rc friend 👋. Well done - good job - big like 👍😉. I clean the engine with cleaning alcohol and it looks very good👌. Thanks for sharing 💫. Greetings from Spain Amigo 🙂😎👍🛻💨🤝💨💨🌟💨💨🇪🇸
Greetings from the UK! Did the alcohol work? 👍👍👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Yes it works, it cleans it more thoroughly than distilled water 💪. Cheers from Spain Amigo 👍😉💃
@@miguelmunozrc5574 great tip! 👍
Just did the same switch. Works great.
Yeah. Really makes a decent difference, fairly straightforward too! 👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 I got a 550 12T on aliexpress, and, mounted the back plate from the original 540 on it, but, is it really necesary? i didnt notice much difference from the 540(with original back plate) vs 550(with back plate from 540).. I see a lot of people mounting the new 550 without this 540 back plate..?
@@flaviodeslandes I'm not sure I follow. How do you mount the motor with out the mounting plate? 👍
Can you use the 12429 esc with the 550 brushed esc, because I want to do this to mine wltoys12429
Hello! Yes it seemed to work fine. Although it's brushless for the truck now as it fails to bind to the controller anymore! 😨👍👍
been cleaning tamiy mini4wds motors woth distilled water while running.. always works for brushed motors..
I think there was something wrong with it in this case. Plenty of dirt came out, unless I washed the performance out of it as well hahahaha 😄👍
hey dude, what about the remote, ESC, etc? Is it just the dynamo that changed?
Just the motor.👍
Good Video 😊😊😊
Thank you my friend! 👍
I modded mine to hold action figures and basically be a gi joe classified vehicle and this is definitely an upgrade i need but do you have the stock electronics in this?
Yes it's completely stock. 👍👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 gonna have to try that then.
The epoxy wltoys uses melts at high temps. So if you use a soldering iron to hear the screws, they'll come out and you can get that motor off the mount.
It's not the motor mounts that are the issue, it's the horrible little grub screw in the pinion gear. I've yet to get one out successfully even heating the adhesive. 😞
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 What wattage is your iron? I have an overkill 80w Weller, perhaps that's why it worked for me?
Or maybe wltoys changed from epoxy that melts to something else that doesn't...?
This is one of those points where wltoys seems to fall down hard, they sell all the spares you could want, but they make it difficult/impossible for most people to fully tear down the cars for repairs.
@@antontaylor4530 I've got a 100w Antex one which is vertually unusable for RC, but I think the problem was the grub screws round off so easily! I would have to agree totally with what you've said about the maintenance!!!!
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 100w should be more than enough. Short of a gas axe...
Have you had any problems taking apart axles, diffs, driveshafts etc?
@@antontaylor4530 anywhere theres a thread locked grub screw there will be trouble! I've not had any issues so far but I have heard people complain about striping those parts! 😞
Strong 💪👍
Thanks! 👍👌👍👌
Would it have more power if the 540 was working properly or was it the same
No the 550 definitely had a bit more go in it. 👍👍
Pop the end bell, pull out armature put it in a drill, smooth commutator with sand paper, adavance it 1 notch, away from the way it spins. New performance.
I nearly managed to strip it for just that purpose, but was soundly defeated by he ridiculous glue they use to stick the pinion grub screw in with! 😱
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 to remove grub, use a heat gun at 650f for 3 to 3 mins it will melt the lick tight. Hair dry can work
@@rccarsandmusic2641 I tried to melt it with a large soldering iron I have but no joy, the glue was Molten but I still failed to get the bloody screw out! 😲
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 the glue they use is straight from hell
@@Max.Mustermann. yes! I've not managed yet to successfully remove a motor pinion with out destroying it. I don't know if it's the amount or the type but it's an issue that seems particular to Wltoys. Came to remove the pinion off a FTX Tracer yesterday an it was locktite'd on yet a good bit of pressure and off it pops! So it's not rocket science. 👍👍
Does the larger motor shorten the run time? What size batteries are you using? I'm still figuring out a way to fit a bigger mah batter than stock.
Hello! Check out my other video for this truck about dual mounting two batteries. Works a treat, it significantly increased run time. hope this helps! 👍👌👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Yes i've seen that, seems like its the only way to go wighout any major cutting or modding. Thank you and keep churning out those videos!
@@roastin I looked at several different options and that one seemed the most straightforward. Thank you for being part of the channel! 👍👌👍
Does the larger motor significantly reduce run times on the stock batteries?
@@roastin not particularly. Although I use the stock Li-ion's which although don't give the same punch, do last a little longer. It isn't much of a jump from 540 to 550 anyway. The only issue I have had is that very occasionally it will cut out under full power, not sure if it's because of the extra draw on the motor or wether one of the batteries I've been sing is a little duff? 👍👍
Did you use original electrónic?or you changed It too
Hello. I used the original electronics. 👍
Top speed? also, will it work in the 12428?
Yes it should do. May have to trim the bodywork, but the chassis is the same. No idea as to the top speed though. 👍😊
Hola, puedes actualizar la información con el tiempo de uso, algún problema con los engranes a mayor velocidad?
¡Hola! Solo lo he usado un puñado de veces desde que hice el video. ¡Pero todavía no tengo ningún problema!
I have a Traxxas Titan 12 t. In mine.
Whats it like?
After 550 upgrade what is now top speed
Hello. I'm not entirely sure as I've got nothing to measure the speed with. Only it looked and felt quicker than before. 👍
You cooking on gas now!Bet will add a decent turn of speed
As you would expect it did make a reasonable difference. But I'm happier with the increase in power for the trail aspect. 👍
As you would have expected it did make a reasonable difference in speed. But I'm more interested in the power aspect for the trail. 👍👍
@@theminiatureconstructionco4556 will be interesting to see on that double berm bit for sure! Might get some air :-)
Get it waterproofed !
Sabe dizer o RPM desse novo motor?
I'm sorry I can't cut and paste this question to translate it. 😞
Instead of putting a 550 motor in mine i might just put a 15 turn motor in instead
You will have to let us know how you get on. 👍
What is the turns on the stock motor
Of the 12429 and 144001
Hello Tom. I'm going to be honest I haven't a clue. Perhaps an owner's club may be able to help? Thanks for watching! 👍
I think the 12428 Motor is 16 turn so it will probs the the same om the 12429 but i have no clue abt the 144001 motor
@@getoutmecar2940 it will be the same because they are the same motor (12429 etc). 👍😉