Is God a God of Informed Consent?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- This is my talk from church today! I was asked to speak about the talk Foreordained to Serve from last General Conference. If you're going to ask me to talk about foreordination, you get what you get. ;) Not really, I prayed really hard about my talk and rewrote it like 6 different times and I actually felt a lot of stress about making sure I said exactly what I needed to say. I think I did okay. The talk was well received.
Here is a link to my book on pre-earth life: www.amazon.com...
I'm African and I can tell (even if I've lived in Europe all my life) that there are a lot of rich people and people living a good life in nice places in Africa. It is just not shown on tv ^^. But, when I went over there the first time, I realised that the poverty has a lot of... "human root causes". I won't explained here because it's too long but God has little to do (and I dare say "nothing") with that poverty. But I agree, we have to have compassion for others but knowing that helps to understand that God doesn't have "favourites". It has certainly helped me a few years ago! I love this video! Thank you very much Allie ! ❤❤❤
I testify the words you spoke are true. At 67 almost years God has shown me the covenant I made before I experienced it on earth. First 15 years of life a victim of sexual abuse and many many other traumas . Translated beings are perfect in the telestial law,and they are living the terrestrial laws. God lets it happen because He would cease to being a God if He didn’t let us exercise our agency.
"A thousand years, oh, glorious day! Dear Lord, prepare my heart To stand with thee on Zion’s mount And nevermore to part!" Thoughts of the glorious soon-approaching millennium are what keep me going. The light and understanding will be marvelous. Thanks for your talk, Allie. ❤
I totally would have loved to be in your ward today 😁👍
We've adopted twice from China. This week, In the China adoption community we received the horrible news that China is closing foreign adoptions for good. 150,000+ Orphans still in China and over 400 families in process to bring a little one home. 💔 Crushed. I was looking at my life and thinking exactly that- Why am I here in luxury and all of these children were born there? So much guilt. I needed this today, Allie. Thank you- Lacy A.
For many years it bothered me (a lot) that a supposedly just God would send some of his children to earth in poverty (India/slums) and others in such favorable circumstances. In fact I was expressing this angst to some of my friends as we were walking across BYU campus on our way to hear David Christensen speak. By golly, this was his topic. This has been many years ago, I do remember him answering this question perfectly. He referred to the Pearl of Great Price, and taught about “Pre-Mortal Israel” and how many of us made covenants there! I had never heard that. I’d always thought we were all pure and equal in the pre-existence. Nope. Some, like Abraham, were so obedient and righteous for eons of time, and he earned that promise! After his talk I never felt that angst about God. As you said Allie, I am looking forward to those thousand years of learning the 360 degrees of our lives. It will be glorious!!!
I have had an illness that has been so difficult and painful. I believe we all helped choose our life circumstances. I know I choose this illness. The Lord told me I choose this. He said he told me it was not necessary. But I still felt it would make me stronger. So he honored my choice. His gift to us all is to honor our agency
This is so good I’ve listened to it three times all ready. My husband died at 37 and as I was walking out of the hospital alone this voice It felt audible and out-loud like it was coming from the heavens. “Abby you agreed to this and knew this was your plan.” Changed my life
I know I chose. My life. I remembered picking the family of Satanist to be born into! I loved that family and thought I could help them! I remember Jesus standing behind me with his hand on my shoulder saying "just remember I'll be with you in every step.". I wonder about my decision now sometimes!!! However, it has given me the experience to help others who've gone through this in this life! I had tons of children to raise and my true love and I'll be together to raise them. Thank you Allie for the work you did on my so called Dad on the spirit world!!! He healed so much! Him and I have the best relationship with him now!!!
So interesting! So we're you able to help them? If not, do you find yourself not wanting to be around them?
Jesus suffered so we don't have to. Those words took a whole new meaning for me, I love you sister.
I just watched a video on Zion media that you were talking about evil spirits which is my favorite topic and always has questions about it. And I am glad that found your channel and subscribed. I think you are soo talented and awesome! I am just happy that found you
You have a very interesting mind. You think out of the box and bring up ideas people have never thought about.
I chuckled when you'd say "Skip that part at church"
I get it though LOL
Amen 🙏 in every word ❣️Thank you from the bottom of my heart 🤗
Thank you for giving me more things to think about; I love good questions and you presented good questions!
I think this knowledge can be life changing for me. I will continue to ask for confirmation from the Lord. I will study the scriptures that back this up, I know I will find them.
The information you shared in this video is phenomenal! How you explained trauma from pre-earth life really woke me up as to how that life really must’ve been. I know about the war in heaven, etc. but I’ve never thought about what happened and how traumatic it was.
I have been working through your 30-Day books. I love being able to work on issues consistently every day. I’ve worked on realizing negative false beliefs for many years. Your books contain many more issues that I had not previously considered. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
By the way, this video is so good I plan to watch it at least 3 times to glean more information. 🙏🏼♥️
Excellent talk, thank you for sharing! ❤
Thank you, Allie! You've opened my eyes to the purpose of the millennium. ❤
Just ordered your book 😊
Can’t wait to dive into all the things and work to find my own answers.
So good Allie! Thank you for your perspective!-❤
Thank you for keeping your testimony and relationship with God while having this amazing gift of "seeing". Beyond the physical. Thank you for sharing and putting yourself out there. ❤
This is so good ! i think what you're saying is a true reality.
I’m so happy to be hearing this! Great job!!!
This was awesome! Thank you ❤
I believe our choices of what we wanted to experience was determined on what we wanted to learn while here in the world where our physical bodies were needed to actually feel the opposition. One cant learn what swimming feels like unless we get in the water so to speak...i think we truly didnt grasp the breadth of what we signed up for, but it was agreed upon by us and the gods .God is a god of order and any pre earth agreements made, needed to be signed off . I also believe we were given the wiggle room to choose other experiences while here and / or to not keep any pre earth agreements. We needed the physical body to truly grasp concepts we were learning about and we needed the physical body to truly use agency at the fullest which is a necessity to progression, that is why we needed the atonement here in the physical world, to help us course correct when our agency can pull us away from our divine blue print....anyway...i agree it is important to ask God to help remind us of the details in our blue print, our divine design...and like you said. Have compassion for others and their earthly journey, we dont know their back story..their divine arrangement. I heard someone's NDE shared ,he was a wealthy businessman who passed a homeless man everyday on his way to work, ...in his nde he saw that this man was his best ore earth friend who offered to play the role this other man needed to learn compassion, he gave up a comfortable life to play this role. Anyway, its ( mortal life)a fascination topic.
Allie! This was amazing! I’m so glad you have shared this with us. I personally needed and really benefited from this. We have been in an 8 year trial right now that makes no sense to us sometimes. Some days we have that eternal perspective about us, and we do okay. But I appreciate everything you shared. It’s helped .
I have remembered some of my pre-earth experiences and yes unhealed pain needs healing. These have best shown up as love interests in this life. One person verbalized it as well long before I would admit it. I fought it. I think because my spirit knew there was going to be mountains of emotions connected to it. I guess it's a chance to heal those relationships here and now and no longer put off working through the trauma and heal those pains. A chance to stop carrying that heavy, heavy baggage.
Thank you Allie!! This gave me more peace in my heart.. it makes sense.
Just like in the bk of Helaman is for us now & b4 the Savior came to the Americas. 3Nephi is when the Savior came to the Americas & when He's coming again. I love the scriptures!! 🙏 ❤️⚘️
Thank you!
& think about this too, come judgement, the Savior will be standing there with us b4 the Father. No, we are not perfect. The Savior will be our "attorney", so to speak. We'll be asked if we want to stay with the Savior... that's the agency. But we will know, our spirits will know. I want to be with my Savior & my family & my loved ones. 🙏❤️⚘️
The Courts of Heaven... Sounds like to me! Love that!
Love this. What religion are you Allie?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints.
The thought came to me that the Millennium will be a time where we will each need to learn to reconcile our pre-mortal existence we lived before, including any War in Heaven trauma, and our mortal life we chose in council with Heavenly Father and Mother, and perhaps the Council in Heaven. I can't believe that our 50-100 years of mortality will completely determine our endless eternal existence. There is more to it, including the concept of eternal Agency; meaning, our agency existed beofre, thus our mortal life here by exercising our agency to follow Christ, and our furture agency, where we will continue to use that agency to choose whether we want to progress from a tellestial state into a terrestrial one, and then from a terrestrial one to a celestial one. I feel the 3 degrees Kingdoms of Glory are meant to allow us to progress, as we choose to, using our agency, to learn and live theTerrestrial laws, which moves us from the Telestial world to the Terrestrial one the Earth will become. Then during the millennium, we will be taught by Christ and angels the Celestial laws, and at the end, if we learn and abide them, we can move into the Celestial world with our Heavenly Parents. It all comes down the our agency. Christ has rent the veil, and removed all obstacles to our progression, but we have to choose to follow Him and the laws he lived to obtain that same Glory. It's kind of deep, but essentially, we limit ourselves and our progression because of unbelief, pride, etc., but as we continue to progress, we can move from one Kingdom to the next, but it may be very hard to do. If we get to the terrestrial and choose not to go further, that is our agency to use, but if we choose to, we can progress into the Celestial Kingdom. Otherwise, if our agency becomes null and void, should someone in the Telestial realm finally beleive and choose to enter the Terrestrial realm, and we are comletely barred from doing so, then agency and the atonement was wasted. We choose our eternal existence, just as Pres. Nelson has stated, and it will be ourselves who limit our progress, because of our choice, doubt, lack of faith, etc. in the whole Plan of Salvation and Exaltation.
This talk would NEVER happen in my ward 😂.
I just watched a video that said (among other things) when the student is ready the teacher will appear. Then I clicked on this video.😮😮😮.
I have two disabled sons.
Sun Tzu said “ all war is based in deception.”
So yes, I believe God let infiltration happen. Maybe even from different worlds or dimensions. Fallen angels and such. There may be fallen angels still falling today.
Allie! I believe that some of the righteous dead were resurrected when Jesus was. Here is Jesus talking to the people in the Americas in 3 Nephi 23: 9 Verily I say unto you, I commanded my servant Samuel, the Lamanite, that he should testify unto this people, that at the day that the Father should glorify his name in me that there were many saints who should arise from the dead, and should appear unto many, and should minister unto them. And he said unto them: Was it not so?
10 And his disciples answered him and said: Yea, Lord, Samuel did prophesy according to thy words, and they were all fulfilled.
11 And Jesus said unto them: How be it that ye have not written this thing, that many saints did arise and appear unto many and did minister unto them?
12 And it came to pass that Nephi remembered that this thing had not been written.
13 And it came to pass that Jesus commanded that it should be written; therefore it was written according as he commanded.
I am not sure I am understanding you correctly and want to clarify. It sounds like the reason the arrows missed Samuel was because he was a resurrected being, which would be a possible reason the arrows missed him. Is this what you are implying here?
@@DesertMouse298 No. Samuel was a prophet from a different "tribe" so to speak, that came and told them that Christ was going to be born within 5 years. Some people believed him and some didn't. (He was born in exactly 5 years. The wicked who didn't believe in that prophet Samuel's prophesy were threatening death upon the believers if the sign of Christ's birth didn't happen by a specific date. It happened that night.)
Christ lived his life and was crucified and resurrected. In the Bible Christ told the people that he had to leave them and visit other sheep of his Father's. Then he visited the Americas and taught the people personally.
That's when he said what was written in the original comment above. He asked the people, hey, didn't my prophet Samuel come and preach to you? Didn't he say that people would be resurrected when I came to visit you? It goes on from there.
This info is found in the "Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ." It tells the story of a prophet who left Jerusalem with his family in 600BC before it was destroyed. They traveled to the Americas. The book covers 1000 years and shows how those people became the Native Americans as the descendants of that prophet became wicked and split into different groups who warred with each other.
I hope that helps.
If your draft is in word in Google you SHOULD be able to access previous drafts.
I don’t agree about temple work not being the main focus in the millennium. Think about how much time you’d have if you didn’t have to have a job for money and didn’t have to worry about illness and fatigue and cooking meals daily. Life will go on but it will be very different and I believe temple work will be a daily thing! I also think we couldnt make dumb choices coming to earth. I think the decision was one we were able to make with much education and thoughtfulness and seeing the end from the beginning and going into it knowing what we’d need to teach us what we need to know to be who we’re need to be or do what we came to do. Also for all Involved like who I am for my parents and sister and how I show up might make all the difference for them in the end.
Maybe not dumb but without complete understanding how hard it was going to feel. Like a woman going.to.birthing classes. No matter how much you.prepare it's so much more than expected.
I really thought the war in heaven was more of a war of words. I have that wrong??
I think so too, words are what can hurt out spirits the worst
@@CNStanza1 Everything that was created physically on this earth was created spiritually first. We had weapons in heaven.
I always thought the war in heaven was a war of words, not physical violence.
Hate has no limits. What you see there is an equal spiritually, and much more valley variety even.
Same but I've had words wounde.so badly that I thought my heart was destroyed