4 Clever Ethernet Cable Hacks
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Even though wireless technology is making ethernet cables obsolete, let's take a look at some ways to breathe new life into these technological wonders.
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Not obsolete yet. Ethernet is more secure, faster, and for some people: fun to set up. Seriously, the click of plugging Ethernet in is orgasmic.
omg the clic man.
I hate wifi lag when gaming :C
Phamtom y wayne I don't get much WiFi lag, but I guess that is just me. I just hate the significantly lower speeds.
Nic nonymous Ping is latency
Well put. I needed to replace my wifi adapter since it was giving me loading issues, so I just hardwired my computer to the router instead. More secure, reliable, fast, and of course just that feeling and sound of the click.
"the click of plugging Ethernet in is orgasmic"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA so true :D
The claim that an Ethernet cable will work so long as the wires match on both ends is incorrect. If signal pairs are not mapped to twisted pairs, the cable will almost definitely not work at gigabit speeds and frequently not even work at fast ethernet speeds.
There's a lot of other nonsense in here. I'm surprised this has so many upvotes relative to its downvotes.
David Schwartz well he did say that in a gigabit conection it uses the 8 cables. and i dont see why they need to be with the twisted pairs if they match the data goes to werever it needs to go, maybe you are refering to interference as chaging the the transit (not english native) of data can posible create a interference, theres a reason wy etherenet is mapped as it is but it should work
MichaelKingsfordGray
MichaelKingsfordGray you said the same as me but more tecnical words,
Hnnryyb Once, when crimping an Ethernet cable, I messed up the order of the wires (viewed from bottom left to right I went OW, O, GW, G, BlW, Bl, BrW, Br instead of OW, O, GW, Bl, BlW, G, BrW, Br) and the cable didn't work. Well it worked with some network cards, but with most it did not. The pairs do matter.
MichaelKingsfordGray Is there some standard for color abbreviations or are those the abbreviations _you_ use?
If you ever worked on server networking, I feel Ethernet is far from obsolete.
exactly what I was thinking
I`d rather say it is with us for next couple hundreds of years not less.
It's still far from obsolete, using ethernet on my desktop literally doubled my download speed
Not even close.
Same here. My wireless connection was crap, thank goodness for Ethernet connections.
2013: “these are almost legacy, so hack them for good use”
Data technician in 2020: “...what?”
2021: Still try to use as much ethernet despite the noodly mess cables make
ethernet cables rock
Wired > Wireless
The Beast But wireless doesn't need cables...
Ponto Edu but wired has way less interference...
Ponto Edu wireless is slower, less reliable, much more prone to interference and most importantly, much more vulnerable to attacks. i would never trade my wired lan on my desktop for wireless. though i don't even bother connecting cables on my laptop unless i have to do some huge file transfer that would take 10 minutes or more over wireless (it's about 10 times as fast over a wired connection)
***** but wireless means u can use internet in mcdonalds D:
ScЯubbles™
if that's it's biggest upside it makes it worthless to me :p i freaking hate mcdonalds.
seriously though. wifi is great. but my desktop computers are always going to be wired. everything else can be wireless no problem.
This video is full of misinformation.
Not watching the video again, but here are a few things I noticed that were not true/are no longer applicable.
#1 T568A (the pattern you showed in your video) is not standard (although it is a standard). Most networks use T568B.
#2 The CAT specification has nothing to do with "insulation". It refers to how the individual pairs are twisted and to what extent the pairs are all twisted together in an effort to reduce crosstalk and interference along the wire. When it comes to "insulation", you have UTP (unshielded twisted pair) and STP (shielded twisted pair), not CAT specifications.
#3 Crossover cables are not really a thing anymore/really don't need to be used. Almost all NICs are auto-negotiating and can automatically adjust to the cable type. The only exception would be if you are hooking up some old style Cisco ASAs to each other that you found in an attic somewhere. Not really wrong, but this is no longer applicable.
#4 Its not smart to use the extra pairs for USB. USB 2.0 specs limit their maximum distance to 5 meters (16' 9"). This is not including the possible interference it can pick up from the other wires. So you would end up shortening the distance that the USB would be able to run and you would make the signaling unstable as well as doing the exact same thing to the actual network communication on the cable. Not a good idea.
#5 No, Ethernet cables are not going out and we don't need to bid them farewell. Go to ANY server farm or ANY datacenter and you tell me what they are using to connect their servers with. Yes, fiber is arguably a better option, but there are still pricing issues with the cable and with the special NICs that would need to be installed. What do you use to hook up your modem to your router? What do most businesses use to hook up their workstations? Especially in Banks or Medical Billing Centers where security is an issue? It's not wireless! It's not Fiber. It's Ethernet. Good ole unshielded, CAT5e, T568B Ethernet.
#6 Most telephone cable that I have seen contain either 2 or 4 individual wires. Not 6.
#7 It's not a good idea to be informing people how to run electricity through your existing cables when PoE injectors can be picked up for $15 on Amazon. Not only is it dangerous, but it can also interfere with the signaling on the other wires which would make the connection unstable and slow if done incorrectly/improperly.
Cody Crowder
YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH! THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!
Cody Crowder fully agree with you on all counts. But especially on running power on them. Jesus that is completely insane.
Don't know where you are from but here in Australia you never use T568B, everything is should be wired as T568A.
I'm a Controls Engineer and I use a crossover cable every day. But it's more of a standard for me rather than a hack. Definitely still applicable though.
Exactly what I was gonna say 😊
Making a crossover cable is a hack? No. That's another standard completely. This video honestly made me cringe a little bit, and it didn't seem like the narrator has any more knowledge than somebody who did some Googling for a couple of hours.
Also, that USB method makes absolutely no sense. He didn't explain what that interface attached to the cable was, or why the cable was still ethernet on both ends. That "hack" is obviously bullshit and I'm surprised nobody else has commented about it.
I must agree. I've had bad experiences with usb extension cables, the signal gets really bad after a couple of meters. (+10) I really wouldn't suggest modding the usb cable for this purpose.
Sounds weird but a crossover cable is in fact not standard.
ppdan In my COMPTIA A+ exam guide the crossover cable is a standard for the tests.
joshua coovert When I did my CCNA it was considered a none standard cable. Normally you are supposed to always connect a MDI with a MDI-X. For example connecting two MDI with a cross-cable is a non-standard connection.
ppdan I see, I apologize for assuming that standard meant readily taught or common knowledge. To defend your point further I provided a quote from Wikipedia below. "Owing to the inclusion of Auto MDI-X capability, modern implementations of the Ethernet over twisted pair standards no longer require the use of crossover cables." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
3 years later and Ethernet is still not obsolete by any means because if the superior speed
In my town ethernet is being replaced left and right by Fiber...because of superior speed.
Tinkernut thats not how it works
Fiber also uses ethernet
Also the 2 networks on one networkcard does not work and might break things
jerseycitysteetfrithg
Still faster and more reliable than Wi Fi (and more secure)
@@billcobbett9259 yep :D! But author is right, soon speed will be so fast that it will be just easier to live off wireless. OK PC are another thing, but Hand held devices its not really worth do anyting bigger say 500dpi un screen so pretty much you could get away with some kind of 2k resultion, which could be like up to 50Mbits mostly. I mean if technology could be good enough to guarantee ANYWERE super stable 20/20Mbit, most people would be more then happy.
Wired ethernet is far from obsolete, and in some environments is the only reliable way to provide LAN connectivity to computers.
In my home I have wired ethernet for all the static devices (routers and desktop/tower PCs) plus WiFi for mobile ones. This IMHO is the best Ethernet setup.
I agree, in my house we only have wireless to our devices since we got Fiber internet, but starting on friday we're wireing Cat5e cable to 3 rooms in our house to get the full speed while its stable. Cant wait, much more reliable, faster and stable than wireless
Anton Wikström Why not Cat6?
Alasdair Nicoll
Because we get the Cat5e cable for free so we decided to save some money and not go Cat6
Alasdair Nicoll
cat5e is enough for gigabit. cat6 is thicker and you cant easily put a jack on it.
Sorry then the only cat6 cable I handled was much thicker with every single wire shielded, then every pair shielded and with a separator - it was much thicker than the standard cat5 I use all the time - and you could'nt crimp a standard RJ-45 (you had to use socket).
Today I learned that a crossover cable is a "hack" - WOW!!
Railgap Esoterica A crossover cable isn't a hack. A hack is modding something to use it for something other than it's intended purpose, which is what I did. Troll much?
Tinkernut Um, what? all of your Hack #1 is using a crossover cable for its intended purpose? What did you do that is missing? Has the video been edited? Where is "modding something to use it for etc" you claim to have done? Trollololol, sure, whatev, kid. If you don't like being called out, don't do things that cause it to happen.
Tinkernut Did you actually understand the nature of the sarcasm in the original comment? I'm suggesting that there is no hack in Hack #1. Using a crossover cable is routine. Terminating ethernet cables is routine. Making a crossover or direct cable, is routine. Where is the Hack? How is that simple question a troll? Don't be defensive, either answer the question or take your criticism (once you finally understand what the criticism is) and treat it as a learning experience.
Railgap Esoterica Wow. Rage much? Taking a regular Cat5 cable and swapping the wires to make it a crossover cable, therefore modding the original cable, qualifying it as a hack in its most basic definition (I can see you use a different definition). Also, it's a little awkward when you take two overly-defensive replies to tell me not to be defensive.
Tinkernut There's no need to even defend crossover cables as a hack, you hacked PoE into a system without actually having standard PoE equipment, you also displayed using USB through an ethernet cable. These are most assuredly hacks.
some of the historical facts are a just a little wrong. serial cables and null modem cables were used to move files long before sneaker net. There was one vendor that used the parallel port to move data between computers. There were many other network protocols before TCP. Token Ring for one. DecNet for another.
+Richard Bucker Good old coax and ipx spx as well, perfect for low budget lan party .
+Richard Bucker And modems were used long before TCP (and network cards) came into existence.
+Richard Bucker correct.. there were so many inaccuracies in this video i lost count halfway through.. after a couple minutes I kept watching just to see how many time he could fuck up.. obviously more interested in showing his knowledge (or lack thereof) than to actually do some simple research and show real facts.. typical liberal democrat.. hillary supporter i'm sure.. fukkin millennials.. dumber than a bag of hammers
+Richard Bucker I remember having to use XTree Gold with a parallel cable to back up files from a PC with a dead OS. Good times !!
+Richard Bucker
Networks existed even before the RS-232 standard was finalized.
The Sage system one of the first.
Ethernet cables are still faster than Wi-Fi
microwave networks are point to point therefore not exactly practical.
Depends on the router
Define "practical"? It's a lot more practical when you actually need to reduce routing latency.
they will always be. The medium of transmission determines it all....
Hudson Ball is
hack is an over used word
"Retro" "Obsolete" What? Are you mad. Ethernet is by far better than WiFi.
So much more opportunities with hackers as well.
Ethernet master race
Rob Berry he never said anything about WiFi being better. And yes ethernet is retro and old. Wireless is more convenient to use.
Dave0551 To you maybe, but to everyone who has some knowledge about the Internet use wired.
dude how is ethernet old to me. Im not saying it being better or worse I'm just saying it is older than wifi its a fucking fact not just my opinion. It may be better but saying its old is not wrong.
Dave0551 you realize your WiFi is actually ethernet? Just because your ethernet uses a wireless layer 1 transport doesn't mean that it lacks ethernet framing.
There's a reason it's called wireless ethernet.
1:11 - Telephone cables can have as few as 2 wires. Telephones only need 2 wires to run.
1:19 - Yes, it will work over short distances if the colour arrangement matches on each end, but if you aren't using twisted pairs for channels (eg rx+ is blue and rx- is brown), then it's going to work poorly over distance, or if the cable goes anywhere near power cables or power outlets.
1:39 - The Category rating specifically relates to what speed the cables are rated to handle, and is not directly related to shielding. The kind of shielding is stated on the cable sheath. UTP is Unshielded Twisted Pairs, for example.
2:17 - (Hack 1) This isn't a hack. It's a standard wiring configuration, and is available off the shelf in most computer stores. It is only required if your computer doesn't have an auto-sensing ethernet card.
3:10 - (Hack 2) Professionally manufactured parts to do this are available on eBay.
3:21 - No, you're still going to need a card for each plug.
3:34 - Looks sweet, but is utterly useless unless you break out the other end the same way (2 plugs at each end of the cable)
Here's my main problem with hack 2: *you've completely failed to mention the most powerful use of this hack.*
Got a room with one network plug in the wall, but you have 2 network devices? Plug this Y splitter into both wall plugs. Plug both ends into your switch or router at one end, and the plugs into your 2 network devices in the other room. Instant 2nd plug!
3:46 - It might make the network slower and less reliable for the devices *connected to that cable*, but it should not affect the internet connection itself - all other devices on the modem (cabled and wireless) should not experience degradation.
4:05 - (Hack 3)I don't know that this is a "perfect" example. The maximum distance for USB data is 5m with a certified USB cable. If the cable run is longer than that, you will need powered USB hubs every 5m to act as signal regenerators and power supplies. Who knows how far this will work in ethernet cable, which isn't made to work like that.
4:40 - (Hack 4) Again, this "hack" can be done (and done more safely) with off the shelf parts, as it is a standard use for ethernet cable (again), and not an actual hack.
Now here's an actual hack that you've missed, and is pretty useful in some situations:
*Hack 5*
Telephones usually only use the 2 middle wires of a cable, and the plugs from phone wires (RJ11 and RJ12) fit in RJ45 sockets, so you can use ethernet wiring to put your analog phone wherever there's an ethernet plug. Better: as mentioned in the video, 100baseT doesn't use the middle (blue) pair of wires. Therefore, you can run both phone *and* ethernet on the same RJ45 plug at the same time by breaking out the blue wires and putting in a phone plug.
Obsolete? Ethernet cable is still my preferred method for connection for my home and work networks.
Hack #1 is not a hack at all, I've got a store bought crossover cable I've had for more than 10 years.
Now 10Gbs is comming into the SOHO
For primary consumers where they rely solely on wireless Ethernet cables do not concern them
+MarshallJukov wow..for SMALL business? Isn't that overkill?
+Domagoj Barlović Modern media content surpassed limits of 1Gbs bandwidth years ago.
Did it? Have 4K streams become common years ago? Methinks not.
1080p doesn't usually go over 40Mbps at worst. Of course you could be sending it completely uncompressed and then you would need over 1Gbps.
Oh god, please, no, this is terrible. By running anything else through an ethernet cable you're just going to add disgusting amounts of interference and ruin your signal. Just don't do this. Separate cables, proper shielding, every time.
RIIIIIGHT and POE is useless too?
POE is a very common thing in businesses and Enterprise settings.
Uh... How can an Ethernet cable be obsolete? Your wireless router needs to get it's internet from *somewhere*...
WiFi....defeated by the common household microwave oven.
5 ghz isn't, but there are still other things on 5 ghz than can interfere with wifi.
5 Ghz defeated by walls due to shorter wavelength
Mistah Young I want sub 100Mhz wifi
Baka Oppai you realize you'll be hearing that as a hum wirelessly.
Mistah Young if that was true I'd pick up FM radio in my anus too?
PLEASE STOP THAT PING NOISE
OMG
You mean that Super Mario sound??
ya kinda loud
STOP THE HAMMERING
I still use an Ethernet cable when I live stream.... It gives me a much more stable connection... I think quite a lot of people still use Ethernet cables.
Wired connections obsolete? You mean computers and electricity are obsolete. And air.
+Carl Saberhagen air?
+Stijn Weijters
He's trying to make a point by being extremely sarcastic. You should try to learn about sarcasm sometime!
Maxx Fordham i was sarastic.... what is air?
Well it sounded like you didn't get what he was already doing with sarcasm, Stijn Weijters. But yeah, heh, if you had asked *this* instead, then it would sound like you were just continuing the chain of joking sarcasm. :-)
Maxx Fordham :P
Sendoff? Sorry, as convenient as wireless is, wired ethernet is not going anywhere anytime soon.
Jason Rasmussen true but you cannot send power over it
aR Bemo But why would you send power over it? We are talking about internet speeds not recharging the fucking computer. That is a poor fucking argument.
aR Bemo You can send power over copper cable. I currently do this myself.
aR Bemo oh ok. yes yes amazing. wow.
aR Bemo actually, you can. POE (Power Over Ethernet) comes with most modern good routers.
crossover cables are useless these days. all interfaces made in the last 10 years will sense the reversed condition and correct for it.
Phil Hord don’t comment on topics you don’t have knowledge of.
@@vargas0033 But he's essentially correct. Auto MDIX
Correction here. At least 15 years.
While every router and switch that I have used in the past 5 years, I have seen sites that used very old switches that did not have Auto MDIX. Also, this video discusses connecting to computers and I have yet to see an ethernet port on a computer capable of that.
@@GregInHouston2 You only need it on one end. The other end, unless it's an antiquated system, will be a switch port with Auto MDIX.
Obsolete? It's still in use and still being developed just the same as wifi! You can get 100m of cat6 cable at once and that will get you much further and much faster than Wifi. You just cannot replace wired connections with wireless ones, because the wired connections will always be superior. We have 10 gigabit ethernet now.
I see you reasoning but who cares with Comcast metering down my connection speed to a trickle anyway. They are the worst company that I have ever dealt with. At least I have cut the cable cord with them. As soon as another internet option is available I'll take it.
KemoKa77 I didn't say wired connections would be replaced. I said ethernet cables would. Fiber optic is far superior to ethernet.
Stopped watching after "doesn't matter what order the colors are as long as they are the same on both ends"
+Marty G The video author has clearly never encountered split pairs before....
+Marty G I know right? Cringe...
+Marty G I was literally just gonna say that....
+Marty G Yeah I liked that he used the A standard rather than B but I also had the same thought... Why twist the pairs in the first place if you aren't going to use the twists!
My other thought while watching, and I'm pretty sure this was true in 2013, modern ethernet devices will auto switch to crossover and that cable is pretty much obsolete in this day and age, isn't it?
Also, and this didn't matter as much in 2013 but more and more people are using ethernet these days are using gigabit switches, so none of these hacks are really any good now anyway!
+Metal Monkey most all modern equipment is auto sensing and a straight through will work just fine
The info in this video ranges from useless via wrong to downright dangerous!
Why
"Even though wireless technology is making ethernet cables obsolete,"
Closed the video and blocked ever seeing this channel again lol
And I just did the same
How do you block channels??? There's several I want to never ever see again that show up in my "recommended".
*****
When on the startpage, click the tree dots next to the thumbnails name, choose "not interested" and then choose not interested in the channel.
PanikGrafik it made me mad too. This is stupidest thing he said in the whole video. Fortunately the rest of the video was quite good. :)
I'm making wireless obsolete in my house. Wiring Cat6 now. Only my mom uses the wireless for entertainment. Not secure for now standards.
Actually, since an Ethernet cable (and a telephone cable, for that matter) is basically just a group of insulated wires, you can use it for anything that conducts small amounts of electricity, even if it isn't specifically related to computers or data transfer. For instance, I am using one to connect a module containing a PIR motion detector and a light sensor to my custom burglar alarm, instead of hard-wiring it, so I can disconnect it easily if I need to.
nice - and versatile - thanks for sharing your application.
Actually since the sensor only requires 3 of the 4 wires in the RJ-11 telephone cable, I will wire the fourth conductor directly to +5v so the system can tell if it is unplugged.
Ethernet is about as obsolete as Blu-Rays. Yeah; there are more convenient options... but there are massive benefits to wired setups. For example: you aren't broadcasting your activity (like bank/CC info) to anyone within a 50 foot radius. It's more reliable and has far less collision. It's faster (as of now, CAT6a runs at 10 gigbit) and will provide faster connection times (ping). It's easier to pull a cable when there's a problem than it is to disengage the wireless connection (this happens quite often in the infosec world.) Don't marginalize the tech just because corporations are telling you about "the future." Until we get Fiber-on-desk setups, Ethernet is here to stay.
You sir are right and it will be a lot long because there already making CAT 8 witch will go up to 40 gigabit.
500gb really there isn't a IPS that offers that. And if there ways I don't even want to know how much it would cost a month an not to mention it would most likely only be available to governments, educational institutions, and large businesses. Also sorry to tell you but there isn't even any network equipment that gets up to 500 gigabits. Maybe you should spend some time looking in to stuff before you say something. I work with CAT cables an install network all the time.
***** That's probably in laboratory circumstances. With things like crosstalk, EMF, wires untwisting, bad terminations, inefficient connection terminals, dust on the contacts, physical limitations of communication speed between NIC and NB/CPU... 500 GB/s (or even Gb/s) is unrealistic for ethernet. FOD is where the industry is headed for internet delivery, either way. Whilst ethernet is still the cheapest and easiest option for quick network setups, there is an upper limit to the overall speed you can crank out of it in the field.
Seraephus dust on the contacts really cracks me up. I can see there being dust mites chomping away at the dust. That'd REALLY slow things down. Sorry, just hit my funny bone.
And even when we do get fiber, we're still plugged in! 😆 🤣
Another thing you can do with old ethernet cables, is to use them to floss your teeth.
Maybe if you're a hillbilly from West Virginia that's missing a few teeth! ;-)
West Virginia. Where I live. Hmmmmm. Thank you for the insult!
Crossover cables? I haven't had to use these to connect two computers to each other in a very long time. I do a lot of data transfers by direct connecting with an ordinary ethernet cable.
Crossover cables stopped being necessary a while ago. It made more sense to solve it at a hardware/software level than to have the confusion of needing a second wiring configuration. Crossover cables are a relic of the past. Unfortunately, the whole video is kind of dated before it was even released. Wireless technology is great, but it isn't in line to fully replace any amount of wired solutions yet. It's great for home users, or locations that want to provide internet access but not have to deal with the mess of cables that goes along with it. However, it's significantly less secure, it can be less reliable, especially in areas where multiple WiFi access points exist, and typically is incapable of providing the same speeds as a wired connection, and rarely is as reliable doing it.
That's kind of the issue with this video. Anyone who'd be up to doing even the most basic hacks described would already know that WiFi is not a single-stop solution. Going back to the crossover thing, it also suggests that the creator isn't actually as knowledgeable as claimed.
coss over is hack one lol
+Nick Morrissey (Mnejing) it's called Auto-MDIX and is a feature of almost every Ethernet PHY chip made today.
+Nick Morrissey (Mnejing) | You forgot another advantage of wireless networking: Laptops. Nobody wants a cable going to their laptop computer all the time which defeats the purpose of it being portable.
***** That's one of the millions of reasons why I don't use Losedows 10.
Ethernet is still the best
Honestly, go to any data center and tell me Ethernet is obsolete. Even with all the fiber deploy, we roll Ethernet for various situations - for instance when the DWDM drops to the metro (454) and drops to a DS3 and is dispersed out accordingly - Ethernet is still a champ. With that said, your video was cool!
Our datacenter has a ratio of like 100 to 1 favoring ethernet over fiber still.
Ethernet isn't obsolete, but crossover cables are. Do they even make ethernet cards these days that don't have auto-sensing?
My household dosent use wifi, i also prefer Ethernet its faster.
I know the xbox 360 even has auto sensing. I haven't bought a NIC in a long time.
It's generally prudent to use a crossover cable in situations that warrant it to prevent wonkyness between devices auto-negotiating improperly. Seeing as how you would only connect like devices together in an ad-hoc situation in a home setting, it would be best to use a crossover.
Also, in enterprise level hardware, auto crossover is almost invariably disabled, as the type of people who use that equipment don't want the security of their network compromised by some chucklehead plugging a home router into a patch port.
So no, crossover cables aren't obsolete either.
Mostlyharmless1985 I'm not aware of any security issues auto-sensing poses, since you'd never let a non-tech anywhere near enterprise level hardware, but otherwise what you say makes sense. I can definitely see where it would just plain be more stable though, no sense risking hot ports because of failed negotiations.
1:15 you are wrong. that is not the standard pattern for data cable terminations. the standard is the T568B pattern, which is laid out like this: white-orange, orange, white-green, blue, white-blue, green, white brown, brown.
just checking that some other know that like i do and don't make a double comment, but yes 100% agree with you. this magician knows wrong :)
Just learned this in class the other day. It's ingrained in my memory now. Making cables is so annoying.
that's where i learned, in a classroom. my instructor always told me the importance of knowing these patterns by heart, all 3 of them, t568a/b, and usoc. i watched a guy get turned down from a job because he couldnt recite any of those patterns, or his 25 pair color code (b,o,g,b,s,w,r,b,y,v,r,a).
Yeah once I saw that I stopped watching lol
I do this stuff for a living and the only time I have ever used T568A was on a military base.
with all the wifi signals going through the air...
when kids are born after 2030, parents will make sure that their kids have
10 fingers, 10 toes and 10 antennae.
Boys will grow WIFI antennas and girls will get USB ports :3
You sir, are a moron.
aren't network cards these days auto switching so there is no point making a crossover cable. also, the USB extension probably won't work through the existing Ethernet cables in walls because the length is too long.
+Stephen Halliwell Depends on the quality and age of the NIC or switch whether you get MDI-X. It's still nice to have a crossover cable but paying a pound for one isn't really breaking the bank.
+Stephen Halliwell Yes, any GIGABIT compliant NIC can do auto MDIX. The other replies are in error suggesting it is the burden of the brands' interoperability or that it would be done by the switches. There are switches that have uplink ports for this purpose, but only for 100Mb or lower ethernet.
I do this when I need to transfer a large amount of data from my laptop to my desktop, as I don't have a gigabit switch, but both desktop and laptop are gigabit capable. So much faster.
im the old day's this was so normal to do!
now we only know the way we see ( netwerk( wifi) )
so big up your still useing it as it was made! .
SeishukuS12 Why dont you use USB 3?
Ethernet cables are not obsolete... It is still much faster and more efficient to plug into a modem than to get wireless connection
threeguy123 It's not as fast as fiber optic, which is what I believe will make ethernet cables obselete.
Tinkernut Fibre optic is ethernet
Tinkernut Fiber Optics is a huge investment for most companies to replace their Copper Wired networks. We won't see a majority of companies completely replacing copper wires for at least another decade
threeguy123 Yup, you can get 10 GB ethernet over copper.
STR1KEStudioz™ | CSGO & Arma 3 Nope, fiber optics use glass threads to transmit data using light, and ethernet, or ethernet cables really, are cables that transmit data as electrical signals through copper. Both of them are really fast right now, with ethernet being more affordable for speed, but optics has an opportunity to be 10x faster than the fastest ethernet cable now, it's all about cost.
Hack. You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Hack = Using an object for something other than its intended purpose. What's your definition?
Rekt
you got rekt
so Benjamin, how does it feel to be rekt?
All of this appliances are industry standard and eth. cable was designed for it, so it is no hack. Every IT guy knows it.
Ethernet cabling will become obsolete the day we can transmit data at gigabit speeds throughout an office building to 1000+ computers.
What a load of nonsense. "Hack 2" - doesn't enable anything unless you also have dual NICs on the PC.
Hack #1 - OOooh, a cross-over cable. No one has ever thought of that before. Oh, wait, most modern network cards will do that automatically if you use a straight cable.
Hack #2 - Yeah, that's just going to cause interference and reduce speed..
Hack #3 - USB over ethernet.. um.. ok.. if it's less than 5 metres..
Hack #4 - Ok..
I also like the loop-back plug hack - connect pin 1 to 3 and 2 to 6 of the same plug, you can use tiny bits of wire so it just all fits in the casing. You can now enable your network card with no network attached - perfect for tech demos, port tests, driver tests, etc.
Andrew Porter It does bump your dual nic setup into a crummy 100BASET setup with loads of crosstalk interference, so there's that.
Ethernet cables becoming obsolete? No, no, no! You can get an ethernet cable to go to 1GiB/s, and wireless? Oh, 600MiB if you have one of those fancy dual-band routers. If not, max of 150MiB. Plus, wireless can get quite bad interference (hell, turning on a microwave can nearly destroy your connection!) , channels can conflict, and in a building like a school, it's dumb.
If you've ever been in a school (and I hope you have) you might have seen these big boxes with hundreds of ethernet cables. These are switch boxes, and they use these to get the internet to different classrooms because wired connections are far more reliable than wireless connections. Plus, it's cheaper; you won't need a router in every room.
(If I'm wrong about any of this, do tell. I'm still studying IT so I'm not the greatest at it. If I am wrong, don't be a dick.)
They are switches, they are a "buss" to provide everyone access to the network. They used to be called concentrators.
*****
Yea, in my primary school we had wireless routers in every room.
shredrmk
Ah, I see. Thanks for that :D
***** Sounds like a wireless mesh topology it does sound like a poor design considering the use.
You can buy a gigabit router for around $150.
I think they both serve their own purpose. Wireless is convenient and accessible, etc. Wired is fast, reliable, secure, and so on. For a network in a office or commercial environment wired is a must. Although most offices now days also offer wireless on top of wired connection just for convenience.Ethernet cables aren't going away any time soon.
BTW yes those are switches & probably patch panels that you saw.
Um, ethernet is still being used mostly by gamers to reduce latency.
+TheMamaluigi300 Not to mention a tiny little cut of the market called "literally every single office building and data center in the world."
Eli M and schools.
DeadlyGaming Yep.
Long story short, ethernet is not nearly obsolete. Pretty much the only people who don't rely on it are basic home users, and even then any device that supports it benefits from using it over wi-fi.
yeah, there is no way ethernet is going anywhere at least not yet, wifi while is fast it is not reliable. anything can disrupt the signal from steel buildings to rain, that's why so many still use ethernet. also, the bandwidth is much higher on an ethernet connection so more things can happen at once but if you are just using the internet that doesn't apply unless your running servers or lots of internet traffic.
I prefer wired over wireless whenever possible, much more reliable
To the video poster: You have much learn to learn. Please don't make videos suggesting people do things when you don't fully understand them.
To people watching the video: Pretend you didn't watch the video. Please, just erase it from your mind. You and the universe will be better off.
I'll always use Ethernet cables. They're faster than wireless, and I'm all about speed.
Computers could be networked long before TCP was created, we did this at school with the school computers that linked in to an older computer that ran a diskdrive that had a DOS environment that was nothing like MSDOS. It made storing programs we were making simpler than having to wait for a computer to save the program to audio cassette. It also allowed use of the printer, long before printer sharing was also created under windows.
Many of these hacks come from a period before any protocols or networks existed.
+Mark Giblin -- Hey! A fellow DOS or DOS/VSE user. I was a computer operator on that system back in '84. Glad someone else remembers that stuff.
And in the 1940's they were able network computers, thats what was behind the processing power of the Enigma Decoding computers at Bletchley Park, it wasn't just one machine but several that were interlinked.
Nice video, some extra tips and important things to consider from a fellow network engineer:
You can also piggy back phone lines through these wires. You can find adapters or pinouts to cary HDMI, component, or composite video and audio signals over a good distance. Much more affordable than a 100 foot HDMI.
Crossover cables are generally not required anymore as most interfaces will automatic detect which wires are transmitting and receiving.
USB maximum length is 16 feet, possibly less since the wire type and twisted pair.
Careful using 2 ethernet in 1 wire, cross talk can cause data corruption or slower negotiated speeds, depending on quality of wire.
If you use Power over ethernet, use a real POE injector ideally, do your research and remember the voltage over distance will drop, especially if its under 12 volts.
Be sure to use T-568B pinout as most cables are now designed for Data transmission on pairs 1 and 2, and POE on 3 and 4.
Ethernet will always be the best form of transmitting data; A good cable will be secure, fast, (not just in terms of bandwidth but latency), and much more reliable than wireless. Happy “Hacking”!
not obsolete, servers always use ethernet..
Even amateur gamers also throw away wifi, simply because ethernet blows it out of the water on everything (except being able to connect wireless, which let's face it, really is only useful if you're moving around anyway).
Exroid Gaming WiFi is a bucket of donkey droppings.
There's so much wrong with this that it's hilariously laughable.
Also, X.25 existed a long time before TCP did (in fact, the original Internet worked *over* X.25 links), and BBSes and file transfer protocols were used over these links. The only thing Vint Cerf, et. al. did was develop a pure packet-switched network that, and this is the key, could run over pretty much anything reliably, including earlier circuit-switched networks. TCP is not even a file transfer protocol; we have FTP, Gopher, and HTTP for that purpose, which uses TCP as its transport.
+Samuel Falvo II Ahh the good old BBS days... downloading files with XMODEM, YMODEM, and ZMODEM.
+Phillip Susi Good memories! We needed to dial the BBS and hope they had a vacant spot. Then download a batch of messages, read them offline (with "offline readers"), answer them and then send the batch back on the next connection. Those were the days.
+corisco tupi Ahh, I had a buddy that ran a BBS with 4 lines! 4 whole people could be connected to it at a given time, uploading and downloading files, exchanging email over FIDONET, or more often, playing DOORS games. Ahh, those were the days. And that was before I discovered UNIX systems.
Phillip Susi The farthest back I can recall with gaming is "tic tac toe" running on IBM virtual machines. A co-worker programmed it in APL, different users could play against each other. A "great" way to drain 4341 resources at the time! Later, with PC networks, people started shooting at each other in different office rooms with Doom. Those days people had more fun than work - and were better payed too, LOL
+Phillip Susi Don't forget kermit. I used to run a echomail, software, and game (Legond of the Red Dragon, wooooooot!) BBS running OS/2 2.11 with Remote Access and 4 14.4 kbaud modems. Those were the days.... Plus, back then 10bT coax networks were the backbone of business networks that had ethernet too... Me and my roommate had 10 mbit switches in the basement and upstairs with a coax backbone. Ahhh the good old days of IPX/SPX gaming matches of Duke Nukem 3D and Quake1
on 0:27 there is an small error in terminology. They are refering to TCP as the protocol to transfer files, this should be FTP. TCP has been made to share data between point A to B without the loss of data. This could be anything, as where in the context of the video this should be FTP, because it's regarding to files, correct me if i'm wrong.
Affirmative. TCP (Transmission Control Protocol) is one of the "core protocols" in the transport layer, which encapsulates any number of protocols in the internet layer (ftp/http/scp..etc).
The video has some nice animations though :)
Yes the terminology and history in the first 4 minutes of the video is very confused. He is talking about 4-pair Cat5 Cat5e or Cat6 wires, ethernet is a protocol that runs over those wires.
There were many competing network physical standards up to the late 1990's with competing electrical layers and also many competing software standards which ran over most of those physical layers. Standardization on IP (software layer - routable between computers on different networks) on Ethernet (software layer - routing within the same local network) on 10BaseT (electrical layer) on Cat5 (physical layer) had little to do with the development of modems (in the 1960's, consumer available in very early 1980's), and the phone system is extremely different from telegraph.
TCP is a connection oriented layer which runs over top of IP, which can run over multiple connections... Wifi (ethernet over wireless), Ethernet over 10/100/1000BaseT (Cat5+) or 10base2 (coaxial), DOCSIS (RF Cable), DSL (1-pair phone cable but higher frequency than voice band), Serial lines, V.92 modem (1-pair phone cable using frequencies in the voice band), ATM or ethernet over fiberoptic, etc
In addition to the terminology being an issue... His suggestion of using Cat5 for USB is only useful for USB 1.1 devices (mice and keyboards usually) since USB2.0 has strict length limits due to propagation delay issues. His description of PoE leaves out required voltage sensing and current limiting - it may damage devices plugged in and/or be a fire hazard. Crossover cables are not really a hack so much as a piece of standard kit - except that most PC built in ethernet adapters now have automatic detection of direct connections and automatically go into crossover mode if required.
Splitting a Cat5 cable to provide 2 10BaseT connections does work for low bandwidth and low usage connections, I have used it with adapters and punch-down jacks; The easiest way to implement it is if you have punchdown jacks at each end - ie one end is a patch panel and the other is a wall plate but you can't pull a new cable. Splitting the cable rules out PoE though and the current most common device to be added to an existing workstation are VoIP phones - which usually need PoE. Also, as mentioned it rules out gigabit connections. Often a better solution is to just drop in a 4-port ethernet switch.
FTP just adds controlling connection, it uses plain TCP for transfering files themselves (and due to this dual-connection setup should finally die).
It's not insulation that defines the cat rating, it's the bore and solid/stranded type of the copper used in the pairs, how they are twisted to cancel out common mode noise induced upon them, and how effectively they are screened with metalised mylar/polyester tape, drain wire etc.
Majority of network hardware nowadays implements Auto MDI-X which makes crossover cables unnecessary. So you can easily connect 2 computers together with a straight cable.
You say "give the ethernet cable the sendoff" ??? Sendoff to what? I will choose and always a choose hardwire over wireless anyday. They are nowhere near obsolete..only to trendies and hipsters who don't understand fully what the F they are talking about.
Yes, totally agree, wires for all fixed place devices and only use wireless for mobile devices 8)
Fiber optic is taking over its role its Wayyy faster
goatstaog The cost difference of the cable itself is minimal, however there is still a huge cost difference in the Network interface cards and switches.
I doubt fiber will ever become a standard in the home, even when the cost comes down, it's just not as foolproof as Ethernet is, you can break the cable if you bend it too much, you can damage the connectors very easily, and performance can be easily impacted with just a piece of dust in the connector.
bouwland2 and expensive
Thank you, I'm glad someone agrees with me. I think it is so stupid to have a desktop computer with a wifi when the damn router is sitting right next to it! Trust me, being an IT profesional, and making a lot of house calls, I've seen a lot of this lol
Crossover cables are almost obsolete as 99,9% of ethernet NICs in the market nowadays support auto-MDI. In common language, every modern network card can automatically determine if the cable is crossed over or straight-trhrough so there is no need for crossed cables.
Who still watching this vid? Its about 2020 and has pandemic. Thanks for the little information about this. Now I clearly understand the method that you explained in part 3 and 4. Now I can extend my wifi modem to connect an antenna for outdoors. Cheers mate
Hack #6: Connect a standard power cable to the wires of an Ethernet cable. Plug the power connector into the wall and the Ethernet cable into your computer and you'll never have a problem turning your computer off ever again.
0:53 Excuse me? Ethernet cables are becoming obsolete? If it wasn't for them, we probably wouldn't even have our precious Wi-Fi today, think about it, wifi comes from routers (in homes mostly), and what connects those routers to the ISP and modems? Got it, ethernet cables!
And no business uses ONLY wireless... For the most part, most businesses use copper and/or fibre cabling
***** Yes Ethernet itself is an old concept, but today we have kinda "upgraded" it to Cat 5e and i believe even cat 7. I dont think we can secure the info with the cable itself... it would have to be encrypted at the exit of the server and decrypted at the host like your pc requesting the data or vice versa.
What do you mean by a more secure cable?
@CandianGamer Whats your point Canadian gamer? Ethernet uses the 802.3 standard, and wireless uses 802.11 (They are in essence using similar technology) Networking is also as a whole some 30/40 years old
They will both use the OSI 7 layer model, or more accurately the TCP/IP model, where the "physical" layer in the OSI model, is either the physical connection or the wireless signals
Cables are pretty secure. At work we're starting to use fibre a bit more as well. Wireless just isn't a good option - considering concerns with reliability, security, and speed. Using Opnet, you can see the speed differences based on devices close to AP's
Wireless also uses CSMA-CA, which means at a gigabit connection, you can only really utilise half of that (If at all)
The only things that'd make for a more "secure cable" is if you're talking purely physically ie: STP, instead of UTP, or shielding the cable, using some heat shrink tubing, or cable management, as well as using boot ends
danermanerkider cat 7 isn't really used atm, due to expense. At work we tend to use cat5e or cat6 between patch panels (This is a large corporate as well) Other cables we use are fibre. Cat6a, and cat7 just cost too much
Bill Anon We only tend to use cat6 between patch panels, though we do tend to use Systimax cables with Systimax patch panels.THe price we pay for cables is pretty ridiculous. We paid around £5500 for around 40 copper cables.
It's basically copper for the most part, and for storage, we use fibre (for the most part)
So is wireless...
The order of the wires in UTP (unshielded twisted pair) is important for proper noise rejection. Yes, a straight-through cable made in any order will probably work, if its a short cable, but 100BASE-TX over mis-wired cables longer than about 12' will have serious usability problems, if a link will even come up.
The ANSI spec is TI-568A and TI-568B. A---A or B---B makes a straight through, A---B makes a cross-over.
While yes, so long as both ends match up, the cable will work as a straight-through cable, the EIA/TIA's (Electronic Industry Association/Telecommunications Industry Association) standard color scheme that you will most often encounter is the 568-B, which has the pairs ordered as WO/O/WG/Bl/WBl/G/WBr/Br; versus the 568-A standard which you have shown in the video.
(EDIT) Also, crossover cables (and rollover cables, which you don't mention), are standard practice, and can even be bought prefabricated from a store, therefore, not a "hack." Additionally, wireless technologies may be making the need for physical media, such as ethernet, fiber optic, and coaxial cables, less needed in the home setting, especially if all of your devices are mobile devices (laptops, cell phones or tablets) but they still are needed outside of the home, especially in any business setting. Physical media is still the preferred method of data transfer, as it is far superior in speed, reliability and security.
The Mario sound got old after it played for the 20th time in under a minute.
Well, ethernet is always better if you want less ping and higher speeds....
...and more security.
Actually, wireless stinks. It's only advantage is mobile convenience.
it's so cute that you said Ethernet cables are obsolete..
you can keep your shitty wireless connection, I'll stick to cable that transfers at 10x the speed (for gigabit of course, but what fool isn't running that anyway these days?)
even wireless N is shittily slow still.
John Douglas Cute? Why thank you. I implied in the video that cat5 ethernet is going to be obsolete. Fiber optic is much faster and more secure.
yes, it is faster, and more secure, it's also a HELL of a lot more expensive. so far.
so unless they can make it a LOT more cheaper, it's not going to happen any time soon ;) but, yes, eventually.
it's not going to be done in by wireless though, simply not enough spectrum for the traffic demands.
John Douglas I admit, I was being over dramatic for effect :-) I agree, it's going to be DECADES before it happens, if at all.
I have fiber optics. The fiber cable comes into the house and goes all the way to the modem, however, from the modem to the router and from the router to my ethernet card, I still need to use an ethernet cable. My wife and daughter have laptops with a WiFi and every time someone uses the microwave, they lose internet access until the microwave is no longer being used. There is no substitute for a direct line; they are not going obsolete.
if that's the case, you really want to get your microwave checked, or, change the channel your wifi setup is running on.
I ran a single Cat5 cable about 200 feet from my house to my shed so I could enjoy Internet radio while working on projects out there. Of course, the tinkering bug bit me so I split the connection to TWO computers and surprisingly, not only did it work but I actually measured over 40Gb concurrently on both machines according to Speedtest! Crazy!
Not meaning to be rude but the industry standardized way of wiring an CAT5 / CAT5e / CAT6 cable is:
Orange White / Orange / Green White / Blue / Blue White / Green / Brown White / Brown
That's T568B, on the video they show T568A. Industry standard as well. When you do a crossover cable, you'll have A on one side and B on the other, on a straight cable, you'll have A on both sides. Or B. Doesn't really matter.
KocuRisko T586B is the industry accepted way across the world. A is technically correct, but B is the de-facto standard for new installations.
That along with the Category standard referring to twists per meter, not how insulated the wires are from interference. But yes, TIA/EIA 568B is the accepted standard used by modern cable manufacturers, and IT professionals.
He also kind of skips over that USB usually has a limit of ~5m, so sure, you can extend a USB device across a room, but most likely not through a wall as he suggests.
Most of these "hacks" are just something anyone starting to learn about Ethernet would know, at an N+ would shoot down.
I was just going to mention this. Also, even though a cable may work if both ends match, you can't split the wire pairs. The twisted pairs are there to block out noise.
Most of this is outdated.
-Most gigabit controllers have auto-crossover, no need for crossover cables
-Splitting the ethernet cable prevents it going to gigabit and may increase the chance of crosstalk, just run another cable.
-USB has a maximum distance of 5m, using ethernet cables will be unreliable and unsuitable for high powered devices.
Why do I feel like this guy doesn't know anything about Ethernet / Internet? He sounds like he is reading a wikipedia site and there is so many false things that he says.
I personally don't think Ethernet cables will become obsolete knowing many gamers such as myself and many enterprise company's use the cables to a) directly connect to other computers in an enterprise as you said b) connect a desktop PC to the internet as most desktops aren't wireless. This is just my opinion of course.
I agree with you
Its that time of year again, that youtube wants me to see this...
I saw this when it came out, and youtube keeps showing me this
HiRez lol so true every year, I dunno why i keep watching it.
HiRez
There is so much wrong in this video its nearly a troll.
Intro - cabling colour order will work - but are not the normal order used today.
hack 1 - Not needed since the early 90's.
hack 2 - used sometimes to save copper wiring and provide two slower ethernet wall ports using a single cable to go back to the server room or hub - not recommended.
hack 3 - This wont work - USB is very limited the distance it can travel.
hack 4 - This is Not the PoE standard - its a custom hack that can damage your device if you plug it in forgetting its got non standard voltages on pins. Doing it properly will allow you to do Gigabit and get power (search for PoE eg. on Wikipedia for a starting point)
Wifi has its uses - eg. for mobile devices - but the more people use wifi in your area the slower it will be.
my thouhts exactly. you could keep going...
I don't believe in clicking thumbs down without explanation, so allow me to explain.
0:28 It's transmission control protocol, not transfer communications protocol... Why has it become so commonplace to disregard what acronyms actually mean in the PC world?
0:53 Ethernet is made obsolete by wireless? Are you serious? Even the best wireless performance doesn't touch ethernet.
1:16 Anyone in the industry can tell you that T568-B is is the industry standard for ethernet wiring. You've shown a valid example, which is T568-A, but it's rarely used in the field or even in manufactured ethernet cables. This is important if someone were to take your word for it and hack up their cable assuming one end is wired the way you showed it would be (and you did not mention that there are 2 standards). Also typical phone cords have 2 pairs, a total of 4 copper wires, not 6.
1:35 You mention "cat5, cat5e, and cat6" refer to how insulated the ethernet cord is, this is incorrect. This refers to the result of qualification tests of successful transmission of certain frequencies at certain lengths. What manufacturers do to attain this is many times proprietary information, but the quality of the cable, the quality or amount of insulation, and quality control in general all factor in. This is NOT related to the amount of insulation, if that were true, STP (shielded twisted pair) would exceed cat6 qualifications. The importance of shielding and insulating is reduced due to the twisted pairs.
1:51 You say the excess wires aren't used unless you have a gigabit connection, then you go on to say "this type of connection is standard on all computers". Not sure what rock you're under, but you'll be hard pressed to find a modern PC with an ethernet connection less than gigabit in speed. Also your reference to the computing assigning the wires to a "transfer and receive protocol" makes no sense at all. It's not a protocol, that's a complete misuse of the word.
4:05 You suggest using USB over ethernet nonchalantly... then you turn around and say be careful when considering doing power over ethernet? You do realize that USB has power too, right?
Remember that a single wire can transfer up to 350mA. This works for PoE at 48V and gives you 15W nominal power for the device. But on 12V or 5V your device cannot consume that much (4W or 1,5W resp.). Even connecting 2 wires together you're limited to 700mA in the loop. Be careful to respect this limit or you might set you house on fire.
Also know that the distance is a factor too; the longer, the more voltage drop, the less power can be consumed.
Ethernet cables will never be obsolete as they are better than wireless.
Strange why you immediately go to wireless as the Ethernet alternative. Where I live, Fiber has replaced most underground ethernet systems.
Your a moran... you don't keep track of basic electronics as all wireless signals all energy travels in cycles per second... a wireless signal can and will surpass a cable why because as data transmits in high frequencies it will move through the wireless speed barriers we now are shackled to and using advanced logarithms will kill the wired method... it won't mean that newer cables that we would need to update are data transfer highways couldn't find ways to send data morereliably...but the technology already exists.. wireless will be the fastest transport once the newer high end tech reaches the consumer market... now your computer and the majoorit6 of non Comercial tech is a long way from maximizing the ability to actually eat the claimed specifications but you the same goes for wired... don't believe me.... you need a refresher course on the speed of energy within an atmosphere achieved not to mention your computer could if capable of running to spec hiya 10 gigs wired, but that never happens with the bandwidth limititatioms etc... your lucky to get 400 mb download wired.. the newer wirless technologies can use frrequencies that blast your ooldcat 5 due to the wired infrastructure. Remember in a vacuum light travels at speeds wires can even dream of... when the tech barrier is broken... as tesla demonstrated you can only be listed by you computers ability to read and write the data incoming... never say never a wire is going to be an outmoded transfer system one day... and wireless data traveling at speeds and with algorythemsto use parallel transfer and rebuilding once received is going to put wires in museums!
dude, fiber is still ethernet
Strange why you think that Fiber isn't ethernet.
@@simonsays9535 I know this was 2 years ago but what the hey. Separation of layer 1 between data hungry users in close proximity and the security risks associated with wireless make a strong counterargument good sir. Faster transmission requires higher frequencies which translates to lower range. We can currently take a single fiber wire, which can be bundled with thousands of others in a cable no thicker than D battery, and exchange at speeds of more than 70 terabits per fiber. In contrast, wireless has only recently reached the terabit scale where it's been noted that the signal degrades in meters rather than kilometres. Also, how do you think the signal gets to a wireless access point? More wireless? There is significantly higher overhead required for wireless to work smoothly which increases with device density because air is a shared medium. Wireless is a great option for day-to-day computing at home or on the go, but for serious tasks that require high reliability and secure communication, wires will always have a place in common use.
Cat5, Cat 5e, and etc are specific standards referring to cable construction. Transmission bandwidth and speed are merely one aspect of the Category standards.
Using ethernet cable to extend the range of a USB cable will *not* work. The maximum length of a USB 2 cable is 5m. The reason for this is because USB is half-duplex. Each transmission is reflected back along the cable because of the way electrical transmission lines work. Because the transmit and receive are on the same wires, the transmit hardware will be damaged if the reflected signal is not attenuated enough. The attenuation occurs in time due to resistance in the wire. The USB standard requires attenuation to occur within 26ns, which gives a practical maximum cable length of about 5m. Any longer and it just doesn't work.
T2T- excuse me sir I know nothing about comps. Or cameras etc. Trying to learn. But imfoumd a lot of cameras that were in the trash nice ones but older !models they upgraded and tossed them out. So my question is since I don't have routers modern etc. Can I run ether cable and conver the other end into rca video direct to TV for real time monitoring
One of the original hacks is to use the two blue lines in the middle for POTS analog phones. The same jack will take an ethernet cable or a phone plug. Splitting them out to another RJ11 jack will allow both to be in use at the same time.
my god those STUPID blinky sound effects are annoying.
it makes me want to play mario
curious what planet ethernet cables are obsolete. Hack is the most overused term on you tube
Curious what planet you studied the potential for energy transfer wireless lyrics in our atmosphere. The computers and tech are the issue... wireless running with paralelllalgorrythems transmitting and being received by hardware capable of handling insane data transfer rates... a crossover wire is definitely a hack... you can use that wire to do so many different things but you have to start with its previous primary, functiiom... consider this my mac book has no etherner input.... well I hacked a crossover to usb to get a wired connection without buying apples expensive rip offf... that's a hack.. diy...what do you want a wire that allows you to steal military secrets.... what is a hack it's a repurchased item that saves the user from having to spend money for something that can be done free or cheaply... are you stealing people's credit card data...is that a hack or a cyber crime... when you call launching an icbn.warhead a hack you are forgetingt that... what kind of you tube fantasies are you trying to classify has a hack/ non hack.... however how about creating a super computer or a system that cuts out the need for equipment that can be repurposed and save you some cash...that's a hack all day, Carry-on!
To Simon Says that is one of the dumbest replies I've read in awhile. Brian you're so right hack is just another clickbait word used by d-bags on RUclips, it's like the Gluten of the internet lol.
#1 isn't even a fucking hack, the rest are useless.
eksine 90% of what he said about it was wrong anyway, im in an IT class working on my certifications and this just makes me cringe at how wrong he is.
how is my boi tinkernut wrong
1 minute in and I'm already ticked. Ethernet isn't going anywhere anytime soon. They're faster, more reliable, and more secure than wireless communications.
Lost me at 1:30 claiming the order of the wires doesn't matter as long as they are the same at both ends. As if having the differential signals on totally different twisted-pair-halves wouldn't matter! (Yes, for a very short run you can get away with it, but don't whine about any reliability or speed issues that result).
You're talking about wired ethernet connection as if it's a dying art... It's still the fastest and most reliable connection type... Unless you count fiber.
Fiber...Reliable...Lol.
Mostlyharmless1985 Is it not reliable then? at least it's way faster...
I don't have much experience with fiber but I've build a little something with it at school... I've haven't heard of any problems with it...
I mean it's a physical wire so at least it's more reliable than wireless...
Fiber is a nightmare to install, maintain and build, nor is it actually any faster, despite the common misconception. The main advantage of fiber is length of run; lower LATENCY. Not throughput. There are also some advantages such as immunity to EMI and being near-impervious to wiretapping. However, those advantages rarely assert themselves to the point where they overcome TPs ease of installation, and cost.
You can happily have 10gb runs over CAT6, there's no real reason to go faster, especially if your endpoint demark is at 100MB.
As for reliable? Yeah, bend a fiber pipe past 40 degrees and see how reliable it is.
i lost braincells watching this. why did i watch this god why.
No. Only 4 wires are ever used. no matter what speed or duplex.
no, gigabit uses 8.
4 wires = 100 mbit/s
8 wires = 1000 mbit/s
get your shid right
It's okay - those braincells are replaceable, and you weren't using them anyway. Now go outside and play!
So. Many. Factual. Inaccuracies.
TinkerFail.
I was going to mention the Crossover from maxing out your cables but you already did. Good Job!
That bleep noise is a bit too loud.
Feels like I'm playing Mario and all those coins
Too loud, and used to often.
Ikr? I was sad to see I had zero coins at the end of the video. Otherwise, good video thanks
Cant hear the voice, only bleeping
It hurts..... fuck this vid
the wiring pattern shown is wrong most of the world uses : Orange-white, Orange, Green-white, Blue, Blue-white, Green, Brown-white, Brown
Daniel Hutson Thank you
The wiring pattern is NOT wrong, it's just a standard you are not familiar with. EIA/TIA-568A and EIA/TIA-568B are the two standards for ethernet cables. You can use whatever but it's usually regional based so that you if live in europe and buy an american router, it might have some problems since it could not recognize the wires positions.
Not to say that without these 2 standards you couldn't make a cross cable.
Oromis13 it is wrong as he said. and you wouldn't have problems. add long as both sides are the same the computer doesn't know the difference
volksrod69 Try it out by yourself. Using a device and plugging it into the "wrong" cable causes interferences to the signal
568B is more common in my experience, not the 568A standard that he shows. Either one of the two will work as long as both ends are wired the same. The does not mean you can just pick everything randomly, pins have to be selected such that pairs are on pins 1/2, 3/6, 4/5, 7/8.
At 2:37 in the video, he shows the 568B wiring standard in the slide yet makes no clarification of why what he is showing there is different there than what he showed earlier (568A).
This video paints things with a broad brush which could lead people to misunderstanding in several areas. He should have clarified upfront his target audience is less technical home users and not everything he says applies to all situations.
He says ethernet is being replaced by wireless, this is only true only for lower performance end user devices. Cat6 ethernet can run 10Gbit to as many end points as you wish, where as 802.11ac wireless isn't going to be close to the same level of performance in a densely populated environment, for a home user it doesn't matter, but it certainly does to a data center server farm.
Hack 3 to extend USB he says it doesn't matter which wires are used, this is over simplified and misleading. There are correct ways to wire it to minimize cross talk, maximize speed (USB 1.1 vs USB 2.0) and maximize distance. Rather the end connection also needs to be powered from the cable or has it's own power makes a difference in how far it can be run. If the an active repeater is used in the system to amplify and clean up the signal, longer / faster runs are possible.
Hack 4: he has the positive and negative reversed for the POE 802.3af standard (pins 4/5 should be positive, 7/8 should be negative). There is also a specific voltage that must be used, and POE is best over a limited distance. All details that are omitted.
There is so much wrong with this video...
Ethernet is faster than Wifi if you use good cables.
Out Of Place Ninja this is because Wi-Fi can only happen at a certain speed unless you run multiple Wi-Fi connections. i always like using a cable because pf less chance for interference more solid connection and greater speeds
Out Of Place Ninja except my house because wifi is 100 and Ethernet in the garage is 70-90. That is where I have some pcs
It's faster than WiFi even if you use shit cables.
to jacob Nimeh, as long there is no rf interference(like walking/moving objects) then I can agree with your statement about wifi being faster
Category-5, 5e, 6, etc. are actual specifications manged by standards bodies, so one cable is as good as another within the same spec. The differences are shielding (RF interference and espionage) and higher quality cable may potentially allow you to run cable beyond spec (typically 100 meters) and still achieve desired connection speeds. Still, any competent installer will use a repeater, or, better yet, fiber for this.
I work in a data center and I see ethernet way more than I see fiberoptic.
To be fair.
You think wireless is making Ethernet obsolete? hahahhahahahahahahahhaahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
I would love to see how well a data centre would go with purely wireless.
Roasty Toasty Hah...what are you talking about? - He said that Ethernet is becoming obsolete, and I laughed at that.
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"Ethernet cable" is not a thing, nor a type of cable, the "Ethernet" is the network medium between networks or computers on the same network, the Ethernet just carries protocols and transmissions from the devices to communicate with each other. Ethernet is not aging, Cat cables and Coax are aging.
And what you said about "better alternatives", I couldn't agree more, but what I said is completely valid and don't understand your argument. The networks would most likely still be ethernet, but instead, using different means to transmit, e.g Fibre
What the hell was all that number shit...
My guess 4g or 5g when that will release will make standard home internet obsolete for majority of people.
Roasty Toasty What he actually said was that there are 4 wires in an ethernet cable that transmit and receive data if, and only if you are not using gigabit, and if you are not using a gigabit network, you probably don't need to worry about the future, just try and catch up to the present. For you somethingafw, the range of 4g and 5g make it useless over any considerable range and ruinously expensive to cover large areas, in Australia there's lots of land, population density makes installing towers unfeasible as in most areas there would not be enough people to make upkeep of towers profitable. Even 3g with its substantial range is not common outside high density areas.
ARE YOU SSTUPID WIRELESS IS SHIT
Roasty Toasty Ah!, the copper cables; now I understand you.
I don't think they will ever just start adding more wires to the cables, you can achieve 10/100, 1Gbps and 10Gbps over a single cable. Very few networks are running 10gbps currently, and there are still a lot of homes who couldn't pass 10/100, for many reasons.
Copper is slow and restricting because the transmission is carried out by means of electricity, which does not travel as fast as light and is susceptible to damage from rain and nature ( not to say fibre doesnt) . Fibre optic cable is the next step, not more wires in copper cables - Fibre uses light which is many times faster, and when the time comes to upgrade fibre by a massive amount, like 1gbps to 10gbps - you do not need to replace the cable, it is just a matter of replacing the components on either side of the line. Simply upgrading the hardware on either side can boast upgrades of more than than 10gbps to 1tbps.
Fibre.
The connection doesn't only work one way, because one time I copied files off of my old windows 98 desktop to my windows 7 by plugging in an Ethernet cable between them.
This is because basically all modern ethernet cards and devices will automatically detect and switch back and forth between standard and crossover. There really isn't a purpose for crossover cables unless you are using some really old ethernet devices. As far as I know, only one of the two connected devices needs to have this ability. You would need to be using two really old devices to actually require a crossover cable. :D
Yeah, the Windows 98 computer had to be rebooted with the cable plugged in at startup for it to work.
Jonathan Nellis
Only gigabit Ethernet controllers are required to automatically detect crossover cables.
While some sub-gigabit Ethernet controllers support this feature, it's not about how "modern" the controller is. Fast Ethernet (sub-gigabit) is pretty old.
Jonathan Nellis He has a coal powered computer and a steam engine printer. :P
2013: Retro pieces of computer history...
2020: Running Cat 5e cable for my home network despite having Wi-Fi 5.
None of these "hacks" work on most modern ethernet installations as gigabit ethernet uses all 4 pairs.
ty for saying it, over 90 mbps you need all 4 pairs
ha im at 500 mbps
Hack #3 is bullshit. USB is sensible to cable types and lenghts.
Paul-Sebastian Manole The fact that USB requires specific cable types and lengths doesn't make it BS, it just means you need to make sure you're following proper USB cable requirements when substituting a different cable.
Tinkernut Actually why you need to follow these requirements is because it won't work at all or even closely to usable otherwise. You can't run your USB cable throughout your entire house is what I'm saying and what this video is stating you can.
Tinkernut Oh and USB is sensible to static interference so unless you want people's USB controllers fried, I suggest you don't go around advertising this tip as totally viable.
Paul-Sebastian Manole I agree with your statement except for the fact that you said I'm suggesting you can run it through your entire house....I never even remotely said that. I'm showing what's possible, not what "should" be done.
Tinkernut You're totally saying that. But I'm not gonna watch the video one more time to confirm it because I already made my point.
crossover cables exists for decades almost. how can anybody call it a hack ? weird to me
add to that, that any modern device can just emulate a crossover cable (Keyword Auto-MDI-X)
Like that you present this as breathing new life into Ethernet cables ... if anyone who has any inkling of networking in them was wondering if this video shows new anything, yes, if this was 1992.
Two false statements within the first few minutes... Next.
Amazing. There's something factually wrong in every other sentence of this video. It's not even just oversimplification, it's just plain wrong.
History is wrong. All modern network ports will auto-crossover as necessary (MDI-X). You cannot plug into 2 different physical networks from one network card. USB over CAT5 is better with a balun. And the homespun PoE is actually okay, but commercial versions are much more commonly used to power phones and remote AP's, not routers and switches.
ether net is NOT obsolete, and is the main way for most gaming pcs
I have yet to understand the point of wifi, aside from connecting devices with no ethernet cable port. Because that's about all it's good for. It's not good for large downloads, uploads, streaming, or gaming. In fact, wifi is probably closer to obsolete in many households utilizing professional grade internet speeds.
Added on top of this fact, the unreliability of most wifi boxes, it just simply is not useful. At least in any of my areas of use.
I've used these hacks and am now browsing a top secret main frame. Thanks! xoxo