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  • @stanspb763
    @stanspb763 Год назад +53

    That is good advice, don't burn bridges by working with pros that you will want to work with when you are better.
    I suggest a beginner to visualize a finished image before picking up the camera... and take 1 shot then figure out why it does not look as you imagined. Don't take random shots because one might look close but you do no know why.. Before working with live models,,even if just friend, don't waste their time until your confidence is justified.. Go to a beauty supply house and buy a wig styling head, a good one that has eye and noses contours like a face. practice with that, then add a wig. That is a good way to learn how to apply light to get what you intended. Shoot everything in full manual. Vary the light intensity and direction until you can visualize the result before clicking the shutter. After a few hundred single frames where you get what you intended, invite friends who are patient and get used to directing them in the fewest words, or have them mimic your positions.
    If you invest in strobes, make sure you master one... Only when you can visualize what you intend before adding a second light source. Strobes are cheaper than ever so even hobbyists can build up a quality studio in a garage. In a large studio space you can control light better than a small space so to reduce the bleed over light bouncing from nearby ceiling and wall, use max sync speed as st\hutter speed then stop down the aperture to drop the exposure to black or very near black so your added lights control the exposure. That makes it much easier since you do not have to factor in ambient light. To get even better practice go to a store that sells displays, mannequins because the might have used one. that are full length with jointed limbs yes, there is a market for used mannequins because some stores want to trade ii existing models to keep poses fresh..If youu live in a moderately large city you can find modeling schools where students get extra credit for experience for free. later you can get experienced models who want to freshen their portfolio trading her time for your prints or files. If you find a few model s who enjoys working with you for trades, and you are efficient...setups and smoothly staying in her flow you can get a lot done very quickly as she flows between poses ever 3-6 seconds. You can really improve your portfolio quickly that was.
    Find a good but not great pro makeup artist.. A great one only when her higher rate would make a difference. A skilled makeup artist is your best friend. She needed to be used to this type of work not a general MUA, who might be good for street but only knows lighting, color temperature and oil control. A stage MUA is used to the look from the 12th row of seats, but you need one used to being seen at 1-3 feet and light temperature... After a few months of learning seriously, consider publishing your portfolio which for most viewers will be youu only chance to impress them. Even if you twice as good in 4 months, their impression of your work is that earlier version.
    Models can really impact your reputation..Treat them like they are a star, have the studio looking nice, any dressing room well appointed, nice snacks and be a complete gentleman. Word will travel fast, bad or good.
    Contrary to Internet lore, your camera is good enough. Because your sharpest work is in the studio so you have control of the background, a 1.2 lens is not needed stopped down, many portraits and fashion images were f/8 or slower and almost any lens is impressive at f/8. A full frame camera is better than crop for this but if you have decent lenses for a crop camera,, itt will be fine.. Outdoors or where you need subject isolation an f/1.8 lens can be low cost and give the isolation you want.
    Good luck, and have fun.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +6

      I could not have said it any better!

    • @pal54321
      @pal54321 Год назад

      the worst models are the brazilians, a lot are complete timewasters

    • @lifesbeautiful3024
      @lifesbeautiful3024 Год назад +7

      Stan, I have been on YT for a few years now and can count on one hand the number of comments regarding advice that were as good as yours is here. Very well said, my friend

    • @RosMyster
      @RosMyster Год назад +3

      Probably one of the most well tought and experienced advice I ever read on YT.

    • @philwebber5123
      @philwebber5123 Год назад +3

      Man, this is a whole class of teaching what you said. Thank you.

  • @visionz_n_media
    @visionz_n_media Год назад +31

    I started out just keeping a camera on me at all times. People would see I had a camera and ask me to take a picture of them. That taught me composition, natural light, reading people’s energy and capturing it in camera. As well as making the most out of any scenario. Nice advice. The only things I don’t do much nowadays is networking and linking up with other photographers. Maybe one day that will change

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      We gotta get you out to WPPI man!

  • @tristanpottier
    @tristanpottier 12 дней назад +1

    I came here because I’m changing career and become a pro photographer….so, thank you so much for your wonderful advice 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @kidglove55
    @kidglove55 6 месяцев назад +2

    Bro, I ran across your channel while searching for on camera flash tutorials. I've done a few, but I have one coming up this weekend and I always look for ways to better my craft. What you said in this video is so on point! This helped me a lot. Much appreciate you for this.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  6 месяцев назад

      @@kidglove55 anytime

  • @garfieldharper4480
    @garfieldharper4480 Год назад +11

    Great advice I’m 2 years in photography and still learning the hardest thing I think for most of us new photographers is finding what kind of photography you really want to get into I’m the guy who has kids and we go everywhere to take pictures I learned a lot by trial and error and still learning I haven’t shot a professional model yet but I do wanna try

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Its going to come to you and honestly.. i switch from the things i like to do on a yearly basis. A couple of years ago i thought i wanted to be nothing but a beauty photographer but now it gets so boring lol one minute i want to be in the studio the next minute i want to be outside

    • @manug5257
      @manug5257 Год назад +3

      Every photographer goes through that confusing phase...which genre to shoot. I suggest u shoot everything for couple of years and then u will realize which one u enjoy the most. Then stick with it. I did macro, food, birthdays, architecture, landscapes etc. Finally I decided I'm enjoying portrait more and so stuck with it.

    • @UnconventionalReasoning
      @UnconventionalReasoning Год назад +1

      Hopefully you'll also say, "I'm 20 years in photography and still learning." Unfortunately, trial and error is the worst way to learn, in general.

  • @KevinNordstrom
    @KevinNordstrom Год назад +18

    As a wildlife photographer, I have to agree on most of what you said. I will say though we have absolutely zero control over our lighting and subjects we shoot. Unlike portrait. We can wait hours, or even days in the field and come away with nothing. Overall, great video 👍📸

  • @SteveHasACamera
    @SteveHasACamera Год назад +16

    Anyone can take a photo of a beautiful person, but to take a beautiful photo of a person is a completely different skill set.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +3

      Preachhhhhhh

    • @SteveHasACamera
      @SteveHasACamera Год назад +3

      @@RyanTroy Absolutely on point with what you are saying, but it’s not just new photographers. The amount of ‘guys with cameras’, who have been shooting pretty half-naked models (badly) for 20 years. 😅🙈

  • @mendelsphotography
    @mendelsphotography Год назад +2

    Greatest advice ever heard. I am still learning and consider myself a more intermediate photographer but was once there and yes fully agree noting like actually learning and always room to learn.

  • @PDtheCEO
    @PDtheCEO 6 месяцев назад +1

    I started my process running a music label and shooting my artist. Through that process I was able to make plenty of mistakes from what camera to buy to what lights to use. I love the fact that I went through that! Great advice.

  • @hurleygreen927
    @hurleygreen927 Год назад

    Glad I found your video! I'm a Chicago photojournalist and shoot miostl;y with a 24-70mm zoom and 55mm manual macro lens for portrait work...thanks for your tips!

  • @iunderstanphotography2780
    @iunderstanphotography2780 Год назад +1

    7:15 Ha! Good advice for beginners and experienced as well,
    The reason I shoot them in whatever clothes they arrived in! or I always ask for a t shirt/jean agency look. I get a quick 10-15 frames I'm going to assume are throwaway (sometimes they aren't) test my lights, she gets an idea of what I'm like, Then we go for the first look

  • @AmbercoolPhotography
    @AmbercoolPhotography Год назад +4

    I practiced with like 3 friends when I first started. Picking photogenic people for your portfolio makes a huge difference. After that I was able to work with a couple of pros for a good deal. Then it was smooth sailing because I told them I just started, and they got other pros to help me just because. I was super grateful, and I started booking gigs a few months after that purely from being asked by word of mouth from friends and people they knew. Moving forward, that didn't stop me from shooting for personal learning experience. Reach back and ask models that you worked with and they will more than likely just go with you to shoot some randomness because they also value the experience.

  • @mister-sclark1675
    @mister-sclark1675 Год назад +3

    Great content, I like it when you said shoot your model in their crappy/ugly outfit 1st especially when building rapport. Man that makes sense.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I hate failing shots with the best outfit or the look that they really wanted only to get fire shots with the outfit or look that was something extra

  • @Sinnceremedia
    @Sinnceremedia Год назад +1

    Great advice. Going through the process myself.

  • @piotrgorajek1289
    @piotrgorajek1289 2 месяца назад

    I always start with the best outfit and easiest set to warm up, educate and encourage a beginner model

  • @philwebber5123
    @philwebber5123 Год назад +2

    Thank you Ryan. This said it all, especially the learning and passion part.

  • @taurise
    @taurise Год назад +1

    Thank you!!!! I really appreciate you! I needed to hear this and will replay this again.

  • @btecww
    @btecww Год назад +1

    Great advice. I love shooting. I tell other photographers I am not competing with you. I just want to enjoy the journey. Thanks for sharing. So many in this craft don’t have that heart or confidence

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thank you! and I love working with new photographers because i know they have a vision and watching them learn how to bring it to life is something special.

  • @jasonbodden8816
    @jasonbodden8816 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is exactly how I feel when people skip over learning what can be done with on-camera flash before jumping into off camera flash. There's so much that can be done with it and it is often overlooked because many RUclipsrs crap all over it. Beginners see that and blindly follow. Great video.

  • @tonyfphotography
    @tonyfphotography Год назад +1

    I totally agree! The more we practice, the more confident and competent we become.

  • @pedrobartolomei7707
    @pedrobartolomei7707 Год назад +1

    the tip to use the worst outfit first is priceless, thx so mucho!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thank you! for watching

  • @FRITHIMAGE
    @FRITHIMAGE Год назад +4

    Thank you my brother, a lot of us needed to hear this. Its facts.
    I've been shooting for 4yrs but only started practicing and working on my crafts seriously for 1 and 1/2yr and I feel like I am still just getting started, sometimes based on the person I am working with or location.
    I've been using that trick to use regular people and it really works. Good video great value.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thank you! every couple of years i get into a different part of photography and get intrigued and try to perfect it and its always the most fun times to me

  • @BryantDevon
    @BryantDevon Год назад +1

    Nothing but facts here!!! I tried to get as much practice as I could just learning how to communicate posing and getting people comfortable in front of the camera.

  • @rossjones2439
    @rossjones2439 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much! This info is so needed and such a blessing to recieve. Im a newer photographer and your right on time for my next move. Respect!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @martinandersen7628
    @martinandersen7628 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the very honest video man... we needed that!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for watching!!

  • @KWesley_Wandering
    @KWesley_Wandering Год назад

    Great video!! I wish I had seen this kind of video a few years ago. I watched soo many youtube videos where "the pros" were saying I needed to buy "this & that" equipment to be the better or best photographer and nothing changed for me, after buying it. I started seeing the difference when I practiced more and attended every meet-up I could. practice, practice practice!! Great video!

  • @silverdoggg
    @silverdoggg Год назад +2

    I agree, a lot of great tips here for newer photographers. I've actually never shot with a professional model and now my day to day clients aren't models so I have no real need to ever shoot with one.

  • @frankyfarset
    @frankyfarset Год назад +1

    This was helpful. Thank you for this video.

  • @akshay_9146
    @akshay_9146 Год назад +2

    As someone who started off with street and wildlife photography and now shoots portraits and events, I feel that too many young photographers focus on getting clients and likes on social media. The first time I photographed a model at a photo meet, I made her feel comfortable by connecting with her by discussing about footballers (soccer players) from her country and we clicked. I had another friend of mine whom I'm so grateful for who was posing the model and we got amazing results in my first portrait session itself. I have now worked with models from over 15 countries across different continents and it helps when you are culturally aware of something from their country which is not a lazy stereotype. Street and wildlife photography helps you build fundamentals while portrait and event photography helps you connect with people and develop a consistent workflow. And I'm still learning a lot despite doing photography for 8 years and counting.

  • @markharrington2823
    @markharrington2823 Год назад +5

    Excellent advice, Ryan. Your message is real world relevant and accurate. There is no substitute for constant practice and the commitment to learning how to master your equipment and people skills. Owning a nice camera and shooting a pretty subject does not make one a portrait photographer.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      I couldn't agree more!

  • @clarkeemalarkee
    @clarkeemalarkee 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is super good advice even for professionals/experienced photographers. Gotta remember that every new person you work with doesn't know you and doesn't know what to expect, so you gotta continue to deliver on the day of! Past work doesn't = entitlement during a shoot.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you Clark!

  • @thedualexchange
    @thedualexchange Год назад +1

    Community is everything, when you start, and even during the levels of professionalism you establish. Initially, you are working on your craft, then gravitating to knowing the business and establishing market value. Great vid my friend.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Thank you. And yes i agree... its always something to be learned as time goes on. I remember i used Smug mug for like 6 years and didnt switch until i spoke to someone that showed me how they did their gallery and i was mind blown.. switched asap.

  • @awwwwww218
    @awwwwww218 Год назад +1

    Love this video! Really appreciate you sharing some essential and helpful tips based on your experience. Thank you!

  • @Lucas85P
    @Lucas85P Год назад +1

    This is great tutorial for new portrait photographers. A lot of informations. I would like to watch you when you speak about find a work, service valuation, about find a model and how you pay them etc. Man your channel is dope.

  • @EdwardBliffin
    @EdwardBliffin Год назад +2

    What has helped me the most is going to free events...All the practice you want, good connections and no pressure to deliver anything

  • @mfieldsphotography
    @mfieldsphotography Год назад

    This is such great advice! I started Photography by attending photo-walks and photographing friends and family, the experiences were invaluable!

  • @Sony-Fanboy
    @Sony-Fanboy Год назад +1

    Nothing but facts. I really like this video. It needs to be shared and seen by a lot more people!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thank you! luckily youtube is pushing it lol way more than my other videos and I am greatly appreciative of it.

  • @olakunleolafisoye8433
    @olakunleolafisoye8433 Год назад +1

    Thats what's up bro. I started exactly the way you did, practicing my ass out ! I shot my nephew , my sister-in-law and gradually the inexperienced models and very truly , the process was fascinating. Skipping those processes would have been a doom ! Good word bro

  • @numbscenesstudios.6966
    @numbscenesstudios.6966 Год назад +1

    great advice! wish i heard this in 2016 when i first started!

  • @ericwilcox2442
    @ericwilcox2442 3 месяца назад

    I've been a sport and concert photographer for a long while and am taking my first baby step into the portrait world. In fact, I just had the first person in my newly setup home studio last week. I'd like to thank you for this video. One of my ideas to practice is to take a portable backdrop and maybe a strobe or two with modifers into our local senior center to offer free portraits. They say you need ten thousand hours to be good at something and I would consider it a nice way to start.

  • @jayrome5291
    @jayrome5291 Год назад +1

    Thank you for your honesty and mentorship.👍🏾

  • @candanceswaim7893
    @candanceswaim7893 Год назад +1

    This is so helpful! I’ve been doing photography as a hobby and finally taking the jump for professionally and this is super helpful. Thank you for your advice. I Definitely gained a new perspective and you gained a new follower

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thank you very much! glad I could help 🙏

  • @agnethaladuff8559
    @agnethaladuff8559 Год назад +1

    Awesome talk for the beginners photographers. Great video !

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @arnettmurry2911
    @arnettmurry2911 Год назад

    Thanks Ryan, Great Information. I am listening.

  • @albertjimenez7896
    @albertjimenez7896 Год назад +1

    You brought up many important issues that many photographers today neglect. Especially when it comes to not requiring a beautiful model.👍

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thank you! and thank you for watching!

  • @KilozMedia
    @KilozMedia Год назад +1

    👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽big facts, i need my wife to see this because she’s always asking why I’m trying to take so many photos of her. I think she honestly hates it.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      lol You let her know she is the reason why more money will be brought in the household! lol

  • @percymoore279
    @percymoore279 Год назад +3

    You just gave a full horse meal compared to a snack. Very powerful information for upcoming photographers. I have been shooting for a few years, but always Learning. You can never learn enough.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Thank you! i appreciate that!

    • @percymoore279
      @percymoore279 Год назад

      @@RyanTroy No, appreciate you. Sometimes the truth hurts, but we need to hear it.

    • @JakeWiped
      @JakeWiped Год назад +1

      WTF Is A Horse Meal? You Mean A Full Course Meal?

  • @artsilva
    @artsilva Год назад +4

    I blame RUclips, IG, social media in general, modern cameras that makes it easy to get a decent exposure, camera marketing, the iPhone and how it created the iPhone way of using the real camera and it's instant satisfaction... I agree with you 100%. With practice you develop your own style and look, your mastery of lighting any situation in portrait photography and not fall for the cookie cutter IG look. I'll put it this way; I have been photographing people for going on 45 years and I am STILL practicing and most of all I am Still Learning, I want to keep improving to this day. Never settle for mediocre or look alike because you and your work will get lost in the crowd and that crowd is getting bigger every day... oh and stop obsessing about what new camera to get because in the end, it's all the same especially if you don't practice and grow.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      I couldn't agree more! great points!

  • @manug5257
    @manug5257 Год назад +2

    You took me back to my initial stages of photography. My wife was my only model and I practiced with her for 6 years and learned a lot before I did my first model shoot.
    Thanks for a great tip : make the model wear the worst outfir first. This I'm gonna remember for the rest of my life. First 15-20 minutes of every shoot with new model is always bad because of our missing vibes. So its a great idea to take pics in the worst dress.
    Great video bro 👍🏼 😍🤗

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Thank you Manu! hopefully i can keep delivering good content for you to further enjoy

  • @lilrizq
    @lilrizq Год назад +2

    I once did a photoshoot of a nice young lady, and I was kinda nervous , especially when her friend decided to randomly come along too. But having her friend come along turned out to be 1 of the tips I give for new photographers now.
    A nervous model having her crazy friend at the shoot to cheer her on produced some really dope pics for my shoot. And the friend was nice looking too so I ended up getting 2 nice photo shoots in 1 day.
    You are so right on this video though, practicing your photography skills wit the homies or a homegirl that doesn't expect much is how I got a lil better at my craft as well. Nice vid.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +4

      I agree.. but if she brings her boyfriend and her boyfriend is judging her prepare for the worst shoot ever lol

    • @lilrizq
      @lilrizq Год назад

      @@RyanTroy LOL... yeah yup🤣🤣🤣

    • @jamilgotcher5456
      @jamilgotcher5456 Год назад +3

      I find when they bring a friend, it's really annoying. Most of the time the friend thinks they know more than I do (former international professional model) the friend maybe graduated Barbizon lol.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      @@jamilgotcher5456 😂😂

  • @richpoinvil9618
    @richpoinvil9618 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Ryan.Good stuff!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  11 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked it!

  • @jasonbodden8816
    @jasonbodden8816 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great vid. I learned the Exposure Triangle by shooting inanimate objects. Did that for a couple years. I didn't want to start shooting people until I was VERY comfortable navigating the settings. I'm very big on learning the fundamentals. Like you said, a lot of people want to skip the foundational work and go straight to the glamorous side of things without putting in any work and hope for the best. This is a very awesome vid filled with great insight.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you! I really appreciate that!

  • @ArchiesLens
    @ArchiesLens Год назад +2

    When I started out I took photos of my good friends, husband, parents. Even before that I started with self-portraits. I do think people (at least that I know) are out here experimenting, but maybe because I live in a LA so more people are willing to collab and create. Great video and good points though. 🌸✨

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      When i lived in NYC i felt the same way. I do think our environment says a lot. Its hard to want to be a creative in NYC and not be able to be creative when you have so much inspiration around.. I figure its probably like that in LA as well.. but where i live now lol... Ohio... its just different lol

    • @ArchiesLens
      @ArchiesLens Год назад

      @@RyanTroy ah! Say no more haha. I have some family in Ohio and it’s definitely different than LA or NY. Do you find it hard to get photo gigs out there? Or have you been able to find things since you’ve been doing it for awhile?

  • @CapturedByKen
    @CapturedByKen Год назад +2

    I'm a wildlife and portrait photographer.. feels like i have a camera in my hand 24/7 ... constantly putting in practice, doing "content days" (basically getting models to help me by letting me shoot them) , experimenting almsot everyday ...and so far, its been fantastic!
    I recently had a model that told me mid shoot that they really appreciated how comfortable i made them feel ...that made my day, by the end of the shoot we were having so much fun
    It's fun connecting with so many different people and being able to be part of their special moments ...but I have to admit that wildlife is my passion

  • @MichaelCantwell
    @MichaelCantwell Год назад +1

    Good advice again, Ryan. If you can photograph little kids, models are easy. :)

  • @williamfernandez5170
    @williamfernandez5170 Год назад

    Great video and advice my bro!

  • @ke8975
    @ke8975 Год назад +1

    Appreciate the advice brobro

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Appreciate you watching bro!

  • @ozarksdigitalcreations9254
    @ozarksdigitalcreations9254 Год назад +1

    Great video. Spot on with everyone thinking they have to have this super attractive model to get likes, but likes aren't clients and not all clients are going to be super attractive or feel they are attractive. Learn Learn Learn and shoot your everyday people and every body type. It's not just our job to take that incredible photo, but we've gotta learn to interact with different people and posing different body sizes to help keep that model/clients confidence up. This is why I love portraits and even more so moving into boudoir. The beauty of seeing someone nervous about their appearance and then leaving the shoot all smiles makes all the time invested learning worth while.

  • @nycks1
    @nycks1 Год назад +1

    This really touch home

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      I really appreciate that bro.

  • @iammarcin
    @iammarcin Год назад +1

    Great advice

  • @twrobertsphotos
    @twrobertsphotos Год назад +4

    Been saying this for years. Great video!!!

  • @Joizygyrl926
    @Joizygyrl926 Год назад +1

    This video is fantastic! I agree with taking advantage of photo meetups with other photogs and models. We all should step out of your comfort zone too. I did not too long ago and did street photography which is something I don't normally do. My fellow photogs in my local group that are street photographers gave me pointers. It was a great experience. We have started holding peer competitions to push each other.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Its always the best linking up with other photographers.. You should think about coming out to WPPI. Its an amazing event especially having all photographers from around the world in one spot staying in one hotel..

    • @Joizygyrl926
      @Joizygyrl926 Год назад +1

      @@RyanTroy Yes!!! I actually went to WPPI 2022. I had an amazing time. They had such great speakers. It was nice to be able to talk with some of the faces I've watched on YT so many times. Being able to pick their brains was really special.

  • @MaggieCortez-o8b
    @MaggieCortez-o8b 8 месяцев назад

    this helped alot thank you for your insight

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  8 месяцев назад

      Anytime! Thank you for watching

  • @alangardner8596
    @alangardner8596 Год назад +1

    Getting the best from what you have to work with is a very rewarding experience. Some really beautiful girls have modeled for me but to leave a girl after a shoot thinking she is far more amazing than she ever thought she was is a very rewarding experience.
    This also works for figure studies when the girl finds out she is far more shapely than she ever thought she was.

  • @smaganas
    @smaganas 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is a priceless video Ryan

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! that means a lot!

  • @louhightower4141
    @louhightower4141 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great advise here. I've been shooting for almost 50 years. and I still get nervous before a shoot. I've gone through several video training classes on posing, lighting and editing. What I
    've found to be most important first is to know your camera backwards and forwards. Try different settings, with different lenses. You can get several good shots just by changing your models hands, a little twist in the waist, etc., while still in the same basic pose and without moving your model's position. Just make sure the light is in the right place as your model moves her body around. There are a number of Photography Facebook groups that share critique pics and share information. Occasionally they will get models to participate in a group shoot. I've been toying around with studio simulation software that mimics' lighting in a studio environment so you can see how it affects your subject(s) in real-time. Keep Shooting!!!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you and i agree with you 1000 percent!

  • @J.Allen_Photography
    @J.Allen_Photography Год назад +1

    Great content man! Love it!

  • @boostedmaniac
    @boostedmaniac Год назад

    You’re right. I would like to do more portraits, but lately I’ve been shooting what’s been available which is my daughter’s swim meets. Like you said, I’ve been shooting a lot for free offering parents on her swim team free photos. Over the last two years I’ve improved a lot and started getting some other swim teams asking me to shoot their swimmers. But I’ve learned a lot more about lighting which I think I can apply the next opportunity I get to do a portrait session. Thanks.

  • @sebastianberes
    @sebastianberes Год назад +1

    Well said! This is great advice.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Thank you Sebastian! hope you been great!

    • @sebastianberes
      @sebastianberes Год назад +1

      @@RyanTroy On holidays enjoying mountains :)

  • @GarryM66
    @GarryM66 Год назад +1

    So so true Ryan 👍

  • @solelytanya
    @solelytanya Год назад +1

    Thank you for this. As a new portrait photographer, this is helpful. New subie here :)

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thank you for watching!

  • @Uniqdna
    @Uniqdna Год назад +1

    I practice on my kids and family all the time it’s made my paid shoots so much easier too because it’s like second nature now I don’t have to think much about settings, lighting, gear, etc I can focus solely on posing and the getting the moments that make good portraits

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Exactly!! thanks for watching bro!

  • @TMIDD
    @TMIDD Год назад +1

    Dropping jewels on them! 💎

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thanks bro!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @adampryke7118
    @adampryke7118 Год назад +1

    Great Advice!!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @omoscents6003
    @omoscents6003 Год назад +1

    Great advice bro!
    I just started and it’s truly a learning process.
    💯

  • @marcusbeasley3212
    @marcusbeasley3212 Год назад +3

    I did street photography for years, then started doing event photography. I did some low to mid level events when my equipment wasn't at the level it needed to be and when I wasn't at the level I needed to be. I made mistakes, I learned a lot from them and I would never tell a beginner photographer to go straight to the big leagues. Because if you do you're not going to know how to handle the stress of the big events and you're going to crumble, your images will not be good and you'll never be hired again. The same's the way with portraits since I do corporate head shots as well. I'll never forget having to redo a set for two people because I didn't know what I was doing with my lighting. After that it started to become something I pay more and more attention to. I'm not and will never be perfect, but I'm consistently good enough to the point where my 75% good is more than acceptable. You can't instant gratification photography. You have to grind and get good at it because it's a craft and your camera will not do everything for you.

  • @chrisgresham7048
    @chrisgresham7048 7 месяцев назад

    I have only been doing portraits for about few years..I never have reached out to my local friends because most of them do not care to be in front of the camera. Alex (Liquidvere) one of her tutorials she started out working with friends that you see on her profile today. But one of the things she mentioned that it was better to start off with models from the agencies that are starting out (portfolio) it will allow you to get better at the other stuff while not trying to do everything from photo side/deal with posing. Jon Snip actually did the opposite route where he went straight into shooting models along with his creative work flow..But I do prefer to shoot his style of work with mirrors, lace table cloths, and cookware items.

  • @chriswittstruck282
    @chriswittstruck282 6 месяцев назад +1

    great vid thanks! Well said! Subbed.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!!!

  • @tiialoukonen5750
    @tiialoukonen5750 Год назад +1

    I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm a new portrait photographer, and my path is to learn as much as I can. I've watched hours and hours of RUclips videos to learn posing and lighting and composition as well as camera settings, what lenses to use, etc. And I don't think my photos are bad because I don't have a good looking model, but because I haven't learned enough yet and don't know how to direct the model. But I have a friend who's also a new portrait photographer, and I feel he's thinking that as long as he has interesting and good looking model to shoot, his photos are going to be awesome, and I don't feel he wants to spend the time to learn stuff. For me the learning process is part of the fun!

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      Yes! The learning part is the best part. And I have been doing photography for over 14 years and i still suck at posing people.. I have a few go to poses but im always blown away when i run into a photographer that can pose people so well

    • @tiialoukonen5750
      @tiialoukonen5750 Год назад

      Some people are just so good in knowing how to pose people the way that they look natural and good. The rest of us, we just have to keep learning and trying 😊

  • @PeteLoughlin
    @PeteLoughlin Год назад +1

    Nice video. Portrait photography I snot about capturing 'beauty'. It about telling a story - who is this person? What's their story? Pointing a camera ate someone do this, Neither does lighting, The skills required are much more subtle

  • @daylanbrawley631
    @daylanbrawley631 Год назад +1

    Facts! It’s the assuming that the potential customer will be drawn in due to a halo-effect that would presumably come from shooting an “attractive” model. Though that method can work from a strategic standpoint, I’ve seen many beginner portrait photographers gain a dunning kruger effect after getting the likes and social media traffic of said work with “attractive” model.

  • @eluvsa
    @eluvsa Год назад +1

    Definitly agree so, this my first year into paid work for portrait photography and I have definitely under delivered a lot in the beginning because I wanted to jump right into paid shoots. Mainly because I was cocky going into it as I had already taught half a year of photography class (the basics) at my highschool. I'm only now really getting images that I'm happy with, but not nearly as much as I wish I do. Even when it's sunset or sunrise I'm still struggling to get amazing photos with using the sun (sun flares, super bright backlit, perfect sunset background). It definitly would have helped if I took my time and started photographing my friends first. During this summer I plan to stop taking bookings and really just get back to the roots of my photography. Without worrying about that I'm getting paid and like you said "I need to deliver something great. I rather make art than just treat it like a job. This is some really solid advice Ryan is giving, if you're new to photography go hit up the streets and bring a friend(s) along with you. Confidence will come with all the experience you'll get from it.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Heres the best part though... next year the photos you take today will suck to you and the photos you take next year will suck 5 years from now.. and the photos you take 5 years from now will suck to you 10 years from now.. so you didn't waste time in the beginning.. its just apart of your journey. You learned from it and now you will continue to grow and get better.

  • @lostcreators
    @lostcreators Год назад +2

    Awesome advice and yeah, as a new photographer myself, I quickly fell into the trap of making excuses that the most established photographers were only getting the praise and engagement because they worked with beautiful models. That's obviously a destructive mindset one could have. I went back to basics and started practicing on my wife, my sister-in-law, my friends and just took my camera to events where I knew people would be festive and relaxed and just started shooting and that has fueled my growth and confidence. We all want some microwave solution to being great photographers, which is actually counter intuitive because if you love photography, the process is one of the most important parts of it. Art is the combination of skill and time...and most of us don't want to put the time in.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      I couldnt have said it any better

  • @DaysuProduction
    @DaysuProduction 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for saying it.

  • @yusef917
    @yusef917 Год назад +1

    I always tell guys who are interested in trying photography out to always see if they want this to be a hobby or a business because they have to be invested in getting better and be hungry to create excellent images and FAIL at first

  • @ThanhNguyen-sk6uc
    @ThanhNguyen-sk6uc Год назад

    I live in south Jersey when I lived in Philly I used to go out the streets and shoot all the time. But I struggle the most with finding other photographer that would want to do the same. Alot of other shooters that I come across think it's competition when it's not . My dream is to go on a photo walk with a group of shooters and enjoy having fun.

  • @BrandonColePhotography
    @BrandonColePhotography 11 месяцев назад +1

    Good job fam

  • @mwaithephoto
    @mwaithephoto Год назад +5

    Honestly 2 minutes in and I’ve said this about photographers in my area. They don’t even know the gear they are using. I have a 6 year old and every lens,camera, flash is being used on her first and I go to so many photo walks.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      It is great being able to surround ourselves with other people that have creative visions as well. As far as linking with other photographers and even models that see things the way we do as well. When my sons start taking direction I'll be able to do the same lol

  • @aldrindetablan4358
    @aldrindetablan4358 Год назад +1

    100% agree brother

  • @itsgreg72
    @itsgreg72 Год назад +1

    I was just talking to a good friend of mine that is trying to establish her own brand about we started working together and how we was able to build that chemistry. The conclusion I came up with is that it helped that we was in the same place. We both was working to get our names out there. She gets quality pics, I get much needed practice. My improvements means she benefits.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Sounds like a win win to me! 💪

  • @DPhotos
    @DPhotos Год назад +1

    Good video I could’ve used it about five years ago but still an amazing video! Just jokes just jokes, but really appreciate what you doing💯

  • @narsplace
    @narsplace 5 месяцев назад

    I love street photography, because I love to capture the eveyday lives of people.

  • @wanneske1969
    @wanneske1969 Год назад +1

    The most important in photography is recognizing your mistakes and learning from it. If you only have (online) comments saying you are so good, you'll never learn.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      That is completely true!

  • @UnconventionalReasoning
    @UnconventionalReasoning Год назад +1

    I agree that it is important for a beginner photographer to learn how to take special portrait photos before thinking they're ready to make it a business.
    I disagree that models expect the photographer to be at their level of expertise. The key is to have the conversation with the model, being honest, and make it clear that the goal is to learn how to be a better portrait photographer. Many will be fine with this. The rest will probably decline the collaboration.
    In general, "just try" is a very inefficient way to learn. We seem to be stuck on the myth of "I can just do this" rather than "Who can help me learn how to do this." To learn how to play basketball, to just go to the court and shoot is a recipe for failure, the person will develop poor form and habits. Going to a basketball clinic or camp is much more useful.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      I see what you are saying.. so would you say going to photo meet ups and work shops can be beneficial?

    • @UnconventionalReasoning
      @UnconventionalReasoning Год назад

      @@RyanTroy Yes, I think photo meet ups and workshops can be very beneficial, if the person is there to *learn*. They can see what the person leading the group is doing, as well as what others who may be more advanced. They can also get some guidance and feedback.
      Learning requires intention. Most people are good at learning things in the fields they already specialize in, being able to get better. But the general process of learning is rarely taught. What we do as young children is different than what is effective as teens and adults.

  • @funfilmphilippines
    @funfilmphilippines Год назад +1

    First time i played basketball i scored 50 points. I just kept hitting 'restart' on my controller for 6 years until i finally got good.

  • @nycks1
    @nycks1 Год назад +1

    FACTS!

  • @camcappe353
    @camcappe353 11 месяцев назад +1

    I always treat my models great but because thats what comes with being a professional. The truth though is models and clients everybody will say bad things about you. Make up artists, people who do food styling, so don’t go expecting that people will have chemistry with you and love your work. People’s nature is like that and will let you down. This is the main reason its really really hard to make it in this business. People just want to see you fail. You have to push through all that! Its the toughest part. Also never work with minors even if parents give written permission, save yourself the trouble they are kids and will be a nightmare.

  • @drunkestdriver
    @drunkestdriver Год назад +4

    3:48 too bad most photographers and videographers in my area are complete snobs smh

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      what area are you from?

  • @TheOneWillFocus
    @TheOneWillFocus Год назад +1

    I've said everything you're saying rn. There's a fetishization of the craft and people have different expectations and are missing out on what builds them as that portrait photographer.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад +1

      We also need to bring the histogram back lol because a lot of these new photographers don't even know how to read one 😕 But hopefully we can get it back because every year cameras become cheaper to buy it lets someone that inspires to be a photographer easier to get one. and that im happy about, but the first time I rode a bike i fell.. and they just need to fall a few times get back up learn what they did wrong and they will be amazing

    • @TheOneWillFocus
      @TheOneWillFocus Год назад +1

      @@RyanTroy absolutely agree bro. Couldn't have said it better. Next time you in NY if I'm hosting a session I want you to come thru. We just had our rain room session yesterday. I'm gonna make sure I follow you on IG

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy  Год назад

      Of course bro!

  • @richardomar6820
    @richardomar6820 Месяц назад +1

    So true