Love it when Pete goes off on a rant! Much funnier than the "best" shows. And probably more helpfull. Avoiding bad experiences is much more important when your vacation time is limited.
Disney World's room service delivery pizza must be as bad as ours in Disneyland. Absolutely horrible, worse than your average frozen pizza, on par with something you'd eat at an arcade. The only reason we ordered it last time was the torrential downpour and winds outside. Next time I'm donning a parka and walking my ass to Downtown Disney rather than eating that tomato-covered cardboard.
I know the pizza is bad, but it's two table credits for a pizza that could serve four people vs. taking four people to any signature restaurant for eight credits. If you're trying to conserve table service credits so that you can go to a signature restaurant, it's not a terrible idea (IMHO).
I agree. Plus, it's more of a convenience thing. After a long day, sometimes it's more efficient to have the pizza delivered to serve more people and save those credits.
It's still a rip off. Consider you can eat at places that cost almost 60 bucks a person with just 1 table service. That pizza is worth 15 bucks at most, plus drinks, no more than 25 bucks. It's still bad.
The food at Cinderella's Royal Table definitely isn't tasty enough to warrant the cost or two credits but the experience for children is worth it to do once. I have a picky eater in my family so for me there are very few places worth 2 credits since I know she'll order mac & cheese (shout out Steve!) but she loved the idea of being in the castle for that meal.
Pete's description of pizza is even better than his description of Tony's! Totally agree! Elementary school cafeteria pizza is better than Disney's version. How they can actually mess pizza up that bad is a mystery to me.
Pete - I saw a Digiorno truck backed up near food service at Pop Century -so, that is probably what it is. However, if one pizza can feed a family who is overtired (children - you feed them, bathe them and put them to bed - your goal is accomplished). No one wants to eat anywhere where someone is having a meltdown. There is a purpose and reason for everything. If you can spend 2 credits for a family and accomplish your goal then winner winner.
I was wondering the reasons for Le Cellar too. The last time I was at Disney World was in '99 and that is one of the few meals I positively remember to this day. My husband had a maple salmon that was amazing and I tried to duplicate it for a long time until I figured it out. I'm Canadian on the West Coast and remember thinking it was weird to go there but it was exactly the type of food we were looking for. Florida food is so different when what we have over here on the West Coast of Canada. Anyway a lot can change in 18 years too, maybe there can be some follow up video with what Craig thought.
I've been watching this for years show for years. I really enjoy each cast member in different ways (except Kevin). This was a great episode........until the end. Pete really treated Craig like crap, lol. Really! After giving everyone this huge disclaimer about this being just opinions and "neither one of us is wrong" jazz, he flipped out on Craig for having Le Cellier as his #1 worse restaurant. Then Pete proceeded to use Craig's time for Craig to give his take on his choice and Pete used it to have a mini meltdown. On top of that, when Craig said he didn't know pizza room service could be included on this list, Pete used it as an opportunity to chastise and berate Craig on-air. The title of this episode even says, "2 Table Service RESTAURANTS". Call me crazy, but I and most people wouldn't consider pizza delivery to a hotel room as a "restaurant". I mean, HELLO??? So, I'm with Craig on this. I'm 51 years old and had mouth agape and was shocked at Pete's actions at the end. I've never personally seen him act like this on air to his employees in the years I've watched. Pete's the boss and Craig knew he had to roll with it and keep quiet. It wasn't Pete's opinions that were "wrong" (as some of you are misunderstanding in some of the posts I'm seeing). I actually agree with nearly everything Pete said. It's the attitude and way Pete handled it. I know many die-hards will hate what I'm saying, but I call them as I see them and let the chips fall where they may. Even though I like Pete, he was way, way out of line.
I didn't get the impression that Pete was "chastising and berating" Craig at all - he was just ribbing him a little bit. If you listen closely Pete gave Craig a list of all the 2-credit table service restaurants to choose from, and the pizza delivery was included on that list. So then Pete was giving a hard time saying "Somebody didn't come prepared". It was all in good fun. The only thing I think Pete did wrong was he rushed Craig's description of Le Cellier and had to jump in with his own opinion, and I think he did so prematurely without letting Craig finish. However that can happen to anyone in conversation, and I'm sure Pete would realize what he did after the fact. It wasn't that he was maliciously trying to cut off Craig from speaking and silence him. Pete is just eager to share his opinions and he may have jumped the gun that time.
@Brennan Lentz I think what makes the difference between "just ribbing" and "chastising and berating" is the way in which Craig reacted. He didn't laugh along with Pete; he tried to defend himself briefly but then just agreed in a "Yeah yeah yeah, okay" way, and then the look he gives at 21:01 really shows what he thought of that whole interaction. That's the face of a man holding his tongue because he can't retaliate against his boss.
I got a completely different impression. Craig was smiling when he said he wanted to change his list and Pete wouldn't let him, if I remember right. Also Craig is generally a pretty stern/stonefaced guy so just because he has a straight face doesn't mean he is pissed.
I guess you must know Pete because you're defending a man who continuously has that snobby Italian "I'm going to cut you off in conversation and I'm superior and rich and stick my nose up at your opinion" personality. Come on now, he's very conceited and thinks his shit don't stink and cuts people off 24/7. He's the type who doesn't take responsibility for what he says and thinks the rules don't apply. He thinks he knows everything.
They charge so much for the pizza because they know that sometimes people will have to pay it. If your child is ill for instance then one parent at least will have to stay in the room with them all night.
I honestly looove the Disney pizza (I like pretty much all pizza though, so that's not surprising haha), but TWO DINING PLAN CREDITS? what the heck Disney???
I think it's because it feeds multiple people. You wouldn't use 8 credits for 4 people You'd use 2 credits for 4 people. Subsequently, when I was there last, we had the mid dining plan, and then used 2 credits for the Spirit of Aloha, and then purchased (cash) a pizza for the room to not use dinner credits the night after.
Holy crap, I looked it up. You get ONE pizza, TWO individual nonalcoholic drinks (20 oz sodas?) and two ‘desserts’ for TWO TABLE SERVICE CREDITS! I was thinking it had to be at least 2-3 pizzas, considering all you get when you order ONE table service credit Ohana as room service.
Yeah we just had are family vacation and I saw that on my Disney dining credit pamphlet and I thought there were on crack for 2 dining credits for the pizza delivery. Yachtsman was amazing Craig lol
I couldn't agree more with you Pete on your #1. It used to be 2 counter service credits. When I came back and I saw it was 2 table services.........I laughed out loud in front of the cast member. 2 table credits for a cheap large pizza?.....NEVER!
I just got back from Disney World for THanksgiving 2017 and we went to "The Spirit of Aloha Show" for Thanksgiving day. It was NOT what I had expected. I could NOT agree with you guys more and I was terribly disappointed in the experience and that I WASTED two table credits on it!!! I wish I had seen this prior to our trip. Will NOT do again until they change it or improve!! Too to add another kick in the pants, I cancelled my "Ohana" reservation to free up the other table service credit..........I'm crying!!!
Since I live on the west coast I wouldn’t spend any credits on restaurants I have access to here like Wolfgang puck’s. They’re all over sol cal. I’d use them on places that can only be found on Disney property. Still haven’t been to Florida, but maybe someday.
I just LOL'd at Pete's #1!! As a fellow New Jersian who moved to PA, I still feel like I know good pizza. I've tried the pizza at QS locations at value resorts before & was So sorry I did each time (damn the late night food court menus!). So, I'm right there with you, Pete! But lesson learned now. When I found out it was 2 TS credits on the DDP, I was also appalled. But, I see that little pizza golf cart go around & around at night so people are buying it, unfortunately..and that is why they feel they have no reason to change it, I suppose.
Thank you Kevin, always love your helpful videos. Hands down agree with you. I had hoped things had changed with some of these locations. Two credits is ridiculous for Pizza. Planning my next trip for the summer. Have you reviewed the new locations at AK? Thanks again. Much love from Texas :-)
You know Pete is my favourite person on the show I love everybody else but I love Pete that bit more. However I agree with others Craig never got a chance to say why he didn't like his #1
Michael Lawrence I think Craig's main reason for Le Cellier at #1 was the same reason Yachtsman was on the list. Which is that in Craig's opinion there are better steaks on property and that Le Cellier is only 2 creds because there is a very high demand for it
I'm so glad that Pete mentioned the horrible pizza. Literally, my family and I still talk about the abomination that was the Disney pizza delivery. It should be lining the bottom of the ocean.
Thanks ABunches for saying that Mickey's Backyard Barbecue is TWO table service credits. I thought that it was ONE. My husband and I will stick to our original table service plans, when we talk to our Dreams Unlimited travel agent Mary Tesh on Tuesday.
For those of you who are just now watching this video, a quick update: Artist Point is no longer a two table service credit restaurant. It's now a character dinner with Snow White, Dopey, Grumpy and the Evil Queen and only one table service credit.
Hey guys, I love your show! As a first time Disney goer soon to return, I have a few questions. First, have you guys ever known a 2 table service credit restaurant to drop back down to a 1 table service credit? And secondly, with your number one spot of the horrible pizza delivery, can you as a guest staying on property order food off property from somewhere else in Orlando and have it delivered to your room? Just curious! Thanks for all the awesome tips and videos!
My kids loved Mickey's backyard bbq, and that made it worth it for us. But, it will be a one time event. Cinderella's Castle we do because my girls love the atmosphere. I 100% agree on the pizza delivery...
Pete's so right about pizza delivery. The worst thing about it is my kid sees that it is available and thinks it would be so exotic to have delivery at a hotel so he asks to do it every time.
I love the "dynamic" between the hosts!! And, Totally agree with the pizza thing!! I would hate to have them not banter and "agree" on everything....too boring!! Everyone has a different opinion, that's what makes these shows so amazing!!
I love the show. I am loathe to offer any criticism. That being said, I offer this suggestion for the future. Don't have people on these list shows who haven't actually eaten/experienced all of the options within a category. I recognize that these are opinions based and I still enjoyed the discussion, but I think we look to you all to be experts and beginning the discussion with a caveat that one of the participants isn't able to fully evaluate the category is an indication that he/she is in fact, NOT an expert in the category. Just my $0.02. Also, I still stand by my statement that I will become a patron for a regular Broadway discussion show.
Just when I thought I had my deluxe dining plan all figured out I will now change it lol thank you guys as always for your input , I trust your opinions the most when it comes to Disney dining!
If you haven't done this, Remember what Pete stated at the start. It's his opinion. Why are assuming it's bad?? Don't be a follower go and form your own opinion!!!
We stay at Ft. Wilderness and rarely dine outside of camp so this is a helpful list for us even though we don't use the dining plan. When we spend our $$$ I want to make sure its worth every dime. I'm with Pete, I can get some really good food anywhere, if I'm paying top dollar, I want the experience as well as great food.
I know I’m late to this party, but hard agree on the pizza delivery. Especially since last time we were at port orleans you could just walk over to the quick service and pick the same meal up for like $20.
I liked Spirit of Aloha. Got engaged there on stage years ago (marriage didn't work out... but none the less still enjoyed the experience). I think it's on my list next time I go as well... I enjoyed it.
I wanted to say that Mickey's Backyard BBQ is definitely a show for the kids IMO. Although the guy with the rope is really awesome. The food is definitely not up to par with Trail's End. However, you can get all inclusive beer, sangria, and wine at Mickey's so that's a nice touch. If you're at Fort Wilderness, I recommend going to Trail's End
I totally agree about the pizza! We had quick service dining and my kids each got a slice of pizza and I was NOT impressed! We had lunch at Pizzarizzo shortly after it opened and it wasn't better than we had at our resort! I've had better frozen pizzas! I couldn't imagine spending 2 table service credits on that! Maybe if you had credits to burn, but not on purpose!
Not on the meal plan but the delivery pizza at the Shades of Green is got to be worse. We ordered it and ate a slice and that was enough. I took a slice and dropped it off our balcony to the turkeys below. They took one peck and walked away. I guess turkeys aren't that stupid after all.
What a great episode! I was laughing so hard towards the end that you had me in tears! I'm a cheerfully nice punster who often just rolls with humor by acting non-plussed, but when it comes to human folly, it often really surprises me. ========== The last time That ~Le Cellier Steakhouse~ was 1 credit was back in 2010. I am not a big beef eater (nor am I a Beefeater either), so I didn't make reservations there. Instead, I went to the (then) new ~Via Napoli~ that was in its 3rd month and was really a busy madhouse. Sadly, ~Via Napoli~ struck out with me because (at that time) the red sauce they used on their pizza and lasagna looked perfect but had next to zero flavor. [No sweetness, acidy, any salt/herb/garlic..just BLAND.] I informed the server about the problem with the sauce on our respective meals. She went to talk to the chef and returned with the answer "It is our usual sauce". *BUZZZZZZZZZ* (Wrong answer!) I had better flavor from Domino's and Pizza Hut! This chef must not have tasted the sauce, it seemed like it was canned sauce that got heated and cooked, but never got seasoned. So disappointing. *** So I understand about bad pizza. [NOTE TO READERS: It's now years later and ~Via Napoli~ probably had either fixed the problem or it was a rushed oversight they had.] Sadly, this lovely place got a bad notation by all of us who dined that day. Hopefully (someday) they can redeem themselves with us. ========== Thanks so much Pete and Craig for the BEST show about "The Worst". Great fun and energy.
Thank Goodness Artist Point is now Storybook Dining with Snow White and great fun. They have been listening to complaints and the carrots are not all smoky now, for example. I had a very good dinner (1 Table Service Credit).
I agree with you guys about Artist Point. Amazing food, the service is meh. We as well had a very lengthy meal. However...our server did give us each a sample of the soup Craig mentioned for the wait which I thought was nice. Very dark in there, but a great atmosphere.
Ohhh my God! Pete, I couldn't agree more with you! 2 table services for a dry, cold, horrible frozen pizza it's a crime!! hahahahha love your show, guys
We went to Artist Point for the first time in October 2019. Personally I think it was one of the best places we ate at on that trip and my family agrees.
When I stopped over in the All Stars resort (movies), for the Not So Scary Halloween Party, I found the pizza after we came back from the MK park was very bland, not a lot of pizza sauce on, cheese was very stringy and greasy, I said to my mom - why would you wait thirty minutes for it (despite her saying she waited because they stopped everything and realised that my mom had made an order before they stopped making food!) and that was back in 2012
A little off subject from this video but, if you are employed at WDW do you have the option of choosing your desired placement. such as if you want to work at Thunder Mountain or on the Disney Railroad etc?
Very true about artist point we love the food there but we have had two not great experiences with the servers to the point that I don't think we will try there again.
i love everyone on the show ... i am so grateful for all the time this group puts into entertaining us and informing us! however i agree with Craig le cellier was the worst meal/experience we have had at WDW i do not know if we will go back... pete did kinda go at him a little hard this episode it was a tiny bit hard to watch HOWEVER i am pretty sure Craig can handle it! keep up the great work Dis Team i love everything you guys put out there thank you for all your hard work!!!
Do that many people really dislike Pete? I can't really see why. I like all of the cast. This was a good natured discussion with two people sharing their OPINIONS. They are allowed to disagree. Sure Pete gets passionate but at the end of it all he never holds anyone in contempt for their beliefs. I love it when Pete hosts, and if he seems like a dick it's because he keeps he crew on point. I hate it when he's away and John hosts, since it's always a free for all. Craig does a decent job when petes out but I always prefer he episodes when Pete is in. Keep up the good work
I have had some really bad service at the Yachtsman. Especially for the price that I was paying I was really disappointed. To the point on my last visit the server forgot our drinks TWICE then took my cutlery from my table to give to the table next to me. They sat us an hour and a half after our dining reservation and we had no apology and nobody kept us up to date with what was happening. I work in hospitality in the UK and I could not believe how poor the service was. I am giving it another time to redeem itself but I was so disappointed after here such good things about it. The food was good and worth giving it another shot but that was a big red card for the holiday.
Please do an update on this ❤️We are looking to do a lot of two credit restaurants when we go back but I don’t see many reviews except California Grill. Thanks, I value everyone’s opinion!
We do Le Cellier out of pocket when we go to DisneyWorld, after having a great experience there while on the dinning plan on our first trip. I always say there are other better steak houses on property (Flying Fish and Shula's), but the family has nostalgia memories from that first trip and refuse to budge. I'm out-voted. Maybe I'll get do do a Orlando tech conference one day, then I'll drag some tech peeps with me for a good steak dinner.
I never wanted to waste my credits on the pizza delivery to room. But hearing everyone hate it so much deride this I think part of me wants to try this pizza just to see how bad it is. However I am a New Yorker so the standard would be high already.
Not defending the pizza because it's definitely not the NYC pizza I am used to but two credits for a family of 4 is not the same as 8 for hoop de doo. It's not 2 credits per person. Also haven't you ever been tired and want to eat room service even in *gasp* your value resort? That said I'd probably pay cash over wasting two credits. Can't agree more about the spirit of aloha show. I've never been so bored! I went during free dining but still! I would have been pissed if it was a paid for dining plan.
Agree will agree with Craig on Le Cellier. Even when they were 1 credit I thought they were incredibly over rated. The one trip we ate there I had better steaks at Yachtsman and Sanaa..
2 table service credits = $120.00 p er person. The food needs to be excellent for me to send that much money. For that cash you can do Victoria & Alberts. I agree about Alisha but, all dinner shows are 2 credits.
Did not care for Artist Point either.I have eaten at Cinderella's Castle and really have enjoyed the food. When we were there in 2015 the food was good, not outstanding, but good. The character interaction is worth it, my wife had a really fabulous time and so did I! As for the Polynesian Luau I think you are so right, the food was ok but the show is way too long and way too similar from one country to the next! When we were there the steaks were good at Le Cellier. All I can say is what is even sadder is eating in your room when you can eat anywhere else, what the hell are you doing in the room!!Very nice atmosphere too. Love you guys, thank you so very much. Nice try Craig! Fabulous!!
Disagreeing with someone doesn't equal hate. I mean, please! He was out of line with the way he treated Criag on-air and Pete always struggles with opinions not his own. Can we say, maybe, the Pete is a "hater"? Or does the hatin' just go one way? lol.Though I love Pete and these shows, like the rest of us, he's not infallible. He was dead wrong here.
I generally agree with you Craig. But Le Cellier? The Worst? The food is delicious and service has been great as far as I know. Id have it on my best just because of how good of a deal it is. It's in my top 5 or at least top 6 or 7 signature places.
Ohanas is good especially for dinner but I thought the shrimp was bland. It needs some type of like spicy mango salsa or coconut. The sauces don't really do it for me.
I was extremely disappointed in Yachtsman--yeah, good meat, but the prep was so-so, the service was "Oh look how wonderful we are!" pushy, and I think when you consider all of the high-end great steakhouses in this nation, this place simply doesn't measure up.
We were disappointed with the spirit of Aloha . We enjoyed the show for what it was , we were really disappointed with the food. I had in the 90s been to a great similar show in SeaWorld the food and show was amazing , my fault for expecting same if not better quality from Disney. Thankfully we had also booked Hoop _ we were paying out of pocket and nearly didn't , so glad we did . 2 years on we fondly remember hoop, spirit of Aloha not so much. I pleased to hear that Ohana is nothing like spirit of Aloha, and I can't wait to try that on our next trip.
I really wish you guys had tried Hoop dee doo in the 70s. Exact same menu but was a million times better. Ribs are over processed now, chicken was much better and the beans were better quality. They used to serve corn instead of mashed potatoes.
Linda that's the neatest input I've read in this whole thread. With that being said, who the hell wants corn instead of mashed potatoes to go with chicken lol.
Love it when Pete goes off on a rant! Much funnier than the "best" shows. And probably more helpfull. Avoiding bad experiences is much more important when your vacation time is limited.
Enjoy the content everyone, don't hate on Pete. He's providing good entertainment/content on a weekly basis.
These are my favorite shows! 😁 Love the Pete and Craig dynamic - hilarious, while still being informative!
Disney World's room service delivery pizza must be as bad as ours in Disneyland. Absolutely horrible, worse than your average frozen pizza, on par with something you'd eat at an arcade. The only reason we ordered it last time was the torrential downpour and winds outside. Next time I'm donning a parka and walking my ass to Downtown Disney rather than eating that tomato-covered cardboard.
I love everything that is happening on this channel! Great job guys!
I know the pizza is bad, but it's two table credits for a pizza that could serve four people vs. taking four people to any signature restaurant for eight credits. If you're trying to conserve table service credits so that you can go to a signature restaurant, it's not a terrible idea (IMHO).
I agree. Plus, it's more of a convenience thing. After a long day, sometimes it's more efficient to have the pizza delivered to serve more people and save those credits.
Damn Tara you just dropped a bomb on my perception of that situation. Touche
I agree but it could be an even better add-on with the magical extras. marketing is not a strong suit in the dining dept.
It's still a rip off. Consider you can eat at places that cost almost 60 bucks a person with just 1 table service. That pizza is worth 15 bucks at most, plus drinks, no more than 25 bucks. It's still bad.
The food at Cinderella's Royal Table definitely isn't tasty enough to warrant the cost or two credits but the experience for children is worth it to do once. I have a picky eater in my family so for me there are very few places worth 2 credits since I know she'll order mac & cheese (shout out Steve!) but she loved the idea of being in the castle for that meal.
Pete's description of pizza is even better than his description of Tony's! Totally agree! Elementary school cafeteria pizza is better than Disney's version. How they can actually mess pizza up that bad is a mystery to me.
lol Pete I thought the same thing about delivery pizza. I never did it but wondered why it was 2 table service credits.
I want to see the Spirit of Aloha reimagined with Moana influences
Damn Pete, Let the kid talk!
Pete - I saw a Digiorno truck backed up near food service at Pop Century -so, that is probably what it is. However, if one pizza can feed a family who is overtired (children - you feed them, bathe them and put them to bed - your goal is accomplished). No one wants to eat anywhere where someone is having a meltdown. There is a purpose and reason for everything. If you can spend 2 credits for a family and accomplish your goal then winner winner.
19:12 - This is my favorite rant I've ever heard from Pete or anyone else on the disunplugged. Hilarious!!!
I love all the guys at DIS, especially Pete! Enjoyed the video!
I love this series so much!
I was wondering the reasons for Le Cellar too. The last time I was at Disney World was in '99 and that is one of the few meals I positively remember to this day. My husband had a maple salmon that was amazing and I tried to duplicate it for a long time until I figured it out. I'm Canadian on the West Coast and remember thinking it was weird to go there but it was exactly the type of food we were looking for. Florida food is so different when what we have over here on the West Coast of Canada. Anyway a lot can change in 18 years too, maybe there can be some follow up video with what Craig thought.
Pizza is like sex. It's hard to screw up. But I wouldn't pay 2 Table Service Credits for pizza or sex.
I've been watching this for years show for years. I really enjoy each cast member in different ways (except Kevin). This was a great episode........until the end. Pete really treated Craig like crap, lol. Really! After giving everyone this huge disclaimer about this being just opinions and "neither one of us is wrong" jazz, he flipped out on Craig for having Le Cellier as his #1 worse restaurant. Then Pete proceeded to use Craig's time for Craig to give his take on his choice and Pete used it to have a mini meltdown. On top of that, when Craig said he didn't know pizza room service could be included on this list, Pete used it as an opportunity to chastise and berate Craig on-air. The title of this episode even says, "2 Table Service RESTAURANTS". Call me crazy, but I and most people wouldn't consider pizza delivery to a hotel room as a "restaurant". I mean, HELLO??? So, I'm with Craig on this. I'm 51 years old and had mouth agape and was shocked at Pete's actions at the end. I've never personally seen him act like this on air to his employees in the years I've watched. Pete's the boss and Craig knew he had to roll with it and keep quiet. It wasn't Pete's opinions that were "wrong" (as some of you are misunderstanding in some of the posts I'm seeing). I actually agree with nearly everything Pete said. It's the attitude and way Pete handled it. I know many die-hards will hate what I'm saying, but I call them as I see them and let the chips fall where they may. Even though I like Pete, he was way, way out of line.
I didn't get the impression that Pete was "chastising and berating" Craig at all - he was just ribbing him a little bit. If you listen closely Pete gave Craig a list of all the 2-credit table service restaurants to choose from, and the pizza delivery was included on that list. So then Pete was giving a hard time saying "Somebody didn't come prepared". It was all in good fun. The only thing I think Pete did wrong was he rushed Craig's description of Le Cellier and had to jump in with his own opinion, and I think he did so prematurely without letting Craig finish. However that can happen to anyone in conversation, and I'm sure Pete would realize what he did after the fact. It wasn't that he was maliciously trying to cut off Craig from speaking and silence him. Pete is just eager to share his opinions and he may have jumped the gun that time.
@Brennan Lentz I think what makes the difference between "just ribbing" and "chastising and berating" is the way in which Craig reacted. He didn't laugh along with Pete; he tried to defend himself briefly but then just agreed in a "Yeah yeah yeah, okay" way, and then the look he gives at 21:01 really shows what he thought of that whole interaction. That's the face of a man holding his tongue because he can't retaliate against his boss.
I got a completely different impression. Craig was smiling when he said he wanted to change his list and Pete wouldn't let him, if I remember right. Also Craig is generally a pretty stern/stonefaced guy so just because he has a straight face doesn't mean he is pissed.
I guess you must know Pete because you're defending a man who continuously has that snobby Italian "I'm going to cut you off in conversation and I'm superior and rich and stick my nose up at your opinion" personality. Come on now, he's very conceited and thinks his shit don't stink and cuts people off 24/7. He's the type who doesn't take responsibility for what he says and thinks the rules don't apply. He thinks he knows everything.
I LOVE Pete's passion!!!!!😂
I don't believe they've done a list on the best and worst Disney hotels, I think that might be a fun one to do.
HarlequinKing96 I don't know if it's recent or not but they have now
Just go to Via Napoli twice if you want pizza!
IWillBeHers or call any local pizza place in the Orlando area and have it delivered
They charge so much for the pizza because they know that sometimes people will have to pay it. If your child is ill for instance then one parent at least will have to stay in the room with them all night.
I love your videos! Thank you very much for sharing your experiences with us
BEST VIDEO YOU GUYS HAVE MADE YET! Honestly sat here giggling out loud! Brilliant!
I honestly looove the Disney pizza (I like pretty much all pizza though, so that's not surprising haha), but TWO DINING PLAN CREDITS? what the heck Disney???
I honestly look forward to that cheap pizza as well lol.
Katie The Human I'd rather use a quick service at PizzaRizzo than two table service credits
I think it's because it feeds multiple people. You wouldn't use 8 credits for 4 people You'd use 2 credits for 4 people. Subsequently, when I was there last, we had the mid dining plan, and then used 2 credits for the Spirit of Aloha, and then purchased (cash) a pizza for the room to not use dinner credits the night after.
Holy crap, I looked it up. You get ONE pizza, TWO individual nonalcoholic drinks (20 oz sodas?) and two ‘desserts’ for TWO TABLE SERVICE CREDITS! I was thinking it had to be at least 2-3 pizzas, considering all you get when you order ONE table service credit Ohana as room service.
"Spirit of Meh." lmao!!
Awesome show, guys. Thanx for the discussion, and the laughs! :) :)
Yeah we just had are family vacation and I saw that on my Disney dining credit pamphlet and I thought there were on crack for 2 dining credits for the pizza delivery. Yachtsman was amazing Craig lol
Love you Pete! Your channel is so very helpful and interesting! Thank you!
Artist Point...one of my favorites...always consistent...great food...never dark. We might be eating at two different places. :)
I couldn't agree more with you Pete on your #1. It used to be 2 counter service credits. When I came back and I saw it was 2 table services.........I laughed out loud in front of the cast member. 2 table credits for a cheap large pizza?.....NEVER!
Right on! Didn't realize the pizza was two, however. Crazy! I would pass on that as well.
I just got back from Disney World for THanksgiving 2017 and we went to "The Spirit of Aloha Show" for Thanksgiving day. It was NOT what I had expected. I could NOT agree with you guys more and I was terribly disappointed in the experience and that I WASTED two table credits on it!!! I wish I had seen this prior to our trip. Will NOT do again until they change it or improve!!
Too to add another kick in the pants, I cancelled my "Ohana" reservation to free up the other table service credit..........I'm crying!!!
You guys are cracking me up! Thank you for the entertainment.
Loved the refence at the end "Say nay nay" John Pinette was a great comedian. Pete also would be great. Really enjoy these shows
Hahahah I could never wrap my head around the two table service credits in resorts either 🤣🤣 crazy
Since I live on the west coast I wouldn’t spend any credits on restaurants I have access to here like Wolfgang puck’s. They’re all over sol cal.
I’d use them on places that can only be found on Disney property. Still haven’t been to Florida, but maybe someday.
I just LOL'd at Pete's #1!! As a fellow New Jersian who moved to PA, I still feel like I know good pizza. I've tried the pizza at QS locations at value resorts before & was So sorry I did each time (damn the late night food court menus!). So, I'm right there with you, Pete! But lesson learned now. When I found out it was 2 TS credits on the DDP, I was also appalled. But, I see that little pizza golf cart go around & around at night so people are buying it, unfortunately..and that is why they feel they have no reason to change it, I suppose.
Thank you Kevin, always love your helpful videos. Hands down agree with you. I had hoped things had changed with some of these locations. Two credits is ridiculous for Pizza. Planning my next trip for the summer. Have you reviewed the new locations at AK? Thanks again. Much love from Texas :-)
You know Pete is my favourite person on the show I love everybody else but I love Pete that bit more. However I agree with others Craig never got a chance to say why he didn't like his #1
Michael Lawrence I think Craig's main reason for Le Cellier at #1 was the same reason Yachtsman was on the list. Which is that in Craig's opinion there are better steaks on property and that Le Cellier is only 2 creds because there is a very high demand for it
I'm so glad that Pete mentioned the horrible pizza. Literally, my family and I still talk about the abomination that was the Disney pizza delivery. It should be lining the bottom of the ocean.
Thanks ABunches for saying that Mickey's Backyard Barbecue is TWO table service credits. I thought that it was ONE. My husband and I will stick to our original table service plans, when we talk to our Dreams Unlimited travel agent Mary Tesh on Tuesday.
For those of you who are just now watching this video, a quick update: Artist Point is no longer a two table service credit restaurant. It's now a character dinner with Snow White, Dopey, Grumpy and the Evil Queen and only one table service credit.
Hey guys, I love your show! As a first time Disney goer soon to return, I have a few questions. First, have you guys ever known a 2 table service credit restaurant to drop back down to a 1 table service credit? And secondly, with your number one spot of the horrible pizza delivery, can you as a guest staying on property order food off property from somewhere else in Orlando and have it delivered to your room? Just curious! Thanks for all the awesome tips and videos!
My kids loved Mickey's backyard bbq, and that made it worth it for us. But, it will be a one time event. Cinderella's Castle we do because my girls love the atmosphere. I 100% agree on the pizza delivery...
Bahahahah, I was on the edge of my seat waiting for Pete to drop that F bomb about the pizza delivery...alas!!
nay nay Craig!
Pete's so right about pizza delivery. The worst thing about it is my kid sees that it is available and thinks it would be so exotic to have delivery at a hotel so he asks to do it every time.
I love the "dynamic" between the hosts!! And, Totally agree with the pizza thing!! I would hate to have them not banter and "agree" on everything....too boring!! Everyone has a different opinion, that's what makes these shows so amazing!!
Thanks for the review I don't do the dining plan because I don't eat enough LOL
I love the show. I am loathe to offer any criticism. That being said, I offer this suggestion for the future. Don't have people on these list shows who haven't actually eaten/experienced all of the options within a category. I recognize that these are opinions based and I still enjoyed the discussion, but I think we look to you all to be experts and beginning the discussion with a caveat that one of the participants isn't able to fully evaluate the category is an indication that he/she is in fact, NOT an expert in the category. Just my $0.02. Also, I still stand by my statement that I will become a patron for a regular Broadway discussion show.
Just when I thought I had my deluxe dining plan all figured out I will now change it lol thank you guys as always for your input , I trust your opinions the most when it comes to Disney dining!
That is such a shame that Spirit of Aloha is so bad
I agree! We went once. I thought the show was just okay, and the food was terrible. Oh well!
If you haven't done this, Remember what Pete stated at the start. It's his opinion. Why are assuming it's bad?? Don't be a follower go and form your own opinion!!!
Mark I'm not forming an opinion. But I've heard from various sources it's bad so it's disappointing from that aspect.
I have done it and it was a snooze fest.
I did this last year. I thought the food was pretty good, so I disagree with Pete on that. But the show was mostly boring in my opinion.
We stay at Ft. Wilderness and rarely dine outside of camp so this is a helpful list for us even though we don't use the dining plan. When we spend our $$$ I want to make sure its worth every dime. I'm with Pete, I can get some really good food anywhere, if I'm paying top dollar, I want the experience as well as great food.
I know I’m late to this party, but hard agree on the pizza delivery. Especially since last time we were at port orleans you could just walk over to the quick service and pick the same meal up for like $20.
I liked Spirit of Aloha. Got engaged there on stage years ago (marriage didn't work out... but none the less still enjoyed the experience). I think it's on my list next time I go as well... I enjoyed it.
I wanted to say that Mickey's Backyard BBQ is definitely a show for the kids IMO. Although the guy with the rope is really awesome. The food is definitely not up to par with Trail's End. However, you can get all inclusive beer, sangria, and wine at Mickey's so that's a nice touch. If you're at Fort Wilderness, I recommend going to Trail's End
I totally agree about the pizza! We had quick service dining and my kids each got a slice of pizza and I was NOT impressed! We had lunch at Pizzarizzo shortly after it opened and it wasn't better than we had at our resort! I've had better frozen pizzas! I couldn't imagine spending 2 table service credits on that! Maybe if you had credits to burn, but not on purpose!
Not on the meal plan but the delivery pizza at the Shades of Green is got to be worse. We ordered it and ate a slice and that was enough. I took a slice and dropped it off our balcony to the turkeys below. They took one peck and walked away. I guess turkeys aren't that stupid after all.
What a great episode! I was laughing so hard towards the end that you had me in tears! I'm a cheerfully nice punster who often just rolls with humor by acting non-plussed, but when it comes to human folly, it often really surprises me.
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The last time That ~Le Cellier Steakhouse~ was 1 credit was back in 2010. I am not a big beef eater (nor am I a Beefeater either), so I didn't make reservations there. Instead, I went to the (then) new ~Via Napoli~ that was in its 3rd month and was really a busy madhouse. Sadly, ~Via Napoli~ struck out with me because (at that time) the red sauce they used on their pizza and lasagna looked perfect but had next to zero flavor. [No sweetness, acidy, any salt/herb/garlic..just BLAND.] I informed the server about the problem with the sauce on our respective meals. She went to talk to the chef and returned with the answer "It is our usual sauce". *BUZZZZZZZZZ* (Wrong answer!) I had better flavor from Domino's and Pizza Hut! This chef must not have tasted the sauce, it seemed like it was canned sauce that got heated and cooked, but never got seasoned. So disappointing.
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So I understand about bad pizza. [NOTE TO READERS: It's now years later and ~Via Napoli~ probably had either fixed the problem or it was a rushed oversight they had.] Sadly, this lovely place got a bad notation by all of us who dined that day. Hopefully (someday) they can redeem themselves with us.
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Thanks so much Pete and Craig for the BEST show about "The Worst". Great fun and energy.
Thank Goodness Artist Point is now Storybook Dining with Snow White and great fun. They have been listening to complaints and the carrots are not all smoky now, for example. I had a very good dinner (1 Table Service Credit).
I love the content. very informative.
I agree with you guys about Artist Point. Amazing food, the service is meh. We as well had a very lengthy meal. However...our server did give us each a sample of the soup Craig mentioned for the wait which I thought was nice. Very dark in there, but a great atmosphere.
I agree with Le cellier
Great #1!!! We were starving in the rain at the campgrounds and just paid out of pocket because the restaurant was closed.
Ohhh my God! Pete, I couldn't agree more with you! 2 table services for a dry, cold, horrible frozen pizza it's a crime!! hahahahha love your show, guys
"they should give you this pizza with an apology note"-true
We went to Artist Point for the first time in October 2019. Personally I think it was one of the best places we ate at on that trip and my family agrees.
When I stopped over in the All Stars resort (movies), for the Not So Scary Halloween Party, I found the pizza after we came back from the MK park was very bland, not a lot of pizza sauce on, cheese was very stringy and greasy, I said to my mom - why would you wait thirty minutes for it (despite her saying she waited because they stopped everything and realised that my mom had made an order before they stopped making food!) and that was back in 2012
If it were possible, I think that Pete would go to Fort Wilderness and relieve himself on the former spot of Mickey's Backyard BBQ
A little off subject from this video but, if you are employed at WDW do you have the option of choosing your desired placement. such as if you want to work at Thunder Mountain or on the Disney Railroad etc?
Had no idea pizza delivery is 2 Table Svc credits! Craziness!!
Love you two, and totally agree with Craig's #1 Le Cellier... We've nicknamed it the cellar
Very true about artist point we love the food there but we have had two not great experiences with the servers to the point that I don't think we will try there again.
i love everyone on the show ... i am so grateful for all the time this group puts into entertaining us and informing us! however i agree with Craig le cellier was the worst meal/experience we have had at WDW i do not know if we will go back... pete did kinda go at him a little hard this episode it was a tiny bit hard to watch HOWEVER i am pretty sure Craig can handle it! keep up the great work Dis Team i love everything you guys put out there thank you for all your hard work!!!
How much pizza do you get for 2 table service credits? If you can feed your whole family for 2 credits then that makes more sense than 2 per person.
Do that many people really dislike Pete? I can't really see why. I like all of the cast. This was a good natured discussion with two people sharing their OPINIONS. They are allowed to disagree. Sure Pete gets passionate but at the end of it all he never holds anyone in contempt for their beliefs. I love it when Pete hosts, and if he seems like a dick it's because he keeps he crew on point. I hate it when he's away and John hosts, since it's always a free for all. Craig does a decent job when petes out but I always prefer he episodes when Pete is in. Keep up the good work
He cuts people off, acts superior and when he is in the wrong he never or rarely apologizes. The snobby Italian stereotype is real.
but think too, that is two credits for a family of four. Not two for each person, so think of it in a value that way on the pizza
#1 Le Cellier? I love that Pete just cut him off because it was such a horrendous choice
I have had some really bad service at the Yachtsman. Especially for the price that I was paying I was really disappointed. To the point on my last visit the server forgot our drinks TWICE then took my cutlery from my table to give to the table next to me. They sat us an hour and a half after our dining reservation and we had no apology and nobody kept us up to date with what was happening. I work in hospitality in the UK and I could not believe how poor the service was. I am giving it another time to redeem itself but I was so disappointed after here such good things about it. The food was good and worth giving it another shot but that was a big red card for the holiday.
Please do an update on this ❤️We are looking to do a lot of two credit restaurants when we go back but I don’t see many reviews except California Grill. Thanks, I value everyone’s opinion!
We do Le Cellier out of pocket when we go to DisneyWorld, after having a great experience there while on the dinning plan on our first trip. I always say there are other better steak houses on property (Flying Fish and Shula's), but the family has nostalgia memories from that first trip and refuse to budge. I'm out-voted. Maybe I'll get do do a Orlando tech conference one day, then I'll drag some tech peeps with me for a good steak dinner.
2 table service credits for a hotel pizza? disney regular and I've never even noticed that
I never wanted to waste my credits on the pizza delivery to room. But hearing everyone hate it so much deride this I think part of me wants to try this pizza just to see how bad it is. However I am a New Yorker so the standard would be high already.
Not defending the pizza because it's definitely not the NYC pizza I am used to but two credits for a family of 4 is not the same as 8 for hoop de doo. It's not 2 credits per person. Also haven't you ever been tired and want to eat room service even in *gasp* your value resort? That said I'd probably pay cash over wasting two credits. Can't agree more about the spirit of aloha show. I've never been so bored! I went during free dining but still! I would have been pissed if it was a paid for dining plan.
Craig sporting the Reds gear! Hello from Cincinnati!!
Agree will agree with Craig on Le Cellier. Even when they were 1 credit I thought they were incredibly over rated. The one trip we ate there I had better steaks at Yachtsman and Sanaa..
Agree with LeCellier. We've eaten there twice and the last visit was not good. Steak was TOUGH.
2 table service credits = $120.00 p er person. The food needs to be excellent for me to send that much money. For that cash you can do Victoria & Alberts. I agree about Alisha but, all dinner shows are 2 credits.
Did not care for Artist Point either.I have eaten at Cinderella's Castle and really have enjoyed the food. When we were there in 2015 the food was good, not outstanding, but good. The character interaction is worth it, my wife had a really fabulous time and so did I! As for the Polynesian Luau I think you are so right, the food was ok but the show is way too long and way too similar from one country to the next! When we were there the steaks were good at Le Cellier. All I can say is what is even sadder is eating in your room when you can eat anywhere else, what the hell are you doing in the room!!Very nice atmosphere too. Love you guys, thank you so very much. Nice try Craig! Fabulous!!
Wow....why so many Pete Werner haters in the comments section?! Don't worry Pete, they just don't understand your fabulousness!. #Hatersgonnahate
He's a cranky queen. #Unsubscribed
James League-Pascual at first I didn't like him then I gave him a chance he's cool now
Disagreeing with someone doesn't equal hate. I mean, please! He was out of line with the way he treated Criag on-air and Pete always struggles with opinions not his own. Can we say, maybe, the Pete is a "hater"? Or does the hatin' just go one way? lol.Though I love Pete and these shows, like the rest of us, he's not infallible. He was dead wrong here.
I agree Pete is grossly misunderstood.
I like Pete... just wish he’d take a breath and let other people talk
If you need a mom's opinion I'm local and I used to be cast member. love they show!
I generally agree with you Craig. But Le Cellier? The Worst? The food is delicious and service has been great as far as I know. Id have it on my best just because of how good of a deal it is. It's in my top 5 or at least top 6 or 7 signature places.
Ohanas is good especially for dinner but I thought the shrimp was bland. It needs some type of like spicy mango salsa or coconut. The sauces don't really do it for me.
Craig I completely agree with your #1 - Never again!
I was extremely disappointed in Yachtsman--yeah, good meat, but the prep was so-so, the service was "Oh look how wonderful we are!" pushy, and I think when you consider all of the high-end great steakhouses in this nation, this place simply doesn't measure up.
I was able to enjoy Spirit of Aloha with an ap discount for $50 per person. I enjoyed the food, but I don't think I would do it again.
The worst is Morimoto for dinner. They have essentially the same menu at lunch for 1 credit. Makes no sense.
Didn't Pete put Yachtsman's as #2 on his all time best list?
We were disappointed with the spirit of Aloha . We enjoyed the show for what it was , we were really disappointed with the food. I had in the 90s been to a great similar show in SeaWorld the food and show was amazing , my fault for expecting same if not better quality from Disney. Thankfully we had also booked Hoop _ we were paying out of pocket and nearly didn't , so glad we did . 2 years on we fondly remember hoop, spirit of Aloha not so much. I pleased to hear that Ohana is nothing like spirit of Aloha, and I can't wait to try that on our next trip.
I really wish you guys had tried Hoop dee doo in the 70s. Exact same menu but was a million times better. Ribs are over processed now, chicken was much better and the beans were better quality. They used to serve corn instead of mashed potatoes.
Linda that's the neatest input I've read in this whole thread. With that being said, who the hell wants corn instead of mashed potatoes to go with chicken lol.
Tyler Ross Well I was only stating that as a change in the menu. Not necessarily better or worse but btw the corn was delicious.
My first trip to Disneyland I was amazed at how many people preferred corn on the cob to other snacks so guess that would actually be a wise choice.
You guys are amazing I hope I get to meet you guys in 2021 when I go to Walt Disney World keep making these videos they are so entertaining
Isnt the pizza delivery 2 counter service credits?